You can use it.....but I don't know if the origional photo's are Creative Commons.....(5 minutes with Gimp.)

We will not lose the name MOM, there will just be a slight reworking of it.
Nothing will be done until I know everyone is safely in MOMZILLA and the subsquads are deleted, meanwhile no further discussion should take place regarding name or logo change, that will come and involve you all. But now please get word out to other MOM's about joining MOMZILLA, that includes those still in the original MOM.

Sorry if it seems a bit harsh, there are reasons that I do not intend to go into here and now.

CRAZYWOLF wrote: Muck I'm not flying anymore but wishing you all the luck to pull this squad through. I'm still a MOM at heart so if I can do anything to help let me know.

Thanks Dave, would be nice if you hung around, even fly a little if you can.

For what it's worth how about R.O.M - Rump of MOM

Flying muck wrote: We will not lose the name MOM, there will just be a slight reworking of it.
Nothing will be done until I know everyone is safely in MOMZILLA and the subsquads are deleted, meanwhile no further discussion should take place regarding name or logo change, that will come and involve you all. But now please get word out to other MOM's about joining MOMZILLA, that includes those still in the original MOM.

Sorry if it seems a bit harsh, there are reasons that I do not intend to go into here and now.

Good enuf for me for now.

Thanks muck

Ok guys, while we are in the throes of migrating, I want to hear your views and maybe votes....Do you want to keep the name M.O.M. Do you want to retain the heart logo, minus its wings.
It's up to you guys, I'm probably putting my neck on the block, but seeing what some you are saying, I feel its your choice.
M.O.M or no.
Heart minus wings or no.

I know it goes against my previous post, but I get the feeling its something we need to tackle now.

change name to burrito

Would appreciate non squad members refraining from posting on this subject, thank you.

Flying muck wrote: Ok guys, while we are in the throes of migrating, I want to hear your views and maybe votes....Do you want to keep the name M.O.M. Do you want to retain the heart logo, minus its wings.
It's up to you guys, I'm probably putting my neck on the block, but seeing what some you are saying, I feel its your choice.
M.O.M or no.
Heart minus wings or no.

I know it goes against my previous post, but I get the feeling its something we need to tackle now.

in my humble openion nothing about this squad need change exept the logo, and even still it should change as little as possible. I see no problem with the name MOM, the rules as they have always been, star chamber ect. call me a purist but I say stck to what has worked for years and made us the most feared squad in this game

there needs to be a smooth transition and a bunch of change all at once will make us no different thatn the looney bin

Happy with MOM and the heart logo.
Change as little as possible.
Liked the insane blurb at the beginning which was what attracted me in the first place.
How difficult would it be to reinstate the map?
How big are we?
How many left when wig went?
Who is in the star chamber?
Do we need it?
I quite like Doggy's concept of heartless MOM
I miss my banner

As for the frontpage.....


Nice artwork............(but, I'm gonna 'but'

The Iron Cross could be earned by regular armed forces soldiers that showed bravoury for the Vaterland, so if no-one minds that.....OK...
...but it's a SS cap and collar she's wearing. You had to be a fanatic Nazi to get to wear that uniform.


We want to be heartless......But do we want to be thát heartless?

Hadn't noticed the Nazi regalia.
Definitely a NoNo for me!

GHOSTRIDER1 wrote:

Flying muck wrote: Ok guys, while we are in the throes of migrating, I want to hear your views and maybe votes....Do you want to keep the name M.O.M. Do you want to retain the heart logo, minus its wings.
It's up to you guys, I'm probably putting my neck on the block, but seeing what some you are saying, I feel its your choice.
M.O.M or no.
Heart minus wings or no.

I know it goes against my previous post, but I get the feeling its something we need to tackle now.

in my humble openion nothing about this squad need change exept the logo, and even still it should change as little as possible. I see no problem with the name MOM, the rules as they have always been, star chamber ect. call me a purist but I say stck to what has worked for years and made us the most feared squad in this game

there needs to be a smooth transition and a bunch of change all at once will make us no different thatn the looney bin

M.O.M YES!

Heart yes, no I don't really care. What is starting to get to me is all this we can or we can't do this, or we can or we can't use this crap. If this is all to appease someone's personal preference with no legal basis or ownership, I have a problem with that. Not having the basis for all this revealed may be the problem.

I would change as little as possible. Same rules, different faces. And as we transition forward, it needs to be the new faces that determine our direction.

Doggy Dix wrote:

Rudolf Rednose wrote: As for the frontpage.....


Nice artwork............(but, I'm gonna 'but'

The Iron Cross could be earned by regular armed forces soldiers that showed bravoury for the Vaterland, so if no-one minds that.....OK...
...but it's a SS cap and collar she's wearing. You had to be a fanatic Nazi to get to wear that uniform.


We want to be heartless......But do we want to be thát heartless?

yes u are quite right... and she have a MG 42 on her shoulders too...but she a innocent kid and when shes ready for Heartless Mom. she gonna be recast so its fits better whit our highstanding moral...good enough ? Ironcross WW1

psst i work on a storyline too how M.O.M became to be Heartless... The legend of Heartless M.o.M....

To show that I'm not just disagreeing, but also like to help a bit.....

Here's some things you might be able to use when touching that piece of ss up......so to speak:







Might come in handy. Searched under Royal Flying Corps,........google pictures.

Hi all.
4 me we have to respect the name M.O.M and the heart too.

MOM for me too!!

There's a lot of regular posting MOM's missing, if you see them in game, tell em to get their butts in here.

And I'm still hoping one if you can get a message to Delphi about resubmitting.
.

And forget to say...
Like the classy pinup too...
4 me we are M.O.M with heart n pinup
Thats it!!!
Real M.O.Ms

keep MOM name

rework of logo not that difficult

I'm in MOMzilla already...

Ok I am going to say my piece.....

As a member of Star Chamber I will say this.

"IT IS ALL HYPE"!!! Everything about star chamber has gotten so blown out of proportion, really to the point of it being the biggest example of telling a small child a story about the "Boogie Man" and then watching them run around and whisper stories to the friends about it! For me, as one that truly loved so much about this game and so many of the players here (M.O.M or other wise) it amazes me how many still keep the legacy of Star Chamber going!

I am going to let you in on a little secret....... (Keep it to yourself....)

Star Chamber.......... Well.......... I hate to say this (sorry guys) IT IS A BUNCH OF BORING OLD HENS BITCHING ABOUT A BUNCH OF NOTHING!!!!! It's true!

Some of you here can already see.... YOU JUST CAN NOT SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT ABOUT ANYONE YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT..... (Confusing.....?)

Like this.... Say some dude wants to be a shithead and work his way into some ones email and do bad things with it? Matter if fact let's use "YOUR E-MAIL" for this example!!! So "YOU" are approached by a player needing help with their squad. You do what you can to help, in doing this, you unknowingly allowed them to see private conversations, filled with bad words, naked women, things said about people they don't like, ect.
However......
Many good, helpful, wonderful things, were said, that shows how much, effort, and kindness a group of players has put into helping, friends, other squads, the developer, and on and on.
Just like any one of us. We all at one point or another, have said or acted, around a small group of, understanding family, or friends in a way we would not act out in public (if you are one that is so perfect, you have never found yourself in this situation? GOD will be very pleased with you or you are a good bull shatter.)

So now, that "one" you have helped uses this time as a good one to, show small bits and pieces of "The Not So Nice Things" that you have said, of course not showing the "Good and Helpful" things that you have done or said. In turn making you out to be some kind of "Monster Of Men" hiding in the shadows, only there to do bad...
Well now that, this has happened to you!!!!!!!!!

I bet you would like to say "What a low life, scum sucking, bottom feeder, ass hole, shit head, fuckwit, cockbite, prick that person is". Well that is something you most likely would not be allowed to say here on forum, so that is when a more private group that says "Real Poopy Stinky" words about assholes like, the one that just fucked you, by smearing your private emails around, comes into play.....
I am by far, not the best example of a wholesome character.... I like to curse, fart real loud, shoot snot rocket, spit, look at nudie pictures of women, poke fun at people I don't like, and call an asshole a "asshole" when the are being an asshole!

Every group has some form of hierarchy. (Don't let them fool yah) and they all have some way of communication, other then talking shit here on forum (so don't be buffaloed) just watch how many tears get kicked up because, I said it, like I say it!

Judge yourself on the context of your character! If you are so quick to haul ass, as soon as your crew gets rocked a little bit? Well I am one to say "Thank You" and at least we are learning who we can count on when we are "Down and Out"!

Muck is running things!
Have some CODE and support him!
Or shut your "suck" and piss off!!!

P.s. Hope you all have a very nice day

Heh. He said poopy

Well Star Chamber was here long before I, or me, or thou....? I was the sort of fellow they thought, could handle a fart joke or two. I am pretty sure tho....... I am powerless over the ability to change the name of Star Chamber..... I do hope that you can find it in your heartlessness to understand, "some stuff we/us/you/me just can't control" so we/us/you/me just carry on or.... Sometimes I like to find a corner to sit in, till my overwhelming urge to pout, subsides......

Doggy Dix wrote:

YEMX wrote: Well Star Chamber was here long before I, or me, or thou....? I was the sort of fellow they thought, could handle a fart joke or two. I am pretty sure tho....... I am powerless over the ability to change the name of Star Chamber..... I do hope that you can find it in your heartlessness to understand, "some stuff we/us/you/me just can't control" so we/us/you/me just carry on or.... Sometimes I like to find a corner to sit in, till my overwhelming urge to pout, subsides......

very possible that the changing nature but if you check the front page now Kasey posted seen that ((The Star Chamber (look it up)
MOM's board of admissions)) how the hell should I interpret this, however. It's a vomit chamber or read what it says ...

the concept of the heartless, you have no idea what that means, but still drag conclusions and use it ironic to flatten me ... that could be completely wrong, think about it. When I'm finished with it I will post it for assessment so do not judge yet ... you may change your mind then ...

Ummmm
I dragged no one. From my "very" poor view... You jumped in with both feet! I did not direct/quote/copy and or past any of your quotes, as if it offended me in some way shape or form. I made a very open broad statement, that you "quoted" and responded to! If that has offended you and you took this as me directing it at just you.... I can not help that?

Now let me go read the first page so "I" can correct myself if need be.....

Flying muck wrote: There's a lot of regular posting MOM's missing, if you see them in game, tell em to get their butts in here.

And I'm still hoping one if you can get a message to Delphi about resubmitting.
.

I saw Lapa and filled him in on making the jump.

Doggy Dix wrote:

YEMX wrote:

Doggy Dix wrote:

YEMX wrote: Well Star Chamber was here long before I, or me, or thou....? I was the sort of fellow they thought, could handle a fart joke or two. I am pretty sure tho....... I am powerless over the ability to change the name of Star Chamber..... I do hope that you can find it in your heartlessness to understand, "some stuff we/us/you/me just can't control" so we/us/you/me just carry on or.... Sometimes I like to find a corner to sit in, till my overwhelming urge to pout, subsides......

very possible that the changing nature but if you check the front page now Kasey posted seen that ((The Star Chamber (look it up)
MOM's board of admissions)) how the hell should I interpret this, however. It's a vomit chamber or read what it says ...

the concept of the heartless, you have no idea what that means, but still drag conclusions and use it ironic to flatten me ... that could be completely wrong, think about it. When I'm finished with it I will post it for assessment so do not judge yet ... you may change your mind then ...

Ummmm
I dragged no one. From my "very" poor view... You jumped in with both feet! I did not direct/quote/copy and or past any of your quotes, as if it offended me in some way shape or form. I made a very open broad statement, that you "quoted" and responded to! If that has offended you and you took this as me directing it at just you.... I can not help that?

Now let me go read the first page so "I" can correct myself if need be.....

When its ready i post it... meanwhile, You can search after that corner now...

For a touchy fellow, you sure do like to fire off the shots! (I LIKE IT!!!!!)

I just don't want to be held accountable for "YOUR FEELING'S" every time, I want to play along with all this "BACK AND FORTH"

Doggy Dix wrote:

YEMX wrote:

Doggy Dix wrote:

YEMX wrote:

Doggy Dix wrote:

YEMX wrote: Well Star Chamber was here long before I, or me, or thou....? I was the sort of fellow they thought, could handle a fart joke or two. I am pretty sure tho....... I am powerless over the ability to change the name of Star Chamber..... I do hope that you can find it in your heartlessness to understand, "some stuff we/us/you/me just can't control" so we/us/you/me just carry on or.... Sometimes I like to find a corner to sit in, till my overwhelming urge to pout, subsides......

very possible that the changing nature but if you check the front page now Kasey posted seen that ((The Star Chamber (look it up)
MOM's board of admissions)) how the hell should I interpret this, however. It's a vomit chamber or read what it says ...

the concept of the heartless, you have no idea what that means, but still drag conclusions and use it ironic to flatten me ... that could be completely wrong, think about it. When I'm finished with it I will post it for assessment so do not judge yet ... you may change your mind then ...

Ummmm
I dragged no one. From my "very" poor view... You jumped in with both feet! I did not direct/quote/copy and or past any of your quotes, as if it offended me in some way shape or form. I made a very open broad statement, that you "quoted" and responded to! If that has offended you and you took this as me directing it at just you.... I can not help that?

Now let me go read the first page so "I" can correct myself if need be.....

When its ready i post it... meanwhile, You can search after that corner now...

For a touchy fellow, you sure do like to fire off the shots! (I LIKE IT!!!!!)

I just don't want to be held accountable for "YOUR FEELING'S" every time, I want to play along with all this "BACK AND FORTH"

hehe I was a redhead when I was really small ... seems to be little of it remains under the ashes

Well I have always had a SOFT spot for redheads!

"GROUP HUG"?

Is the game real laggy or is it just me?

I have not been able to find a server that is not laggy for me (going on months now). Others are saying they have been having lagg free games. So..... Is their like a bathing process, I can go thru, or a deodorant I can use, so I don't stink so much?

I am using an ipad
I have great signal
I refuse to pay (once I can play along, that will change) pissing in the wind is fun, but I would not pay to do it!!!!!

YEMX wrote: Is the game real laggy or is it just me?

I have not been able to find a server that is not laggy for me (going on months now). Others are saying they have been having lagg free games. So..... Is their like a bathing process, I can go thru, or a deodorant I can use, so I don't stink so much?

I am using an ipad
I have great signal
I refuse to pay (once I can play along, that will change) pissing in the wind is fun, but I would not pay to do it!!!!!

Maybe you havent got the most current update yet. I'm only about 5 days into laggyless games. Apple takes about a week. I seen zebra lagging all over the place the other day too. But hes windows.

YEMX wrote: Well Star Chamber was here long before I, or me, or thou....? I was the sort of fellow they thought, could handle a fart joke or two. I am pretty sure tho....... I am powerless over the ability to change the name of Star Chamber..... I do hope that you can find it in your heartlessness to understand, "some stuff we/us/you/me just can't control" so we/us/you/me just carry on or.... Sometimes I like to find a corner to sit in, till my overwhelming urge to pout, subsides......

No pouting allowed except at specified pouting times