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bopes wrote:
Simmo wrote: Wig. Red card.I did not bow out because you disapproved of my tactics. I don't care what anyone thinks about anyone else's tactics. I bowed out because I could see that I was to become an outsider regarding a particular moral issue. Even as we flew today, you expressed fatherly tolerance for my 'alternative' view about Jon's story, as if the truth is written by him and him alone, and that the burden of evidence lies elswhere. Stolen Valour pretenders are commonplace. They are criminals.
Simmo take a deep breath. To prove a violation of a criminal law in this country (USA) a jury (an actual jury, not a semi-anonymous web forum) has to be shown actual evidence (not a lack of evidence) that convinces them BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. And the burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
Are you saying you have such evidence? If so, by all means, tell us what it is! And then report it to whatever branch of US law enforcement has jurisdiction over the Stolen Valor Act!
Thanks.
This may or may not be long and rambling...Simmo, I'm not going to say you're right or you're wrong, same goes for everyone, we all live in free, democratic countries, so each is entitled to his or hers opinion and the right to voice it. Was Duckwing spinning us a tale? We will never know one way or the other,but read back to my post a few days ago, re: Obamas closed media visit to Walter Reed Hospital, it's known he awarded one purple heart, to whom and for what has not been divulged, he met with a number of wounded service personnel, it is known that amongst those he met with was a marine who lost three limbs to a IED. Now we can find nothing out about Jon, we don't know why, this visit by Obama was closed to the media, that means the government did not want anyone to know something and think on this, Obama visiting and awarding a purple heart, would be great PR for him and his party in view of the forth coming elections, yet it has not been used as such. So two enigmas, that may or may not be tied to each other, we may never know. In Westminster Cathedral, lies the tomb of the unknown soldier, know body knows who he was, or what he did, he may have been a hero, he may have cowered in a corner when the whistle blew to go over the top of the trench, but he lays there in the tomb, the personification of all those who gave up their life that others could live, work and think freely. So for everyone here Jon has become that unknown soldier in the tomb, giving up his life for the freedom of others, so let's honour him as the personification of all those who gave their life, their limbs, their sanity for the freedom of others. Who was Duckwing? He was every grunt, he was every marine, he was every airman, he was every sailor, who has ever fought, suffered and died, be it friend or foe.
Now so far as I can tell, nobody here has taken offence toward you, so you are welcome to come visit and chat, pass some time, have a chuckle, so can I suggest to everyone, let's shake hands, hug if you want to and continue to be friends.
Sorry if that's a bit of a ramble, I'm not given to eloquence like Wigbomb.
While I'm here, can we please grab dibley with both hands, good player and good chap all round, he posted a way back, but seems to have been overlooked.
Also be on the look out for clay god, wig will bear me up on him, he's in his thirties and excellent player.
Ok I'm going back to sleep.
The following user(s) said Thank You: [*M]coop, iQQi, bopes, MaD!, Big Tex, Oedius Momicus, SheiBe Kopf, Wigbomb, Paul Mantz, Jr.
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