Ok. I'll answer that. We (as most European countries should be very familiar with) would pray that some nice country full of badasses would come "liberate" us, being that we no longer could do it for ourselves. Maybe then those nice folks could have an economic meltdown from spending so much money to "help" us, and we could thumb our nose at them and give them the finger. It might be fun!

Fredneck checking in. I, too, cannot play. Says my account isn't found. Glad(I guess) to see I'm not the only one.

As far as the weapons issue goes.....I'm a school teacher....don't want to pack a gun to work, but don't want to see anyone else's gun rights pulled in a knee jerk reaction to a crazy. A wacko in China attacked kids in a school with a knife the same day and we won't entertain knife bans......

I hate what happened Friday just as the rest of the world does, and I hugged my young son and high school daughter tighter that night. But I don't think that we need to overreact in this moment when emotions are running high.....

Just my 2 cents worth.

As to my belief that our bill of rights is fairly worthless without the second amendment, let's look at it this way. I hereby command world peace and happiness. ... ... Yea. Not going to happen, because that statement has no teeth to be able to enforce such a command. Honestly, an unarmed population has no teeth either. I'm glad that France and the UK have similar freedoms as ours. If they make the mistake of allowing the wrong people to rise to power in their countries, how do they propose to solve such a problem? They certainly won't be able to do so on their own. My point is, our bill of rights was written as it was for a pretty good reason. Nothing in it was by accident. Yet, for some reason we are just dying to try to reinvent that wheel, regardless of how well it has rolled for over 200 yrs now. I say leave it alone, and be very thankful we have it.

China is not and never has been or will be a democracy, the UK, France, Germany, ect are, like you we have terms of 4 years then its election time. Russia is a pseudo democracy, but I would rather that than none at all, what happened in Germany in the thirties was down to a peculiar set of circumstance at the time, it is not something that is ever likely to happen again and if the German people were armed, it was at a time when Hitler was coming to power, why didn't they take up arms against him then, the reason, he could and for a time did save the German people, they saw him as their saviour, he was a god to them. He got the economy back on track, he built an efficient rail system, he built the autobahns, albeit with a view to placing Europe under the jackboot, but he did it, or at least had it done.

The second amendment is out of date, it is a dinosaur in a civilised world, even criminals can purchase guns quite easily.

Wig, Ktheo, those were a couple of fun games, really enjoyed them, gives me back some faith in DF, thanks.

Oh and......"you have been warned"

That really unplugged me for a while, kept thinking wtf have I done, only been in game for 10 seconds, only just taken off!!

Flyingmuck wrote: China is not and never has been or will be a democracy, the UK, France, Germany, ect are, like you we have terms of 4 years then its election time. Russia is a pseudo democracy, but I would rather that than none at all, what happened in Germany in the thirties was down to a peculiar set of circumstance at the time, it is not something that is ever likely to happen again and if the German people were armed, it was at a time when Hitler was coming to power, why didn't they take up arms against him then, the reason, he could and for a time did save the German people, they saw him as their saviour, he was a god to them. He got the economy back on track, he built an efficient rail system, he built the autobahns, albeit with a view to placing Europe under the jackboot, but he did it, or at least had it done.

The second amendment is out of date, it is a dinosaur in a civilised world, even criminals can purchase guns quite easily.

Well put as usual muck you hit the nail on the head.200 yrs ago it was the cats ass so to speak now it does not apply to todays times so much has changed dinosaur is correct.

Geez! I was just doing some price checks, in the states I could arm myself to the teeth for one weeks wages, or if I wanted to spend two weeks wages I could buy sht that takes your legs or head off with one shot!
That frightens me!
Now the question is do I still want to,come live in the states, how safe is North Carolina?

...phew! Wig must've invoked a 24 hr ban on me for excessive "soapboxing". Lost the game, lost he forum, everything...well, my dogfight tremons are apparently over....for now!

Flyingmuck wrote: Wig, Ktheo, those were a couple of fun games, really enjoyed them, gives me back some faith in DF, thanks.

Oh and......"you have been warned"

That really unplugged me for a while, kept thinking wtf have I done, only been in game for 10 seconds, only just taken off!!

always a pleasure muck.
wigs was giving you a hard time with his new overall power
dont worry he banned me twice i fact iam still banned
he;s just playing with are minds. dont leave brother the banter in game makes it worth while playing
cya in the skies buddy

just in a game with cubanloco...certainly recommend him as a MOM...always a capable and amicable friend or foe! Suggested he check out the forum, so I hope to see him introduce himself to all...

...and for those of you who joined me in the recent Wig/Z ban, I found I had to reset all settings to get a plane that didn't gopher on takeoff or spastically embarrass myself as I hopscotched thru the skies...after reset, seems back to normal, so you should all have me as a fat target again...

HI MOMS.
I was not able to log in today. And when seeing this, it turned out that it is in the same situation. However, a situation is not known yet. Since I cannot speak English, please teach a situation briefly.

it is kind if you teach me.
im sorry to speak english is a poor.

btschuman wrote: just in a game with cubanloco...certainly recommend him as a MOM...always a capable and amicable friend or foe! Suggested he check out the forum, so I hope to see him introduce himself to all...

played this guy good in skies always says hello

susi-harakiri wrote: HI MOMS.
I was not able to log in today. And when seeing this, it turned out that it is in the same situation. However, a situation is not known yet. Since I cannot speak English, please teach a situation briefly.

it is kind if you teach me.
im sorry to speak english is a poor.

SUSI, the server was down at echo and people could not login. 1st- shut down the device you are using and re-start it. 2nd- hit your dogfight app and make sure it starts loading from the beginning where you see the planes flying. 3rd- you should see the brown screen where you can choose the following, create an account or to use existing account. This is what worked for me, hope you get back in and flying!

Welcome to the first ever capture the carrier and bring down the zep game.
It's called capture the zep! Or bring down carrier? But its great! The players in this game can testify to this awesome new challenge!

ahahahhahahah i though that was fix already lol funny

I played that one. It was confusing.

Hey everyone. I haven't been on this game for about a month because I lost the kindle. Haha. But anyways I'm back now

Jacklpe wrote: Those senators u speak of would pass a law requiring all cats to be painted purple if it was politically expedient to them. And to Tex, I'd much prefer my chances against a guy with an AK vs a guy with a .308 that knew how to use it. Lots of rounds? Big deal. It's only the ones that actually hit you that matter.

And who do we point to for being responsible for the inevitable collateral damage?? Surely you're not suggesting that there would never be innocent bystanders caught in the crossfire?? And you think that lawyers are hated now? You'd have so many lining up to help sue for wrongful death it wouldn't be funny. And they'd be RICH. Not to mention the jack up in homeowners insurance rates to you as an individual, as insurers would increase the premiums they charge to cover you against being sued, your own personal liability. (Part E of your homeowners policy)

bama21 wrote: Hey everyone. I haven't been on this game for about a month because I lost the kindle. Haha. But anyways I'm back now

Who's gonna win, Notre Dame or Bama?

btschuman wrote: just in a game with cubanloco...certainly recommend him as a MOM...always a capable and amicable friend or foe! Suggested he check out the forum, so I hope to see him introduce himself to all...

Heck yeah! I mostly fly against him it seems, and he's always hard to fly against.

Jacklpe wrote: Which is why I don't believe in putting absolute trust in a government to protect the freedom of the people. The people need to be able to say "ok, enough". If they are disarmed, how are they going to do that? (think Tiananmen Square)

I don't know, the elections we have every two years to vote for our congressmen, and every four for our President seem to be working just fine...

In a free society, the rule of law works, although not always as perfectly as we'd like. If we don't like our government (local, state, or federal), we have the right to change it, and we do whenever we feel "ok, enough". I wouldn't call China a government that is open and free, and to comnpare it to ours makes no sense whatsoever. The Constitution is the tool we use to protect the people, and it was to the Constitution and all that it represents, that I swore an oath to serve and protect many, many, many, many years ago. I would agree with you more if this was Iran, China, Sudan, or any other country where dissenting voices routinely get put down by their governement. As long as we can still parody and make fun of our leaders and watch SNL skits about them Saturday nights, I'm good.

I apologize for my soapboxing to all my MOMsters, and potential future crazies. This incident has really affected me more than I thought, and I thank you all for allowing this forum to be a place for me to vent my frustrations over these senseless murders of innocents. I never meant to offend any of you by my rants, and if I have, I hope that we can still be cool.

Big Tex wrote: I apologize for my soapboxing to all my MOMsters, and potential future crazies. This incident has really affected me more than I thought, and I thank you all for allowing this forum to be a place for me to vent my frustrations over these senseless murders of innocents. I never meant to offend any of you by my rants, and if I have, I hope that we can still be cool.

Right there with ya brother it was getting pretty crowded on that box I to sometimes get zeroed in on a point and it flows like water so please also accept my apologies for soapboxing

IN on cubanoloco.

Good player.

If you can't soapbox with and to friends, then it's a sad, sad state of affairs, I thank you all for allowing me to rant a little......ok , I know, it was a lot . big group hug!

I thought cubanoloco had been asked in, is that the Alzheimer's kicking in or did I have a dejavu moment

Welcome home Bama.....now lets see, there's Dent red dress needs to go to the cleaners in time for Christmas, oh and his leather mini skirt could use a wipe down, several new planes need some spit and polish and Agnes said as a special welcome home gift you can sponge bath her on your own tonight! And can you go find out how many sheep aBig Tex has left me, if any!!

Welcome back lad!!!

Thank you, Gentlemen for "....a well managed, honorable debate. Throughly interesting & intelligently mastered. Highly entertaining." *****
(NY TIMES REVIEW)

Tex. ya gotta ask yourself why is this not Iran etc? I mean we aren't so special that we couldn't end up in that boat, given potential circumstances and events. As far as the constitution... The bill of rights is a very important part of that. I'm sorry if the second amendment ain't the warmest and fuzziest part of it, but it's there for a reason. I'm not a big fan of supporting and defending the parts of the constitution that I like. Especially the founding principles of our country. All of these parts make a very good whole, and the unintended consequences of pulling out pieces of the jenga puzzle are great. I'm glad you believe that it will always be because it has always been, but there are plenty who would gladly make you and me their bitch in a heartbeat, if given half of an opportunity. BTW, I was attempting to study that Big Tex twist you were doing there. It is similar to something I've been doing lately, but certainly not as well or effectively. I like it.

I don't care if he's CUBANO or not?!?

He must be LOCO to want to age more quickly by hanging with us.

I vote IN!