Wigbomb wrote:

Davy Crockett wrote:

Donm775 wrote:

Rudolf Rednose wrote:

Wigbomb wrote: I've posted a few times here and elsewhere about Sergent Furax and his lagtastic no-hit no-dead "skills". I even banned him for it once. He absolutely is a lag manipulating cheat, there's zero doubt in my mind.

Hi Rick,
Just got a bloody nose from playing againt Sergent Furax! He totally 'murdalized' us...but didn't see him lagg at all.

He is just incredibly fast in swirving about, and none of is stood a chance. Could it be that he has a much faster internet connection, or something like that?
Even in tight curves, much faster than I was.....
But what was clear is that he has no interest in reaching his goal, just intercepts in the middle of the field for high scores.
Never seen him carry a bomb!
Never flies head-on, only swirving to get you in a curve.....(well, it workes for him!)
Compimented him on his flying,

Well, just a thought.

I was in this game too, didn't see him lag at all, dropped his bomb at takeoff but had the decentsy to stay mid field and not come near our base, I've only just come to forum now and seen all these posts about him so at the time I was playing I didn't have a clue who he was, but to be perfectly honest I don't have anything against him (apart from the irritating bomb dropping, but thats not exactly new) he held a friendly convo and in his defence he was outnumbered for a majority of the game.

I'm not by any means saying I don't believe what you guys are saying, just putting in my 2cents worth

I felt the same way you guys did until I was shot down really high up and then I saw it, he was fast and skipping just a tiny bit, try going high and look at him. It's easy to see in a chute way up there.

And he did not go near base so that was good. But on a bomb base mission you have to drop your bomb to fight him. WHAT GOOD DOES THAT DO.

None of us could touch him and the only time i hit him twice he kept going. HE IS UNNATUALLY FAST.

I would like to see what he does carrying a bomb.

Furax never carries. I'm astonished that he wasn't base camping, it's almost all he ever does. Zig-zag his way to the base, bombless, then camp and exploit that unnatural speed you mentioned.

Please keep in mind, lag takes several different forms. A player can be lagging his fool head off but not appear jittery, not vanish and reappear, not exhibit any of the obvious, tell-tale signs of lag. Furax and his ilk clearly have a tech advantage of some sort, in a game like Dogfight there's only so much room for differing skill levels. Think about it; you can only aim so accurately, you can only turn so fast, there are only so many moves you can perform and tactics you can implement. It's a comparatively simple, unsophisticated game. At a certain level the playing field, skill wise, is sufficiently even that the differences in device, connection speed and "x factor" become obvious. My hand/eye coordination, vision, aiming accuracy are every bit as good as those of a 13 year old kid called TheDarkmist262...so whatever it is that makes him able to drop me at will repeatedly, it clearly has to do with his having a larger display, a faster processor, a faster, more stable WiFi connection. I use him as an example because he freely admitted to his tech edge. Combine all that with the subtle no-hit form of otherwise undetectable lag and you have your Sergent Furax's and Dragon Rojo's...and some veteran players who also benefit from subtle tech advantages. The stripped down fact of the matter in Dogfight is that a simple command is sent from my device, through the server, to your device. On my end it's "bullet fired"...on your end it's either "hit" or "miss". If either of us are lagging or out of sync (as we see with Windows 8 users) what should be a hit will appear to be a miss because it isn't registering at the receiving device's end. Throw overtaxed server lag and glitchiness into the mix and you can account for 100% of the game's screwy behavior.

Is a Sergent Furax the most gifted player of Dogfight in the game's history? Not when any number of us have had the experience of pushing dozens of rounds into him without result, and not when Davy's bird's eye view reveals the lag I've always known is there but that is almost always undetectable to the naked eye. Nobody, not any of the best players of this game, not Brian Strachan or M4rtin or Davy or 1001 or BluE MaX or The Vampire, none of them roll up impressive kill scores and zero deads in mission after mission after mission. It's that zero, more than anything else, that points to something other than pure skill. Dogfight just doesn't work that way, unless there's something else at work.

Simply hitting the "Thank You" button isn't going to cut it this time. Thank you for laying that out in such simple terms - I'm not stupid by any means but many players like myself haven't been able to understand what the frig these guys have going for them to pull off what they have been.
That sounds pretty reasonable to me, and leaves little doubt in my mind. There's a freaking monster buffet of rooting apps out there and I've seen what a device can do once it's hacked.

Makes me wonder if there is any possible countermeasure a developer can employ

Mr. Crockett. Fun game earlier. Sorry that we were on different sides. BUT I learned a lot. I learned if we was on the same side it might would have ended up different;)

Good job KA5EY, it was fun, glad to see you back. Take care dude.

Good morning MOMS,been awful quiet here lately.
I miss NOUSHBAG what happened to him

Where's PARROTHEAD.

Have a good weekend all

The forced no good update has caused some players to take a leave of absence until a new playable update is out.

Wigs!
Thanks mate!
Btb, with one hangar left, i thought ill give u the heads up.
But really i was on the toilet again 20 min in.... ..........and seeing u pop up i honestly didnt want to sit on that seat any longer.... ..........U know the older u get the harder u can get up

GOOD MORNING MOMS.

Hello moms just want'ed to say GO 49ERS THEY RULE !!!

Is that the old people you are taking about?
I mean those who were born 1949.

Hello ya milfs, I mean moms..never thought i'd post again but the weirdest thing ever, I haven't checked this site for 4 months and all of a sudden I get this inclination, and I log in, only to see Davy's post...I'm like WTF? Just had to say hello after that...lucky for y'all I'm not coming back but still think of you. All the best to MOMs and all squads. Keep it going!

Hey noush!
We sure miss ya mate!
Can't u sneak in a game or so?

MaX, Davy, Yak, good to see you guys keeping the thread active.

I have to say, this latest update has been a partial fix of previous issues for me. Randy, are we working with the same revision? Given that Apple invariably drags its feet you may be on the update before this one, which would explain your disgruntlement. If you have the new Name Size slide control under Graphics you're caught up. If not, hang in, it's on its way.

Porkfinger/Reck!ess, (the name of my new band; Blue Oyster Reckless Pork Finger) I'm glad you found some value in my little diatribe about lag. It's probably the most misunderstood aspect of Dogfight. I don't know whether there's anything Joaquin could do to combat device rooting or other hacking/cheating methods that don't have specifically to do with the app itself. My guess is that a developer is powerless in these circumstances.

Ali Noushbag! How weirdly great to see you, brudda! I was just chatting about you with someone a couple days ago, then Davy's mention of you here...spooky how that stuff sometimes works. You're definitely missed.

Noush!!!
You better get back in that plane. If you were to read the thread you would see that your name will pop up a little now and then. We do miss you, you know. Davy have been in tears ever since you walked away.

NOUSHHHHHHHBAGGGGG, PLEASE COME BACK.

YOUR MY REASON FOR LIVING LOL LOL

Any how we miss you NOUSH, hope everything is ok. PM me and I will give you my EMAIL.

TAKE CARE DUDE.

Come back home to MOM, Noushie, you've been out in the wild too long.

Time to come back Noush. I promise to not say anything that may make you place your face in your palm's... Again...

First time I've checked the forum in a few day's.....

GODofGODS......I COMMAND YOU TO LOVE ALL MISFITS AND MOMS!!!! OR I WILL TURN YOU INTO A BUTTERNUT SQUASH HEAD!!!!! THAT IS A DIRECT ORDER FROM FROM THE PLANET ORK!!!!!!

Pistolpete59 wrote:

GODofGODS......I COMMAND YOU TO LOVE ALL MISFITS AND MOMS!!!! OR I WILL TURN YOU INTO A BUTTERNUT SQUASH HEAD!!!!! THAT IS A DIRECT ORDER FROM FROM THE PLANET ORK!!!!!!

JAY LENO WITH A BALD HEAD?

Wigbomb wrote: MaX, Davy, Yak, good to see you guys keeping the thread active.

I have to say, this latest update has been a partial fix of previous issues for me. Randy, are we working with the same revision? Given that Apple invariably drags its feet you may be on the update before this one, which would explain your disgruntlement. If you have the new Name Size slide control under Graphics you're caught up. If not, hang in, it's on its way.

Porkfinger/Reck!ess, (the name of my new band; Blue Oyster Reckless Pork Finger) I'm glad you found some value in my little diatribe about lag. It's probably the most misunderstood aspect of Dogfight. I don't know whether there's anything Joaquin could do to combat device rooting or other hacking/cheating methods that don't have specifically to do with the app itself. My guess is that a developer is powerless in these circumstances.

Ali Noushbag! How weirdly great to see you, brudda! I was just chatting about you with someone a couple days ago, then Davy's mention of you here...spooky how that stuff sometimes works. You're definitely missed.

You know wig it's funny you should mention a band - I put up a pole on our Wraith website asking for help naming my rock & roll band but it was too close to call. I'd like your opinion, the choices were:

Toothbrush Gag
Wombat Crush
Semiclear Slime
Friggery Road
Shint Royale
and of course, Porkfinger.

Had some good games this weekend. My baby girl is thrilled to have her M.O.M. tag. She is even more thrilled to be ahead of me! Thanks to Cricket, Martin, Wig, Frank, Tony Montana, and anyone I missed for the fun games!

TXLAWMAN wrote: Had some good games this weekend. My baby girl is thrilled to have her M.O.M. tag. She is even more thrilled to be ahead of me! Thanks to Cricket, Martin, Wig, Frank, Tony Montana, and anyone I missed for the fun games!

Thank you, TX.
You are warranty, I'm always glad to have you at my side.

Davy Crockett wrote:

Pistolpete59 wrote:

GODofGODS......I COMMAND YOU TO LOVE ALL MISFITS AND MOMS!!!! OR I WILL TURN YOU INTO A BUTTERNUT SQUASH HEAD!!!!! THAT IS A DIRECT ORDER FROM FROM THE PLANET ORK!!!!!!

JAY LENO WITH A BALD HEAD?

Hmmm is iy just me or does that look like brainiac from dc comics?

Davey Crockett.....will you befriend the THE HEAD!!!???

Porkfinger wrote:

Wigbomb wrote: MaX, Davy, Yak, good to see you guys keeping the thread active.

I have to say, this latest update has been a partial fix of previous issues for me. Randy, are we working with the same revision? Given that Apple invariably drags its feet you may be on the update before this one, which would explain your disgruntlement. If you have the new Name Size slide control under Graphics you're caught up. If not, hang in, it's on its way.

Porkfinger/Reck!ess, (the name of my new band; Blue Oyster Reckless Pork Finger) I'm glad you found some value in my little diatribe about lag. It's probably the most misunderstood aspect of Dogfight. I don't know whether there's anything Joaquin could do to combat device rooting or other hacking/cheating methods that don't have specifically to do with the app itself. My guess is that a developer is powerless in these circumstances.

Ali Noushbag! How weirdly great to see you, brudda! I was just chatting about you with someone a couple days ago, then Davy's mention of you here...spooky how that stuff sometimes works. You're definitely missed.

You know wig it's funny you should mention a band - I put up a pole on our Wraith website asking for help naming my rock & roll band but it was too close to call. I'd like your opinion, the choices were:

Toothbrush Gag
Wombat Crush
Semiclear Slime
Friggery Road
Shint Royale
and of course, Porkfinger.

Well, Mr. Finger, I'm gonna have to go with the following write-in candidates:

Clark Kent State
Castration Rock
ZMUMF
Dog Mangler
Apocalypse Then
FluBug
The Angry Bulgarians
egg

You're instant platinum with any one of these, take your pick.

Wigbomb wrote:
Well, Mr. Finger, I'm gonna have to go with the following write-in candidates:

Clark Kent State
Castration Rock
ZMUMF
Dog Mangler
Apocalypse Then
FluBug
The Angry Bulgarians
egg

You're instant platinum with any one of these, take your pick.

I just wanted to be the first to congratulate the above players and welcome them to MOM! I've played with a bunch of you and you all are great.

I will say that I have seen FluBug do a number of things I've disagreed with in the past and the one time I've had contact with him for a long period of time I was just sick over it.

I actually work with The Angry Bulgarians! Nice guys and I didn't know they played DF but this was a nice surprise. I congratulated them in person but their English is poor so I'm not sure they understood.

ZMUMF is awesome in the tank. You have to watch YMUMF when he chutes and get him in the air quickly. If you let YMUMX hit the ground then try to get that tank before YMEX can move!

I think egg is really good but so sensitive. Seems to crack a bit when the pressure builds.

Castration Rock has a really good life story that everyone should hear. Hope he makes it to the thread and shares. Best to read it with your legs crossed.

Well, I really think this is the best group to come into the squad since I was admitted...hope to see you in a game soon!

Hey J4ff, not seen you around ....
I hope that the intervention had to do it all went well, and you can read this post.
I'd like to see you soon on your zebra plane.

How close are you to getting your stripes, Paolo?

Cricket wrote: How close are you to getting your stripes, Paolo?

Still about 90K.
Thanks for your concern, bro!

Holy shnikies!! Noushbag! He lives!!!

Hello MOMrads.

Just browsing through. Should have plenty of time to read today. I will be stuck out here till close to midnight. Ugh. Good thing I have a fever and don't feel to good.

Still waiting on an update that doesn't blow.

Well it was great to see you Martin! Sorry about my poor end.... Laggg was real bad my whole team left... As I came up from carrier, did a quick scan at the map. Only to see a blur of reds.... So cut hard for the closest one!!!!! Bam! Plurbioussswhateverthecraphisnameis? Laying there burning in the water next to ship... Sorry but at that point my brains (well what was left) oozed out of my head. The stars started flying at that point so I felt it was best for me to go....