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The Official Wolf Pack Squadron 10 years 2 months ago #285368

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Werewolf, I, for one, am totally at a loss to understand why you would quit the Pack with such a cryptic parting statement. What are you talking about? Please explain. I can see you are upset, so I'm sure you have a good reason. PM me if you are not comfortable speaking here.

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Cool. W.p is looking strong. Thanks for your work Dire
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I'm in shock . I joined this squad for exactly the opposite reasons for the ones you listed for quitting. I don't know a thing about what happened but I assure you I feel the same about doing thing right
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The Official Wolf Pack Squadron 10 years 2 months ago #285374

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DireWolf {WP} wrote:

WEREWOLF wrote: Hey everyone,

Hope everyone is well. as a bit of news, without any blame to go around, I've left the Wolfpack. quality has given way in the name of unity with squads who let their members swear at people and cheat without remorse.

I for one wont be associated with that type of behavior; but when I called it out, I was told I was breaking squad rules. Despite being the 3rd member to join the WP, I was shocked to hear this. But, I still wish the best for everyone, but I practice what I preach and I don't bend the rules for the sake of keeping "friends"

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Red,

This is a regrettable decision. I entered WC and asked you to not argue about a game with a certain squad. A well-known squad that we have had a long and good relationship with and has supported us in the past. I was not in that particular game that you were in and can't speak as to what happened. But I know venting anger for all to see in WC is not the way to handle it. Lil and I were both asking you to stop.

I was the one who reminded you that arguing and using foul language in WC is not a WP rule. It's #11 on the first page! As a fellow Air Marshal, I asked you to PM me and vent and take anger out on me. I was willing to listen and be an ear.

Red, it's your decision to leave WP over one game. I'll say no more on the matter, as this is just a game.

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Dire, to be clear. I wasn't using foul language. Quotation marks mean something. I also wasn't venting. Just because bzerk and jay were angry, didnt mean I was. As for rule "11!", being an AM, I had the right to address the leader of the misfits (bzerk). Maybe that's the point you're missing dire. I'm not just anyone in WP and neither is Bzerk. Maybe you didn't realize bzerk was the leader of the squad by the way he acting.

Either way, the reason why I'm leaving is because you and lil defended the misfits' actions when you said the misfits are "A well-known squad that we have had a long and good relationship with and has supported us in the past." In short, you were supporting them just because you got "support" in the past. But, if that gives ANY misfit, much more the leader of the misfits the right to say "f you", taunt me with, "yeah, you got nothing to say now" as if i got scared after I drop the issue and stop responding to him, then this isn't the squad for me. Imo, NO ONE has the right to tank glitch, act like a thug, bully, or say "f you", squad "friend" or not.

The way this has flipped on to me for daring to stand up to the leader of the misfits because he cheated, cursed and acted like a thug, is the reason I'm leaving. I'm not going to accept being talked to like that because they're our "friends" or because they're a "respected" squad.

I was asked to join misfits long ago, and didn't for a reason. But things has turned full circle for some reason. In the end, I'm not going to compromise ethics.
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Werewolf, I have admired you from the beginning of my association with WP. If you say that bzrk did wrong, I believe you. I also believe that all of us support you in your righteous indignation over such treatment as you were subjected to while trying to stop idiots. However, when another Air Marshall like Dire tries to help, you ought to listen. 2 wrongs don't make a right, man. We're your family here, and you don't quit on family. I support you on the idiots issue unreservedly, but not your decision to quit us. OWWWWWWOOOOOOOH! And, for what it's worth, I'm an Air Marshall, too.

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Red maybe if you provide Screenshots of said issues and as Dunc Pointed out we are like a family I didn't see any of this only your post on leaving the pack if you've got the screenshot at least share it cause I ain't tryna sound out of.turn but as a group captain and a Jr wolf has a problem and they speak to me about a issue if no AM Viper or Digger are not about I ask them to at least have a screenshot of the incident they wish to discus or any squad or pilot that might have a problem of with a pack member I ask for a screenshot unless I see it then I will try to resolve the issue but then if I can't resolve the issue I will take a screenshot and refer to a AM or email Viper if I think a AM might not be able to resolve the issue depending on severity of the issue but yes I see your point aswell red but A fellow AM was offering a ear to get your side of the story cause every story has 2 sides
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Deli, dire and lil saw the way bzerk was talking to me. I'm not going to engage into a trial where I'm guilty until I prove my innocence. That is precisely why I'm leaving this squad. Too many people are worrying about not making the big bad bzerk mad. But I don't bow to intimidation. And that's what jaykiller and bzerk were doing. Trying to intimidate me, saying I need to "watch how I talk about the misfits"

Bzerk was innocent until proven guilty because he is from a "respectable" squad, but juxtaposingly I was meet with suspicion, and told to be quite until an AM took care of it.

If this squad cares more about the opinions of other squads than its own members, then it's becoming an auxiliary squad to the misfits. Hence, the reason why I'm leaving. If I wanted to be a misfit, then I would join the misfits, not misfits lite.

I like b52, destroyer, hulk, bullet and many other. But they have some real thugs in their squads, and I'm not going to cow tow to those bad apples for the sake of not upsetting the apple cart.
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The Official Wolf Pack Squadron 10 years 2 months ago #285402

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On a lighter and happier note:

I just won my first ever first place dogfight. You know I have finished with lots of top three wins but never a top score. I was lighting them up, got a bomb drop on a tank, while getting two airplanes. Days like this come along and we get to enjoy the euphoria. Going for a motorcycle ride, back later.
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WEREWOLF wrote: Deli, dire and lil saw the way bzerk was talking to me. I'm not going to engage into a trial where I'm guilty until I prove my innocence. That is precisely why I'm leaving this squad. Too many people are worrying about not making the big bad bzerk mad. But I don't bow to intimidation. And that's what jaykiller and bzerk were doing. Trying to intimidate me, saying I need to "watch how I talk about the misfits"

Bzerk was innocent until proven guilty because he is from a "respectable" squad, but juxtaposingly I was meet with suspicion, and told to be quite until an AM took care of it.

If this squad cares more about the opinions of other squads than its own members, then it's becoming an auxiliary squad to the misfits. Hence, the reason why I'm leaving. If I wanted to be a misfit, then I would join the misfits, not misfits lite.

I like b52, destroyer, hulk, bullet and many other. But they have some real thugs in their squads, and I'm not going to cow tow to those bad apples for the sake of not upsetting the apple cart.

Well said Red.
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navmed wrote: On a lighter and happier note:

I just won my first ever first place dogfight. You know I have finished with lots of top three wins but never a top score. I was lighting them up, got a bomb drop on a tank, while getting two airplanes. Days like this come along and we get to enjoy the euphoria. Going for a motorcycle ride, back later.


Excellent job brother! I know it feels good, and you earned it!
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The Official Wolf Pack Squadron 10 years 2 months ago #285416

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Red,

I entered WC to stand up for WOLF PACK and calm things down--I am only loyal to this squad. I tried to get you to PM me as any other member of WP would have done in those circumstances.

This is your home and we can all disagree like any family. Come back to it and let bygones be bygones.

Peace brother,

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Larry G.{W.P***} wrote: I'm not getting this either. Could someone please explain what happened with werewolf. Also it seems I can't send or receive PM's again and Viper10 sir, Arcticwolf saw me in WC and said you told him to speak to me. We tried squad chat but I sport a dot and he's dot less so that didn't work. Next I suggested a PM but mine wouldn't send and I haven't received one from him. Am I in trouble? Or did I do something good? I'm in trouble huh? ( I was going to place something along the lines of checking her ID at this point but thought it might not be appropriate for all ages) so this post just ends here.........

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Ill deal with the good stuff first. I asked Arctic to speak with you in your capacity as flight training officer. He was asking for tips so I referred him to you.








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WEREWOLF wrote: Deli, dire and lil saw the way bzerk was talking to me. I'm not going to engage into a trial where I'm guilty until I prove my innocence. That is precisely why I'm leaving this squad. Too many people are worrying about not making the big bad bzerk mad. But I don't bow to intimidation. And that's what jaykiller and bzerk were doing. Trying to intimidate me, saying I need to "watch how I talk about the misfits"

Bzerk was innocent until proven guilty because he is from a "respectable" squad, but juxtaposingly I was meet with suspicion, and told to be quite until an AM took care of it.

If this squad cares more about the opinions of other squads than its own members, then it's becoming an auxiliary squad to the misfits. Hence, the reason why I'm leaving. If I wanted to be a misfit, then I would join the misfits, not misfits lite.

I like b52, destroyer, hulk, bullet and many other. But they have some real thugs in their squads, and I'm not going to cow tow to those bad apples for the sake of not upsetting the apple cart.


My only real issue is that all this was done without running it up the chain of command, which is normally how we deal with problems around here. Red Werewolf holds a pretty high officer position and has my complete support, but I cannot help or offer any guidance without the information.

While I wont condone cussing in wc or in the game, I sure don't like it when other squads try to intimidate anyone in our squad, regardless of rank or position.

I got the other side of this already, and with both sides of the story I stand behind Werewolf 100%, mostly because of the reaction, not the action, if that makes sense.

Lets learn from this. Please don't cuss in wc, it isnt who we are. Please bring any issues to the chain of command when possible. My policy is and always will be to stand together with our wolves, and have everyone's back good or bad.

Regarding Werewolf's position, an AM wouldn't take care of anything in this case. When our AM's get into it the next higher person is myself, then Digger.

Now lets all take a deep breath, step back and figure out where we are.








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Dunc7 wrote: Werewolf, I have admired you from the beginning of my association with WP. If you say that bzrk did wrong, I believe you. I also believe that all of us support you in your righteous indignation over such treatment as you were subjected to while trying to stop idiots. However, when another Air Marshall like Dire tries to help, you ought to listen. 2 wrongs don't make a right, man. We're your family here, and you don't quit on family. I support you on the idiots issue unreservedly, but not your decision to quit us. OWWWWWWOOOOOOOH! And, for what it's worth, I'm an Air Marshall, too.


We are a family, Werewolf included. Now and always. Once a wolf, always a wolf. I would like to stress the chain of command again. From AM we go to XO, then CO. Dunc, if you have an issue please don't look to another AM to assist you, bring it straight to me or Digger. We cannot do our jobs without that type of relationship in place and functional.

This is an example of when we need to do our jobs.... Digger and I.

Did I mention you guys are all the best? Well, you are and I am pleased to see all the support for Werewolf.








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AAOUOUOUOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW

Congrats NavMed, I remember the first "Dogfight" I won also. Think I was floating on that high for a day or two, isn't it great when a game can make you feel like that. Any ways congrats once again see you around the sky.

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wE NEVER GOT THAT FAR, HE DIDN'T SAY WHY HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK WITH ME. MY BAD, HERE I WAS IN THE OFFICE WITH MY FEET UP AND THE FIRST CUSTOMER I GET AND I SEND HIM DOWN THE HALL THINKING HE WAS A BILL COLLECTOR.
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HI MY FURRY FRIENDS I HATE TO SAY GOODBYE BUT WINDOWS 10 HAS FORCED ME TOO. PLEASE ALL READ THIS THREAD FOR DETAILS - MY EXTINCTION HAS ARRIVED ITS CALLED WIN10. I HOPE I WILL BE ABLE TO FIX PROBLEM BUT IF NOT I WILL MISS YOU ALL. :( :( :( :(

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To my Pack Family,

I am not sure exactly what is going on here right yet, but I am not liking it. Like Viper said, this situation has happened without running it up the chain of command. This disregard for our chain of command is very upsetting to me. Even more upsetting is that a Wolf has left our squad.

As of now, I am asking that those wolves involved in this situation to please email me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. with an explanation of their take on this situation so that Viper and I can get a handle on this.

Viper, please email me what you know so far.

Werewolf, you are a founding Father of this squad. This is your home and I and the rest of the Pack do not want you to leave. I respect you, and I am asking that you give Viper and I a chance to understand what has happened and straighten things out. If you still are adamant on leaving the squad, I will respect that too. But at least give us a chance to learn from what has happened here, make changes and continue to strengthen the Pack.

Because this is a significant family matter, I am asking that this issue NO longer be discussed in this Forum until Viper and I have had a chance to get to the bottom of it.

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Digger {WP} wrote: To my Pack Family,

I am not sure exactly what is going on here right yet, but I am not liking it. Like Viper said, this situation has happened without running it up the chain of command. This disregard for our chain of command is very upsetting to me. Even more upsetting is that a Wolf has left our squad.

As of now, I am asking that those wolves involved in this situation to please email me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. with an explanation of their take on this situation so that Viper and I can get a handle on this.

Viper, please email me what you know so far.

Werewolf, you are a founding Father of this squad. This is your home and I and the rest of the Pack do not want you to leave. I respect you, and I am asking that you give Viper and I a chance to understand what has happened and straighten things out. If you still are adamant on leaving the squad, I will respect that too. But at least give us a chance to learn from what has happened here, make changes and continue to strengthen the Pack.

Because this is a significant family matter, I am asking that this issue NO longer be discussed in this Forum until Viper and I have had a chance to get to the bottom of it.

Thank you,

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Digger I understand that the none use of chain of command is upsetting and I tried to make light of the situation cause I don't want red to leave the pack at all I tried to understand what was going on cause like viper stated once a wolf always a wolf and red was here from day one as you stated and I will like to point out that I tried to refer to the chain of command " If a Jr wolf has a problem use a group captain if unless any AMs are about then if the group captain can't resolve situation they pass on to a AM then Viper Then yourself" I also stated that depending on severity of situation I will proceed to email viper directly if I believe a AM would be unsuccessful in attempting to resolve no offence to or AMs I was also tryna find your email as our squad CO but I may have missed it but now I have it saved I will either bring a situation to you or Viper directly upon severity I try to use chain of command as much as possible I know we are a International Squad like many others I don't know if we've got any AMs on GMT or GMT+ ie Australia or that side as if a issue happens it may be when Those in GMT- are sleeping I am on GMT myself I try to assist pack members to the best of my squad rank allows yet there's times I cannot resolve I'll proceed to email viper direct or pm a AM if I can

But remember that like work you report to a supervisor they report to a manager they report to area manager they might report to a operations manager then they report to the CEO so now referring to the squad in game the Supervisor(wing commanders/group captains) manager (AMs) area manager (HGO) operations manager(XO) CEO(CO)
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Just thought id do a quick post to show off my new banner! Many thanks and bear hugs for Myrlin for his work and bear loves it.
I have been away for the last week. I was on a sea kayaking trip in one of our national parks with a bunch of friends which was awesome and then i come home to this! Old bear is tickled pink.
keep up the good work guys, i kind of keep to the shadows but its great to see the amount of work that people do for WP. Bless you all.

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Just checking in.. After reading up on our squadron"s actions the last month or so maybe this is a good time to start my rehabilatation, I might not be able to fly yet, but at least I'll be here for Pm's, and prayer..

I finished my 6th and last 7 hr round of chemo last Wed.. The doctors are all positive, as are the wife and myself.. Sadly I still can't fly, but that will be returning as time goes by.. All accounts look like I've won the battle, and while it took its tole, it's my understanding that the physical issues that are causing my flying problems will ALL disappear with time.. I know one thing I have to wait it out, I tried to "fix" the problem by flying through it only to lose over 70 points on WRo.. So I'll wait lol..

In the interim if anyone.. And that reads anyone.. Needs prayer are just talk, reach me at pm or This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

I remain (and proud to be) your sqd chaplain!
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Nice to see you still around ! :) and likewise about the talking to Someone even though u don't know me
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HI MY FURRY FRIENDS AGAIN IN MY LAST POST I SOUNDED SCARED THOUGHT I WAS DONE PLAYING THIS GAME AFTER GLITCHES RELATED TO WIN10, BUT I FINALLY GOT THE GAME RUNNING AGAIN SO ILL BE BACK TO HUNT YOU ALL LOL. OK CYA AROUND IN GAME. THAT WAS CLOSE ALMOST GOT HIT BY THE EXTINCTION AGAIN LOL
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T-REX wrote: HI MY FURRY FRIENDS AGAIN IN MY LAST POST I SOUNDED SCARED THOUGHT I WAS DONE PLAYING THIS GAME AFTER GLITCHES RELATED TO WIN10, BUT I FINALLY GOT THE GAME RUNNING AGAIN SO ILL BE BACK TO HUNT YOU ALL LOL. OK CYA AROUND IN GAME. THAT WAS CLOSE ALMOST GOT HIT BY THE EXTINCTION AGAIN LOL


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T-REX wrote: HI MY FURRY FRIENDS AGAIN IN MY LAST POST I SOUNDED SCARED THOUGHT I WAS DONE PLAYING THIS GAME AFTER GLITCHES RELATED TO WIN10, BUT I FINALLY GOT THE GAME RUNNING AGAIN SO ILL BE BACK TO HUNT YOU ALL LOL. OK CYA AROUND IN GAME. THAT WAS CLOSE ALMOST GOT HIT BY THE EXTINCTION AGAIN LOL


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Blind I had the same thought if Tiny arms goes extinct returns then goes extinct again lol
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Blind Squirrel {WP****} wrote:

T-REX wrote: HI MY FURRY FRIENDS AGAIN IN MY LAST POST I SOUNDED SCARED THOUGHT I WAS DONE PLAYING THIS GAME AFTER GLITCHES RELATED TO WIN10, BUT I FINALLY GOT THE GAME RUNNING AGAIN SO ILL BE BACK TO HUNT YOU ALL LOL. OK CYA AROUND IN GAME. THAT WAS CLOSE ALMOST GOT HIT BY THE EXTINCTION AGAIN LOL


You have to love T-Rex only Dino I know that can go extinct twice.


LOL...no kidding! Welcome back (again) Trex!

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The Official Wolf Pack Squadron 10 years 1 month ago #285658

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Dunc7 wrote: Werewolf, I have admired you from the beginning of my association with WP. If you say that bzrk did wrong, I believe you. I also believe that all of us support you in your righteous indignation over such treatment as you were subjected to while trying to stop idiots. However, when another Air Marshall like Dire tries to help, you ought to listen. 2 wrongs don't make a right, man. We're your family here, and you don't quit on family. I support you on the idiots issue unreservedly, but not your decision to quit us. OWWWWWWOOOOOOOH! And, for what it's worth, I'm an Air Marshall, too.


We are a family, Werewolf included. Now and always. Once a wolf, always a wolf. I would like to stress the chain of command again. From AM we go to XO, then CO. Dunc, if you have an issue please don't look to another AM to assist you, bring it straight to me or Digger. We cannot do our jobs without that type of relationship in place and functional.

This is an example of when we need to do our jobs.... Digger and I.

Did I mention you guys are all the best? Well, you are and I am pleased to see all the support for Werewolf.


Let me start by clearing this up. Dunc, I answered you because it was your post I was quoting. You didn't do anything wrong, I was using an example and nothing else.

I failed by not outlining any kind of policy or procedure for "policing our own" as it were. Im about to fix all that and clear that up, maybe on our main page.

Sorry for the misunderstanding Dunc!








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The Official Wolf Pack Squadron 10 years 1 month ago #285663

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Viper I might email you what I emailed to Digger on your thoughts also cause I was wondering on the policy in such a manner that I tried to compare a work situation to help in the idea of what the procedure is just incase mw wolves may not understand
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AAOUOUOUYOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW

Greetings fellow Wolves, so I noticed that when I searched for WolfPack & Wolf.Pack the same list of pilots came up and I was the only one with the dot, so I'm experimenting by dropping the dot to see if it solves some of my comms issues. Hopefully it does.

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Thank you, Boss! No worries. At least you know I care about your good opinion of me as your new Air Marshall! Owwwwwooooooooohhhhhhhh!

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