to @Allied and @Fox, to both... YES!

@Allied: "things" can be destroyed... I mean other enemies. Houses and things like that, if we get funding, probably yes, because that although it seems simple it's pretty complex (we have to modify every single model in the game to be able to be hit and destroyed into pieces).

guys, this is moving really slow :/
I'm contacting media, press and all, I'm also contacting museums and vets groups. I'm thinking some museums or veteran groups would love the idea to have their stories shared on the game. Also maybe their brand and info. To me it makes sense, they can reach the outside world and have them know about their particular story.

If you have any contacts with veterans or museums, please let me know and don't hesitate to write to them. I think it's just a matter of time before they find out about the project and I hope it's not when it's closed! The sooner we get them on board, the better

I apologize if this has been brought up, but can you "like" Dogfight Elite on Facebook?

www.facebook.com/dogfightelite
But that doesn't bring much pledges :/

zuperman wrote: guys, this is moving really slow :/
I'm contacting media, press and all, I'm also contacting museums and vets groups. I'm thinking some museums or veteran groups would love the idea to have their stories shared on the game. Also maybe their brand and info. To me it makes sense, they can reach the outside world and have them know about their particular story.

If you have any contacts with veterans or museums, please let me know and don't hesitate to write to them. I think it's just a matter of time before they find out about the project and I hope it's not when it's closed! The sooner we get them on board, the better

www.tuskegeeairmennationalmuseum.org/ and www.friendsoftuskegeeairmennhs.com/

Try the Tuskegee airmen Zup. They are dedicated to preserving the history of Tuskegee airmen, which includes creating public awareness. And what a better place to create awareness and preserve history than in dogfight elite, where we will be flying the p51 mustangs and we can paint the Red tails too and have tuskegee airmen teams or squadrons and have their history posted in df elite forum. They have an "Educational" goal and so do you. Dogfight is a Global game (better choice of word for "international game") so through df elite surely both goals have been scored with one shot.

I'm sure you can talk them into something Zup and we are here to help.

I hope this helps...

For the love of Dogfight,
111th Mas

www.overthefront.com/index.php

World War 1 aviation enthusiast's




www.crossandcockade.com/#sthash.1MNM3szU.dpbs

Another good one. I am not a member of this one...

I will leave the writing to other people.....

Challenge publications.
www.challengeweb.com/contact.html
Publishers of magazines such as Air Classics, War birds International,and Sea Classics.

Breitling.
www.breitling.com/en/contact/
I figure that they do alot for aviation and might be interested in the "markets guru" pledge.

Red Bull.
energydrink.redbull.com/contact
Maybe they can give this project some wings. Lol

Weider History Group.
www.historynet.com/contact-historynet-and-weider-history-group
They do many magazines including "Aviation History".

That's all I got at the moment but I'll see what else I can come up with.

I'll send emails out to these groups, but if any of y'all are members or even if you're not lets hit the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) and the American Legion. Both are US veteran organizations and are always interesting in educating the public about war history.

Jacob10000 wrote: Challenge publications.
www.challengeweb.com/contact.html
Publishers of magazines such as Air Classics, War birds International,and Sea Classics.

Breitling.
www.breitling.com/en/contact/
I figure that they do alot for aviation and might be interested in the "markets guru" pledge.

Red Bull.
energydrink.redbull.com/contact
Maybe they can give this project some wings. Lol

Weider History Group.
www.historynet.com/contact-historynet-and-weider-history-group
They do many magazines including "Aviation History".

That's all I got at the moment but I'll see what else I can come up with.

Hey what about history channel. They might get into stuff like this. I dont know details on it but i bet they would like this project since it is educational. Just spitballing ideas

i just wrote the Commerative Air Force and museum and the Redtail.org and will write the 8th AF museum in a little bit....hope something comes of it.

Someone should contact this place Military Aviation Museum, 1341 Princess Anne Road, Virginia Beach, VA, (757) 721-7767


Maybe contact the usa armed forces

Guys, I'm disappointed. We can do better than this, can't we? We're raising a thousand dollars a day, which I know can be done in minutes with the number of people we have here.

So many people are complaining that there's problems with the servers, and that Joaquin should fix the problems that we have here before he tries to build a new game. That's reasonable, but, as usual, he has no money for it. Last time the servers went down, I spent three days arguing with NJD, Wig, and Muck about how "selfish" Joaquin was being with the money Dogfight "makes". Joaquin eventually solved the problems, and they apologized. Now it's happening again.

No, actually, it IS that simple, Calvin. You start a business, you take a product to market, you make certain tacit (and contractual) promises to prospective customers, then you do what you have to to keep those promises. It's called customer service. More basic than that, it's called "business". What you're describing is called, "hobby". last time I checked, "hobby" did not include a product downloaded over half a million times in the Google Play Store and who knows how many times in the Apple store. I take your point and as always appreciate your input. But your point, like Dogfight, is fundamentally flawed. We veteran players can't play. Newcomers who've entered app reviews in the Google Play Store are giving DF one star and venting their frustration because they can't play. It's a broken game people cannot play. But he fixed "immunity"? He's in business, he's supposed to fix what's broken about his product. He doesn't get brownie points for that.

Saying Joaquin is a nice, well meaning guy - of which I have no doubt - and that he's incorporated game features suggested by players in the past doesn't alter the fact that the best player ever, Brian, can't get an answer out of Joaquin and can't play! "Servers cost a couple grand." "Okay, so...what does that mean? I should be grateful that he created CTC at someone's request...while the servers, code, whatever, are so screwed up that I have zero access to playing?" I've been here for a handful of months and in that time the game has never functioned as it should. And honestly, what business person says, "I launched this product internationally via Apple and Android, it's been downloaded over half a million times by Android users alone but I can't keep it in step with the growing number of users because I lack the few thousand dollars required." ??? "Oh, by the way, I have a new company name and I just hired my first employee!" Jesus, Cal, I've started companies on millions and I've launched new products on maxed out Mastercards. I know what it is to exceed expected traffic and to have to expand a server array, and I know how much it costs. I could post a Kickstarter pitch right now and in two weeks have enough to buy Echoboom Apps if he's really that pathetically underfinanced. What Joaquin does with his money is none of my business, I just want to play the game I paid for. No Squad Wars, no new mission types, no new planes...just fix what you already have - that you sold to me - so it works as promised and keep it that way. As it is now it's a broken product and if it can't be fixed I would like my $4.99 back, plus the price of the planes and upgrades I didn't need to buy, but did anyway to support his business/hobby/whatever.

If Joaquin is in this for money he isn't doing his job or I'd be playing, not typing, right now. If he's in it for enjoyment, the same applies. Businessman or hobbiest, you don't build something like this and offer it up to hundreds of thousands of users then let it collapse for lack of a couple grand.

I hate to bring up old wounds, but this is important. This is the time to put your money where your mouth is. If you can get the money, DO IT.[/size


Now, I'm going to go send some emails for Joaquin. Feel free to join me.

@Calvin don't worry so much. Seriously, I've learned to ignore most negative comments through out the years unless they bring something new and constructive into the table. I saw for the past year ton of people saying to open an account and people would help, or that we are swimming on money and they don't understand how things are not fixed. The reality is that most just don't know what they are talking about. When you ask for money, only the people that has been in a similar situation of stress, understand it and donate. I know this for a fact because most thought we swim on money thanks to the million of downloads of Dogfight. What they don't imagine is that not even 1% of people that play Dogfight actually put any money to play it. They complain and post about downtime and stuff, but literally they haven't paid a dime. The money doesn't even cover the cost of one employee. So I know many many many of you guys that would help out there! (thankfully!) but also many that just write to complain but they can't put $1. If reality was that 50% of players put even $1, we wouldn't even need to do a kickstarter to release Dogfight Elite.

Just keep a positive spirit. Luck always strike the ones that work for it

btw, we've just updated our kickstarter video, how do you like it?
www.kickstarter.com/projects/echoboomapps/dogfight-elite

Well no offence to the first one but that may receive a little more attention, especially thanks to the voice over guy and the references to Aces from the start. Well done Joaquin, your team and VoiceOver man

Z,

Hopefully you tried the United States National World War One Museum. Here is a URL link to the museum.

www.theworldwar.org/s/110/new/index_community.aspx

way to go reid! wish i could do the same...

OMG reid that is awesome! is that in dollars?!?! Lolol

I'm about to donate....is there a dif in what u get between $10 and $1, 000?? Inquiring minds want to know

To see what different backers get with their pledging, just click on this link.

www.kickstarter.com/projects/echoboomapps/dogfight-elite

I also found out that the bombing missions with bombers will be a team effort mission. Should be a very interesting concept. Probably have to protect bomber flyer from opposing team so bomber can make his run to opposing team's base.

hey guys, i hope you like the last update, this one was for you
www.kickstarter.com/projects/echoboomapp...t-elite/posts/456703



ps. please if you like it, hit "like" or comment on it, because everyone is doing it from the forum and to kickstarter it looks like nobody has read it lol

Will there be a height limit or fuel limit in dogfight elite?

We like to keep our old planes flying here in Seattle and maybe Z. or a pilot can reach out to:

• Flying Heritage Collection www.flyingheritage.com/
• Heritage Flight Museum www.heritageflight.org/content/
• or The Museum of Flight www.museumofflight.org/

There are a lot of old pilots at those places who volunteer and might contribute and could be connected to the Boeing networks.

good luck! Seattle

p.s. despite my decline in the rankings, the rumors of my death are grossly exaggerated.

Just pledged $99.00. C'mon M.O.M.'s and dogfight pilots! Join the movement - join the Dogfight Elite pledgers.

Seattle

Congratulations Seattle!!You have won a ME262 and a Fokker DVIII!!

Hy flyer wrote: Will there be a height limit in dogfight elite?

iirc correctly you have to be over 3 foot tall and smarter than a 4 year old.

legendofkane wrote: Hey Joaquin how about charging everyone.even those that donated what they could..
a one time server maintanence fee of one dollar..face it..noobs and abusers ain't gonna pay willingly and never come to the forum. Sooo if they wanna curse or be a traitor for the day let em pay to play..lots will hate this idea and I know this..but..look what's at stake for the regulars that love this game to the Max (pun intended..so go easy on me blue).. with all the logins..where this will initiate..think of the donations...ummm semi voluntarilly..plus those abusers that just are here to ruin a game won't be online and hence easier on the mods...

I'm still down with a fee for upgrading the performance of the current low end planes on this game. A buck or 2, even up to 5. Ear mark the money to the kick starter. Any one who didnt want to spend a few dollars to upgrade the planes doesn't have to. I deleted the last post on the subject for lack of feed back. Pimp my plane update. 20 inch spinners and a subwoofer. Dingle balls and curb feelers. 6 inch lift and super swamped mud tires. Pope mobile with wings for bopes.

Hey guys i tried to get on that kick starter site but it will not let me in. I want that last $500 spot. Could you help me with this. Is a check ok. Please let me know. Thank you, looking forward to it.

There is an outfit near where I grew up in upstate NY called the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. They have a collection of flying WWI vintage planes they use to put on air shows during the summer.

www.oldrhinebeck.org/

They would be a good place to call. Perhaps you could work a game distribution deal with their gift shop.

Mark (aka Johan D)

Davy Crockett wrote: Hey guys i tried to get on that kick starter site but it will not let me in. I want that last $500 spot. Could you help me with this. Is a check ok. Please let me know. Thank you, looking forward to it.

Wouldn't let me in neither ,kept coming up error 403 are something like that.