Ok..keep it the same..!!!!!!!

The kill range is fine right where it is now, I remember a few years ago, the kill range was insane, not today kill range is substantially shorter range. Geeez leave the gm alone it's fine.

This seems silly to change this. However looking at who is supporting this idea, it's not much of a surprise. I say keep it the same!

[M*]JÄCK BÜRTÖN1 wrote: The kill range is fine right where it is now, I remember a few years ago, the kill range was insane, not today kill range is substantially shorter range. Geeez leave the gm alone it's fine.

I agree...i spent my time trying to perfect this...i don't think I should have to relearn because of a lack of skill of others...they have the same opportunity to shoot me.

Just a thought but did all this talk of kill range to far, come from a new player that still hasn't played?
I was this guy once, I learned how to shoot with over 2 years of flying and now you want that changed?

I don't think a soldier on the ground or parachute should be the most deadly or have range farther then the planes and have unlimited ammo on the ground. And I'm not sure if the planes would be able to out range a tank either back then but "armored" tanks are sitting ducks even at a distance and out of a tanks range. (Smoke grenade for tanks). If the bullet distance was made shorter and have trajectory like tanks it would result in the actual name of the game, Dogfight not Flying duel over the valley of death. I'm for shorter range and drop. Just another level of skill to thin the herd so to speak.

Another Ammo amount upgrade would be nice with increased hit count. And faster tank load upgrade too, lol

I agree with gizmo.... a lot of thing are not realistic IE.carb freezing in snowy flying and in tight turns for any amount of time more than a few seconds or inverted you will starve for fuel (just saying keep it the same)

Gizmo541 wrote: There's a loads of things in the game thats not realistic, I say keep it as it is.

I go with #3 . Bullets in WWI was not long ranged , but It would go straight and eventually fall....So I go with zup`s #3 option !

Keep it the same!!! It's a game, not reality.

so true ....rabbit

darraxx wrote: Yep go ahead and change it see how many will paying guys will leave and how many just wont buy it .all i see i some want the advantage because they just haven taken the time to learn to shoot from long range and it easy as hell once you figure it twisting guys have the advantages in close in turn fighting. So take away the only advantage the head on guys have. Just who needs the waambulance here. You dont like head on fighting stay the hell out of bombing missions there are now three games designed for twisting and turning style go fly them all they want is a super kdr when your deaths have no meaning in your ranking so.they get into bombing games knowing they can out turn others and if they get in close they get the kill.

bullets climb to a velocity...then they drop and start tumbling...

Eagle22 wrote: I go with #3 . Bullets in WWI was not long ranged , but It would go straight and eventually fall....So I go with zup`s #3 option !

I say change it to more realistic bullets...this is not star wars...gotta admit that I m glad this topic came up...this turns down new members from joining in...it gets discouraging for them and they don t invest in the game..we need to see more new members on here...the more members the better this game will grow..financially and technically...i almost stopped playing because of this when I first started...it was getting ridiculously hard for me to make any close approach...we all have to give it a chance and try it...it would get us all closer in combat and way more fun to all..not considering being more like the real dog fighting that those pilots encountered...change are good...keeps us on our toes... I would really like for us all to at least try it to see and if it doesn t work out we can always go back. Zuperman said it..it is was easy to change..so why not...Yes for me ...all the way..thank you RL

This a dead horse fellas. No matter how you beat it, its not going to run again. It was voted on a few days ago, right here on this forum. More than 50% voted to keep the game the same. All of the high ranked players went through the same thing. we developed our skills and learned how to shoot. This is what you need to do also. It will feel great when you get the hang of it.

I would even like the game to go back to when we started. I know that won't happen so my answer is to keep it the same, keep it simple.

You do know that Crockett and I fly nude. You do know that if you shorten the kill range you may get a better peek at us.... I know I know.... Crockett will be the better looking one as he's older..... Wish I could whistle right now..... I agree with Crockett, keep it the same,, I don't need that image of that ole man in my head...

Dentinhead wrote: You do know that Crockett and I fly nude. You do know that if you shorten the kill range you may get a better peek at us.... I know I know.... Crockett will be the better looking one as he's older..... Wish I could whistle right now..... I agree with Crockett, keep it the same,, I don't need that image of that ole man in my head...

I will now go and burn a goat as an offering, in an attempt to get those images out of my head!

[*M] TR wrote:

Dentinhead wrote: You do know that Crockett and I fly nude. You do know that if you shorten the kill range you may get a better peek at us.... I know I know.... Crockett will be the better looking one as he's older..... Wish I could whistle right now..... I agree with Crockett, keep it the same,, I don't need that image of that ole man in my head...

I will now go and burn a goat as an offering, in an attempt to get those images out of my head!

Could you burn one for me too? Ugh

Dentinhead wrote: You do know that Crockett and I fly nude.

TMI dude, TMI...urp. I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Guys, if playing nude is the secret of your KDR, I will try it at home TONIGHT!

[*M] TR wrote:

Dentinhead wrote: You do know that Crockett and I fly nude. You do know that if you shorten the kill range you may get a better peek at us.... I know I know.... Crockett will be the better looking one as he's older..... Wish I could whistle right now..... I agree with Crockett, keep it the same,, I don't need that image of that ole man in my head...

I will now go and burn a goat as an offering, in an attempt to get those images out of my head!

DAVY says, and once again DENTINHEAD reveals another of our secrets, some guys can't be trusted.

Ehhhh, TR, before you burn that goat can you threw him into my cockpit for a few minutes, I just want to make sure he is un-blemished.

TMI...LOL

Dentinhead wrote: You do know that Crockett and I fly nude. You do know that if you shorten the kill range you may get a better peek at us.... I know I know.... Crockett will be the better looking one as he's older..... Wish I could whistle right now..... I agree with Crockett, keep it the same,, I don't need that image of that ole man in my head...

TEXT EACH OTHER ON THE PHONE ALSO ....SEE HOW THAT WORKS.....LOL

[*M] MISFIT CROCKETT wrote:

[*M] TR wrote:

Dentinhead wrote: You do know that Crockett and I fly nude. You do know that if you shorten the kill range you may get a better peek at us.... I know I know.... Crockett will be the better looking one as he's older..... Wish I could whistle right now..... I agree with Crockett, keep it the same,, I don't need that image of that ole man in my head...

I will now go and burn a goat as an offering, in an attempt to get those images out of my head!

DAVY says, and once again DENTINHEAD reveals another of our secrets, some guys can't be trusted.

Ehhhh, TR, before you burn that goat can you threw him into my cockpit for a few minutes, I just want to make sure he is un-blemished.

Flying nude?

When I try that the iPad doesn't respond to my joystick!





(Btw.......they say a private shooting his rifle at von Richthofen was the one that actually killed him.)

The joystick responds to the ipad, trust me I know what I'm talking about.

Rudolf Rednose wrote: Flying nude?

When I try that the iPad doesn't respond to my joystick!





(Btw.......they say a private shooting his rifle at von Richthofen was the one that actually killed him.)

A long time ago, a guy did an investigation into who killed richtofen. Written about 40 some years ago. His best analysis says that an antiaircraft machine gun brought him down. He details the situation, and gets accounts from people who were there. Pretty interesting read, the book was called, Who killed the red baron? I believe it was written by P J Carisella.

[*M] TR wrote: This a dead horse fellas. No matter how you beat it, its not going to run again. It was voted on a few days ago, right here on this forum. More than 50% voted to keep the game the same. All of the high ranked players went through the same thing. we developed our skills and learned how to shoot. This is what you need to do also. It will feel great when you get the hang of it.

Just for the record:

The less than 50% voted to keep the bullets as they are. Yes the horse is dead, but it's color will not change. The vote results show that more than 50% voted not to change because several players used second accounts to double their votes. No, those votes were not all made by Pistol Pete. (I don't think any of the other cheats want to labor the point either.)

There were a total of 130 votes.
There were 8 duplicate votes. (Plus Pistol Pete's 1 for his now banned primary account)
So 122 total votes.
50% would have been 61 votes votes.
Assuming that the 8 duplicates were all to keep it the same there would be only 58 votes for no change. This assumption is actually pretty safe in light of who these double votes were cast by. (Again, they probably do not want the point to be labored.)
Zuperman has said that it won't change "at least for now". That does not sound like the horse is dead. Maybe it should be... but it isn't. It may ride again some day. Hopefully if Zuperman ever authors another poll there will be more integrity in the voting.

Why in the world would someone cheat a poll about a video game? Do they feel so entitled that they think their opinion trumps the opinion of the community as a whole?

zuperman wrote: Poll is now closed.
I won't change the current system at least for now. Players are very divided about it and the current system is very hard on tanks and parachute/soldier, so what I did on the update is increase the number of required bullets to kill a tank.


Although the vote to keep the current system is high, the votes for a change (shorter distance + curve ballistics) is just a bit higher (after removing duplicated accounts). So many want a change but they don't agree on which one.

In short, I may change it but for now it stays the way it is.

Poll: Kill Range Poll

TR, I'm not trying to stir things up, I'm just responding to your inaccurate statement. The vote was very close but it was not in favor of 'no change'. Keep the facts straight and I promise to leave you alone.

"The Mighty" McFate

Yeah...

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[NLR] McFate wrote:

[*M] TR wrote: This a dead horse fellas. No matter how you beat it, its not going to run again. It was voted on a few days ago, right here on this forum. More than 50% voted to keep the game the same. All of the high ranked players went through the same thing. we developed our skills and learned how to shoot. This is what you need to do also. It will feel great when you get the hang of it.

Just for the record:

The less than 50% voted to keep the bullets as they are. Yes the horse is dead, but it's color will not change. The vote results show that more than 50% voted not to change because several players used second accounts to double their votes. No, those votes were not all made by Pistol Pete. (I don't think any of the other cheats want to labor the point either.)

There were a total of 130 votes.
There were 8 duplicate votes. (Plus Pistol Pete's 1 for his now banned primary account)
So 122 total votes.
50% would have been 61 votes votes.
Assuming that the 8 duplicates were all to keep it the same there would be only 58 votes for no change. This assumption is actually pretty safe in light of who these double votes were cast by. (Again, they probably do not want the point to be labored.)
Zuperman has said that it won't change "at least for now". That does not sound like the horse is dead. Maybe it should be... but it isn't. It may ride again some day. Hopefully if Zuperman ever authors another poll there will be more integrity in the voting.

Why in the world would someone cheat a poll about a video game? Do they feel so entitled that they think their opinion trumps the opinion of the community as a whole?

zuperman wrote: Poll is now closed.
I won't change the current system at least for now. Players are very divided about it and the current system is very hard on tanks and parachute/soldier, so what I did on the update is increase the number of required bullets to kill a tank.


Although the vote to keep the current system is high, the votes for a change (shorter distance + curve ballistics) is just a bit higher (after removing duplicated accounts). So many want a change but they don't agree on which one.

In short, I may change it but for now it stays the way it is.

Poll: Kill Range Poll

TR, I'm not trying to stir things up, I'm just responding to your inaccurate statement. The vote was very close but it was not in favor of 'no change'. Keep the facts straight and I promise to leave you alone.

"The Mighty" McFate

Here is the screenshot of Zupermans final tally on the vote. Notice that he does not eliminate the 8 you say, and i make no comment on, disputed votes.

Now clearly the numbers show 50+% in favor of keep it as it is. A combination of the other two categories does not offset the minor, .8%, difference. The numbers for a ballistically more accurate profile only amount to roughly 1/3 of all votes cast. Combine that with shorter distance votes, its still less than a majority, no matter how tiny. I think my statement is fairly accurate.
Now as far as the dead horse, Zuperman could in fact breathe life into it again if he chooses, but at this time the nag has died.

I also agree that the shooting range is to far........

[*M] TR wrote: Now clearly the numbers show 50+% in favor of keep it as it is. A combination of the other two categories does not offset the minor, .8%, difference. The numbers for a ballistically more accurate profile only amount to roughly 1/3 of all votes cast. Combine that with shorter distance votes, its still less than a majority, no matter how tiny. I think my statement is fairly accurate.
Now as far as the dead horse, Zuperman could in fact breathe life into it again if he chooses, but at this time the nag has died.

TR,

If you look at the list of 130 names who voted, you will see that 9 of them are now banned. If he still counted '[*M]enstral Cycle's vote there would be 8 removed from the voting. Those yellow names are the names which Zuperman removed from his count. So the poll still shows 130 votes but he "manually " removed them for consideration. Yes, the poll shows +50% unless you do the math.





Again, just keeping the facts straight, however silly the issue may be.