Lol I can start by saying that Bellsaj is free to use at the moment

Wigbomb wrote:

Davy Crockett wrote: Thanks WIG for your research. It has convinced me to get the ipad air first week of January. I have to many times where I'm shooting at someone and nothing happens until they fire at me and I'm toast. Maybe a new ipad will correct that as it frustrates the crud out of me.

That sounds more like a lag issue than something device related. The new iPad might overcome certain forms of slow-down but I can't say, based on what I've read, that its better specs would help reduce lag. It's fast, but not that fast. You're already using an earlier iPad, right? All other things being equal, when the fifth gen iPad goes up against other devices it should provide some degree of advantage. But if lag is causing your shots to fail to register when they hit no amount of Retina display or processor speed will be likely to help. I know exactly the problem you're talking about, in the last three weeks it's dragged my mission average down from 130/30 to 70/35 (sometimes it's all I can do to barely get away at 2:1 or worse)...through no other influencing factors than increased server lag. A 60" iPad running NASA's mainframe chip wouldn't change it. Like I said, I fear the Apple ecosystem, we all know how rigid and slow to update the i-store is. But if you're already accustomed to it, I don't see how you can go wrong with the new gadget, it's a peach.

DAVY SAYS, yes i now have the ipad 4. I believe you about the problem being lag. I think you are right and maybe the new ipad might help some. I will have it on jan 5th. A few months ago the ipad fell off the table and hit the tile floor and it didn't do any damage but someone says that it could have messed up the gyros some. Maybe that's why I have a tough time in a dogfight in a turn. Thanks a lot guys.

Wigbomb wrote: Randy, I'm researching new devices, myself, while researching ways to justify the unnecessary expense. Lots of progress on the former, zero on the latter. Still, here's what I've come up with:

The Sony Experia Z is a premium tablet intended to compete with the iPad 4 and chock fulla premium bugs. No contest between the two in terms of performance.

The real iPad killer, or close, is the Google Nexus 10. But with the introduction of the iPad Air there's likely to be little comparison, The Nexus fared well head to head with the iPad 4 but the Air blows away the 4 and everything else on either side of the Android/Apple divide. The next gen Nexus 10 has been trapped in the rumor mill, we still have no definitive info on what it will be, or even if it will be. Projected release date keeps getting pushed back, Black Friday and Cyber Whateverday have already been missed, the holiday shopping season is now for all intents and purposes a write off...and the rumors persist that Google might elect to retire the larger pad to concentrate on dominating the small (7"-8") tablet market. They recently debuted their 5" Nexus phone, a commitment to smaller devices is evident. If there is no new Nexus 10 the next best android device will probably remain the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. Its processor and display come closest to giving the iPad Air a run for its money...which is to say not all that close.

With the iPad Air invasion already well underway Dogfight has finally, fully arrived at the tipping point where skill takes a backseat to tech advantage. Anyone with the Air will now dominate players with stronger skill sets purely by virtue of the Retina display, higher resolution, the blistering fast new Apple A7 chip, the M7 coprocessor, dual band MIMO wifi, a thin, light, easy to flail with design...and the unspoken fact that apps like Dogfight are optimized for Apple first, Android second. It's something we've all dreaded, and had to deal with to a lesser extent when faced with the iPad 4; Dogfight success is now dependent on how much cash you can throw at a gadget. For someone who ranked all the way to MORAF on a mid-level, slow, 4" Android phone (and has the Deads stat to prove it) it's a sad moment for me. The playing field just went vertical and it's all of us still slogging along with modest devices who'll be sliding off into the abyss.

C'mon you Nexus 10...at least we'd be able to keep half a step, not four steps, behind. Anything to avoid having to be held hostage by Apple's Nazi ecosystem...

I thought I would try an android tab and see how it held up to the iPad. I was extremely disappointed in the Sony tab. Even with out the quit to home screen glitch it has this thing isn't even in the same realm as the last gen. iPad 4. I would like to see the updates faster but I can live with late updates if the device will perform.

You are right the device makes a difference. If you are an iPhone user you will naturally gravitate to a pad. Apple phones are ridiculously small. Not good for shooting a microscopic dot with other microscopic dots. It's actually smaller than microscopic, more like invisible. Aim below the tiny name and hope you hit something before the 10 year old on the giant 10" tablet guns you down. Which was happening to me. A lot. Not any more though....Eh kiddies?

We play this game a crazy amount of time. We waste many hours here. Why not have the best experience you can? If that means buying the latest and greatest tablet, so be it. I wouldn't own the pad I have now if it weren't for my Dogfight addiction. Bite the bullet. Buy the tablet. If you are buying to play this game then buy Apple. iPad 4 is an excellent choice. I will let you know how the Air stacks up against it. I've read a bit about the new iPad mini. They have up graded the screen and the graphics should match the old iPad 4. That would make the mini a great buy. My wife has the old mini. It is good to play on but the graphics lack a bit.

On a side note, I'm seriously starting to reconsider my views on camping. Seems lately a lot of guys have a vicious need to beat me. Camping, spawnkilling, dropping in lopsided games. Damn am I that much of a notch in someone's holster? Sure wish I had one other MOM in some of these. One is all I need. 2 would be a god send. Then I could ditch my bomb, camp, and SK these muthas instead of hold my ground. Anyone else getting this? Starting to get me pissed off. Trust me I remember the ones that are trying it. Pay back is a bitch. The bloody nose I'm giving alone will be 10 times worse with a couple of good team mates. Sometimes your the windshield. Sometimes your the bug.

Max, let me know what time and which server! I think this will explain some of it! Others have the FEAR!

Would be good to get a few games in with you Marty. I never see you any more. usually I stay in the U.S. servers or European. If I get on and there is one that is red that's where I go. I don't like to fish through the ghost town servers for a good full game. I go straight to the action. We all need to hit the squad chat and at least tell everyone we are on. Our squad chat is always empty. I quit checking it. It seems to reset the text in a very short time too. So it stays empty.

Stay safe Btw. A nasty winter storm is on its way to you. It has been below -20 with windchill here for 3 or 4 days. North Pole. Ugh.

I know, don't see you or Yem as of late! Some of my best games are with you guys! Have been flying a lot with Flybot and VonLen lately! I will hit the squad chat tonight to let you know when I am going up. Will go to the European theater first.

Dang! Thanks, you do the same, those temps can make an instant unic out of you!

¥M4rtin¥ wrote: I know, don't see you or Yem as of late! Some of my best games are with you guys! Have been flying a lot with Flybot and VonLen lately! I will hit the squad chat tonight to let you know when I am going up. Will go to the European theater first.

Dang! Thanks, you do the same, those temps can make an instant unic out of you!

Marty, I don't need the temps for that..... I'm married.

I'll post on squad chat when I do sneak on. As long as y'all promise we can take turns dropping, camping and spawnkilling. I want some of the fun too. Like I said, married. This game is the only real opportunity I get to rather than receive.

Is it -20 with the wind or -20 + windchill?
We have -10°c or 14°f over here.

bellsaj wrote: Is it -20 with the wind or -20 + windchill?
We have -10°c or 14°f over here.

Actual temp was -20 for a day or two. Bejesus that is cold. -11 right now with probably a 15 to 20 mile an hr wind.

Gee thats cold.

I'll tell you one thing. When it gets cold enugh you feel an instant pain when exposed to it.
A couple of years ago I was out driving my snowmobile. The temperature dropped to -33°F. It was cold as he.. no that aint right... it was very cold and I wanted to get home to the fireplace and defrost myself. I was doing 87 mph when the wind lifted the helmet an inch so that my forhead got exposed. It felt like when you get a brain freeze from eating ice cream and someone hitting you with a fryingpan at the same time.
I don't know how to calculate what that temperature and wind speed would make combined, but it was painfully cold.

I saw -40 a couple times in Maine. That was without a windchill. You couldn't have any skin exposed. We would walk from the docks to the parking lot, a little less than a mile. By the time we got to the van, we all had a sheet of ice on our balaclavas and snotcicles to our chests. By far one of the grossest experiences I've had.

We'd have to stand watches in that too. Uniforms were issued to fit, so there wasn't much room for layers underneath and layers on top had to appropriate uniform attire. This is when I learned how warm pantyhose could be. Underarmor?.... BAH! Who needs it?


Here's a little trivia... -40 is when F and C are equal.

why a MOM...id be happy to help...im not a fan of camping. . Just saying...MOMs a good choice, but id sure help!

FRANK, CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST 100 GAME. AND WHAT A DOOSEY. WE ENTERED FROM THE START AND STAYED TILL THE END. MANY GREAT PLAYERS GAME AND LEFT. FRANK, IT WAS FUN, YOU ARE AN EXCELLENT RED AND EVEN THROUGH MY WIFE GOT MAD AND LEFT I ENJOYED THE GAME. LOL LOL.

Davy Crockett wrote: FRANK, CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST 100 GAME. AND WHAT A DOOSEY. WE ENTERED FROM THE START AND STAYED TILL THE END. MANY GREAT PLAYERS GAME AND LEFT. FRANK, IT WAS FUN, YOU ARE AN EXCELLENT RED AND EVEN THROUGH MY WIFE GOT MAD AND LEFT I ENJOYED THE GAME. LOL LOL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, DAVY!

You are very kind, I also enjoyed it a lot! (and it does not matter if I lost)
People like you, Swap, Mike, or Killer, and many others (I can not do right now to tell you all!) make this game, the most wonderful and fantastic at what I've ever played!
I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO THANK YOU ALL (and I just want to say all) TO BE HERE, YOU ARE MARVELOUS!

PS. Thanks again for publishing my first 100 kill! I hope this is also your record!

Bye All!!

I'm not sure if I had a 200 yet or not, I'm old and cant remember lol lol. I think I did.

This effing quit-bug is going to be either my or my phones death.
I'm sorry "Stinker smells" I tried over and over, got back just to get slapped in the face again by the quit-bug. I didn't even get to do one run!
Then I just couldn't find my way back again.
Sorry it was a good game.
And to all other M.O.Ms who saw me flashing in and out, it wasn't you, it's I who is the faulty one.

I love you guys! M.O.M Forever!

Diddo

Love the trivia on temperature parrothead....-40 is the same value on both scales? Thats cool....
28 is the point of number swap.....yup 28c is 82f....does that mean we can now plot a graph?

Figures .. was in a long lasting BTB and my battery goes kaput. Sorry to my fellow blues, buckgeo and zebraup .. had a good battle going.
There was an Air Commodore by the name of Daugiau nuotrauk?. The Force was strong in him. Flying the monoplane and was chewing us up. Knew the tricks of the trade with the tank. His K/D was in the 70s/30s against experienced DFers when I got booted. No way he's a rank 15 ... puppet?

Hans,
You, or at least your banner, has inspired me. I think I'm gonna steal Rick's art work and make a MOM calendar for the new year.

Rick, do we have 12 of those yet? If not, I could use a pirate wench for February.

If I actually do it, I'll get email addresses and send it out.


Edit: I just counted eight, not including Dent. I think I'm gonna do it.

Rick has his own rc car!!!! They missed out two decals when they made it tho.....one is the mom logo and one is the moraf logo.......

ParrotHead wrote: Hans,
You, or at least your banner, has inspired me. I think I'm gonna steal Rick's art work and make a MOM calendar for the new year.

Rick, do we have 12 of those yet? If not, I could use a pirate wench for February.

If I actually do it, I'll get email addresses and send it out.


Edit: I just counted eight, not including Dent. I think I'm gonna do it.

YEMX
Zandor
Fark
Whitenow
Hansone
Muck
Tex
RiC0

Yep, eight. I'll be happy to cook up another for you, G. That'll leave us three short. Perhaps a contest of some sort for the remaining three? I've been planning on getting us back on track with our M.O.M of the Month feature and was thinking that'd be a nice little perk, a custom banner for the featured M.O.M. We should get back to kicking that project around. Also, it's been my intention to filter in a few more of the eye-candy banners as I revisit and revise, anyway. And I can provide the full images I stole created from scratch if you might want to consider incorporating the banner version in with the unbannered original pic. The whole thing sounds like fun!

Great Rick, I'm glad you approve. I've already started working on the concept and figuring out which banner would be best for each month. The backgrounds of some of the banners, just lend themselves to fitting months. Shoot me an email with your "creations" and anything else you think may be helpful.

A contest for the final 4 indeed! The wench was more a joke, but now that I think about it, it should be the final 3 with a wigtastic wig banner for yourself. We INSIST! You will definitely take the honored spot of January (that way we go ahead and get you out of the way!)

I'll think of some ideas for the contest, but all MOMbers should throw out any suggestions. I think we'll need to close it out in a week or so, so you have time to put the new ones together and I have time to incorporate the creative genius I steal from it.

Greets brothers! Donm and I had a game last night with Fox1 (wardog) Fox likes to camp and SK MOMs. Clipped Don a couple times on the runway and tried me. I would highly appreciate my forum brothers visit his base without a bomb and return the favor for Don and I every time you see him. I know I will. The last time he came here with a weak ass apology and a promise never to do it again. Hmmmmmm.........That didn't last long did it? Don't let Fox get his wheels up. Lucky for him I was test driving this touchy new iPad. I'm getting sick of this. No one will be happy when I decide to stop carrying a bomb and ruthlessly camp and SK. I can stick around after I drop my bomb if it suits everyone. Or I can just leave that thing at the end of my runway and kill everything.

iPad Air took its first test drive last night. Here are my first impressions.

1. Graphics are identical to the iPad 4. This pad will not even handle the graphics turned on. What is the point of the fancy graphics? If anyone figures it out let me know. Even this pad glitches when some one shoots a tank shell at you.

2. Sound is better than the iPad 4. Has 2 speakers in it.

3. So far I seem to be able to tank again. Yesssssssssssss! maybe now I can win more BTC games. I haven't tried much because I'm gun shy on tanking from the split screen. So far every time I have tried it has worked. The split screen wasn't a 100% of the time deal though.

4. Air weighs a lot less than the 4. Screen size is the same as the 4. Over all pad is smaller. About half as thick and smaller around the edges.

I need to jack with the DF sensitivity setting. This pad is VERY touchy with the sensitivity set on full (a must in a turning dogfights)so I hate3 to mess with it. Any one remember when the planes here seemed to react like a jet? That is what it is like on this pad. I have to fly at almost a stall to hit anything head on and I'm way over shooting in a chase or can't get still enough to hit anything right now. I have it set exactly like my 4 and it is VEEEEERY different. Getting used to the weight is a bit of a hassle. I'm used to the 4. Almost a year of playing on it. The 4 feels like you have something in your hands. The Air feels like a toy. So far until I get a good system down it is frustrating. It is kind of like learning to walk again after a car wreck or something. The thing is super touchy. Hard not to put it down and fire up the old iPad and kill everything. I will get it down to a science eventually. I did manage to break 100 with it last night.

Thanks for the info Randy.

I was seriously thinking about upping to the Air from the 4, but I've ordered a Mini for the wife and the 4 will soon officially be mine (allllll mine, muwahaha).

I've been second guessing the decision until now. I'll stick with the pre-iOS7 ipad 4 for now and not feel too much like the youngest step child wearing old hand-me-downs.

Really I don't see any difference in the performance. It looks identical as far as graphics go and you still have to turn all the smoke, explosions, & B.S. off. The damn thing is way to sensitive (my only gripe so far besides the weight of it). I would say the iPad 4 is every bit as good and cheaper. I've only had one day with it though. Also already equipped with IOS 7 Which isn't all bad. I was just used to the old Apple set up, which I still think was better. The IOS 7 is to sterile. None of the app icons stand out. The old set up was warmer and better looking. They both function basically the same just look different. You have it on your phone so you already know what I'm talking about. As long as I can tank again it's O.K. I'm used to it now. Lemme get a few more days/games with it and I will report back. Right now I'm still an iPad 4 junky. I should ask Siri why it is so touchy.

The calendar idea is awesome. Can't wait to see what you two do with it. Hell I would pay money for one. How much do you think It would cost to print about 100 of them and could we accomplish it?

bellsaj wrote: Is it -20 with the wind or -20 + windchill?
We have -10°c or 14°f over here.

Perfect swimming weather.