Congratulations Ghostrider1, major accomplishment. Chalk up yet another M.O.M Moraf.

Congratulations Ghost!!

Nice flying against you in that dogfight mission Big Tex.. Congrats on the Win!

GHOSTRIDER1 wrote: I'm ready for my moraf banner wig..... But let me create a photobucket account to put it and my old one in so i dont lose it

Congratulation on getting MORAF.

The last 2 rungs are the longest right? Half way thru 29 and not counting yet...

Cricket wrote:

Wigbomb wrote: M.O.Ms, I need to unburden myself. This comes as a shock to me as much as I assume it will to you:

I’m gay.

I frankly had no idea about it until Whiplash, posing as a “friend” to infiltrate my Facebook page, snagged a photo of me. A photo that is clearly a gay smoking gun. It’s a pic of me with…Santa.

I realize it’s been naïve of me, not recognizing my own gayness when there was the evidence staring me right in the gay face with it’s gay red suit and gay beard and gay jolliness. The ho ho hoing should’ve been the tip off, it always makes me feel funny in the pants. I tried to convince myself it was just normal, healthy greed. Ho = gifts = funny in the pants, y’know? Hell, when I was four I didn’t even like girls. But I was a huge Santa fan. In one blinding flash of Dogfight private message clarity my entire misspent gay life of denial has come into focus. The poseur hairdo, the trying-too-hard-to-look-butch wardrobe, the cheesy faux-metal tattoos. Uh…hang on…those are pics of Whiplash.

Well, anyway, I must definitely be gay, there’s no denying the Santa thing. I mean, Santa…c’mon. I might as well have an earring.

I also have Whiplash to thank for pointing out that I have sex with animals. While cyber-stalking my Facebook presence he was also spending time trawling my poetry site. The public site with a global readership in the thousands. That Whiplash, he’s a master sleuth. Apparently what I thought was Lang-Po, Spam-Lit, Spoetry and Flarf, the most influential avant garde poetry movement in the past twenty years, the core collective of which I’m a member, turns out to be an admission of bestiality. My girlfriend’s cats are starting to give me weird looks…

While Whiplash has made a hobby out of collecting without consent the names, email addresses, phone numbers and photographs of M.O.Ms, Misfits and presumably other Dogfight players, prowling our personal information, scrounging around in our various sites, blogs and accounts for anything he might twist and try to use against us, obsessing about strangers in a video game forum, I’ve been a latently gay animal f*cker. Who knew?

To the M.O.Ms and Misfits and others who are undoubtedly also closet cases in Whiplash’s cross hairs, I encourage you to come out. It’s a huge relief. Even if my girlfriend’s cats disagree.

A DF player who spent some time in a not-so-private-after-all chat room of Whiplash’s sent me the following quotes of Whiplash talking about his super- secret powder-keg stockpile of damning info about us,

“If you give it up, I will lose everything.”

"if I push and hammer them with everything and they slip loose I have nothing left…”

“…if I always hint at what I found they will know what I mean and don't know what might happen"

These sure sound like the words of a stable, balanced adult to me, yep. I’m a little surprised that Whiplash invests so much of his self-worth in obsessing over someone who’s queer for Claus. But, what a person does with his time and…whatever else he’s doing…is his business. Right?

Okay, only-partly-joking aside; remove Whiplash’s allegedly hetero hard-on for me and M.O.M entirely from the equation, forget all the childishness and bizarre ax grinding. The important take-away here is that harassment, bigotry and homophobia are not funny. No one in the Dogfight community – or anywhere - should have to endure being judged, teased or persecuted on the basis of their sexual orientation, regardless of what a Whiplash might think about it. And he does think about it.

We should assume there are Dogfight players who actually are LGBT and show them the exact same respect we expect to be shown. Whiplash types are free to practice their narrow-mindedness in private. I like to think such destructive ignorance is unwelcome here.

Clearly, all Dogfighters should lock down their personal data lest Whiplash or someone like him decide it’s worth violating, distorting and weaponizing against them to whatever twisted purpose of his. After months of his black ops now Whiplash boasts of, “…the privacy invasion lawsuit I can launch.” I assume he means against me and/or members of M.O.M. Now that would be entertainment.

If his motives weren’t so ugly I’d be mildly amused by the time and effort Whiplash burns thinking about, intruding upon, scheming over me and M.O.M, (and The Misfits, and 420, and etc etc etc) and our private identities, and our aberrant sexuality.

I suppose, though, it is comforting on some level to know that Dogfight has a self-appointed “mom and dad” maintaining Gaywatch over us. (Albeit a dysfunctional mom and dad without a scruple or a clue between them.) Y’know, in case someone turns out to have a boner for the Easter Bunny.

The guy is a creep. Last time I ran into him he was calling me by my actual name and telling me to "just wait ". No doubt he has a collection of my pictures lifted from my Myspace, Facebook, and Put Your Space On My Face profiles.

What other personal information has he swiped from me? From you? Who knows. I seem to remember a bunch of Misfits getting prank called a few months ago... Get a life, Whipless. There are far more productive things you can do than plot to fuck with Dogfighters using their personal information.. Ya know, like collecting Maritza Mendez photos. Soooooie!

And I never really had a boner for Santa Claus. Donner and Blitzen are total studs though.

JUST SO YOU KNOW!!!

Hey M.O.M.s! Shouldn't there be a "Ghostrider makes MORAF!" thread??

just saying...


Well anyways, Congrats Ghostrider1!!

I ran into MsGuided yesterday... skills beyond level and a really big mouth. She/he is on my SK at will list should the opportunity arise. Kept calling me a punk...lol Victory against douchebags are always doubly sweet...

Wigbomb wrote:

Chocks Away wrote: Just met MsGuided

Things started well, (despite the greeting 'oh no not another Mom'), both blue team, until i missed a hanger in my tank. Then the flood gates opened and it was anti men spew from then on. I called her sexist and she said about time! She really wants plenty of MOM lurv.... dish it out lads!

Wig joined and she called him a p@#ck, told him to find another game etc... i fancy staying well clear of this spiky little urchin, no more engaging in chat/abuse. She reckoned her previous tag was devo or something, wig and I were trying to guess, she clocked up 90 odd kills, patting herself on the back, fair play, shame about mom hate.

That was an...interesting...game, Chockster. She has skillz beyond those of mortal noob but the M.O.M hate was weirdly fierce. I do remember a player called Devo something or other from clear back a couple years ago but it's a faint memory and I don't recall anything specific that'd prompt the kind of cracks she was making at me. The Devo thing sounded plausible but could be a red herring. Her syntax suggested she's not an ESL player, that rules out some possibilities and points to others. I have a few thoughts on who it might be which would explain the play level as well as the rancor.

Sorry. I just got into a heated debate with Whippy, and apparently was out of my league.

I tried to stoop to his level and failed. He seems obsessed with legalities. I was trying desperately to keep it simple, with questions suchas "Why the hell did you break into Star Chamber anyway?" His answer would prattle on about how actually, he didn't break in, he just had to Google a legally obtained email, and he never took screenshots or posted on it, he instructed others. I resisted the urge to type "WHO THE F*CK CARES?", but since he obviously does, I had to be content with letting him feel in control.

Although, to his credit, he actually did make me feel lost and confused, for the first time in a while.. He seems to think that just because this is nothing more than a game to me, I feel licensed to leave behind my sense of human decency? Oh well.

When I mentioned the mess that made me fall out with him in the first place, he said he had continued to attack me because "my apology was insincere", once again, as if that mattered. I wasn't making him make the damn banner, that's all that he should've cared about.

But nope. He's the Dogfight Human Rights police. Good for him. I'm a little glad I "lost" that argument. The fact that he thought I wanted to win is a victory for me. Like I told him countless times, "I don't really care. Nothing anyone says changes anything for me."

Hahahahahahaha,,,,,,,,, . This is still going on. Wow, wait till he finds on the internet where I posted that I'm a vibrator repair man.
Just checking in.
Oh, Wig. That was me in the Santa suit hee hee. Muck, the next day I had the bunny suit on and only the bunny suit hee hee. LMAO
Been busy fellas. Studying for tests and contemplating college courses.
Just gonna keep on being my goofy simple self...

Ghost post

Dent!!!! Get your big goofy simple self back here....you've been sorely missed mate.... and bring those big floppy fluffy ears with ya
Besides my vibrator is busted, think it overheated!!

Lol Muck.
Hint: check the batteries first.
If your in the tub, you blew the GFI outlet.
Those aren't bunny ears there grab holds .
I'm simple simple simple

Mac wrote: Sorry. I just got into a heated debate with Whippy, and apparently was out of my league.

I tried to stoop to his level and failed. He seems obsessed with legalities. I was trying desperately to keep it simple, with questions suchas "Why the hell did you break into Star Chamber anyway?" His answer would prattle on about how actually, he didn't break in, he just had to Google a legally obtained email, and he never took screenshots or posted on it, he instructed others. I resisted the urge to type "WHO THE F*CK CARES?", but since he obviously does, I had to be content with letting him feel in control.

Although, to his credit, he actually did make me feel lost and confused, for the first time in a while.. He seems to think that just because this is nothing more than a game to me, I feel licensed to leave behind my sense of human decency? Oh well.

When I mentioned the mess that made me fall out with him in the first place, he said he had continued to attack me because "my apology was insincere", once again, as if that mattered. I wasn't making him make the damn banner, that's all that he should've cared about.

But nope. He's the Dogfight Human Rights police. Good for him. I'm a little glad I "lost" that argument. The fact that he thought I wanted to win is a victory for me. Like I told him countless times, "I don't really care. Nothing anyone says changes anything for me."

He's a study in delusion, rationalization and projection, I'll give him that. His circular anti-logic is mind numbing. A friend just informed me that he's now proposing to post "the facts" on some outside site. Words like "fact, "truth" and "ethics" are about as meaningful to this oddball as quantum theory is to a dog.

Oh well, it'll all be sorted out in court when he sues us for purposely hurling our name, email, phone and photo data at his "Personal Information I Can Use to Damage People I Don't Like" file. Sounds open and shut.

KA5EY wrote: Well..
ahem...

I have to admit that I never really felt that I quite fit in around here.
Now after reading a few of the last posts I feel the need to come clean myself......

I am Santa Clause
and the Easter Bunny
I have been for the last 10 years. Throw in a couple stints as the tooth fairy too.

I would like to thank you, I really feel I fit in with you guys right in now, needed almost, right at home...

Well this explains the bright red light out in front of you plane and why you go hopping across the sky. All this time I thought it was Lag. I hope you notices how good I been and give me this.

Since I feel it's relevant can I have permission to use said picture on the website? As soon as this and one last approval are in I will post the site

Con grats on MORAFing Ghost!
Well done my friend.

......whoever has more posts than 'thank you's should consider this.......

Whiplash wrote: Since I feel it's relevant can I have permission to use said picture on the website? As soon as this and one last approval are in I will post the site

Which "said picture"? The one of me on Santa's lap? Seriously...don't you get tired of you? If it were a pic of me in nothing but fishnets and a gay pride flag table dancing at The Cock with Ricky Martin on one arm and George Michael on the other it would still be none of your fucking business and would be exempt from your homophobic speculation. That's what's relevant!

Listen, gang, this is who we're dealing with and this is precisely why I bothered to alert you recently. He has his sick reasons, he took his shot, he and his wife betrayed my trust, they raped some privacy, busted a group of gossipy friends snarking privately about people they don't like and got a few of those people offended over what they already knew. Nice shot. But he refuses to move on. I'm bored with the rationalizing screed, "You left the door open so it's your fault that I let myself in and robbed you." What's under discussion now is the fact that he is still gathering personal information about Dogfight players with the purpose of harassing them.

If I were gay I would like to think I'd be proud to be gay, and I'm insulted by the suggestion that "gay" is somehow a condemnation with which he thinks he can slander someone. It's a razor sharp slippery slope; If sexual orientation is fair game for harassment so must be gender and race and religion. If someone thinks he has a right to prowl people's online presences and collect their data because he doesn't happen to like or trust them, he isn't just unscrupulous or homophobic, he's a thug.

Clayton, know how many times I've even surfed across your squad's thread? Ever? Guess. Dogfight would be such a much more pleasant place if you'd grow up, chill out and play the game instead of trying to play us.

But knock yourself out. Build your website, launch your lawsuit, erect a wig-hate totem pole in your backyard if that's what gets you off. It's still just a video game app and this is still just a forum of friends and acquaintances trying to have a little harmless fun and you're still a petty wannabe game clan pimp seething with resentment over who knows what. If I ever identified my self-worth with Dogfight as deeply as you do I'd shoot myself. You've already learned, or should have, that in these situations people are always smart enough to eventually figure out who's trying to sell them a bucket of bullshit marked "truth". While you're busy plotting and scheming and unethically data-mining people I'll keep scratching my head over a grown man with so much childish aggression and nothing better to do.

calling all MOMs....I believe Tail Guner could use some assistance right now, Vimy, Allied side...

First off I don't care if you are or you are not gay...or anyone is for that matter (we have one in our squad), none of my business. I only keep the information, unverified of course, to counter act the repeated nonsense thrown my way or at my squadron and if it isn't real so be it.

Seems this episode here started by Cricket impersonating War Eagle after in some way obtaining the address of our Hip Chat.
....and that is pretty much it with a few letters missing ...maybe it was a lucky guess

Ironic since what you accuse me of is what you actually did by breaking into our room and impersonating a member of our squad which appears to prove you knew what you were doing and were looking into stealing data. I didn't do any of the things you are doing now and your site was public. You can also see that the website it protected and encrypted since it a https address. Honestly I don't care, infiltrate everything I have I have no secrets even the fact I am a Maritza Mendez fan or that you want to use my real name without permission.

The request for permission to use your photo is so people who are interested in seeing both sides in fact can. I will have my say which is only fair and I am putting on an external website since 1 I don't feel anyone who is actually sick and tired of all of this needs to see any more. The other reason is I feel much of the content is disturbing on some level and people shouldn't be surprised by what they encounter. You lie over and over and I can easily show it with the picture or not since everything I've ever had was from that same google group and I think there are a lot more offended than you thought.

Oh and I do hope they are smart enough to see the bs and see the truth and I have been told by many they can and since I have proof...the transcripts and information that you or another mom posted... I don't intend on making much commentary to sway, just the data and people can decide for themselves. So was that a yes on the photo then so we can let people see the facts?

A quick word before this goes down, and you feel vindicated before the dozen people who give a crap:

"Offended" and "disturbed" are the words of lunatic crybaby uber-liberals who can't accept other people's standards of humor or entertainment. I find some things disturbing, yes. They may cause me to judge a person, even. But I will never treat them less, or denounce them in public. Whether people find content "disturbing" is completely irrelevant to your apparent deluded vendetta.

Or, in the spirit of a true Mean Old Man: "Get the hell off our lawn!"

Mac wrote: A quick word before this goes down, and you feel vindicated before the dozen people who give a crap:

"Offended" and "disturbed" are the words of lunatic crybaby uber-liberals who can't accept other people's standards of humor or entertainment. I find some things disturbing, yes. They may cause me to judge a person, even. But I will never treat them less, or denounce them in public. Whether people find content "disturbing" is completely irrelevant to your apparent deluded vendetta.

Or, in the spirit of a true Mean Old Man: "Get the hell off our lawn!"

Ill pm it to you and you tell me k

Wigbomb wrote:

Whiplash wrote: Since I feel it's relevant can I have permission to use said picture on the website? As soon as this and one last approval are in I will post the site

Which "said picture"? The one of me on Santa's lap? Seriously...don't you get tired of you? If it were a pic of me in nothing but fishnets and a gay pride flag table dancing at The Cock with Ricky Martin on one arm and George Michael on the other it would still be none of your fucking business and would be exempt from your homophobic speculation. That's what's relevant!

Listen, gang, this is who we're dealing with and this is precisely why I bothered to alert you recently. He has his sick reasons, he took his shot, he and his wife betrayed my trust, they raped some privacy, busted a group of gossipy friends snarking privately about people they don't like and got a few of those people offended over what they already knew. Nice shot. But he refuses to move on. I'm bored with the rationalizing screed, "You left the door open so it's your fault that I let myself in and robbed you." What's under discussion now is the fact that he is still gathering personal information about Dogfight players with the purpose of harassing them.

If I were gay I would like to think I'd be proud to be gay, and I'm insulted by the suggestion that "gay" is somehow a condemnation with which he thinks he can slander someone. It's a razor sharp slippery slope; If sexual orientation is fair game for harassment so must be gender and race and religion. If someone thinks he has a right to prowl people's online presences and collect their data because he doesn't happen to like or trust them, he isn't just unscrupulous or homophobic, he's a thug.

Clayton, know how many times I've even surfed across your squad's thread? Ever? Guess. Dogfight would be such a much more pleasant place if you'd grow up, chill out and play the game instead of trying to play us.

But knock yourself out. Build your website, launch your lawsuit, erect a wig-hate totem pole in your backyard if that's what gets you off. It's still just a video game app and this is still just a forum of friends and acquaintances trying to have a little harmless fun and you're still a petty wannabe game clan pimp seething with resentment over who knows what. If I ever identified my self-worth with Dogfight as deeply as you do I'd shoot myself. You've already learned, or should have, that in these situations people are always smart enough to eventually figure out who's trying to sell them a bucket of bullshit marked "truth". While you're busy plotting and scheming and unethically data-mining people I'll keep scratching my head over a grown man with so much childish aggression and nothing better to do.

Beautiful!

Ok, so I have sat and tried to write something about, this.......(cant even find a word for it)...... Totaly unbelievable what level a person would go to. I mean the motivation it took to keep pushing forward, never hearing a voice of reason saying "this is wrong on so many levels", then to sit back and act as if your some kind of "VIDEO GAME SUPER HERO"......?....... Again I am at a loss, for how to attach a word to this kind of personality Disorder/Delusion.

Really is just disgusting.... I have even felt sorry for the dude, I mean..... Come on really? Your so focused on harming others, you can't even see the damage your doing to yourself.... Just shameful....

Whiplash wrote: First off I don't care if you are or you are not gay...or anyone is for that matter (we have one in our squad), none of my business. I only keep the information, unverified of course, to counter act the repeated nonsense thrown my way or at my squadron and if it isn't real so be it.

Seems this episode here started by Cricket impersonating War Eagle after in some way obtaining the address of our Hip Chat.
.

https://devilsdragons.hipchat.com/invite/161633/f8310f9f3ad5...d914034b309

...and that is pretty much it with a few letters missing ...maybe it was a lucky guess

Ironic since what you accuse me of is what you actually did by breaking into our room and impersonating a member of our squad which appears to prove you knew what you were doing and were looking into stealing data. I didn't do any of the things you are doing now and your site was public. You can also see that the website it protected and encrypted since it a https address. Honestly I don't care, infiltrate everything I have I have no secrets even the fact I am a Maritza Mendez fan or that you want to use my real name without permission.

The request for permission to use your photo is so people who are interested in seeing both sides in fact can. I will have my say which is only fair and I am putting on an external website since 1 I don't feel anyone who is actually sick and tired of all of this needs to see any more. The other reason is I feel much of the content is disturbing on some level and people shouldn't be surprised by what they encounter. You lie over and over and I can easily show it with the picture or not since everything I've ever had was from that same google group and I think there are a lot more offended than you thought.

Oh and I do hope they are smart enough to see the bs and see the truth and I have been told by many they can and since I have proof...the transcripts and information that you or another mom posted... I don't intend on making much commentary to sway, just the data and people can decide for themselves. So was that a yes on the photo then so we can let people see the facts?

Warning: Spoiler!

P.S. Really this is that bad?? Wow.

"...we have one in our squad." Classic.

So I'm correct, your purpose in posting a photo of me with a friend who plays Santa for kids would be to vindicate your homophobia on the assumption that people who saw the photo would also think I was "gay looking" whatever that means. And that would clear you of your bigotry, and your privacy invasion in snagging the photo from my Facebook profile, and somehow establish your general rightness. Yes?

Unbelievable.

Clayton, I've never called you Clayton before despite your having personally given me your name two years ago but here in M.O.M we all call each other by our first names. Lemme guess; that's gay. What we don't do is drill around in personal non-Dogfight info until we dredge up something we think we can use to elevate ourselves by publicly smearing someone else. You calling Cricket by his last name. You using my email address to shove your nose into my Facebook profile, my Google + account, the Star Chamber Google Group, my poetry site. You broadcasting access to our emails to people you knew would be offended. Your spurious screeds about moderator abuse. Lies upon lies until you clearly are out of touch with reality. You've admitted that I've never done anything to earn your resentment. So why not just do us all a favor and fuck off? What do you get out of this absurdity? Are you, is anyone, really this small minded? This dense?

What you tried to do to us you did months ago. But now you rationalize it as somehow retaliatory for what you think I've done days ago. Which I didn't do. I wouldn't. I don't care enough about you. Like, as in, at all. But you were getting even with me for (not) having infiltrated your chat room last week by infiltrating my Facebook and Google and poetry and email and who knows what else...in May. Y'know, the May that happened five months before what you say you're now retaliating for. Sure, that makes sense.

If you have an issue with Cricket take it up with Cricket. Chat him down if you can or shoot down his tiny virtual plane if you can or write a strong letter to his congressman. Don't slither around in his online presence like a craven worm or, yes, he's liable to avail himself of access to yours. Deal with it like a grownup, not like a vindictive child who can't bear to not get his own way or the last word.

This isn't about what you think you have on me. It's about how you got what you think you have, how you think you need to have something on someone in the first place and why you think it and what that says about you, and about how you lack the common ethics to grasp that your actions are unacceptable no matter how much you rant otherwise.

No, you may not publish the photo you stole from my Facebook album. Every other person in Dogfight is welcome to write and request a copy of it from me, but you'll have to stick with Maritza. (Posting nude pics of bloated porn actors to what you thought was a young person. And a sensitive young person we learn is suffering from depression. You should be ashamed.)

I thought I'd seen as much demented behavior out of you as was possible, but you've managed to lower your own bar.

Whiplash wrote:

Mac wrote: A quick word before this goes down, and you feel vindicated before the dozen people who give a crap:

"Offended" and "disturbed" are the words of lunatic crybaby uber-liberals who can't accept other people's standards of humor or entertainment. I find some things disturbing, yes. They may cause me to judge a person, even. But I will never treat them less, or denounce them in public. Whether people find content "disturbing" is completely irrelevant to your apparent deluded vendetta.

Or, in the spirit of a true Mean Old Man: "Get the hell off our lawn!"

Ill pm it to you and you tell me k

We're not still talking about the gay photo of me gaily being all gay with gay Santa, are we? LOL!

Nobody had anything to do with "breaking in" to your chat other than me. In fact, I didn't even break in. I probably just hit the 'Log in' button.

I did not enter to gather information for Wig, or M.O.M. I wanted to see firsthand just how delusional you are after a year of having to deal with your harassment and threats of banning, tasking, or physical harm. YOU started this episode when you brought up M.O.M and The Misfits, threats of a lawsuit, an admission to having collected names, phone numbers, and e-mails of other players followed by a maniacal laugh, and threats of exposing Wig for being a gay animal raper, based solely on a picture of him with Santa and a funny poem he wrote. What, was I not supposed to tell these guys what you were saying?

Just what is it you plan on doing with all these names and numbers? I'm scared you might contact people I know and tell them I can't tie my shoes or I don't know how to read a map.

Now what did I miss, what did I miss?

Wow, Rick , if I ever get into trouble with the law ,will you speak on my behalf? I mean Wow.