Right,

In recent weeks I have begun getting more and more frustrated with a number of different players who may not be breaking the rules, but who are certainly not playing in a way that demands respect.

Here we shall vent anger and make each other aware of certain players and their ways. This can be from high rankers to newbies. The difference between this and the blacklist thread is that the rules aren't necessarily being broken.

Maybe if we successfully name and shame some of the 'pros' of the game, we may all be in for a chance of a fairer future in this beautiful world we share.

Duggie is my first example, not exactly breaking the rules but certainly not playing fair. Spawnkilling me repeatably even when he was on a bombing run on the CTC game earlier. He got me more than 5 times before I reached movement on the deck







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IF YOUR NAME IS MENTIONED ON THIS THREAD, DONT TAKE IT PERSONALLY, LETS TRY AND SORT OUT SOME DIFFERENCES WITHOUT THE NEED FOR MODS!

I agree completely, Stuart & Rich. As a falcon recruit, I don't spawnkill, but because of that, I have been picked on by a couple of players in different squadrons. I will not mention any names, for there is quite a long list...

Good idea to have this thread, Rich!

Well, from here on out, take screen shots and post here, lets get this concept part of the DogFight justice system. If shaming them doesn't succeed then at least we will all know who to watch for and maybe eventually group up and force them into changing their ways.

Good luck guys.

Well, I guess I've hit a nerve as in the last 4 minutes I have had karma swiped AGAIN lol.
Keep it up, thank you's mean more so enjoy yourself!!!

Thers a Karma for you friend! they take I GIVE!!!!! i like what you started here Mr Roo, you need anything i can help with just say the word.... my cheeky brother across the pond..... Your wife told me what cheeky ment

as cheif justice of the dogfight supreme court i autherise this as a good way to try to change behaveures

Utah70 wrote: Thers a Karma for you friend! they take I GIVE!!!!! i like what you started here Mr Roo, you need anything i can help with just say the word.... my cheeky brother across the pond..... Your wife told me what cheeky ment

Well thanks Mr Raptor, thanks also for the offer of help. You've always been one of the best on here and it's great to see you on the forum more.

And just as a Duggie update, he obviously read this and wanted some payback as he just TeamKilled me after saying the following.....





Duggie, swipe my Karma mate but atleast recognise your poor sportsmanship.

Focused social pressure based on screenshots and factual descriptions is an interesting idea. Note that if you are reporting on behavior that is not violating rules, it will mostly be around the gray areas of spawnkilling from a plane. There aren't too many gray areas remaining in this game, but that is the biggie. And boy are people polarized around whether it's ok to do that or not.

This thread, then, is for the people who DO have a problem with that. And the issue that arises it that people who DON'T have a problem with spawnkilling from a plane will think that this thread is flaming. Unless you are merely posting screenshots and observation facts.

My only advice, then, is that if you don't want this turning into a fiery thread, then keep it to screenshots with fact-based descriptions. Indisputable what-happened stuff, with very little (or nothing) on the judgment side. I think that will accomplish your goal of social pressure, without leaving anything hanging for someone to take offense to. After all, if they think the behavior is fine, then someone posting screenshots and describing the event shouldn't be a problem, right? Cross that line, and they WILL have something to be offended by.

Manfred

I can leave a name of I person that drive me crazy and not get in trouble?

Manfred,

I understand what your saying and I don't want to start an internal riot and if it goes that way maybe I will ask for the thread to be deleted.
When looking at the top100 last night I can see that some people are really lacking in the playing department, its clear to see that 'certain' people are maybe, entering the game, not playing but get the win reward. I guess that this said they are playing in zep games as there is low kills, low hangers but MASSIVE points.

I don't know Richy last nite I spawned into 3 games in roll that I Won without even firing a shot or taking off, so it happens u/no?

Good idea Rich. Also photos are the way to go, removes here say. I was going to hit you with a karma also, however hit Raptor as a pay it forward for giving you yours. Also maybe this kind of good getting passed on will take hold as others see this game is a great way to let out some aggravation if it conducted with some code, and good principles. Hoppfuly they to with help with the cause.

YEMX

I will apologize to bomber and eas for my statement (deleted) and follow the mods advice on this.

Sorry guys, killed by too many drop on takeoff types today. Frustrating.

Whosethisguy wrote: I want to shame Bomber and eas for their PATHETIC hanger to kill ratios. Try carrying a bomb for once. Think of all the wasted electron munitions!

Just a warning before this thread gets nasty.........We all have discussed this before in other threads about how everyone dissagrees with the way everyone plays this game (its ok to dissagree, but lets not get too critical).....I play my way (most players know already and usually dont have an issue )......we know tankspawn killing is not recommended.....I can go on and on and on.......But lets not get too carried away, Otherwise this topic will be LOCKED......

If you want to see the most PATHETIC kill/bomb ratio look at FLYMAGIC'S. Now, that's PATHETIC!
Does his plane have guns? I think not.

Whosethisguy wrote: I want to shame Bomber and eas for their PATHETIC hanger to kill ratios. Try carrying a bomb for once. Think of all the wasted electron munitions!

Hmm, how many hangers do u have bombed? I have 2323 and enzo has 27##, so how is that pathetic. U know whats pathetic, how u whine like a little #####. And who says i don't carry my bomb, that was one day when i didn't carry my bomb, ask anyone that plays me on a regular basis or use to play me.

I have withdrawn my statement, please see above edited.

So, my nomination is a player who needs little introduction. He's our favorite "woe is me" player, #58 in ranking and eternally grounded. That's right; it's pluribus. At the start of two consecutive games tonight, he says "you win." Never saw him get up. But I do have to give him credit, man it takes dedication to sit on the ground, hope your team wins and rack up a few points here and there. But what a slow way to get to #58.
Get your butt off the ground, shoot at something red and stop the whining!

(All factual and/or declarative statements, no opinions... well, maybe a little conjecture.).

To certain other folks, I don't wanna get all in your Biz-ness, but how about this piece of advice...

beanboy wrote: To certain other folks, I don't wanna get all in your Biz-ness, but how about this piece of advice...

beanboy wrote: To certain other folks, I don't wanna get all in your Biz-ness, but how about this piece of advice...

I can smell this one coming.......if I may put my 2 cents in.....I noticed alot of complaints about bomb droppers lately. It used to be spawnkilling, then it used to be wrong to go up high and then dive bomb on a hanger etc...etc....when does it end lol....There are many different ways to play dogfight and bomb dropping is one them......"WE" bombdroppers have a certain way we play. Its for the team, atkeast it is for me and I am sure it is for many others too.......Most bomb droppers are chasers and thats their style.....I first started chasing back when I realized I couldnt shoot straight all the time. I was always getting ahot down and so I started learning other ways to help the team. Thats when I started to chase/bomb drop........Back before I stopped playing, my so called "bomb dropping" helped win many many games..,...Alot of players would speak on my behalf if they read this....So as long as there are "hanger bombers" and "bomb droppers" the game will always be won by somebody....Now that I am back to playing, I will show you (as long as the lag stays away from me....lol)

"Played" the whole game like this....

Uhhhh I have to hear this again.....I personally have lot's of death's and not many kills'''''
My death's were wayyyyyy above my kill's for a long time....I see people try to rationalize this game all the time and that rational put's me in a category.....
I didn't get Zep game's for quite some time(few and far between). When I started the game I was spawnkilled relentlessly. My death's were averageing 40 up with maybe 1 kill. Most of those Player's don't play anymore... There was a point My death's were 10,000 something more than my kill's....I think even more.
There are way's to save point's, loose point's, make point's....some kills are even worth 4 time's more than the regular......Loose point's and take certain action's and you will regain those point's and I'm not talking about landing at your airfield....

There are Dynamic's to this game that I still haven't figured out..... Ohh and you can get more point's in a certain game by being in a certain place at a certain time.... This info was from a friend... and it does work.... It's not cheating either.... You'd be suprised how you can make and loose point's.

By the way good thread....Kinda I hope no sparks...

POW! I stopped by to make sure your Karma was stii in the black Mr Roo, good to see it is. YEMX thank you, and i will give the one ment for Roo, to you! Im sure Roo would and does appreciate it.

I have a qustion of interpretation, My death out number my kills by near 10% well here, my stats: K 7728 / HB 526 / D 8327 / C 5285 / W 1403... Interprate them. I am curious to what they look like.

I was called a bomb dropper last night by B, the ace. At first i was set back by the coment, and strangely offended. Why would the #1 ace take the time to apparently kick sand in my insignificant face...... I thought about it.... The few times that I had took him down were head on fights, not my stongest shot, but i was lucky enough to take B down i think it was 4 maybe 5 times at best. Not one of those time was i in hot pursuit of the ace,

Dent i think he was refering to Lagrenoullie anf pluribus, while others have more than 15ks or something close to that, they have like 3k and 8k which is alot for pluribus since he never gets off the ground. And general jackson, thank you so so so much. Now when i see some people who don't like something, they just report them or want to ban them. I liked it better when i was a noob, i heard a lot less complains and didn't get mad like i am right now because of people whining

Good to see you too dr dave.

And whosethisguy, u might want to check peoples stats first before making false accusations. And even if i wanted to drop my bomb then i will.

bomer1 wrote: Dent i think he was refering to Lagrenoullie anf pluribus, while others have more than 15ks or something close to that, they have like 3k and 8k which is alot for pluribus since he never gets off the ground. And general jackson, thank you so so so much. Now when i see some people who don't like something, they just report them or want to ban them. I liked it better when i was a noob, i heard a lot less complains and didn't get mad like i am right now because of people whining

Good to see you too dr dave.

And whosethisguy, u might want to check peoples stats first before making false accusations. And even if i wanted to drop my bomb then i will.

Tsssssssssssssst. Tssssssssssst. Tsssssssssssst.



Rattle. Rattle.
Tsssssssssssst. Tsssssssssssst. Tsssssssst.

Blue Max Young wrote:

bomer1 wrote: Dent i think he was refering to Lagrenoullie anf pluribus, while others have more than 15ks or something close to that, they have like 3k and 8k which is alot for pluribus since he never gets off the ground. And general jackson, thank you so so so much. Now when i see some people who don't like something, they just report them or want to ban them. I liked it better when i was a noob, i heard a lot less complains and didn't get mad like i am right now because of people whining

Good to see you too dr dave.

And whosethisguy, u might want to check peoples stats first before making false accusations. And even if i wanted to drop my bomb then i will.

Tsssssssssssssst. Tssssssssssst. Tsssssssssssst.

Rattle. Rattle.
Tsssssssssssst. Tsssssssssssst. Tsssssssst.

I think you sprayed some on yourself.

Got my gear on Thunderbomer. does that spray burn? What does it taste like? Says on the back it washes off with warm water. May be rinse your mouth your mumbling.

What, ur that ugly that u have to cover ur face, well sry to hear that.

Guys school me on this, i been hearing the words troll and flaming.... Im not a gammer and pretty sure that it has something to with gamming. Ive asked in game but havent gotten any answers.....
Thanks.