Pedrinho, you ok. Let me know.

Im at the toilet sit... Relaxing... And losing half a kilogram of brown substance...
Dont shoot me while im doing it...

[LB] Pedrinho wrote:

mach2 wrote: I respect your opinion but was surprised when you disrespected everyone by referring to them as freaks. You two were clearly trying to cause trouble.

Acting like this, I actualy try to AVOID trouble - troubles like, for example, a son-of-a-freak entering my daughter's school armed and shooting children.

But we are from different cultures, different ways of life, and I forgot it when I wrote that.
I am going to remember that before posting, from now on. I promise.

As I said, I knew I was going to cross a sensible line by saying that. Sorry to say it, but I don't use to "gild the lily".

The problem is: many USA citizens seems to live in a different planet, where it seems there are only USA, and nothing more. They simply don't consider the fact that there are other countries, with different cultures around. And mostly, they simply don't consider the fact that the other culture's represent more than 95% of the planet's population - and this forum is frequented not only by USA citizens, and not only by adults. That's the point.

You want to raise your children playing guns? Up to you, not my business. But please, don't make free, cheap publicity on world-wide forums about kids wearing guns. It's disgusting (if not disgusting for you, know that it is disgusting for more than 95% of the "rest" of the World).

Am I going to lose your respect for this? - Perhaps...
Do I care? - Hmmmmm...

Not trying to stirr things up but Pedrinho does have a point...most Americans have never been out of America...every American needs to spend time outside of America...go to a third-world country and live there...dont get involved with gangs...otherwise you will probably die.. we Americans have it so dang easy...we are spoiled...being in another country will make you thankful for what we do have and not to abuse things...anyways just my two cents..

Everyone has a right to their opinion. I respect Pedrino's stance and hold nothing against him or anyone else, from anywhere else, for voicing their opinion, even if it differs drastically from mine.

I grew up in a gun culture, parented by hunter/gatherers who valued military service and kept loaded weapons all over the house and in the truck. I knew from three years old not to touch such things or retribution was swift. My lineage includes soldiers that fought to make this a country, and given such an upbringing is my outlook on the topic a surprise? No.

I do wonder about those from Brazil though; I know it is not a gun culture, but see their homicide rate is four times that of the US. Maybe the homicides there are like the homicides here in the south versus homicides in Chicago.

Example, in Chicago a rival gang trying to control the drug trade loads up their guns and drives to a disputed street corner, opening fire and spraying bullets everywhere. Two bystanders are hit and killed, four gang members are wounded.

In the south it goes more like this; Bobby Joe was messing around with Tiny's girl behind his back. Tiny finds out from a friend of a friend and heads to Bobby Joe's trailer park. Bobby Joe sees Tiny's truck coming and hightails it out the back. Tiny sees Bobby Joe's flight and grabs the 308 off the rack and takes a good lead at a running target three hundred yards away and there is a single shot, and Bobby Joe has a closed casket because they don't find enough of his skull to put it back together in any semblance of him.

Given the danger, I would think guns more appealing to Brazilians rather than less. Also strange is the revolutionary background, winning independence from Portugal at the point of a muzzle, which would also make me think that a gun culture would follow. I've been all over the world, under Uncle Sam's banners and on my own, and I find individuals are mostly a product of their culture, but cultures vary even within boundaries.

mach2 wrote:

[LB] Pedrinho wrote:

mach2 wrote: I beg your pardon sir, but who are you referring to by using the word 'freaks'?

I know I am probably going to disappoint some real friends I have here by doing this, but here it goes:
I consider a freak every parent that puts a gun on his kid's hands.

Sorry, guys, but that's what I think, and he asked. I have this malfuncion: I completely lack the capability of being silent when someone ask me what I think about some sort of subjects.
I am REALLY sorry, folks. That's me. Real me, as always. The drama queen. The stupid silly not-an-elf. Yeah, I am judging. But I am saying it outloud, not from behind velvet courtains. I just can NnnOT read this kind of question and pretend not reading it - I need to answer it. So, if one of you, my real friends, become upset with me by reading this, I am really sorry. Hope you forgive my judgement.
I need my meds. Really.

....Then for no appropriate reason Biggs starts fragging what others were posting by his lengthy 'grand standing' attempting to impress everyone and tempt them to respond.....

No appropriate reason? Fragging? Grand standing? Trying to impress? Thanks for the analysis, but I think you you got one part wrong: it was for a highly appropriate reason, namely to deter the posting of gun porn in this forum. You all know that it annoys a lot of people. You all know it is controversial. You all know it leads to emotive arguments and insults, and yet you persist. Just look back at other related threads. In fact, look no further than the first couple of pages here, where there are requests to lock this one. So, how's about you stop telling us to stop reading this public thread. How's about you stop telling us to stay out of a public conversation. If I was to start a thread that crossed sensitive cultural and moral boundaries (don't think that guns don't), I would expect the same treatment.

Oh, one more thing. Apologies for not quoting your entire post. It was a bit, em ....how shall I put this? ... Lengthy and grand standing?

This girl shows what it means to shoot like a girl... Awesome! I bet she was a lot of younger when she started.

onsekone wrote: This girl shows what it means to shoot like a girl... Awesome! I bet she was a lot of younger when she started.

Man! Thanks for posting that. That little girl is a heck of a shot, and used proper safety techniques the whole way. I might add that this was a sanctioned shooting SPORT event.

[*M] TR wrote:

onsekone wrote: This girl shows what it means to shoot like a girl... Awesome! I bet she was a lot of younger when she started.

Man! Thanks for posting that. That little girl is a heck of a shot, and used proper safety techniques the whole way. I might add that this was a sanctioned shooting SPORT event.

What caught my eye is how carefully she acts. She is not running with shotgun but is using walking time to reload. And no fumbling shells on ground or missing clays. She was timing most of the shots on move so that her both feet were on ground.

onsekone wrote:

[*M] TR wrote:

onsekone wrote: This girl shows what it means to shoot like a girl... Awesome! I bet she was a lot of younger when she started.

Man! Thanks for posting that. That little girl is a heck of a shot, and used proper safety techniques the whole way. I might add that this was a sanctioned shooting SPORT event.

What caught my eye is how carefully she acts. She is not running with shotgun but is using walking time to reload. And no fumbling shells on ground or missing clays. She was timing most of the shots on move so that her both feet were on ground.

Yup she did really well, you can see that she has been coached by someone who knows. Like i was told early in my competition shooting career, dont try to be fast, try to be smooth. Smooth is fast.

Smooth is fast.


Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and fast is lethal. Supposedly that comes from Roman military times as "make haste slowly". Still a good axiom, and was taught to me early on by some great gunfighters. Practice until you get muscle memory of action, then as speed increases add variables.

One of the coolest things I learned from working with Force Recon guys at SRT school was to load a couple bad rounds randomly in every magazine. It becomes second nature to clear so that when that small percentage chance happens in the real world you shrug it off and keep firing like nothing happened rather than panic and start the quicksand.

This is great! Everytown made a pro gun commercial! This ad shows what can happen if women with violent ex don't recognize their responsibilities for their loved ones and be ready to defend themselves.

I have a real bad gun control issue, if theres gun around,I need to be in control of it!

Gun control helps on fast doubles.

During the terror attack in Oklahoma a life was saved by the use of a gun. Won't see that in the mainstream media I bet.

It is of my opinion that all KNIFES should be banned or at least registered with the local police department.

Thank you, lol lol lol.

Man walks into a gun store and wants to buy a gun.
Clerk says," sure but because of concerns over gun violence there is a 3 day wait period."
Man says, " thats ok ill just take this baseball bat instead!"

Latest build, still thinking about the optics...HAMR? Eotech with 3x?

Timney 3 pounder, 18 inch recon upper, gunfighter adds. This will be my 3 gun rifle.

To stay with the topic, i LOVE guns and have many. I'm a believer that guns save lives (look at the beheading incident in Oklahoma). Evil hands take lives with guns...good hands save lives with guns. I don't typically hunt but have firearms for protection from anything...as allowed in the constitution. I believe founding fathers had enough tyranny and intended protection from such. My favorites are the evil looking AR15 and SW cz75 .40 cal. Other guns i have include a 12 g pump, .308 with a nice scope, 1911 .45, 9 mm. My .40 goes where i go.

Longrifle wrote: Latest build, still thinking about the optics...HAMR? Eotech with 3x?

Timney 3 pounder, 18 inch recon upper, gunfighter adds. This will be my 3 gun rifle.

Ohhhhhh gun porn!!! Love it. Beautiful

However, I do advocate gun control...use both hands when shooting. Thanks

Using both hands + hitting your target = gun control

My baby.

[*M] TR wrote: Man walks into a gun store and wants to buy a gun.
Clerk says," sure but because of concerns over gun violence there is a 3 day wait period."
Man says, " thats ok ill just take this baseball bat instead!"

Maybe we need to have all baseball bats registered with the police dept also.

Between all the guns and baseball bats being registered it will be a much safer world.

Does the forward pistol grip feel good in your hand when you're firing?

[*M]ONSTER CANNON wrote:

My baby.

OH BABY!!!!! nice!! 223 or 556?

I do like the pistol grip..it shoots both .223 or .556. I have both types of rounds.

[*M]ONSTER CANNON wrote: I do like the pistol grip..it shoots both .223 or .556. I have both types of rounds.

even better! my dad just got one, got a really good deal on it...I cant remember the brand right now...but it is just the basic off the shelf...no fancy stuff on it yet..... I just shot a M4 the other night...I LOVE THAT THING!!!

Ronnie Biggs wrote: Does the forward pistol grip feel good in your hand when you're firing?

It depends on what you are doing with it. I used one from a SAW kit on my M4 and for room clearing it was helpful in steering and acquisition, as well as recoil control.



Otherwise I don't know that I'm a fan. I put the one on my 20 inch rifle sideways for a while, kind of a sten/sterling feel, doesn't interfere as much and is slightly more natural, but no better. I really like the forward angled grip in the picture of my latest build, you have one finger pointed forward CQB style, and more control with less of an un-natural position, and snags less.

And if anybody runs that picture through their voodoo image searcher, yeah, that's me, and yes, I'm the kind of hombre you don't want to mess with, and if you cyberstalk me and come to my house I will fill you full of holes just like I'm doing in that picture.

note to self: don't mess with Longrifle....


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