Some players said that they don't like to fly with a dropper which is referring to me.
So, when can drop bombs?

It is generally acceptable to drop your bombs:


1 in a Dogfight Mission

2 in a CTC or capture the carrier

3 in a CTF or capture the flag

4 On a hanger

5 on a carrier

6 on a tank, chute or airborne plane

This has been one of the biggest debates on dogfight. I hope this helps. Im sure though, many will agree, AND disagree

it can also be argued that if you are facing an opponent who is dropping, regardless of the scenario, it then becomes fair to drop in response to counter that opponent. that of course is subjective.

GHOSTRIDER1 wrote: This has been one of the biggest debates on dogfight. I hope this helps. Im sure though, many will agree, AND disagree

It's really up to each player how they want to play. There is no official rule against dropping in any situation. It is one of the game design crux issues. Is it a design flaw in the game? If the planes flew the same with or without bombs it would always be "fair" right? It would be simpler...

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Transcend Your Game -By Luna, how to coordinate an effective sneak.

airwolff wrote: it can also be argued that if you are facing an opponent who is dropping, regardless of the scenario, it then becomes fair to drop in response to counter that opponent. that of course is subjective.

of course there is that. Totally acceptable

Remember any one can drop but not everyone can fly with skill with a bomb once you start to fly bomb-less the stability of your plane goes out the window i usually carry all the time in every mission till i need the speed or agility. i was recently in a catch the flag and came in for flag and someone spawned right in front of me so i gave him my bombs to look after while i made haste to my base

I think it is also ok to drop to defend your base or carrier from campers, spawnkillers and the like...

and if you are out numbered or way out skilled, drop one and hold one for better control and speed...

Nebular wrote: I think it is also ok to drop to defend your base or carrier from campers, spawnkillers and the like...

and if you are out numbered or way out skilled, drop one and hold one for better control and speed...

I doubt that there are many players who will say you should never drop in a bombing game for any reason, other than on a hangar of course. The problem that comes up is that once you have dropped for a "legitimate reason" (not just at the end of the runway on every run) how is someone else to know?

I watch for sneaks and often see them coming from up high...so I'll drop, some times one sometimes both, and chase them to defend my hangars. Time is of the essence and you need to take them out quick. Keeping your bomb in such a case can be an absurd prideful thing that does not serve the mission or your team.

So what comes next? After shooting the sneak, if there are a bunch of incoming reds, should you self destruct? That's probably the only way to avoid complaints. TX constable is a good honorable guy but he complained of me dropping in a game where I was doing just what I described above to counter sneaks on his team. (I was flying under the name "Mercy - 1")

I've seen other reds leave after I've bombed tanks that were in range of my hangars, saying "I refuse to play with droppers". So what is it with this attitude? Is it just that some just want a nice slow paced head on game all the time? I think that's true for some. If that's the case there is nothing wrong with them leaving. But in other cases some go on the "you're ruining the game" rampage.

There are very few rules in the game. Zuperman has confirmed that is how he intends it to be. If someone wants be vindictive against droppers without teamkilling that is also okay, but it is often over a misunderstanding and can be very disrupting to the game and the community.

I understand full well why someone would complain about a high rank player who only wants to drop and chase but it still is not against the rules. Heck, when there were moderators one of them, "General Jack" now "Mr. Serious" was a chronic dropper/chaser....not against the rules.

As far as I'm concerned, whining is far more game ruining than anything but teamkilling and trying to get others to adhere to your version of etiquette by calling it the rules is just someone trying to hyjack the game for their own pleasure.

I'm open to serious discussion about this. I've changed my mind before. If you have a genuine perspective and reason to support your position let's hear it, but insults and conjecture are not real discussion.

Anyone?

I think you should be able to drop no matter what the game is because who cares if you carry your bomb the person who dropped there bomb is looking for kills or just wants to defend the other planes that carry their bombs I drop a lot to defend the planes as much as possible but when it's 5v2 then I do dropped when I am one of the 2 men in the air. Why would people get mad and stop playing just because the other persons intentions were to defend another player and yes people do drop to glitch I don't support that but why do people quit because I want to defend the base or another player

111TH|GOLDENEAGLE wrote: I think you should be able to drop no matter what the game is because who cares if you carry your bomb the person who dropped there bomb is looking for kills or just wants to defend the other planes that carry their bombs I drop a lot to defend the planes as much as possible but when it's 5v2 then I do dropped when I am one of the 2 men in the air. Why would people get mad and stop playing just because the other persons intentions were to defend another player and yes people do drop to glitch I don't support that but why do people quit because I want to defend the base or another player

Well.i can see dropping when outnumbered.I can see.dropping to catch a sneaker and clearing the they sky of incoming planes and tanks that are an immediate threat to your base or hanger .it's the guys that drop as soon as they leave the runway for the sole purpose of their Kdr in a bombing mission that tend to tick.people off .they have absolutely no intentions of bombing only to bolster their Kdr knowing that any plane with a bombing has to pay a weight penalty.and that forces othert to drop and the chain grows yes you can sneak to avoid them but that usually leaves the dropper free to turn fight his way over to your base and camp and spawn killing .now having said that the pc vs phone or tab issue comes up a phone or tab dropper don't have that much more ability than othert phone er tab guys .but the pc players have a huge and disturbing advantage when dropping.and they use it .hence that is why df elite is separated.because some wanted to be have a huge Kdr and have never even had the simplest of thoughts about what they are actually doing to the game as a whole .as more people start to shift to df 2 df will become the realm of pc players only .the good pc droppers will have the advantage the new players will probably try the game a say screw it therefore leaving the game and never adding any money to the pot for zup to either do any updates of makes a living for himself .

I had a 1hour+ btb today with a good mix of skills. Reds had a very notable high rank valley of death guy, a not quite MORAF chronic dropper, a noob sneak and a decent mid level. Blues were in and out with long spans of just me and a noob, other times with 2 not quite MORAFs.

Very fun. Kept me on my toes paying attention to how long it had been since the last sneak, getting shots off at the High rank, juking the dropper and keeping him off our base. I found myself relieved that the one guy was dropping on several occasions. I knew that once they got close I only needed to shoot down the ones who were carrying. A great nail biter. I finally finished it with a sneak when my battery got to 10%. Can't find one like that in the kiddie pool. I suppose many others would have left in disgust. Oh well.

(I rarely dropped. Just on tanks and usually only one to go for the sneaks.)

I seldom drop the bomb only to kill enemies since my flying skill is rubbish.
If there are glitchers in my base or out numbered, I would drop.
When being "accused" of dropper made me feel doubting myself... :/