Disarming the people does not enslave them, up until the late 1700's it was quite common in this country and other free countries to carry a weapon, we are no longer allowed to and we are free.


Now lets get this thread back on to its normal slightly skewed mentality and have some fun before wig presses the Wigappopopolips button on Friday, though I don't know for sure what time zone he is going to use, so for some it might come on Thursday or Saturday

JackIpe you are soooo right...they are looking to disarm you, they are legalizing torture, patenting mind control and buying ammo and drones as fast as they can. Scary stuff, you can't always live under the fog of, "this will never happen" it has happened throughout history. Its the reason all the founding documents exist.

Ok You want to think about it, Them find the statistics That shows how many of these guns used in murders in any country
War purchased legally,,, Most guns used to commit crimes are not purchased but stolen they are not the property of the person using them
If you ban guns hand guns are any other then the only people that will have guns will be the criminals,
They all ready know how to and where to get them illegally, So think on that for a while

Oh wow! You guys really are insecure, between 2004 and 2010 1.4 million guns were stolen from private homes in the states, that's 1.4 million criminals armed by the householder!

Alright! Who in this conversation TOOK the guns off my plane?!?

I finally get back to the game and my guns were gone!

.....oh....you gotta push the button?

Sorry...continue.....

i'm 25 years old . i want to join this group .

Paul Mantz, Jr. wrote: Alright! Who in this conversation TOOK the guns off my plane?!?

I finally get back to the game and my guns were gone!

.....oh....you gotta push the button?

Sorry...continue.....

Just don't press the wig button, at least not till Friday !

ZzSilentKillerzZ wrote: i'm 25 years old . i want to join this group .

Group! Squad my man, squad...care to enlighten us as to why, well it doesn't really matter, I'm just curious and nosey.

My problem with the game started earlier today. After several hours with no problems, SPUTHEAD enters the game. I said hi. Then the WIGASAURUS entered. I bowed. Then lost connection......coincidence? I think not.

Now. My question is: Are WIG & SPUT trapped in a game of 1 on 1 Capture the Carrier....for eternity? I've seen neither since. I'm worried.


ok..I'm not...

Account not found?!?!?! That's a new one!

That's what im getting, went into my profile and my password has been deleted, funny thing is earlier i found my banner signature had been deleted, I am honestly fed up with this crap and am on the verge of uninstalling, they got my money, they can keep it!

Ohhhhh so I shouldn't hit the wig button… well that's i little to late for that now isn't it
I know timeout ill c u after the 21 so the Mayans will be right hopefully not but…


And zz iv played against him he's good

We can go round and round on this issue and everyone has there own opinion on this matter the last thing I will say on this issue is if you wanna own and play with assult wepons take the oath they will let you play with the good stuff all day long and when those same assault wepons are shooting back at ya your take on them will be quite different mine was.nothing like sweeping a corner and there's a 12 yrold kid with an ak waitting to take you out not knowing who your enemy is because they are all dressed in civilians clothes kinda sucks to all my veteran brothers you know what im talking about. Im sorry this post stirred up so much for some. ....peace dj

Jacklpe wrote: And Wig, I guess I misunderstood the invite. I'm not sure how to "join a squad" or whatever, for the simple fact I don't know how the culture around here works. I'll hold off of flying the M.O.M banner as long as you guys wish. By the way, my name is David, I live in Orlando, FL, and I'm a self employed trucker who works too much. I usually play this game while having to wait around here and there to be loaded/unloaded etc. It is a pleasant diversion. I'm normally not too much of a "gamer", but I do find this one to be addictive. By the way, I normally wouldn't share this, but considering the current discussion... I'm a very conservative/libertarian type of guy. I believe in personal responsibility, small government, and the general idea that the government in the US belongs to the people. Not the other way around. Sooo... With all of that being said, once again I appreciate the invite.



Thanks

Jacklpe

Hey!! Someone I can hitch my Monter Truck Grill to!!

Jacklpe wrote: Big Tex and all. I'll try to keep it brief. The first amendment and the rest of the bill of rights that we love so much is worthless without the second amendment. Yes, other countries have different statistics than ours, but they also enjoy many less freedoms. Please understand that what happened in CT was done by an individual who was ineligible to own a firearm. Also know that CT has some of the most stringent firearms laws in the US. Neither of these facts stopped this crazy and evil person. Mass murderers have only their mind to limit their abilities to inflict harm. Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer, the 9/11 hijackers used box cutters and airplanes. And for my final point... The city with the worst murder rate in the US is also the city with the strictest gun laws. Chicago.

Until we get serious about consequences for bad actions, mental health treatment, and just the general idea that there is good and evil, there will be no end to these type of things.

My 2 cents
Everyone have a great day

Jacklpe

The rest of the Constitution is worthless without the 2nd Amendment??

Going to have to disagree with you on that point. Even in the unlikely repeal of the 2nd Amendment, I still think that my right to free speech, assemble, religion, and type silliness on the Dogfight Forum will still be there...

coop wrote: We can go round and round on this issue and everyone has there own opinion on this matter the last thing I will say on this issue is if you wanna own and play with assult wepons take the oath they will let you play with the good stuff all day long and when those same assault wepons are shooting back at ya your take on them will be quite different mine was.nothing like sweeping a corner and there's a 12 yrold kid with an ak waitting to take you out not knowing who your enemy is because they are all dressed in civilians clothes kinda sucks to all my veteran brothers you know what im talking about. Im sorry this post stirred up so much for some. ....peace dj

And not knowing if you should put the 12 year old down!, same stuff as Vietnam! Why are we such a stupid often in humane vicious species?
And yet we play this game with relish, shooting our friends down, that's because we know its a game and they don't get hurt for real. Speaking of games, I gave up on Assassins 3 for a few days (so full of bugs and glitches) went out and purchased Black Ops, having heard so much about it, played it in hardened skill level, finished it in one day, what was all the fuss about and all this talk of violent games making people go out and commit crime and kill, rubbish, I play lots of such games and have never felt the need to go out and kill some poor unsuspecting sob. Although I think rapists, drug dealers and peadophiles should be strung up from the nearest lamppost.

Jacklpe wrote: Europeans do have many similar freedoms. I will agree. They do not have the same rights and protections that we do though. As far as our nation being founded by criminals, maybe so, but there would be a lot of Europeans speaking German without us. Do I hunt? Yes. Do I eat what I kill? Certainly. But the second amendment is about so much more. It guarantees that our government will continue to be by, of, and for the people. If you look back at the most talented mass murderers of the 20th century, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao, you will see they understood what I am saying very well. All three, very early in their "terms" as leaders instituted gun bans, and confiscations. Armed people are free people. It's a simple as that. But as with any freedom, some will abuse it and give those who wish to end those freedoms all kinds of ammo for their arguments.

People so quickly forget history. I would live to play the "who said this" game and see how many guesses would come back as modern political figures. It's amazing how many lines from Mein Kampf could be mistaken for today's political rhetoric. Anyway, I'm probably not going to change anyone's mind, and I'd hate to wear out my newfound welcome around here.

Once again, have a great day.

Jacklpe

Boy, here I thought that it was the total abscence of any type of domestic opposition to Hitler, Mao, and Stalin, whether that be the rule of law, opposition parties, the ability to peacefully demonstrate, or to write about or petition the government without fear of repraisal. What the heck did I learn in school? Didn't know that it was only through the confiscation of personal firearms that kept those guys in power. Geez, IF ONLY their citizens had kept their weapons we might not have had WW2 or Stalin's purges, the Holocaust or the Cultural Revolution...And here I was thinking that it was our whole Constitution that ensures that the government stays of the people, by the people, and for the people.

I've never seen so many users showing up on the forum before, is this because nobody can get in game!? Next thing the whole forum is going to crash and we shall never know if wig pushed the wigapocalyps button!

Thank you Paul Momtz Jr. But I have a Class A uniform that I'm going to wear for my interview. Also looking forward to see all you M.O.M.s in the skies! Although I won't be up there long... Lol

Flyingmuck wrote: I've never seen so many users showing up on the forum before, is this because nobody can get in game!? Next thing the whole forum is going to crash and we shall never know if wig pushed the wigapocalyps button!

Same things i said never seen so many.


Wiggggg wyy u banned all of us wyyyyy?? Lol

have anyone been able to get in at all the last 4 hours?

It said account not found when I tried

Wig, you are being uncannily silent, are our fears realised, have you indeed begun the fateful countdown

Big Tex wrote:

Jacklpe wrote: Europeans do have many similar freedoms. I will agree. They do not have the same rights and protections that we do though. As far as our nation being founded by criminals, maybe so, but there would be a lot of Europeans speaking German without us. Do I hunt? Yes. Do I eat what I kill? Certainly. But the second amendment is about so much more. It guarantees that our government will continue to be by, of, and for the people. If you look back at the most talented mass murderers of the 20th century, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao, you will see they understood what I am saying very well. All three, very early in their "terms" as leaders instituted gun bans, and confiscations. Armed people are free people. It's a simple as that. But as with any freedom, some will abuse it and give those who wish to end those freedoms all kinds of ammo for their arguments.

People so quickly forget history. I would live to play the "who said this" game and see how many guesses would come back as modern political figures. It's amazing how many lines from Mein Kampf could be mistaken for today's political rhetoric. Anyway, I'm probably not going to change anyone's mind, and I'd hate to wear out my newfound welcome around here.

Once again, have a great day.

Jacklpe

Boy, here I thought that it was the total abscence of any type of domestic opposition to Hitler, Mao, and Stalin, whether that be the rule of law, opposition parties, the ability to peacefully demonstrate, or to write about or petition the government without fear of repraisal. What the heck did I learn in school? Didn't know that it was only through the confiscation of personal firearms that kept those guys in power. Geez, IF ONLY their citizens had kept their weapons we might not have had WW2 or Stalin's purges, the Holocaust or the Cultural Revolution...And here I was thinking that it was our whole Constitution that ensures that the government stays of the people, by the people, and for the people.

I am not saying there should be gun ban im mearly saying there are types of wepons that dont belong in the hands of civilians and assult wepons have NO place.you want to hunt and protect your family a revoler and a shotgun will do just fine, M4 why? besides even if there was a revolution trust me we would LOSE BIG even with our bushmasters and semi auto ak's the military has things you could only dream about.So please dont get me wrong I used to own many military guns from WW1 WW2 etc. but all they did was collect dust so i sold them, bought a nice remington 700 .308 and a punp shotgun and a .357 mag revolver. my second adnendment right, i need nothing more nor nothing less lol you all must be planning on the zombie hord to rush us thats the only thing you will need that bushmaster for.

peace coop

Just been reading a bit in the morning papers, seems even the pro gun lobby is backing up and calling for reform of the laws and tighter controls, even senators and congressmen who in the past have sided with NRA.

See, like I said, I'll never change the your opinions. I'm just either dumb or stubborn enough to keep replying. FYI... No bushmasters in my inventory. Anyway, if you believe that more gun laws are going to keep mass murderers at bay, good for you. We probably better ban fertilizer and box cutters while we are at it though. They killed a lot more people than some jerk in CT was able to the other day. In the mean time I'll agree to disagree I guess, b4 I completely wear out my welcome here. So much more I could say regarding acpeople's ability to be free and all, and to cite my earlier arguments, but why bother. I'll just be perfectly happy being the barbarian that apparently so many believe I am. Grrr. Hahaha. Maybe we'll get our game turned back on soon.

Jacklpe

Those senators u speak of would pass a law requiring all cats to be painted purple if it was politically expedient to them. And to Tex, I'd much prefer my chances against a guy with an AK vs a guy with a .308 that knew how to use it. Lots of rounds? Big deal. It's only the ones that actually hit you that matter.

Jacklpe wrote: See, like I said, I'll never change the your opinions. I'm just either dumb or stubborn enough to keep replying. FYI... No bushmasters in my inventory. Anyway, if you believe that more gun laws are going to keep mass murderers at bay, good for you. We probably better ban fertilizer and box cutters while we are at it though. They killed a lot more people than some jerk in CT was able to the other day. In the mean time I'll agree to disagree I guess, b4 I completely wear out my welcome here. So much more I could say regarding acpeople's ability to be free and all, and to cite my earlier arguments, but why bother. I'll just be perfectly happy being the barbarian that apparently so many believe I am. Grrr. Hahaha. Maybe we'll get our game turned back on soon.

Jacklpe

One thing you must understand you will not wear out your welcome here my friend we listen to all opinions we will all never agree on everything but thats what makes this squad so tight we will all listen so never fret that you cant speak your mind.right or wrong..hell you keep your shit up you will end up in one of my movie clips...lol

That's politicians world wide for you, that's governments world wide, the people don't count, just their own personnel agendas.

Which is why I don't believe in putting absolute trust in a government to protect the freedom of the people. The people need to be able to say "ok, enough". If they are disarmed, how are they going to do that? (think Tiananmen Square)