. Wigbomb wrote: Big Tex, we're all elevated, game-wise and character-wise, by your presence in this squadron. No qualification or apologies necessary. If squad wars ever happen and we have to break down into fours, I have dibs on you on my wing.

Jasmine; that was a MOMimposter you saw. I've seen him/her/it, too. Lesa, our one (former) no-name player now uses her own name and has done since she joined. Please keep us posted if you see the faux-Mom again.

Ktheo, I ran into a mock-MOM myself last night. The guy we've discussed called -bob-. I asked who he was and he simply said, "mom". I asked again and he said, "I'm a friend of Keith Theo, he asked me to join." Illuminate, if you can.

Two consecutive days of some of the most enjoyable, and frustrating, play; I've played with and against more MOM's than I've ever seen in such a short span of time. I've also run into at least two of the most repulsive pigs in Dogfight; Moondoggie08 and I fuuck American. In both cases rampant team killing, tank spawning and trash talking spoiled the game. This I fuuck American (sorry Prodigies and visiting kids, but you should know what kind of scum you'll encounter in the game, and in the world, so you can learn by example to be as much a polar opposite to these abusive, emotionally stunted slimesuckers as you can. You learn as much by observing what's wrong as by trying to emulate what's right) ... anyway, this twisted swine was spouting anti-American invective, slaughtering his own team, abusing everyone in the game. He's entitled to his opinions, that's what America stands for, but not in this context.

Here's something that might be fun and might be stupid - and, being stupid, would then be signature MOM stuff like cute and CAKE - but it's been on my mind:

Name four non-MOM players you most respect and would least like to see ganged up and coming at you in red.

Then name the three other M.O.M's you'd want on your side.

Then, and it might be at least somewhat redundant with the first list: name the five "dream team" players you'd most want to see in M.O.M who aren't already members. Fantasy poaching is definitely allowed.

I'll kick it off, jump in if it sounds like a good lark:

Players I hope are in bed, not in red, while I'm online:

TheVampire
Rickenfaker
Dawson
REID

MOMrades I'd want on my "squad wars" team:
Coop
Big Tex
D_NAllanLesaDogssMuckStrachBlobDentHatKtheoOedSheibeJunkDannySputetc

Fine. A MOM can't play favorites with his kids.

Dream Team Recruitment candidates:
Samweb
Rickenfaker
Coolhandluke
shoe
Dianne
(and that girl on the right in Smurf's bikini pic...just trying for a not too abrupt segue)

Have at...

Wiggs, ya give me waaay too much credit. Much love and appreciation to you and to Scheisse for keeping us in line and on point.

As for your questions, I ALWAYS fly with garlic garlands and holy water in my vain attempt to keep Vamp away from me, or from his bullets finding their way inevitably through my airframe. Hasn't worked yet....

Samweb and Reid always remind me that I should be doing something other than playing this game whenever they are flying red. Not sure who the __eaS__ person is really, but s/he has caused me much consternation. No matter how i try to sneak by, I always seem to get busted and smoked repeatedly.

I know this is more than 4, but Hell Cat-2 and Rickenfaker are just as deadly accurate at distance as they are at close range. The only defense is the AMRAAM upgrade but I haven't got enough points for that yet.

There's NO WAY I'm not listing Duck in a scrap. Not only is he an amazing flyer, but knowing his story really makes it that more incredible that he's the BA that he is.

There's NO WAY that I can voluntarily put myself into any more hot water today, not gonna do it! I will say this though:

Wig - your style, prose, and ability to see the Big Picture and keep us laughing is second to none.
Scheisse - You keep everything in order, and on time, without you i wouldn't know who was who!
Paul - you WILL get my ribs, and very soon my friend.
Sput - I couldn't believe that you have the wisdom you do at your age. Your head is squared in and you have the brightest of futures ahead of you kid.
B. Strachan - you were always cool to me and were always encouraging. Total class all the way around.
Dent - Master Yoda. Learned how to fight well watching you play.
bopes - It seems me and you are always joined at the hip lately, and I'll fly on your wing any day.
doggs - Mr. Aggressive. Just when I thought that I could take it easy, you come in and kill us all! The TM still cracks me up!
Zandor - Mr. Consistent. Somehow you're always in the fray taking names and numbers. Eyes in the back of your head too!
Nazis - unbelieveably good all by himself. 7 of us flying against your 1 are actually odds IN your favor....
whitenow - how do you manage to see through hills and be on everyone's tail at once??!
New Jersey - old school through and through. Will never spill his beer while fighting or riding!
Big Poppa - kane can never be replaced, but you are about as close to the legend as there can be.
flying muck - we used to fly more together in the past, and I miss getting to fly as much together as we did. We wreaked a lot of havoc together!
oedius - we climbed the ranks together, and am SO glad that we ended up together in MOM!
allan - Always a gentleman, and probably one of the hardest to hit and very glad when we are blue together!

I can go on and on about just about every MOM, and I know that my addled brain is missing some obvious people who I've brainfarted on, and I'm sure to catch hell for it.

Big Tex wrote: And just for the record MAD, we don't like Man U in our house. Arsenal and Chelsea (although growing up I loved the 80s Liverpool sides).

Wow! An American that likes real Football? (I refer to what you americans call "soccer")...
And no, please, no! No Manchester United; no Arsenal and no Chelsea!!! The team is Cruzeiro!!!! Ah, how I miss that 2003 Cruzeiro golden team...

For those that doesn't know: Englishmen created Football; we, brazilians, created the fun in football.

And Tex, Karma + for your response to Mad. I like that guy too. Didn't like to see both of you on this type of discussion, really...

. Wigbomb wrote: Here's something that might be fun and might be stupid - and, being stupid, would then be signature MOM stuff like cute and CAKE - but it's been on my mind:
Name four non-MOM players you most respect and would least like to see ganged up and coming at you in red.
Then name the three other M.O.M's you'd want on your side.
Then, and it might be at least somewhat redundant with the first list: name the five "dream team" players you'd most want to see in M.O.M who aren't already members. Fantasy poaching is definitely allowed.
I'll kick it off, jump in if it sounds like a good lark:
Players I hope are in bed, not in red, while I'm online:
TheVampire
Rickenfaker
Dawson
REID

MOMrades I'd want on my "squad wars" team:
Coop
Big Tex
D_NAllanLesaDogssMuckStrachBlobDentHatKtheoOedSheibeJunkDannySputetc

Fine. A MOM can't play favorites with his kids.

Dream Team Recruitment candidates:
Samweb
Rickenfaker
Coolhandluke
shoe
Dianne
(and that girl on the right in Smurf's bikini pic...just trying for a not too abrupt segue)

After reading all these names you listed, I'm going to have nightmares tonight! Sanweb, Rickenfaker, Tex, Dawson and Vampire are my candidates to a "You red? Aaughhh" list...

Edit: Sorry for another double post...

bama21/bama21/Dalton/Danville,Alabama

Pedrinho wrote:

Big Tex wrote: And just for the record MAD, we don't like Man U in our house. Arsenal and Chelsea (although growing up I loved the 80s Liverpool sides).

Wow! An American that likes real Football? (I refer to what you americans call "soccer")...
And no, please, no! No Manchester United; no Arsenal and no Chelsea!!! The team is Cruzeiro!!!! Ah, how I miss that 2003 Cruzeiro golden team...

For those that doesn't know: Englishmen created Football; we, brazilians, created the fun in football.

And Tex, Karma + for your response to Mad. I like that guy too. Didn't like to see both of you on this type of discussion, really...

I don't like it either.

On the other hand, are you kidding about football/soccer?? And Brasil?? I had the good fortune several years ago to do some consulting work in Brasil in Campinas, Sao Paulo, Rio and up north in Salvador. Truly a physically beautiful country. I was surprised to learn that more Africans were sent to Brasil than any other place in the Western Hemisphere. To this day, I keep my "Brasil" playlist with Olodun, Beth Carvalho, Sergio Mendes, Gilberto Gil, and especially Daniela Mercury.
My first trip to Sao Paulo, I was staying at the same hotel as the Corinthians team, and walked past some interviews that were taking place. INSANE! Almost as insane as the Sao Paulo vs Corinthins game I went to that week! So the next time you see me you can ask "Voce fala portugues?" and I can answer "Sim, un poco"!

p.s. - took a picture of the shirt I'm wearing right now.

Big Tex wrote:

. Wigbomb wrote: Big Tex, we're all elevated, game-wise and character-wise, by your presence in this squadron. No qualification or apologies necessary. If squad wars ever happen and we have to break down into fours, I have dibs on you on my wing.

Jasmine; that was a MOMimposter you saw. I've seen him/her/it, too. Lesa, our one (former) no-name player now uses her own name and has done since she joined. Please keep us posted if you see the faux-Mom again.

Ktheo, I ran into a mock-MOM myself last night. The guy we've discussed called -bob-. I asked who he was and he simply said, "mom". I asked again and he said, "I'm a friend of Keith Theo, he asked me to join." Illuminate, if you can.

Two consecutive days of some of the most enjoyable, and frustrating, play; I've played with and against more MOM's than I've ever seen in such a short span of time. I've also run into at least two of the most repulsive pigs in Dogfight; Moondoggie08 and I fuuck American. In both cases rampant team killing, tank spawning and trash talking spoiled the game. This I fuuck American (sorry Prodigies and visiting kids, but you should know what kind of scum you'll encounter in the game, and in the world, so you can learn by example to be as much a polar opposite to these abusive, emotionally stunted slimesuckers as you can. You learn as much by observing what's wrong as by trying to emulate what's right) ... anyway, this twisted swine was spouting anti-American invective, slaughtering his own team, abusing everyone in the game. He's entitled to his opinions, that's what America stands for, but not in this context.

Here's something that might be fun and might be stupid - and, being stupid, would then be signature MOM stuff like cute and CAKE - but it's been on my mind:

Name four non-MOM players you most respect and would least like to see ganged up and coming at you in red.

Then name the three other M.O.M's you'd want on your side.

Then, and it might be at least somewhat redundant with the first list: name the five "dream team" players you'd most want to see in M.O.M who aren't already members. Fantasy poaching is definitely allowed.

I'll kick it off, jump in if it sounds like a good lark:

Players I hope are in bed, not in red, while I'm online:

TheVampire
Rickenfaker
Dawson
REID

MOMrades I'd want on my "squad wars" team:
Coop
Big Tex
D_NAllanLesaDogssMuckStrachBlobDentHatKtheoOedSheibeJunkDannySputetc

Fine. A MOM can't play favorites with his kids.

Dream Team Recruitment candidates:
Samweb
Rickenfaker
Coolhandluke
shoe
Dianne
(and that girl on the right in Smurf's bikini pic...just trying for a not too abrupt segue)

Have at...

Wiggs, ya give me waaay too much credit. Much love and appreciation to you and to Scheisse for keeping us in line and on point.

As for your questions, I ALWAYS fly with garlic garlands and holy water in my vain attempt to keep Vamp away from me, or from his bullets finding their way inevitably through my airframe. Hasn't worked yet....

Samweb and Reid always remind me that I should be doing something other than playing this game whenever they are flying red. Not sure who the __eaS__ person is really, but s/he has caused me much consternation. No matter how i try to sneak by, I always seem to get busted and smoked repeatedly.

I know this is more than 4, but Hell Cat-2 and Rickenfaker are just as deadly accurate at distance as they are at close range. The only defense is the AMRAAM upgrade but I haven't got enough points for that yet.

There's NO WAY I'm not listing Duck in a scrap. Not only is he an amazing flyer, but knowing his story really makes it that more incredible that he's the BA that he is.

There's NO WAY that I can voluntarily put myself into any more hot water today, not gonna do it! I will say this though:

Wig - your style, prose, and ability to see the Big Picture and keep us laughing is second to none.
Scheisse - You keep everything in order, and on time, without you i wouldn't know who was who!
Paul - you WILL get my ribs, and very soon my friend.
Sput - I couldn't believe that you have the wisdom you do at your age. Your head is squared in and you have the brightest of futures ahead of you kid.
B. Strachan - you were always cool to me and were always encouraging. Total class all the way around.
Dent - Master Yoda. Learned how to fight well watching you play.
bopes - It seems me and you are always joined at the hip lately, and I'll fly on your wing any day.
doggs - Mr. Aggressive. Just when I thought that I could take it easy, you come in and kill us all! The TM still cracks me up!
Zandor - Mr. Consistent. Somehow you're always in the fray taking names and numbers. Eyes in the back of your head too!
Nazis - unbelieveably good all by himself. 7 of us flying against your 1 are actually odds IN your favor....
whitenow - how do you manage to see through hills and be on everyone's tail at once??!
New Jersey - old school through and through. Will never spill his beer while fighting or riding!
Big Poppa - kane can never be replaced, but you are about as close to the legend as there can be.
flying muck - we used to fly more together in the past, and I miss getting to fly as much together as we did. We wreaked a lot of havoc together!
oedius - we climbed the ranks together, and am SO glad that we ended up together in MOM!
allan - Always a gentleman, and probably one of the hardest to hit and very glad when we are blue together!

I can go on and on about just about every MOM, and I know that my addled brain is missing some obvious people who I've brainfarted on, and I'm sure to catch hell for it.

Oooh! Oooh! Do everyone else next!

Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

God bless you Jon,
All my prayers are with you.
Get better soon.

-Sput

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

Will do, thanks Kopf.

Duck we're all pulling for you.

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

Duck, we won't be the same without you. We are pulling and praying hard for you man.

I will be praying. God be with you jon

Bama21

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

Thank you for posting the update, as I was extremely slow in figuring the forum out. Jon's wife.

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

Jon don't you dare leave us, God if a prayer works then hear all these prayers and know the love that is extended to this courageous man.

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

I praise God that I live in a nation that is protected by soldiers, both men and women, who wake up every morning with just one goal in mind: to fight for freedom. Because of what they do the United States of America remains free. Soldiers spend many days, weeks, months and even years away from their loved ones to meet this goal. The love that they have is unfailing, and it is displayed by their bravery and dedication.Jon my brother I leave you with this.
Joshua 1:9 “ …Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go.”

Go easy my brother and we will take it from here.God bless and HOOAH
Your Brother and friend forever SSGT.D.J.COOPER

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

A thousand prayers to you, Jon. We all know you will pull through.

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

The 111th are all praying for duckwing our thoughts are with you now more than ever.

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

Jon,
I pray for you and your family. Please fight for life if you are able. I would love to see you riddle me with tracers, as you have done so many times before. We are all sending our prayers. If the time comes where you can fight no longer, close your eyes and sleep well my friend. We shall meet again one day.


 

When a MOM flys the last flight 

Death is nothing at all, 
Something no MOM shall fear. 
We don't worry where we go, 
we know we are always still here. 
We shall just fly higher,
Just out of your sight.
We'll stay above the highest clouds,
When we fly our last flight.

We'll look down,
with a grin on our face.
Watching over our fellow MOMs 
Attack head on and tail chase.
We would love to dive down,
To join in on all the fun.
Just know that we must climb further,
Our job down there is done.
We'll look down with pride,
And ask you to carry on.
Give us something to watch,
A true show of MOMs might.
That is what we'll want to see,
When we fly our last flight. 

Laugh as you have always laughed,
We'll hear the joyous noise fill the air.
Do not cry a single tear for us,
We will also have fun up there.
We will fly wing to wing,
With those we have longed for.
Whose final flight predates ours,
We'll get to fly with once more.
We will turn and barrel roll,
With old friends at a dizzying height.
What more could one ask for,
When we fly our last flight.

If you ever feel abandoned,
Like we are too far out of reach.
When you miss our humor,
And would love another witty speech...
Remember, death is nothing at all,
We will always be just up here,
Sending love (and cake) from up above,
Assuring you that we are very near.
One day we will meet again,
To fly above the highest clouds.
One day we all shall climb,
Up above the scurrying crowds.
There is always a place for you,
When you climb towards the light.
It is just beyond my wing tip,
When we fly our last flight.

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

This is hard for me. Jon u have been a great friend. God bless u and ur family. See u in the next one brother. Ur one brave guy.

Chet (SheiBe Kopf) and I spent some time on the phone tonight. Chet filled me in a bit more on Jon's condition. It seems he's slept for the past 24 hours. As Chet passed along from Jon's wife, the doctors have indicated that Jon likely has only another 24 to live.

One of the last things Jon said to me in-game was, "Wig...it hurts so bad."

If he's sleeping now he's not in pain. If I were a praying person I'd pray that he continues to sleep. Jon has suffered enough.

Now cracks a noble heart.—Good night, sweet prince,
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest...

While Duck is resting I'd like to revise my "dream team"...Sputnik, Conoco, Bama21, Luna, Jasmine/420, Kptn Singh, Shiloh Biggs...so many others who feel immortal right now. Make every moment count. They blow by before you know it and you will have missed them if you don't remain ever awake and aware. Each present moment is a lifetime, the "now" is all we really have. Be compassionate, rise above pettiness and self-interest, make it a better world you leave than the one Jon leaves whenever he goes. Let that be his legacy: someone none of you ever actually met will have left a mark, however large or small, on your life. You'll do the same to people you'll barely know. Be kind.

Good night and sweet dreams to Jon, and to you all.

Rick

:..(

"Goodbyes are not forever.
Goodbyes are not the end.
They simply mean I'll miss you
Until we meet again..."

-Unknown

. Wigbomb wrote: Chet (SheiBe Kopf) and I spent some time on the phone tonight. Chet filled me in a bit more on Jon's condition. It seems he's slept for the past 24 hours. As Chet passed along from Jon's wife, the doctors have indicated that Jon likely has only another 24 to live.

One of the last things Jon said to me in-game was, "Wig...it hurts so bad."

If he's sleeping now he's not in pain. If I were a praying person I'd pray that he continues to sleep. Jon has suffered enough.

Now cracks a noble heart.—Good night, sweet prince,
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest...

While Duck is resting I'd like to revise my "dream team"...Sputnik, Conoco, Bama21, Luna, Jasmine/420, Kptn Singh, Shiloh Biggs...so many others who feel immortal right now. Make every moment count. They blow by before you know it and you will have missed them if you don't remain ever awake and aware. Each present moment is a lifetime, the "now" is all we really have. Be compassionate, rise above pettiness and self-interest, make it a better world you leave than the one Jon leaves whenever he goes. Let that be his legacy: someone none of you ever actually met will have left a mark, however large or small, on your life. You'll do the same to people you'll barely know. Be kind.

Good night and sweet dreams to Jon, and to you all.

Rick

Well said my friend...Well said

Hi Hidie Jon's wife. If u want to call and talk or anything. Jon is a great guy call me please (510)797-8025 or (510)502-8025. That goes for any of u moms. Call me talk to u later. PRAYING FOR U BROTHER

Duckwing1 wrote:

SheiBe Kopf wrote: Hey everyone.. I was just chatting with Jon's wife (Fifty Cal) at 9:45 central time. She asked me to post and she wanted Brian to know that the Doctors are only giving Jon another 24 hours. She is asking us to please pray for Jon. She and his mother are spending the night at the hospital tonight.

God be with you Jon,
Chet

Thank you for posting the update, as I was extremely slow in figuring the forum out. Jon's wife.

I posted my numbers in other post call if u need anything Brian Strachan

Duck, We Love you Man!!!!!! I'm praying extra hard for you .......mean ole devil....John.

Jon, your presence has graced the lives of your friends, family, comrades past and present, and your courage and comradeship will go on in all those you have touched. All of us wish you a future without the pain and full of love and humor. Thank you for being Jon.

Tom

In honer of Jon I have changed my in game name to Duckwing2

The Combat Soldier
Many accept the name of soldier,
Yet sit in the office, at the rear.

Whilst the real soldier, the combat soldier,
Fight the enemy, eye to eye.

Their uniforms dirty, faces weathered,
Hands rough, minds tethered.

They’ve seen death’s hand, reaching for them,
Their friend’s, death did condemn.

Their weapons are scratched, and used,
Long in the battle, they are abused.

These soldiers seek refuge, in the wire,
Where many spend the operation in its entire.

The combat soldier gets a short rest,
Only to go back out, confined by their vest.

For days they spend in a crosshair,
Terrorist seeking them, death they declare.

Combat soldier, many missions did you fulfill,
Many friends lost, forever still.

No esteem or awards will you receive,
Those with the rank, medals you will receive.

Though the combat soldier defends the post,
Their treated like the lowest, or a ghost.

The soldier and combat soldier, aren’t the same,
The only similarities are in the name.


Joe Moore

My grandfather was killed in WW2, my uncle was killed in the Rhodesian bush war, five soldiers of my Company were killed in Northern Ireland. My best mate was killed in Iraq. I don't know The MOM etiquette and I don't know Jon at all, but I think I know what you are all feeling. Don't hold back - say whatever comes to mind, even if it feels cheesy and stupid.

Jon, if you don't make it in this life you will meet my best mate Matt in the next. He's very funny and kind. Tell him I still love him.

Im a grumpy grandad..do i qualify?