Kptn Singh wrote:

. Wigbomb wrote:

Kptn Singh wrote: sorry about intruding here

but their is someone sporting the mom banner who has for the past few days been attempting to try to insult one of the falcon officers by trying to parody the pilot's name. This is in very poor taste. I had a talk with him yesterday and he agreed he would cease immediately but has apparently started again with a different name. This sort of behaviour is game ruining and I believe falls under the moderator's jurisdiction. We dont want this game going down into a sort of thing where everyones name is being insulted. Please have a talk with this person, or expect their name on the blacklisted thread. I love comedy and laughs but it should never be at someone else's expense.

Kptn

I've been in several games with one or another of the SwopCamel impostors. I have yet to witness a single syllable of disrespect.

For the past several weeks Dogfight has been overrun with variations on my own name. "Wigs" have been coming out of the woodwork, saying whatever they please while representing themselves as me. I saw no reason to overreact or assume it to be an effort to "insult" me.

A player's choice of name, provided it isn't overtly obscene, does not fall under the jurisdiction of the Moderators. Anyone in possession of screen caps of a "faux Swop" being vulgar, profane, overtly insulting or in any other way inappropriate should immediately pass them along to me or one of my fellow Mods, at which point we'll decide if it's something that warrants action. If you have proof of a Swop impostor teamkilling, bombing his own hangars, spawnkilling helpless planes on an airstrip or carrier deck, spouting racist, sexist or homophobic trash by all means provide us with the information. Barring any of that there's no evidence in this case that a claim of "game ruining" is justified.

haha,

and the funny thing is the so called imposter stooge put up by you used the exact same argument as the one you are putting up here. Down to the use of the word "syllable'

I take it you are implicated here pretty well. Its not the crime its the cover up thats usually the problem. thinly veiled cover up at that.

if you wanna degrade this game down to childish insulting of names, im ready to join you.

you could have at least used a bit different argument then the same argument put forth by the imposter.

again I have no problem coming down to the level of insulting name games. Oh and I SHALL go one step lower.

Kptn Singh, your distress is duly noted, understood and processed but I think you are under the wrong impression. Just to clarify the logic, your concern is of a certain naughty MOM member who is mocking one undisclosed falcon member's name, with a version of his and you would like for the all mighty SC to slap his hand. Wig has simply replied back with a, "listen, unless the name is obscene, we can't do anything about wordplay on names; if a person decides to change his name, that's his business." He further implied "if this certain individual is insulting, cursing like a sailor, spawn killing or all that defines him as a scumbag, just send us the screen caps as evidence" This is a perfectly stated answer, there is nothing personal and there is no "cover up" as you state. Who's to say what a person can and can't change his name to? Could be distasteful? Probably. Disrespectful? Probably. Illegal? Probably not. I don't think anyone is condoning such childish behavior but this is a matter that should be taken up with the individual directly. If it were me personally, I'd just laugh about it (although I've carefully chosen my name to be self mocking) and I'd certainly give some back. To quote a line from Deadwood "Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or f***ing beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back."

Blaming has no positive effect at all, nor does trying to persuade using reason and argument. No blame, no reasoning, no argument, just understanding!

my name is free to be abused and parodied

need more Kptns in the sky

MOM has been trying to have the kptn in its rank since its inception and heres a perfectly good excuse to live that fantasy

There goes this can of worms! You will now see Kptn's all over the place! I claim KptnKangaroo! Don't try to steal it!

All right then Kptn, Kojack(.sry G money that's going to be mine)...lol. who done it who is the culprit who kill the swop name ...was it coop in the kitchen with a lead pipe or richyroo working with colonel pata in the study with a knife...lol sorry just had to pick the moment. .lol we will quarter the pilot and have him sent to the nest for falcon consumption.

Cant be me coop, I'm NOT a MOM

That lets Swop of the hook Kptn.....Kptn Kook is mine.

Kptn Singh wrote: my name is free to be abused and parodied

need more Kptns in the sky

PAUL has been dying to have the kptn in his kitchen since he saw this
and heres a perfectly good excuse to live that fantasy

FANTASTIC! A DREAM COME TRUE!

FINALLY! I CAN DIE HAPPY!

Just want to throw out "KptnCaveman" loved that cartoon.

Oy.

I'm sorry Singh, but I've lost track of which of your groundless complaints, spurious claims and childish threats is which! Let me see if I can sort them, and you, out:

You're jumping the gun as you typically do and leaping to the defense of an "offended" friend who has yet to breathe a word to me himself. Swop is a longtime Dogfight friend of mine, too, and my inbox has always been open to him. If he has a grievance I have yet to hear word one about it.

You launched this stream of nonsense by telling the Moderators what our jobs are. My original response was as a Moderator. We know our jobs, thank you very much. I've explained what a Mod will and will not address with disciplinary action. You have in the falcons an exemplary Moderator. Try telling Kevy what to do and see where that gets you.

Now then, with my Moderator hat off; You are the assumingest mofo I've met in a long time! All your Sherlockian sleuthing has led you to the brilliant conclusion that I, myself, am the Swop impostor! Because we both used the word "syllable". Genius. Never mind that a glance at the top of the Top 100 would tell you at any given moment what my in-game name is, you've got it all figured out and when a mighty falcon figures something out it stays figured out no matter how colossally wrong it proves to be. Happily there are only about four or five of you thin-skinned zealots, the rest of the falcons are a pleasant, friendly bunch.

I don't care who the fake Swop is. Until Swop himself writes to me and asks me to follow up this whole thing is a non-issue. Again, I've been in the game with a Mock Swop (how you think I pulled that off when the Swop impostor is ME I'm sure I don't know!) and I saw no disrespect.

Sidebar to Pedrinho: no, Ped my friend, I was never anything but flattered by all the Wig-postors flying around! I thought it was a hilarious lark and zero cause for offense. But then, as Noush has pointed out, I have a bit thicker skin. I don't even believe thick or thin skin to be the issue; there's a sense of superiority and knee-jerk hair-trigger self-righteousness that goes with being one of those four or five too-tightly-wound falcons. Thank ParrotHead's god of atheists we don't have any of those in M.O.M.

Singh, sling all the childish playground threats you like. Ya got nuthin', bub. We just don't care. You'll bust a blood vessel (if you haven't already) trying to "get even" and all you'll get is even more ridiculous than you already are. This was never, Wigs or Swops, a "hate game", it was A JOKE! If you want to turn it into something mean-spirited, I'm fully convinced that your foolish posturing about being able to sink lower than we would is accurate. Knock yourself out. I, for one, will enjoy seeing just how low you sink over something as trivial as this.

Ronnie Biggs, sir, your plea for more compassion was by no means lost on me. As both M.O.M den mother and Moderator I try always to default to compassion first and last. I've been a practicing pre-sectarian Buddhist for 28 years. And I know full well that there's always plenty of room for improvement in that regard. I know, too, that this aspect of my life does not dovetail comfortably with the faith of choice of Swop, Shiloh, Sky Davis or some of the other falcons. I'll say it again; Swop has long been a friend, we've talked about a great many things, we've not always agreed, and when in the past few days I've encountered Swop in-game he's said nothing about an impostor, certainly nothing about suspecting the impostor to be me, and has launched no idiotic idle threats of retaliation. Next time I see him I'll be as friendly as I've always been and I'll trust him as I always have to know that it's genuine. I don't line up with Swop on a lot of things, jesus or in-game sermonizing or the subjectivity of spawnkilling among 'em, but I don't go out of my way to hurt people's feelings, ever. Nor, to my knowledge, does any other M.O.M. Singh, Shiloh, Sky Davis, Von Pay...come out from behind Swop's skirt and own your own whining or keep it to yourself. The holier-than-everyone act has exhausted its novelty value.

Swop, please talk to me if you need to.

Singh, please buy a helmet. And a clue.

something tells me this isnt gonna end well for me

oh well

as they say

break a leg ask questions later measure twice dont make a right whole world blind off the turnip truck cant force square pegs not in kansas penny saved leading the blind

Here's my two cents... I am surprised this is happening, while I understand that many of us have great senses of humor about a lot of things...look at the MOM thread it's hilarious. The Wig names all over was funny and cool because Wig didn't mind, because if he did you all would have stopped in respect for Wig, well the MOMs anyway, does Camel not deserve the same respect? I have know many MOMs and Falcons to be really cool people and I am surprised that you didn't change it when you knew Camel was upset. We cant control names outside our squads but I thought Falcons and MOMs got along... Reminds me of a guy in I knew high school named Ersin. When he was a kid he was teased by kids calling him, "Ersin the person!" to which I laughed,
"Why do you care?"and the weird bit is, he really was upset about it, so maybe you don't understand why he cares but you can see what the effect is.

Now that's what I call a 42 gun broadside!

Richyroo wrote: Cant be me coop, I'm NOT a MOM

Oh yes you are once a MOM always a MOM Brother

Help! my Wig's on fire!

. Wigbomb wrote: Oy.

I'm sorry Singh, but I've lost track of which of your groundless complaints, spurious claims and childish threats is which! Let me see if I can sort them, and you, out:

You're jumping the gun as you typically do and leaping to the defense of an "offended" friend who has yet to breathe a word to me himself. Swop is a longtime Dogfight friend of mine, too, and my inbox has always been open to him. If he has a grievance I have yet to hear word one about it.

You launched this stream of nonsense by telling the Moderators what our jobs are. My original response was as a Moderator. We know our jobs, thank you very much. I've explained what a Mod will and will not address with disciplinary action. You have in the falcons an exemplary Moderator. Try telling Kevy what to do and see where that gets you.

Now then, with my Moderator hat off; You are the assumingest mofo I've met in a long time! All your Sherlockian sleuthing has led you to the brilliant conclusion that I, myself, am the Swop impostor! Because we both used the word "syllable". Genius. Never mind that a glance at the top of the Top 100 would tell you at any given moment what my in-game name is, you've got it all figured out and when a mighty falcon figures something out it stays figured out no matter how colossally wrong it proves to be. Happily there are only about four or five of you thin-skinned zealots, the rest of the falcons are a pleasant, friendly bunch.

I don't care who the fake Swop is. Until Swop himself writes to me and asks me to follow up this whole thing is a non-issue. Again, I've been in the game with a Mock Swop (how you think I pulled that off when the Swop impostor is ME I'm sure I don't know!) and I saw no disrespect.

Sidebar to Pedrinho: no, Ped my friend, I was never anything but flattered by all the Wig-postors flying around! I thought it was a hilarious lark and zero cause for offense. But then, as Noush has pointed out, I have a bit thicker skin. I don't even believe thick or thin skin to be the issue; there's a sense of superiority and knee-jerk hair-trigger self-righteousness that goes with being one of those four or five too-tightly-wound falcons. Thank ParrotHead's god of atheists we don't have any of those in M.O.M.

Singh, sling all the childish playground threats you like. Ya got nuthin', bub. We just don't care. You'll bust a blood vessel (if you haven't already) trying to "get even" and all you'll get is even more ridiculous than you already are. This was never, Wigs or Swops, a "hate game", it was A JOKE! If you want to turn it into something mean-spirited, I'm fully convinced that your foolish posturing about being able to sink lower than we would is accurate. Knock yourself out. I, for one, will enjoy seeing just how low you sink over something as trivial as this.

Ronnie Biggs, sir, your plea for more compassion was by no means lost on me. As both M.O.M den mother and Moderator I try always to default to compassion first and last. I've been a practicing pre-sectarian Buddhist for 28 years. And I know full well that there's always plenty of room for improvement in that regard. I know, too, that this aspect of my life does not dovetail comfortably with the faith of choice of Swop, Shiloh, Sky Davis or some of the other falcons. I'll say it again; Swop has long been a friend, we've talked about a great many things, we've not always agreed, and when in the past few days I've encountered Swop in-game he's said nothing about an impostor, certainly nothing about suspecting the impostor to be me, and has launched no idiotic idle threats of retaliation. Next time I see him I'll be as friendly as I've always been and I'll trust him as I always have to know that it's genuine. I don't line up with Swop on a lot of things, jesus or in-game sermonizing or the subjectivity of spawnkilling among 'em, but I don't go out of my way to hurt people's feelings, ever. Nor, to my knowledge, does any other M.O.M. Singh, Shiloh, Sky Davis, Von Pay...come out from behind Swop's skirt and own your own whining or keep it to yourself. The holier-than-everyone act has exhausted its novelty value.

Swop, please talk to me if you need to.

Singh, please buy a helmet. And a clue.

too long to read bro

I never said u r him

I said ur in communication with him hence the same argument he gave me in chat as you gave, word by word here. Despite this lengthy response calling me 'mofo' (just say it bro, no) I reckon you will now have a convo with him and ask him to cease. That is all im looking for. I dont know anything about if swop said anything to you or not, I just saw this guy with that name and I found it in poor taste given the context of the argument you and swop had about insulting scripture a week or two ago.

yes, using the same words and argument as the imposter did in chat does establish your communication with said person. their is no going around it.

I've been gone for a bit away from family and the forum. I get a chance to get on the forum and wish I hadn't ...... No smypathey for Swop from me.....Maybe about as much for him as he had for me on the spawnkilling thread..... Suck it up your holiness........ Should I change that, is that weird... does it make any sense....what else could I quote...... Maybe it's just someone that like's the name..... Why don't you all just pray for him.....seem's to work every where else.....Gawwwwwdddd I'm Pi^^ed......... over a game....shheeeessssssuuuussssss......I'm going to smoke... should I hit submit or should I not.....

dentinhead wrote: I've been gone for a bit away from family and the forum. I get a chance to get on the forum and wish I hadn't ...... No smypathey for Swop from me.....Maybe about as much for him as he had for me on the spawnkilling thread..... Suck it up your holiness........ Should I change that, is that weird... does it make any sense....what else could I quote...... Maybe it's just someone that like's the name..... Why don't you all just pray for him.....seem's to work every where else.....Gawwwwwdddd I'm Pi^^ed......... over a game....shheeeessssssuuuussssss......I'm going to smoke... should I hit submit or should I not.....

Thank 'CHRIST' for the submit button!

Love you dent!!

I may have added my comments without fully knowing the whole situation. I apologize for any disrespect. None was intended.

When I was at skool, we used to call a kid names, then one day he turned around to us and said "stick and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me". So from that day on, it was sticks and stones all the way!

Kptn Singh wrote: something tells me this isnt gonna end well for me

oh well

as they say

break a leg ask questions later measure twice dont make a right whole world blind off the turnip truck cant force square pegs not in kansas penny saved leading the blind

Singh, there's always something there to remind me...of why we began as friends. I'm not even sure why but this reply cracked me up. Can we just do as we've done in the past and agree that there's been a misunderstanding instead a tossing around threats and bile? I'm 102% in if you are. Even if you aren't.

Snidely, your comments are greatly appreciated and, as are everyone else's, taken to heart. Now...learn how to spell your own first name. (But thanks for the wisdom, pal.)

Swop Impostor; I'm sure you've been following this. I'm sure, too, that trampling delicate feelings was not your intention. I don't tell M.O.Ms what to do or not do, I tell 'em to look to their own individual agency as free thinking, sensitive people and to govern their own actions. So...give some thought to all this stuff and do, or don't do, as you see fit. Come back and hit me with another even more widespread wave of Wigs...I'm in the barrel anxiously awaiting your shots.

Swop, you're probably one of the most oddly revered people in this entire game. Find your way to taking the imitation as flattery. Trust me, it's at least as easy as defaulting to being offended. What would Jesus do? Based on decades of close reading of the bible, I suspect he'd see it as a compliment and laugh. Don't get caught up in this "everything is an insult until proven otherwise" trap. Down that path lies heartache...and not much fun. Jesus would want you to have fun.

Now then, can I share with you all the good news? (yeah yeah, that was another "Jesus Freak" crack. "Jesus Freaks" and "Christians" are two completely different...ah, screw it.)

Join me in celebrating the return of a wayward M.O.M:

Richyroo is back in the heathen fold!!! Welcome home, Rich! Now get that damn banner and tag back up and start slashing your way to salvation through every plane in Dogfightdom save mine.

By the way; Richyroo is the Swop Impostor. I'm only kidding but d'ya think that'll matter? Nope. You're welcome, Richard. A rasher of indignant dreck from all directions, just my homecoming gift to ya, sport.

M.O.M is Rich (or vicey versey) again...WAHOO!!! The drinks are on Roo!!!!

I take offense to Cuss Like A Sailor! Knock it off!

ParrotHead
SK2, USN

Really? RichyPoo's a real MOM? Ok. He can say cuss like a sailor BUT he's the only one. Welcome back!

Now I think I'm gonna RichyPoo my name in celebration.

. Wigbomb wrote: Now then, can I share with you all the good news? (yeah yeah, that was another "Jesus Freak" crack. "Jesus Freaks" and "Christians" are two completely different...ah, screw it.)

Join me in celebrating the return of a wayward M.O.M:

Richyroo is back in the heathen fold!!! Welcome home, Rich! Now get that damn banner and tag back up and start slashing your way to salvation through every plane in Dogfightdom save mine.

By the way; Richyroo is the Swop Impostor. I'm only kidding but d'ya think that'll matter? Nope. You're welcome, Richard. A rasher of indignant sh*t from all directions, just my homecoming gift to ya, sport.

M.O.M is Rich (or vicey versey) again...WAHOO!!! The drinks are on Roo!!!!

Well thanks for that Wig, right in the middle of WW3 ( oh they could make a good dogfight game outta that)

Did you not know I'm camera shy.

Please find below, a beautiful banner I once war (see what I did there )

Wow.

And wow again.

Huh, just one more wow. (And some exclamations for you to spread as you wish on this text: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I believe I found the reason I like MOM members so much: its their sense of humor.

Now, puting a break on this fake-swop-police-case, I want to say a few things:

1 - Mr. Hyde is prematurely dead. I threw that bottle through the window. Played two missions today as Mr. Hyde, trying to see the fun in bombing my own hangars, killing my teammates, and messing around with noobs, bullying them. Didn't get what is all about this behavior. I am ashamed. Where the heck is the fun on being an arsehole? I will die without the answer. Sorry, RichyRoo, I tried hardly to piss you off as a badass, but I didn't manage to do it. I failed. Miserably. Fortunately. When that poor blue left the game, I felt guilt, shame, remorse. No more potions in bottles.

2 - Richyroo, when are MrsRichyroo going to be a MOM? (glad to play against you both, sorry for being in such a strange situation. Hope we can meet again without Mr. Hyde)

3 - Dent, please, stop smoking. If you want it so hard, let your plane smoke for you, I can help on this one... lol

4 - Wig and Singh: please, both of you, go to Jolly Roger drink something strong, and only go home together, under a drunk hug.

5 - This game is really driving us nuts!

Religious zealotry will not be countenanced within the ranks of M.O.M. If you are a Muslim MOM will throw a Christian at you and kill you. If you are a Jew M.O.M will throw a Hindu at you and kill you. Within individual religions M.O.M will beat a Protestant to death using a Catholic as a club. We accept all faiths, philosophies, lifestyles, preferences, and kill them. Buddhists get a pass on this one because they’re nice.

Can I get an AMEN! Lets go kill some stuff. Make it happen Kptn.

WELCOME BACK RICH ! BOUT TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NICE !!!

Now, which squad do you think this DENT "imposter" is from?
POO a spy for WORDAGS? See his "new" avatar. Mmmmmmm?



This is what a detective would call evidence.

Pretty sure that is a jackelope-thingy in disguise!

Is DENT the smartest one here? You decide.