Davy said: Does it have coconuts or did the tree drop them. Was it ok for the coconut tree to drop its coconuts. Should the coconut tree be labeled as a dropper.





Davy, you have been reading palms too long, you will just go nuts.
Don't let yourself be distracted by the coconut tree.
Broaden your gaze. Enjoy the grand vista
You need to refocus your life, see the bigger picture.
There is so much more to enjoy if you could only see it.

There will always be some nuts that drop, and some nuts that don't drop.
Drop this obsession you have on the state of other peoples nuts.
Only then will you see the real meaning of the game, and become the dogfighter you were meant to be

[LB] Pedrinho wrote:

[*M]Comet wrote: Six pages of this shit and you figure you've done the community a favor? How do you figure that?

Nothing's changed, you've only expressed an opinion over and over again. McFate has his, you have yours. Just because you made the thread doesn't mean you can tell anyone to not post. Get off here if you don't like it, according to you. Almost seems like get outta my yard syndrome when your buddy doesn't build the Lego skyscraper the way you want.

This is a case the of old guard vs the new guard. This is about somebody thinking everyone should play the same way. To hell with different cultures, backgrounds, language barriers and operating platforms. Some things are cheap in your eyes, great! Thanks for letting us know! Not everyone agrees with you, which is ok as you say! We all deal with it!

Wow, what an absolute waste! The only thing that has changed for me is this: D93 Big Gunzzz has an opinion of how the game should be played. God forbid you don't agree, he'll make a list!

And furthermore; you made a comment about how 20 pilots wore your name for a few days when you made MORAF... I saw you on world chat trying to talk players into doing it! That's not people respecting you; that's you being big headed and conceited! Pretty cheesy! Did you have a parade too?

This thread is big headed and conceited. I think I told you awhile back to quit pushing crap down everyone's throat when you decided to call out one of the greatest players in the game for something you didn't like.

I like how you play. I agree with a lot of what you say. But you're not the godammed saviour of dogfight here! So just play the thing! Make a list! Don't make a list! Fly upside down! Get everyone to call themselves D93 big Gunzzz! I don't care what you do!

Thats it for me. I've had quite enough garbage for one day! Thanks for doing us a favor!

AMEN!

There is something about that blue writing that calms me. It must be some subliminal brain thingy.

Davy, Hulk and Gannnet,

You turned this brazilian nuts on a LAUGHING BRAZILIAN NUT! My wife is asking me why am I laughing so hard and spilling coffee all over my shirt...



And Comet, you wrote the post of the week!

[NLR] McFate wrote: I'm out Gunzz.

If you want to duck out on the strawman fallacy instead of responding to my last post in a reasoned way, that's the end of reason. Do what you want.


(Sorry if it was my use of the word "bitch" as a verb that got to you. It really was over the top.)

McFate

I think that I have been doing more than my fair share of responding to your posts.

As for you comments, you yourself know that it was over the top, but still chose to do so. I am not saying that I would invite you over my house or that you would come, but if you were here and spoke to me in this manner I would toss you right out as I am sure you would do the same. It's not much different here. I invite all to speak up as they wish, but when one doesn't show respect that person is not welcomed. I am sure you can agree with this. And this has nothing to do with us being in a disagreement.

Look 20 years ago I wouldn't have cared one bit about any of this. In fact I would have probably been one of these cheap players too. But that was 20 years ago. I am a different person now. Morals and unfortunately hardships in life did it to me. How this doesn't affect others as well is beyond me. With maybe the exception of the younger generation playing this game, but even then I have come across many players with more morals than me.

It seems like you can not comprehend that someone is voicing their opinion (you should read Mean's post). When some one voices their opinion about something cheap players don't like, the cheap players resort to words such as bi**h, whine, cry, etc. What else can you say to the rest of us, "stop playing fair".

If by me using the word cheap was over the top too, nahhh I don't apoligize because it is cheap. I don't see anything wrong with that.
.

Well D93 Big Gunzzz,

AS U know, or if u haven't figured things out of now, I consider my self More then just a Dogfight pilot ? What I do on Dogfight.. I do in real life. Not lying either. Maybe not in a practical way... but in a way of petition.

I consider my self as being a self proclaimed anything but the bad things in life. Let me show u my skills in what I'm saying. For instance, The power of paying attention is putting me beyond my limits in life right now. & I give u an illustration of my gift/secret/hidden skills :

1. I made a post called, "blah, blah, blah, blah!!!".

2. Seemingly that you, by viewing your post, lke to blah, blah, blah. Surprisingly you left no blah, blah, blah on my blah, blah, blah post of thread ? Can you please explain to me this ? On why u didn't leave no blah, blah, blah to my blah, blah, blah post, seemingly that u lke to blah, blah, blah, ?

3. Correct me if I'm wrong my friend on whom I honored & made a thread post for those that honored u as well by we/ us all putting D93 Big Gunzzz edited in our names for your Moraf Congratulation party ? BUT DID YOU MAKE THIS THREAD IN RETALIATION TO MY THREAD, " NO SUCH THING ! FAT MOUTHS & A BUNCH OF LYER'S ! " ??

4. If not, then what do you think of my post/thread ? I say that because it seems it would have been the perfect thread for you to bomb post on seemingly it covers topics of your "cheap players" list ?

5. Am I a cheap player ? Will I be put on this list ? Do you accept restitution funds if I am ?

Gunzzz, this is HERO!C's speaking & not that other fella ? Answer me please, u'r kdr depends on it !?

157 posts, still no end in sight. What a waste of energy. Will anything be resolved? I doubt it...

[*M]Comet wrote: Six pages of this shit and you figure you've done the community a favor? How do you figure that?

Nothing's changed, you've only expressed an opinion over and over again. McFate has his, you have yours. Just because you made the thread doesn't mean you can tell anyone to not post. Get off here if you don't like it, according to you. Almost seems like get outta my yard syndrome when your buddy doesn't build the Lego skyscraper the way you want.

This is a case the of old guard vs the new guard. This is about somebody thinking everyone should play the same way. To hell with different cultures, backgrounds, language barriers and operating platforms. Some things are cheap in your eyes, great! Thanks for letting us know! Not everyone agrees with you, which is ok as you say! We all deal with it!

Wow, what an absolute waste! The only thing that has changed for me is this: D93 Big Gunzzz has an opinion of how the game should be played. God forbid you don't agree, he'll make a list!

And furthermore; you made a comment about how 20 pilots wore your name for a few days when you made MORAF... I saw you on world chat trying to talk players into doing it! That's not people respecting you; that's you being big headed and conceited! Pretty cheesy! Did you have a parade too?

This thread is big headed and conceited. I think I told you awhile back to quit pushing crap down everyone's throat when you decided to call out one of the greatest players in the game for something you didn't like.

I like how you play. I agree with a lot of what you say. But you're not the godammed saviour of dogfight here! So just play the thing! Make a list! Don't make a list! Fly upside down! Get everyone to call themselves D93 big Gunzzz! I don't care what you do!

Thats it for me. I've had quite enough garbage for one day! Thanks for doing us a favor!

Comet
(You have to read this..lol...you heard that b4...Hulk, in blue just for you)

I can't disagree with you about 6 pages sh*t. There really was no need for this thread to reach more than 3 pages tops. Sorry that some couldn't hold it in, including myself, but when you gotta go, you gotta go.

All are welcome here even if we don't see eye to eye. I never told anyone to leave because I am in a disagreement with them. When someone comes and decides to be a tuff guy and show no respect of course they are not welcome (look that the post where I rely to McFate above). Legos are not my thing.

I am dealing with it just fine thank you. I have brought up many things that many players are probably scared to say for themselves. I am speaking on behalf of the community that are sick of these cheap players. I am not a freaking savior. I am just a person brave enough to speak up.


I know you for one deal with it by continuing to play and handle it as you wish. You have been here probably long enough that it's grown on you. Remember that I have only been here 4 months and maybe have not been through the arguements that you and some others have so cut me some slack.

Big headed, conceited, cheesy, etc. that 20 players carried my name?

You don't know what you are talking about so you to should really shut up!
(btw...I will tell myself to shut up too because there is way too much talking going on here).

If you must know how that came about I will share that with you. You all know Sharp from wc? Did you know that she is only 13 years old? Did anyone ever notice how wrong some of the names that she chooses are for a 13 years girl? Ohhh wait, who am I to judge right?

Well she and I are friendly with eachother. We often will have normal conversations that are not dogfight related. Also has anyone ever bother to actually fly with her? To maybe train her a bit? Well I have. Point with that is that we are df friends. We even kid around sometimes where I call her my df daughter.

The night of me becoming moraf she and I were kidding about different names that she can use. A few others got in on the action too. I can't say who came up with the idea but ultimately we came up with D93 Sharp Gunzzz. She was the first to do this. And yes I begged the heck out of her to do it in a joking manner that we all understood. I guess you had to be there.

From there it started spreading. A few others decided to change there names as well. And yes once again it took some begging on my part in a joking fashion that everyone understood and some others did it on their own. That was one of the best times I had in df. We all entered a game that way and it was hysterical for all. Even for the 2 players that were there and said "wtf is going on with the gunzzz names". Man did that make us laugh even more. So maybe that is where I had done some good in this df community. Shared some laughs.

It continued the next day. Same way going about it. Some jokingly begging and some did it completely on their own. If fact some wanted and even asked me if it was ok that they change their names too. I heard so many stories from all that changed their names that made me laugh so much. It brought out some good times, thank you!

It went over so well that that one player brought up that we should continue to do this for all that moraf here on in. I for one will do it should that person want to make their day. It made mine special, why not make theirs too? Do you see something wrong with that?

In fact I did it for JASTA and he loved it. Ohhh another thing that I have done for the community is that I created the moraf thread for JASTA when I found out that he moraf in wc. No one that was in the game with him or that knew he moraf did this. That's just messed up. He was very grateful that I did and we even flew together that day in a game with similar names and had some fun.

I don't know if I started a trend here or not since so many have been changing their names often. I can tell you that in my 4 months here I have never seen anyone carrying another player's name to honor them or excuse me, just made their day feel special.

Have you seen some "Dog" names out there lately? Whether or not it's from what happened with me I don't know, but it sure as heck is nice. I am carrying his name proudly with mine.

Go curl up into a ball in the corner somewhere for a few minutes because if you don't feel like a dope now you should.

You come here with some smart aleck remarks and I will respond the same. It's sad that some others can't stick up for themselves.

Parade? Nahhh but I did ask some friends to be there in the game with me when I did moraf and I am so glad that I did. They made that moment that much better. Even a good df friend of mine Dognamitt was there.

So go ask around how many people did I force to wear my name you cheeseball.

Let's see how many "yes he did" responses you will get.

Look Comet. I actually like you. I value your opinions. Maybe you are having a tough day or maybe you are just sick of hearing the same old stuff over again in which I don't blame you for your comments.

Coming here and ignorantly talking trash about me, well that is why you are getting the response from me that you did.

You don't have to like me or my opinions. You don't even have to visit my thread. I never forced you to come here in the first place. You took it upon yourself to do so.

You complain about 6 pages of sh*t right? Stop coming here pooping then.

I don't force anyone to do anything here period. What do I have to say to make some of you understand that. Maybe I should force that on you that can't understand it. Geez!!!
.

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:

[*M]Comet wrote: Six pages of this shit and you figure you've done the community a favor? How do you figure that?

Nothing's changed, you've only expressed an opinion over and over again. McFate has his, you have yours. Just because you made the thread doesn't mean you can tell anyone to not post. Get off here if you don't like it, according to you. Almost seems like get outta my yard syndrome when your buddy doesn't build the Lego skyscraper the way you want.

This is a case the of old guard vs the new guard. This is about somebody thinking everyone should play the same way. To hell with different cultures, backgrounds, language barriers and operating platforms. Some things are cheap in your eyes, great! Thanks for letting us know! Not everyone agrees with you, which is ok as you say! We all deal with it!

Wow, what an absolute waste! The only thing that has changed for me is this: D93 Big Gunzzz has an opinion of how the game should be played. God forbid you don't agree, he'll make a list!

And furthermore; you made a comment about how 20 pilots wore your name for a few days when you made MORAF... I saw you on world chat trying to talk players into doing it! That's not people respecting you; that's you being big headed and conceited! Pretty cheesy! Did you have a parade too?

This thread is big headed and conceited. I think I told you awhile back to quit pushing crap down everyone's throat when you decided to call out one of the greatest players in the game for something you didn't like.

I like how you play. I agree with a lot of what you say. But you're not the godammed saviour of dogfight here! So just play the thing! Make a list! Don't make a list! Fly upside down! Get everyone to call themselves D93 big Gunzzz! I don't care what you do!

Thats it for me. I've had quite enough garbage for one day! Thanks for doing us a favor!

Comet
(You have to read this..lol...you heard that b4...Hulk, in blue just for you)

I can't disagree with you about 6 pages sh*t. There really was no need for this thread to reach more than 3 pages tops. Sorry that some couldn't hold it in, including myself, but when you gotta go, you gotta go.

All are welcome here even if we don't see eye to eye. I never told anyone to leave because I am in a disagreement with them. When someone comes and decides to be a tuff guy and show no respect of course they are not welcome (look that the post where I rely to McFate above). Legos are not my thing.

I am dealing with it just fine thank you. I have brought up many things that many players are probably scared to say for themselves. I am speaking on behalf of the community that are sick of these cheap players. I am not a freaking savior. I am just a person brave enough to speak up.


I know you for one deal with it by continuing to play and handle it as you wish. You have been here probably long enough that it's grown on you. Remember that I have only been here 4 months and maybe have not been through the arguements that you and some others have so cut me some slack.

Big headed, conceited, cheesy, etc. that 20 players carried my name?

You don't know what you are talking about so you to should really shut up!
(btw...I will tell myself to shut up too because there is way too much talking going on here).

If you must know how that came about I will share that with you. You all know Sharp from wc? Did you know that she is only 13 years old? Did anyone ever notice how wrong some of the names that she chooses are for a 13 years girl? Ohhh wait, who am I to judge right?

Well she and I are friendly with eachother. We often will have normal conversations that are not dogfight related. Also has anyone ever bother to actually fly with her? To maybe train her a bit? Well I have. Point with that is that we are df friends. We even kid around sometimes where I call her my df daughter.

The night of me becoming moraf she and I were kidding about different names that she can use. A few others got in on the action too. I can't say who came up with the idea but ultimately we came up with D93 Sharp Gunzzz. She was the first to do this. And yes I begged the heck out of her to do it in a joking manner that we all understood. I guess you had to be there.

From there it started spreading. A few others decided to change there names as well. And yes once again it took some begging on my part in a joking fashion that everyone understood and some others did it on their own. That was one of the best times I had in df. We all entered a game that way and it was hysterical for all. Even for the 2 players that were there and said "wtf is going on with the gunzzz names". Man did that make us laugh even more. So maybe that is where I had done some good in this df community. Shared some laughs.

It continued the next day. Same way going about it. Some jokingly begging and some did it completely on their own. If fact some wanted and even asked me if it was ok that they change their names too. I heard so many stories from all that changed their names that made me laugh so much. It brought out some good times, thank you!

It went over so well that that one player brought up that we should continue to do this for all that moraf here on in. I for one will do it should that person want to make their day. It made mine special, why not make theirs too? Do you see something wrong with that?

In fact I did it for JASTA and he loved it. Ohhh another thing that I have done for the community is that I created the moraf thread for JASTA when I found out that he moraf in wc. No one that was in the game with him or that knew he moraf did this. That's just messed up. He was very grateful that I did and we even flew together that day in a game with similar names and had some fun.

I don't know if I started a trend here or not since so many have been changing their names often. I can tell you that in my 4 months here I have never seen anyone carrying another player's name to honor them or excuse me, just made their day feel special.

Have you seen some "Dog" names out there lately? Whether or not it's from what happened with me I don't know, but it sure as heck is nice. I am carrying his name proudly with mine.

Go curl up into a ball in the corner somewhere for a few minutes because if you don't feel like a dope now you should.

You come here with some smart aleck remarks and I will respond the same. It's sad that some others can't stick up for themselves.

Parade? Nahhh but I did ask some friends to be there in the game with me when I did moraf and I am so glad that I did. They made that moment that much better. Even a good df friend of mine Dognamitt was there.

So go ask around how many people did I force to wear my name you cheeseball.

Let's see how many "yes he did" responses you will get.

Look Comet. I actually like you. I value your opinions. Maybe you are having a tough day or maybe you are just sick of hearing the same old stuff over again in which I don't blame you for your comments.

Coming here and ignorantly talking trash about me, well that is why you are getting the response from me that you did.

You don't have to like me or my opinions. You don't even have to visit my thread. I never forced you to come here in the first place. You took it upon yourself to do so.

You complain about 6 pages of sh*t right? Stop coming here pooping then.

I don't force anyone to do anything here period. What do I have to say to make some of you understand that. Maybe I should force that on you that can't understand it. Geez!!!
.

First of all, Mr. Original, once again it was not you that came up with the idea of adding ones name to theirs when troubles come up. Sorry to burst your bubble...Skyfoxx comes to mind, a Misfit who had some cancer issues. Still not out of the woods...We all put his name in ours somewhere. It was awesome.

Look back at all the MORAF threads. We all have done it for each other. There's nothing here that hasn't been done. I know you think you're Mr. Innovation here but you're not the only guy that's done that.

Speaking for others...you know, if they have voices and they want to speak they will! You act like you've been appointed to speak for the weak! How noble!

Look you said it, you've been here 4 months! I don't think I even posted until I had been around for 4 months. Am I more shy than you? Doubt it. Maybe I wanted a feel for things before I posted... but I was new here... You new here? Your numbers indicate you are, but many suspicions arise about second accounts...you certainly know your way round here...you think nothing of arguing with veterans like Fate and Ped...I've never ever seen anyone tell him to shut up before... but that's right, he said something that pissed you off...shut up time... I even tried to play ref a bit. That was an effort in futility...

You started this thing, were you expecting sunshine and roses? I notice that when the tone changes, you like to say shut up a lot! That suggestion of conceit...truth hurt bud? Phrases like "ooh another thing I have done for the dogfight community"... What is that if it's not big headed?

Go curl in a corner? Is that what you do when you get told? Because I'm laughing my ass off at your reaction! I'm not ever going to tell you to shut up or call you a cheeseball... You go right ahead though, let it all out.

I'm done here! Cya around crusader of all that's cheap in the game...

111th| Heroicz wrote: Well D93 Big Gunzzz,

AS U know, or if u haven't figured things out of now, I consider my self More then just a Dogfight pilot ? What I do on Dogfight.. I do in real life. Not lying either. Maybe not in a practical why... but in a way of petition.

I consider my self as being a self proclaimed anything but the bad things in life. Let me show u my skills in what I'm saying. For instance, The power of paying attention is putting me beyond my limits in life right now. & I give u an illustration of my gift/secret/hidden skills :

1. I made a post called, "blah, blah, blah, blah!!!".

2. Seemingly that you, by viewing your post, lke to blah, blah, blah. Surprisingly you left no blah, blah, blah on my blah, blah, blah post of thread ? Can you please explain to me this ? On why u didn't leave no blah, blah, blah to my blah, blah, blah post, seemingly that u lke to blah, blah, blah, ?

3. Correct me if I'm wrong my friend on whom I honored & made a thread post for those that honored u as well by we/ us all putting D93 Big Gunzzz edited in our names for your Moraf Congratulation party ? BUT DID YOU MAKE THIS THREAD IN RETALIATION TO MY THREAD, " NO SUCH THING ! FAT MOUTHS & A BUNCH OF LYER'S ! " ??

4. If not, then what do you think of my post/thread ? I say that because it seems it would have been the perfect thread for you to bomb post on seemingly it covers topics of your "cheap players" list ?

5. Am I a cheap player ? Will I be put on this list ? Do you accept restitution funds if I am ?

Gunzzz, this is HERO!C's speaking & not that other fella ? Answer me please, u'r kdr depends on it !?

O.k.. D93 Big Gunzzz,

When you get done answering u'r/ the hate mail.. can you please give me a reply to my comment right above Hulks & Comets I think ? Just scroll up a few & u should see that I have posted a comment that is warranted an answer, oh, how silly of me, you can just read this comment of post cuz it has my above quotation attached.. my bad broddie ?

111th| Heroicz wrote: Well D93 Big Gunzzz,

AS U know, or if u haven't figured things out of now, I consider my self More then just a Dogfight pilot ? What I do on Dogfight.. I do in real life. Not lying either. Maybe not in a practical why... but in a way of petition.

I consider my self as being a self proclaimed anything but the bad things in life. Let me show u my skills in what I'm saying. For instance, The power of paying attention is putting me beyond my limits in life right now. & I give u an illustration of my gift/secret/hidden skills :

1. I made a post called, "blah, blah, blah, blah!!!".

2. Seemingly that you, by viewing your post, lke to blah, blah, blah. Surprisingly you left no blah, blah, blah on my blah, blah, blah post of thread ? Can you please explain to me this ? On why u didn't leave no blah, blah, blah to my blah, blah, blah post, seemingly that u lke to blah, blah, blah, ?

3. Correct me if I'm wrong my friend on whom I honored & made a thread post for those that honored u as well by we/ us all putting D93 Big Gunzzz edited in our names for your Moraf Congratulation party ? BUT DID YOU MAKE THIS THREAD IN RETALIATION TO MY THREAD, " NO SUCH THING ! FAT MOUTHS & A BUNCH OF LYER'S ! " ??

4. If not, then what do you think of my post/thread ? I say that because it seems it would have been the perfect thread for you to bomb post on seemingly it covers topics of your "cheap players" list ?

5. Am I a cheap player ? Will I be put on this list ? Do you accept restitution funds if I am ?

Gunzzz, this is HERO!C's speaking & not that other fella ? Answer me please, u'r kdr depends on it !?

Hero

I will be completely honest with you and you know me a bit to hopefully take my word for it.

I don't mind blah blah blahing. I do however hate drama. Silly as it sounds considering how my thread is going. In fact I dislike drama so much that when I am exposed to it I simply walk away from it. Being that this thread is mine I feel obligated to respond in this soap opera.

I remember coming home late one night and seeing your thread. When I looked into it, it looked like a drama scene. I recall not being in any mood whatsoever to read all that was posted that night, whether I was tired, not feeling well, or what ever it was at that moment that prevented me from reading it all including your original post.

The next day I was doing things around the house where I was randomly popping in and out of DF, but would have never had enough time to dedicate to your thread. I can't tell you every detail as to what has happened from that time frame until this very moment. During this time life and then this (my) thread got in the way. I have only played a handful, at most, of games since posting this thread.

I have to admit that your thread got thrown in the back burner. Being that this thread was created by you, you deserved from me to come visit and post something as well.

I didn't and I am completely wrong for not doing so. I am sincerely very sorry!
You went out of your way for me and deserved a lot more from me. I respect you enough that if you sat on my runway tank spawn killing me over and over again it would not bother me one bit (you better not) and not just because I am guilty of not visiting your thread, but because you have earned that respect from me.

You have been and are a good friend here, thank you!

Let me eat my dinner and then when I am finished I will visit and read all in your thread and respond. Not even because I owe you that much, but because I want to.

I will not do anything else until I have done so. That you did earn.

Sorry my friend
Gunzzz

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:

111th| Heroicz wrote: Well D93 Big Gunzzz,

AS U know, or if u haven't figured things out of now, I consider my self More then just a Dogfight pilot ? What I do on Dogfight.. I do in real life. Not lying either. Maybe not in a practical why... but in a way of petition.

I consider my self as being a self proclaimed anything but the bad things in life. Let me show u my skills in what I'm saying. For instance, The power of paying attention is putting me beyond my limits in life right now. & I give u an illustration of my gift/secret/hidden skills :

1. I made a post called, "blah, blah, blah, blah!!!".

2. Seemingly that you, by viewing your post, lke to blah, blah, blah. Surprisingly you left no blah, blah, blah on my blah, blah, blah post of thread ? Can you please explain to me this ? On why u didn't leave no blah, blah, blah to my blah, blah, blah post, seemingly that u lke to blah, blah, blah, ?

3. Correct me if I'm wrong my friend on whom I honored & made a thread post for those that honored u as well by we/ us all putting D93 Big Gunzzz edited in our names for your Moraf Congratulation party ? BUT DID YOU MAKE THIS THREAD IN RETALIATION TO MY THREAD, " NO SUCH THING ! FAT MOUTHS & A BUNCH OF LYER'S ! " ??

4. If not, then what do you think of my post/thread ? I say that because it seems it would have been the perfect thread for you to bomb post on seemingly it covers topics of your "cheap players" list ?

5. Am I a cheap player ? Will I be put on this list ? Do you accept restitution funds if I am ?

Gunzzz, this is HERO!C's speaking & not that other fella ? Answer me please, u'r kdr depends on it !?

Hero

I will be completely honest with you and you know me a bit to hopefully take my word for it.

I don't mind blah blah blahing. I do however hate drama. Silly as it sounds considering how my thread is going. In fact I dislike drama so much that when I am exposed to it I simply walk away from it. Being that this thread is mine I feel obligated to respond in this soap opera.

I remember coming home late one night and seeing your thread. When I looked into it, it looked like a drama scene. I recall not being in any mood whatsoever to read all that was posted that night, whether I was tired, not feeling well, or what ever it was at that moment that prevented me from reading it all including your original post.

The next day I was doing things around the house where I was randomly popping in and out of DF, but would have never had enough time to dedicate to your thread. I can't tell you every detail as to what has happened from that time frame until this very moment. During this time life and then this (my) thread got in the way. I have only played a handful, at most, of games since posting this thread.

I have to admit that your thread got thrown in the back burner. Being that this thread was created by you, you deserved from me to come visit and post something as well.

I didn't and I am completely wrong for not doing so. I am sincerely very sorry!
You went out of your way for me and deserved a lot more from me. I respect you enough that if you sat on my runway tank spawn killing me over and over again it would not bother me one bit (you better not) and not just because I am guilty of not visiting your thread, but because you have earned that respect from me.

You have been and are a good friend here, thank you!

Let me eat my dinner and then when I am finished I will visit and read all in your thread and respond. Not even because I owe you that much, but because I want to.

I will not do anything else until I have done so. That you did earn.

Sorry my friend
Gunzzz

So You Blah, blah, blah, me again D93 Big Gunzzz ? Why, what did I do to you ? I ask you did you create this Thread in retaliation to my thread post & you just gave me 4 to 5 paragraphs of inclusion only to say you will visit my Post on forum of the other stuff ? But wait, wait.. you visiting my thread post is not the primary question... which you just seemingly avoided ? Now I told u that I would show u the power of paying attention ? Not trying to put u out there but u chose to be out there by making this Thread of post for all to see & comment on.... lke I did ? but now, no need to visit my Post on forum, for I have visited yours. So Once again I will ask you if I may.. oh yea, if u haven't noticed already but yes, I have played baseball, up into The Big Leads, Not Major league although, but big lead baseball. So as much as I, lke a lot of batters hate the curve ball, I will tune in on it @ times to knock it out the park although, not always, but practice makes improvement.

Back to the question.. IS THIS POST A RETALIATION TO MY THREAD IVE RECENTLY POSTED ON FORUM ?? No need to visit my post, for u said u'r self uve already been there & u thought it were another drama base basis ?

I just want an answer.. has that become as difficult as practically writing a book, as u so surely display ? Answer please ?

This thread has morphed away from its original topic.
Please change the Subject title (in the original post) to
"you don't HAVE to read this"

Hero

No I did not create this thread in retaliation to your thread.

I am posting this right now just to put you mind at ease.

I will be posting another one for you right after this with more details.

And btw I do mean it when I call you a friend, so no, I wouldn't do anything, intentionally that is, that would upset you.

Many that do know me here already will be happy to tell you the same.

Gunzzz

Great! Now that that's all settled, let's just put this thread to bed.

Goodnight sweet thread

Hero

Before you do anything else please go back to the post from me to you above and reread it. I thought I made myself clear that I never read your thread. I peeked in it but never did read it. That is why I was apoligizing to you. After that please take your time in reading this one and read every word of it.

I hope that neither you nor I will not have to read these story book type of posts again.

Keep this in mind as we go further I do consider you a friend here. As friends do often, even as family members do, disagreeing is natural. How we treat eachother determines if a friendship will remain.

As I promised you I ate my dinner and spent more than the past hour reading every word in your thread. Forgive me if I did not retain all that was said there. Between my life, your thread, and my own it's a little overwhelming.

So as you know by now I did not post this thread in retaliation to yours. If fact as I was reading your thread I came across the post that you left for me. This is the first time that I saw it and that is why I never responded.

I really wish that I did read your thread first. I would have approached my own differently. From what I am seeing there is a lot of male testosterone flying around. Why am I not suprised. After reading everything there I can admit that I have a different perspective of things. Not on all the topics, but on some.

I remember you from when I first started playing here. Why is that? Because I thought you were one of the best players by far. I could never kill you and in fact it even came to the point where I wouldn't even try anymore. Even with that said I still thought you were a solid guy. You would always respectfully speak to me in a game and I felt honored that such a great player would talk to me. There were not many great pilots that would say anything other than hi to me and that is why I go out of my way to be nice to all especially the newbies.

I learned this game quickly because I always asked questions and received answers from all. Now I can understand why I couldn't kill you before and that is because you dropped either 1 or 2 of your bombs. I am guessing that's what is was because from your post you mention that you do drop and from what I remember about you circling the skies I thought it was amazing because the other players were unable to do the same. I sure as heck couldn't in my tier 1 with a bomb on me.

I can tell you that I dreaded coming anywhere near you. I knew it was an automatic death for me. I did however still like you as a person. This is why I am against all droppers. When I stated in my thread that it ruins the game for the others I meant it. I can handle myself now against a dropper, but what about all those that can't like I couldn't before.

If I wasn't such a competative hot head I would have quit this game a long time ago because of so much unfairness that I saw. It's not whining it's simply the truth. Much of this game is based on unfairness that it is not right. It starts right away too when you are put in a tier 1 with no experience against morafs with tier 7 and a heck of a lot of experience.

I did mentioned that I am a hot head right? So that was not going to stop me. I kept on playing and learned along the way. I know that I still have much to learn and am no where near as good as many that play.

In your thread you refer to playing the "first to destroy the enemy base wins" aka "btb" any way one wants. I read many good points from you and others that support this and that are against it. I still have to say that I am against it. I can understand the reasoning behind trying to use different tactics to win the game. I can even say that yes sometimes they are successful. I also know from experience that sometimes it makes the game even worse and last even longer. I was in a game like that were everyone eventually dropped almost everytime all because one player started it. Once in a while someone would try to sneak or carry a bomb but with no success. We were all experience players here and all knew how to intercept eachothers moves. Frankly it wasn't hard at all.

This game went on for 90 minutes and only 1 hanger from each side got bombed. At this point everyone was feed up. 6 of the 8 players left the game. Me being a hot head remained against another equally ranked player because we had it out with eachother throughout the entire game. Lol...we battled it out for another 15 minutes and then we finally made peace and gave in. We both left the game honorably and to make sure one did not back out on their word we met up in wc.

That game is a perfect example of why I feel all should hold their bombs in a bombing mission. The bombs make the playing field equal for all, or as close to equal as it can get, even the newbies. Now a days I feel guilty when I kill a newbie in a game or any much lower ranked player that is. I often will not kill them in a game because of this reason. In some games where there is a mix of newbies and high ranks I don't have much of an option so unfortunately I have to kill them all. Damn I hate doing it too.

McFate and even Zebra (in a post in the past) made valid points of having seperate servers to keep different players and type of play apart. I have to agree with that. Even though the one good thing that comes out of playing against the best when you are a noob is that you learn quickly. Well at least I did, but I could understand how many would want to quit instead.

Hero...as you can see I talk too much. I always try to fully explain myself and that is why my posts are so freaking long. I try to respect my fellow players and don't like to offend them if I can help it. I would appreciate the same too from them. It's a give and take relationship.

There are frankly some here that can give a rats rear about anyone other than themselves and it shows how they play the game. The only thing that matters to them is winning the game. I do not hold those same beliefs I am sorry. So if someone elses beliefs are different of course I will be in a disagreement with them. It does not mean that I am forcing anyone to play my way or that I will even dislike the person. It just means that I am not in favor of what they do.

This is a game. I love it when those compare this game to a real war. Guess what? If you lose a game or get killed in this game you are still alive. In a real war you life is on the line.

I saw that you state one should play how they want. To some degree I agree with that. On the other hand I can not. Dropping is the iffy topic of them all because there are sometimes where I find it justifiable.

To make a long story even longer, you have never done anything wrong to me. In fact you have gone even beyond that of what I can expect. I on the other hand did wrong you by not visiting your thread. I apoligized for it and meant it. I hope me disagreeing with you on the points of dropping will not affect our df friendship. I know it doesn't on my part and I hope it doesn't on yours as well.

Whew

That was long

Bye my friend
Gunzzz

[*M]VonHuLK wrote: Hulk still no read, just check back for pictures. Sorry Hulk still not so smart.

(in blue just for you)


Hulk very smart. He no talk when he know only trouble...lmao

Jesus, Gunz. Do you really think you are going to settle this matter here? I've only been here for about ten months, and I've seen this thread time, and time again (although, not with this many hits. So, kudos, I guess, on that)

Put this thread to bed. You aren't going to solve anything with it. Period. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. There are a lot of people in this game that don't even look at the forum, and most of those are the biggest violators of what you're trying to, I guess, solve. It's not going to happen. Learn to adapt, and for god's sake, stop getting into arguments with players that have been here for years about the "proper" way of playing the game.

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:
If you must know how that came about I will share that with you. You all know Sharp from wc? Did you know that she is only 13 years old? Did anyone ever notice how wrong some of the names that she chooses are for a 13 years girl? Ohhh wait, who am I to judge right?

"Well she and I are friendly with eachother." We often will have normal conversations that are not dogfight related. Also has anyone ever bother to actually fly with her? To maybe train her a bit? Well I have. Point with that is that we are df friends. We even kid around sometimes where I call her my df daughter.


Creepy!

Ill say it if no one else will.

[*M]Comet wrote:

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:

[*M]Comet wrote: Six pages of this shit and you figure you've done the community a favor? How do you figure that?

Nothing's changed, you've only expressed an opinion over and over again. McFate has his, you have yours. Just because you made the thread doesn't mean you can tell anyone to not post. Get off here if you don't like it, according to you. Almost seems like get outta my yard syndrome when your buddy doesn't build the Lego skyscraper the way you want.

This is a case the of old guard vs the new guard. This is about somebody thinking everyone should play the same way. To hell with different cultures, backgrounds, language barriers and operating platforms. Some things are cheap in your eyes, great! Thanks for letting us know! Not everyone agrees with you, which is ok as you say! We all deal with it!

Wow, what an absolute waste! The only thing that has changed for me is this: D93 Big Gunzzz has an opinion of how the game should be played. God forbid you don't agree, he'll make a list!

And furthermore; you made a comment about how 20 pilots wore your name for a few days when you made MORAF... I saw you on world chat trying to talk players into doing it! That's not people respecting you; that's you being big headed and conceited! Pretty cheesy! Did you have a parade too?

This thread is big headed and conceited. I think I told you awhile back to quit pushing crap down everyone's throat when you decided to call out one of the greatest players in the game for something you didn't like.

I like how you play. I agree with a lot of what you say. But you're not the godammed saviour of dogfight here! So just play the thing! Make a list! Don't make a list! Fly upside down! Get everyone to call themselves D93 big Gunzzz! I don't care what you do!

Thats it for me. I've had quite enough garbage for one day! Thanks for doing us a favor!

Comet
(You have to read this..lol...you heard that b4...Hulk, in blue just for you)

I can't disagree with you about 6 pages sh*t. There really was no need for this thread to reach more than 3 pages tops. Sorry that some couldn't hold it in, including myself, but when you gotta go, you gotta go.

All are welcome here even if we don't see eye to eye. I never told anyone to leave because I am in a disagreement with them. When someone comes and decides to be a tuff guy and show no respect of course they are not welcome (look that the post where I rely to McFate above). Legos are not my thing.

I am dealing with it just fine thank you. I have brought up many things that many players are probably scared to say for themselves. I am speaking on behalf of the community that are sick of these cheap players. I am not a freaking savior. I am just a person brave enough to speak up.


I know you for one deal with it by continuing to play and handle it as you wish. You have been here probably long enough that it's grown on you. Remember that I have only been here 4 months and maybe have not been through the arguements that you and some others have so cut me some slack.

Big headed, conceited, cheesy, etc. that 20 players carried my name?

You don't know what you are talking about so you to should really shut up!
(btw...I will tell myself to shut up too because there is way too much talking going on here).

If you must know how that came about I will share that with you. You all know Sharp from wc? Did you know that she is only 13 years old? Did anyone ever notice how wrong some of the names that she chooses are for a 13 years girl? Ohhh wait, who am I to judge right?

Well she and I are friendly with eachother. We often will have normal conversations that are not dogfight related. Also has anyone ever bother to actually fly with her? To maybe train her a bit? Well I have. Point with that is that we are df friends. We even kid around sometimes where I call her my df daughter.

The night of me becoming moraf she and I were kidding about different names that she can use. A few others got in on the action too. I can't say who came up with the idea but ultimately we came up with D93 Sharp Gunzzz. She was the first to do this. And yes I begged the heck out of her to do it in a joking manner that we all understood. I guess you had to be there.

From there it started spreading. A few others decided to change there names as well. And yes once again it took some begging on my part in a joking fashion that everyone understood and some others did it on their own. That was one of the best times I had in df. We all entered a game that way and it was hysterical for all. Even for the 2 players that were there and said "wtf is going on with the gunzzz names". Man did that make us laugh even more. So maybe that is where I had done some good in this df community. Shared some laughs.

It continued the next day. Same way going about it. Some jokingly begging and some did it completely on their own. If fact some wanted and even asked me if it was ok that they change their names too. I heard so many stories from all that changed their names that made me laugh so much. It brought out some good times, thank you!

It went over so well that that one player brought up that we should continue to do this for all that moraf here on in. I for one will do it should that person want to make their day. It made mine special, why not make theirs too? Do you see something wrong with that?

In fact I did it for JASTA and he loved it. Ohhh another thing that I have done for the community is that I created the moraf thread for JASTA when I found out that he moraf in wc. No one that was in the game with him or that knew he moraf did this. That's just messed up. He was very grateful that I did and we even flew together that day in a game with similar names and had some fun.

I don't know if I started a trend here or not since so many have been changing their names often. I can tell you that in my 4 months here I have never seen anyone carrying another player's name to honor them or excuse me, just made their day feel special.

Have you seen some "Dog" names out there lately? Whether or not it's from what happened with me I don't know, but it sure as heck is nice. I am carrying his name proudly with mine.

Go curl up into a ball in the corner somewhere for a few minutes because if you don't feel like a dope now you should.

You come here with some smart aleck remarks and I will respond the same. It's sad that some others can't stick up for themselves.

Parade? Nahhh but I did ask some friends to be there in the game with me when I did moraf and I am so glad that I did. They made that moment that much better. Even a good df friend of mine Dognamitt was there.

So go ask around how many people did I force to wear my name you cheeseball.

Let's see how many "yes he did" responses you will get.

Look Comet. I actually like you. I value your opinions. Maybe you are having a tough day or maybe you are just sick of hearing the same old stuff over again in which I don't blame you for your comments.

Coming here and ignorantly talking trash about me, well that is why you are getting the response from me that you did.

You don't have to like me or my opinions. You don't even have to visit my thread. I never forced you to come here in the first place. You took it upon yourself to do so.

You complain about 6 pages of sh*t right? Stop coming here pooping then.

I don't force anyone to do anything here period. What do I have to say to make some of you understand that. Maybe I should force that on you that can't understand it. Geez!!!
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First of all, Mr. Original, once again it was not you that came up with the idea of adding ones name to theirs when troubles come up. Sorry to burst your bubble...Skyfoxx comes to mind, a Misfit who had some cancer issues. Still not out of the woods...We all put his name in ours somewhere. It was awesome.

Look back at all the MORAF threads. We all have done it for each other. There's nothing here that hasn't been done. I know you think you're Mr. Innovation here but you're not the only guy that's done that.

Speaking for others...you know, if they have voices and they want to speak they will! You act like you've been appointed to speak for the weak! How noble!

Look you said it, you've been here 4 months! I don't think I even posted until I had been around for 4 months. Am I more shy than you? Doubt it. Maybe I wanted a feel for things before I posted... but I was new here... You new here? Your numbers indicate you are, but many suspicions arise about second accounts...you certainly know your way round here...you think nothing of arguing with veterans like Fate and Ped...I've never ever seen anyone tell him to shut up before... but that's right, he said something that pissed you off...shut up time... I even tried to play ref a bit. That was an effort in futility...

You started this thing, were you expecting sunshine and roses? I notice that when the tone changes, you like to say shut up a lot! That suggestion of conceit...truth hurt bud? Phrases like "ooh another thing I have done for the dogfight community"... What is that if it's not big headed?

Go curl in a corner? Is that what you do when you get told? Because I'm laughing my ass off at your reaction! I'm not ever going to tell you to shut up or call you a cheeseball... You go right ahead though, let it all out.

I'm done here! Cya around crusader of all that's cheap in the game...

Comet

Whoever came up with the idea of added one's name to theirs doesn't matter. The simple fact that we do it for eachother does.

Relax with the Mr. Original/Mr. Innovation comments. I stated that it may have come from what happened when players decided to wear my name and that it probably did not or did you not read that part?

What's your problem man. Did I say something to offend you that brought on your original attack on me? I don't think I did at all. You first posts here were just fine then bammm you come out with all this trash talk. I thought you were better than that. Remember you came here. I didn't come to you.

Why do you really need to know everything about me? First it's the players using my name? Now it's you know too much. Is this your second account?

I have nothing to hide. Yes it is my second account. I don't know if you can refer to my first one as really being an account though. Go look for yourself if you are so curious.

In the pilot search type in "gunzzz". The first name you see is the account I have now and am using. If it's ok with you since it wasn't my idea, I am currently using Dog's name in his honor. The second name that you see was my first account. When it came to subscribe for a membership I did not know what email or password I used so I had to start from scratch. Is that ok with you? If you are wondering what happened with me being in Brotherhood Aces I left that squad because after being there for 1 month all I ever got from anyone in that squad was a hello, maybe a few more words than that, but you get it. Black Hawk Ghost and I sorted it out and he was even man enough to say that I was right and apoligized for not doing anything more for me. I too apoligized for some things. Do you want to know what that was too? The last name you see "D93 Fire Gunzz", I have no clue who that is. It must have been someone that created a new account and wanted to carry my name when the others did too.

You state that I have no problems arguing with veterans players from here. Yes maybe they have more insight than I, but does that mean that they are any more special than me? No! More experienced? Yes! I would argue with Zup himself if I had to, but I would think he would handle himself in a mature, professional, and respectful manner unlike those you mention and myself for that matter. I only used the words "shut up" when someone was out of line and deserved it, including using it on myself.

You also refer to me being as being conceited for trying to help out in the community. Man oh man. What crawled up yours? I think by simply saying hello to someone can bring some happiness to someone. I know it did for me. Should I try to help someone learn to play this game are you going to start calling me Zuperman and tell me "why am I helping someone out. You didn't create the game. Let them learn for themselves".

I called you a cheeseball because you referred to me as being cheesy. Yes I have curled up into a ball unfortunately because it was the only way that I could deal with the physical pain that I was going through in a part of my life.

So let me just thank you for really being a friend here Comet. You really show some class. I knew from the start that when I started you didn't like me and I didn't know why. I still don't either and frankly I don't care. The only time you started being nice to me was when I was becoming a better player and when you saw that many other players would talk to me regularly. What was that about? Did you jump on the bandwagon? Even Hulk himself was so nice to me from the very first time I met him. I was out of line in commenting on something and I publically apoligized for doing so.

Do you think that you are doing me a favor by speaking to me then back stabbing me?

Your squads motto is something like do unto others like you would want done unto you. Sorry to say, but you don't live up to that motto.

Maybe you should step back and absorb how many attacks you threw at me. You deserve a barrage of insults from me, but I am respectful enough to bite my tough. The little bit of backlashing that I did is more than you can handle.

I am not one of your bothers in your squad so I can understand that I would not get then same respect that you show for them nor would I expect it, but man show some decency.
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Husky Dog {WP} wrote: Jesus, Gunz. Do you really think you are going to settle this matter here? I've only been here for about ten months, and I've seen this thread time, and time again (although, not with this many hits. So, kudos, I guess, on that)

Put this thread to bed. You aren't going to solve anything with it. Period. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. There are a lot of people in this game that don't even look at the forum, and most of those are the biggest violators of what you're trying to, I guess, solve. It's not going to happen. Learn to adapt, and for god's sake, stop getting into arguments with players that have been here for years about the "proper" way of playing the game.

Husky

You are absolutely right about putting the thread to bed. It's ridiculous that it is this long. You can thank those who came here with trash talk and talk unrelated to the matter.
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[M]oon wrote: D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:
If you must know how that came about I will share that with you. You all know Sharp from wc? Did you know that she is only 13 years old? Did anyone ever notice how wrong some of the names that she chooses are for a 13 years girl? Ohhh wait, who am I to judge right?

"Well she and I are friendly with eachother." We often will have normal conversations that are not dogfight related. Also has anyone ever bother to actually fly with her? To maybe train her a bit? Well I have. Point with that is that we are df friends. We even kid around sometimes where I call her my df daughter.


Creepy!

Ill say it if no one else will.

Moon

Yes it really is creepy that you even try to make something out of this.

Are you really that immature and want to start trouble by making this reference?

You take this line that I state in a friendship that I have with a member of the community and add quotes to it and refer it to be creepy? That's sick!!!

"Well she and I are friendly with eachother."

You do realize that their are laws against what you just did and being that this particular person is a minor I am sure that will go over great.

* the same goes to you Comet for thanking Moon for making such a reference *

You both owe her an apology
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Gentlemen, if I may?

A link to a comprehensive collection of most controversial topics here in the DF community. Very insightful!

The Unofficial Dogfight Law Library

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote: Hero

Before you do anything else please go back to the post from me to you above and reread it. I thought I made myself clear that I never read your thread. I peeked in it but never did read it. That is why I was apoligizing to you. After that please take your time in reading this one and read every word of it.

I hope that neither you nor I will not have to read these story book type of posts again.

Keep this in mind as we go further I do consider you a friend here. As friends do often, even as family members do, disagreeing is natural. How we treat eachother determines if a friendship will remain.

As I promised you I ate my dinner and spent more than the past hour reading every word in your thread. Forgive me if I did not retain all that was said there. Between my life, your thread, and my own it's a little overwhelming.

So as you know by now I did not post this thread in retaliation to yours. If fact as I was reading your thread I came across the post that you left for me. This is the first time that I saw it and that is why I never responded.

I really wish that I did read your thread first. I would have approached my own differently. From what I am seeing there is a lot of male testosterone flying around. Why am I not suprised. After reading everything there I can admit that I have a different perspective of things. Not on all the topics, but on some.

I remember you from when I first started playing here. Why is that? Because I thought you were one of the best players by far. I could never kill you and in fact it even came to the point where I wouldn't even try anymore. Even with that said I still thought you were a solid guy. You would always respectfully speak to me in a game and I felt honored that such a great player would talk to me. There were not many great pilots that would say anything other than hi to me and that is why I go out of my way to be nice to all especially the newbies.

I learned this game quickly because I always asked questions and received answers from all. Now I can understand why I couldn't kill you before and that is because you dropped either 1 or 2 of your bombs. I am guessing that's what is was because from your post you mention that you do drop and from what I remember about you circling the skies I thought it was amazing because the other players were unable to do the same. I sure as heck couldn't in my tier 1 with a bomb on me.

I can tell you that I dreaded coming anywhere near you. I knew it was an automatic death for me. I did however still like you as a person. This is why I am against all droppers. When I stated in my thread that it ruins the game for the others I meant it. I can handle myself now against a dropper, but what about all those that can't like I couldn't before.

If I wasn't such a competative hot head I would have quit this game a long time ago because of so much unfairness that I saw. It's not whining it's simply the truth. Much of this game is based on unfairness that it is not right. It starts right away too when you are put in a tier 1 with no experience against morafs with tier 7 and a heck of a lot of experience.

I did mentioned that I am a hot head right? So that was not going to stop me. I kept on playing and learned along the way. I know that I still have much to learn and am no where near as good as many that play.

In your thread you refer to playing the "first to destroy the enemy base wins" aka "btb" any way one wants. I read many good points from you and others that support this and that are against it. I still have to say that I am against it. I can understand the reasoning behind trying to use different tactics to win the game. I can even say that yes sometimes they are successful. I also know from experience that sometimes it makes the game even worse and last even longer. I was in a game like that were everyone eventually dropped almost everytime all because one player started it. Once in a while someone would try to sneak or carry a bomb but with no success. We were all experience players here and all knew how to intercept eachothers moves. Frankly it wasn't hard at all.

This game went on for 90 minutes and only 1 hanger from each side got bombed. At this point everyone was feed up. 6 of the 8 players left the game. Me being a hot head remained against another equally ranked player because we had it out with eachother throughout the entire game. Lol...we battled it out for another 15 minutes and then we finally made peace and gave in. We both left the game honorably and to make sure one did not back out on their word we met up in wc.

That game is a perfect example of why I feel all should hold their bombs in a bombing mission. The bombs make the playing field equal for all, or as close to equal as it can get, even the newbies. Now a days I feel guilty when I kill a newbie in a game or any much lower ranked player that is. I often will not kill them in a game because of this reason. In some games where there is a mix of newbies and high ranks I don't have much of an option so unfortunately I have to kill them all. Damn I hate doing it too.

McFate and even Zebra (in a post in the past) made valid points of having seperate servers to keep different players and type of play apart. I have to agree with that. Even though the one good thing that comes out of playing against the best when you are a noob is that you learn quickly. Well at least I did, but I could understand how many would want to quit instead.

Hero...as you can see I talk too much. I always try to fully explain myself and that is why my posts are so freaking long. I try to respect my fellow players and don't like to offend them if I can help it. I would appreciate the same too from them. It's a give and take relationship.

There are frankly some here that can give a rats rear about anyone other than themselves and it shows how they play the game. The only thing that matters to them is winning the game. I do not hold those same beliefs I am sorry. So if someone elses beliefs are different of course I will be in a disagreement with them. It does not mean that I am forcing anyone to play my way or that I will even dislike the person. It just means that I am not in favor of what they do.

This is a game. I love it when those compare this game to a real war. Guess what? If you lose a game or get killed in this game you are still alive. In a real war you life is on the line.

I saw that you state one should play how they want. To some degree I agree with that. On the other hand I can not. Dropping is the iffy topic of them all because there are sometimes where I find it justifiable.

To make a long story even longer, you have never done anything wrong to me. In fact you have gone even beyond that of what I can expect. I on the other hand did wrong you by not visiting your thread. I apoligized for it and meant it. I hope me disagreeing with you on the points of dropping will not affect our df friendship. I know it doesn't on my part and I hope it doesn't on yours as well.

Whew

That was long

Bye my friend
Gunzzz

No Problem Gunzzz, thanks for taking time to reply. Enemy your not. You do happen to write books for replies but a.. who cares.. your considerably a good dude, glad to have you as a friend.

Call me what you will. Not carrying this on further. You'll just write another essay anyways.

You win. I'm a Backstabber. Ask everyone round here, they'll agree with you.

Going to find another bandwagon to jump on...because that's what I do.

My apologies to the community for my contribution to this thread.

Woah....

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:

[M]oon wrote: D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:
If you must know how that came about I will share that with you. You all know Sharp from wc? Did you know that she is only 13 years old? Did anyone ever notice how wrong some of the names that she chooses are for a 13 years girl? Ohhh wait, who am I to judge right?

"Well she and I are friendly with eachother." We often will have normal conversations that are not dogfight related. Also has anyone ever bother to actually fly with her? To maybe train her a bit? Well I have. Point with that is that we are df friends. We even kid around sometimes where I call her my df daughter.


Creepy!

Ill say it if no one else will.

Moon

Yes it really is creepy that you even try to make something out of this.

Are you really that immature and want to start trouble by making this reference?

You take this line that I state in a friendship that I have with a member of the community and add quotes to it and refer it to be creepy? That's sick!!!

"Well she and I are friendly with eachother."

You do realize that their are laws against what you just did and being that this particular person is a minor I am sure that will go over great.

* the same goes to you Comet for thanking Moon for making such a reference *

You both owe her an apology
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Im a father Gunz. And I would have a problem with my daughter having a so called friendly relationship with someone your age.

Guess my opinion is illegal? Hmm does freedom of speech ring a bell? Because you too sure are practicing it.

I have never spoke to that (said individual) and I never named names. So I'm not sure what law was broken? AND I FOR ONE,I DON'T HAVE A FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIP WITH A MINOR. So please Gunz before you start referring to YOUR law book, maybe you should read it first.

And for Comet? What law is there against agreeing with someone opinion? Personally Gunz you should apologize to that individual, you should have seen the moral lines between right and wrong in that situation. Teenagers are very impressionable, and should not be hindered to make their own decisions and thoughts.

Now they may argue that a friendly relationship with some one older was their decision, but you being an adult in this situation should have just said, "I'll see you in the skies". End of conversation.

My opinion

Talking about that, Monn and others (and to take a little break on this endless fight), next sunday is Father's Day here in Brazil.
Good Father's Day to everyone who are blessed with this gift of God!

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If I found out any of you chooches were talking, texting, or PMing "my" 13 year old daughter, we would have a problem. You may see my GREEN side. I guess I would more mad at myself for letting it happen, either way I see it as wrong. I am almost positive there are good people out there, I am just not taking any chances with my kid.
There I said it, have your way with me, say I'm wrong or right. I will do what is right for my family, how I see fit.

Talk about a derailing thread...

As a father of a 3 years "old" little girl, I agree with Moon 100%. But I ask you guys: Lets give Gunzz the benefit of the doubt, and lets put an end on this story, please. I am quite sure he probably chosen wrong words (as I do often). I don't believe he is a bad guy, and I am quite sure he mean no harm to anyone.

This is my last post on this thread. Sorry if I used low-level language, now that my head cooled, I see I crossed some lines.

Peace!