I have been a LEO Firearms instructor for 20 years, former swat team member, Glock master instructor, and lover of walnut and steel. I collect S&W's primarily, but love my Python, and two very custom 1911's.
I keep a left hand Stag M4, a Benelli M4, and a suppressed Ruger 77/44 In my trunk. My carry gun is a.Glock 18, backed up by a S&W 442.
For fun I have 5 or 10 mod 1892 Winchesters,and a dozen or so .22's, my favorite is a 10/22 Custom, built by Chief AJ, a 70' something Cherokee Indian that holds a couple of world records in the shooting sports.
If you don't like firearms, that's OK, but if you ever need a cop, bad, hope he is a gun nut that has mastered his guns.

We are Gods greatest creation, we are the people, of the HillBilly nation.

Charlie Gearhart, Goose Creek Symphony

Thugs

I have been a LEO Firearms instructor for 20 years, former swat team member, Glock master instructor, and lover of walnut and steel. I collect S&W's primarily, but love my Python, and two very custom 1911's.
I keep a left hand Stag M4, a Benelli M4, and a suppressed Ruger 77/44 In my trunk. My carry gun is a.Glock 18, backed up by a S&W 442.
For fun I have 5 or 10 mod 1892 Winchesters,and a dozen or so .22's, my favorite is a 10/22 Custom, built by Chief AJ, a 70' something Cherokee Indian that holds a couple of world records in the shooting sports.
If you don't like firearms, that's OK, but if you ever need a cop, bad, hope he is a gun nut that has mastered his guns.

We are Gods greatest creation, we are the people, of the HillBilly nation.

Charlie Gearhart, Goose Creek Symphony

Thugs

BoltUpright-.- wrote: I have been a LEO Firearms instructor for 20 years, former swat team member, Glock master instructor, and lover of walnut and steel. I collect S&W's primarily, but love my Python, and two very custom 1911's.
I keep a left hand Stag M4, a Benelli M4, and a suppressed Ruger 77/44 In my trunk. My carry gun is a.Glock 18, backed up by a S&W 442.
For fun I have 5 or 10 mod 1892 Winchesters,and a dozen or so .22's, my favorite is a 10/22 Custom, built by Chief AJ, a 70' something Cherokee Indian that holds a couple of world records in the shooting sports.
If you don't like firearms, that's OK, but if you ever need a cop, bad, hope he is a gun nut that has mastered his guns.

We are Gods greatest creation, we are the people, of the HillBilly nation.

Charlie Gearhart, Goose Creek Symphony

Thugs

Yelsnit, is this you?

I have a Mossberg 500 12 gauge, .22 ruger rifle, and I'm in the process of getting a Bushmaster15...

I it is, BoltUpright, of the Yelsnit clan, gun toten, beer swilling, ramp eating, Hillbilly.

The guys in pic are not me, just a couple of knuckle heads we arrested a couple of days ago, for got the were on my camera photos. Whoops

BoltUpright-.- wrote: The guys in pic are not me, just a couple of knuckle heads we arrested a couple of days ago, for got the write on my camera photos. Whoops

I'm glad you explained that. I couldn't believe you were in law enforcement and used a picture of yourself and another wearing bracelets seated in the back of a patrol car. Thank you.
Bolt, is that 1911 by any chance a Springfield Armory. I've got one that looks identical to the one in the picture, with the same customized sights, hammer, ect. With a pair of diamond checkered walnut grips. I shoot it in matches and have a Colt Officers model for carry. Also have a 6" blue Python. That has to be the finest revolver ever made. I'm not big on wheel guns but I'm crazy about that colt. I have a CMMG MK-4, with a match grade bull barrel, Eotech on top, that I'm fond of and shoot often.

Thanks for sharing the pics. I'm curious as to the 5th picture with the room fulll of guys.
Take care, Mach2.

No, I would not pose like that! The last pic was unintentional, not real sure who they are. Sometimes a take covert shots with my phone, never know who yo u need to remember.
The Colt 1911 is a custom gun built by Wyane Novak. It's 9mm, a series 70 Colt slide on a aftermarket frame. I have a 45 1911 that was built by Armand Swenson himself. That. Is my pride and joy. They both shoot better than I can make them. My favorite wheel gun is a Smolt. A S&W model 19 with a four inch Python barrel, it's a humdinger.

Nice conversing with a fellow marksmen.

You have some sweet pieces. Those custom guns by well known Smiths' are really nice. Your lucky to have the opportunity to own them. It was also great talking with a fellow marksman as well. Take care and hope to chat with you again.

Mach2

Grew up with guns, own some antique , my fav, is a model 1894 45/70, lever action, converted to a 444, she has one heck of a kick to her, I can shoot it about 4 times then it start to turn my shoulder black an blue, puts out a flame, out of the muzzle about 2 feet long...

I can remember beeing shocked when I heard my friends dad didn't have a gun.

I have two 22lr pistols, two 9mm pistols, single shot 22lr rifle, bolt action 22lr and auto loader 22lr.

20 gauge over under, 16 gauge single shot, 12 gauge over under wich has change barrels for 308 win. Then I have one frankengun that has 12 gauge on top and 222 rem on under. Almost forgot 12 gauge pump action and 12 gauge auto loader.

I have bolt actions for 308 win, 30-06, 7,62x53r and 458 lott.

My daughter shooting steel hogs with my Ruger mkIII. She is only 6 years old but can handle guns safer than some adults on shooting range.

This is my critter removal tool. This old Brno 22lr can put five shots in same hole from 100yds.

Going to Afghanistan to molest civilians looks dumb to me.

That 22 rifle looks awesome!! I want to do something like that with a 243

onsekone wrote: Going to Afghanistan to molest civilians looks dumb to me.

I agree. What's your point?

And here we go again...

Biggs, don't bother losing your precious time and effort arguing with these freaks. And good luck on your mission.

yeah that's right Ped ask the people that defend your country,ask them to actually give up their guns I'm assuming they never actually shot a gun before joining the military(sarcasm) to defend your freedom In whatever country you live in.

From the toys children use, you infer the type of parents they have.
So, I can foresee where this whole thing is going to.
So, there's nothing for me here. Sorry to intrude.

Take it easy, Biggs... He already swallowed the bait...


(I need my meds... "Calm down, Ped, calm down... take a rest... count until ten... go back to work, Ped...")

Who's talking with me????

RONNIE AND PEDRINHO, two of the most respected friends here. Hi RONNIE, please stay out of harms way my friend.

If I had a daughter she would also know how to shoot and be perfectly able to defend herself. Unfortunately my two friends the world is not very nice and full of very bad people, folks need to be able to protect themselfs against the evil of the world and also against governments that are out of control.

Take care RONNIE and PEDRINHO. Be safe my friends.

I live in country where guns are not needed for self defense. I keep my guns unloaded and in safe. Sure, if I lived in country where guns were needed for self defense I would make sure that also my kids had access to one if they need to.

We spend a lot of time as family and I teach shooting to my kids as part of outdoor life. I teach them also fishing and all kinds of basic skills that are needed in nature. When they are strong enough to handle long weapons I will teach them to hunt as well. The bigger plan is to spend time with them when they are small. That helps them to stay out of trouble when they grow up. And when they have kids of their own they know to spend time with them. That is how strong families are build.

onsekone wrote: I live in country where guns are not needed for self defense. I keep my guns unloaded and in safe. Sure, if I lived in country where guns were needed for self defense I would make sure that also my kids had access to one if they need to.

We spend a lot of time as family and I teach shooting to my kids as part of outdoor life. I teach them also fishing and all kinds of basic skills that are needed in nature. When they are strong enough to handle long weapons I will teach them to hunt as well. The bigger plan is to spend time with them when they are small. That helps them to stay out of trouble when they grow up. And when they have kids of their own they know to spend time with them. That is how strong families are build.

Very good post and well stated ONSEKONE, it's coming to a point in the U.S. where a person almost has to be knowledgeable of the things you talk about. You sir are to be commended for teaching necessary skills in a uncertain world.

Topic seems to be taking a dark turn here. Ronnie be safe, whatever needs to be done to make that so. Onsekone younhave the right way of looking at things.
On the lighter side, here is a pic of my main CAS battery. My daughter also shoots these pistols in competition now that she has moved up from .22s. They are navy arms winchester 94 replica in 45 colt, remington baikal 12 gauge double barrel coach gun, 2 ruger vaquero 45 colt and an RG remington pattern derringer. Sometimes my daughter shoots them better than me, darn youthful eyes and reflexes! Youth is wasted on the young.

onsekone wrote: My daughter shooting steel hogs with my Ruger mkIII. She is only 6 years old but can handle guns safer than some adults on shooting range.

This is my critter removal tool. This old Brno 22lr can put five shots in same hole from 100yds.

Whoever deleted my post, please spare a few moments to drop me a line and explain why. Ta!

In case anyone missed it, I was saying how ridiculous a lame .22 pistol looks when it's all dressed up in stupid paramilitary accessories. I also commented on the dubious decision to have a six year old girl pose with this monstrosity on the internet.

Oh i know yours,andd biggs small views on things..second acc5...i posted ony rifle my gun post when it was,started by ph...no bait and no debate...you want no,weapons or war.which is good...but that world will never exist,ironically you plqy a game in which your intent is to kill or be killed,you joined as all did..to virtually fight with guns..seems like thats as close as you will ever get. Or maybe you love to kill?

Idunno, I'm not sure what you just said, but it's almost poetic. If you're hitting on me, I think it's working.

[DD]Big C wrote: Objective presentation of facts:

I encourage you to fact check this and confirm it. (Mostly FBI and UN stats)

Sorry, doesn't stack up as an objective presentation of the facts. More like highly subjective and selective presentation of some facts.

The first slide says up front that there are 31,672 gun incidents in America each year, correctly distinguishing between crime, accident, suicide and self-defense. Fine, but there are still 31,672 gun incidents each year. Oh just a moment, let’s check. No, there are not 31,672 incidents per year in America – there are 31,672 gun deaths per year. A minor point perhaps, but it has bearing on the deduction that “every year, guns are used over 80 x more often to protect a life than to take one.” Does anyone feel a bit uncomfortable with that logic?

Gun ownership vs intentional homicide rate is a favorite NRA statistic. Yes, the USA has probably the highest ownership rate on earth but not the highest gun homicide rate. That is undeniable, but let’s examine the competition. It depends the data you use, but the USA is probably number 12 or 13 in the world in terms of gun homicides, behind nations like:
Colombia
El Salvador
Guatemala
Honduras
Jamaica
Panama
Mexico
Swaziland
South Africa
Uruguay
Venezuela
Seriously, do these South American and African leaders in gun carnage give the USA an acceptable benchmark for success?

Oh, wait up, we do have a European comparison on slide 3. Apparently the UK, where guns are banned, is over four times more violent than the USA with 2,340 violent crimes per 100,000 people compared to 466 violent crimes per 100,000 people in the USA. Yes, the statistics are correct, but the deduction is absurd.

The legal definitions of violent crime need to be understood before you swallow this one.

The FBI only classifies four types of crime as “violent crime”: murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The British definition includes all “crimes against the person,” including simple affrays and assaults, all robberies, and all sexual offenses.

Europe has had three of the worst six school shootings. True, I think? But I could find data to show that the USA has had seven of the worst ten school shootings.

Feel free to unpick my analysis, but my point is not to be 100% correct. It is to ask you to be a bit more questioning of the NRA propaganda that’s out there.

The first part I will address is that I in no way support or admire the NRA. I also legally own and use firearms and therefore recognize their correct use and abilities.

Since the restrictions on firearms in England and Australia, crime has risen.

At the end of the day, the US is a very different place than any other country, as with any country and its cultures, people, and government. I will point out that most firearms deaths in the US are due to suicide, according to the FBI.

Also, the 31000 gun incidents are not murders, they are guns used in crime/self defense.

However, at the end of the day, the right to firearms isnt for pseudo masculinity or hunting; it is so the people can defend themselves, be it against government or eachother. And, with most violent death in the 20th century being democide, this is not a right that at this point is irrelevant.

I hate violence as much as you do Biggs, however, I see the solution as not allowing people to become victims, but letting them be as equipped as the criminals that will have firearms in any condition of laws.

Homicides in US 2008-2012. Since 2008 when Messiah Obama was elected has been prosperous time for gun industry. Basically every product they manage to make has been flying out of the shelf. What do FBI homicide statistic show? A slight decrease. Btw this statistic includes also gang related violence.




That mentioned +30000 gun deaths includes suicides, accidents, self-defense and those shot by police, guards etc.

Some statistics of defensive gun use include only cases where shots are fired. Some include also cases where following the first rule of gunfight has solved the situation. And for those who don't know, the first rule of gunfight is Have a gun.

According to wikipedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use defensive gun use happens between 55000 and a few million times a year in US.

322 homicides were made with ANY type of rifle in 2012. What is the answer to this problem? Of course ban any rifle with extraneous plastic grip. It should work...