So just to clarify as much as possible,

Zup does not seem to want to make the rules hard lines. He doesn't say "Do it once and you're out."

Also from Let people take off (By zuperman) :

zuperman wrote: ... From my point of view spawn killing is bad, period. No excuse for it. Everybody does it eventually because it just happen but setting a rule to when it is ok is completely unnecessary.
It is like cursing. You do it from time to time and nobody will say anything... Now go in a cursing tirade and you get banned.

And he also doesn't seem to think it's necessary to line out rules to cover every situation:


From Zuperman-Kindly Clarify? :

zuperman wrote: ...The idea is very simple: anything that could ruin the game for you or other players if repeated constantly is not allowed...

Do we really need to spell out a rule book when you know you are ruining the game for all the other team? If you know it is ruining the game, you know it is wrong. Trying to excuse it with: where are the rules? It's like pissing on the kitchen of a bar and say that there is no sign saying it's forbidden.

I wish he would make an official "Dogfight Game Rules" post and put an end to threads like this.
Something like:

[NLR] McFate wrote:
"Rules for playing Dogfight"

Anyone who plays in a way that takes unfair advantage of other players may be subject to discipline. Things that are "unfair" should be common sense such as: don't shoot blue teammates or bomb your own hangars, don't shoot planes before they can take off, or don't take advantage of glitches for which there is no defense. The game has been designed to allow for many different play styles and everyone is free to play as they wish as long as it does not prevent others from playing a fair game.

Foul language is not allowed. Many bad words will trigger an automatic mute. Using alternative spellings to avoid the filters or making vulgar descriptions is also forbidden.

Complaints may be made against players by using the in-game reporting system by clicking on their name in the in-game score board or on world chat. A single or an occasional report will be unlikely to trigger any disciplinary action but a pattern of abuse will earn consequences.

If you play so that others may have fun, you will have fun.

Ah........A mediocre or new player finally making it to the enemy base through the endless head ons.....isn't he pardonned for letting his frustration go a a bit, and enjoying his short lasting edge he has over those bullies that harassed him all the way over there?

He'll down you some times, then gets shot down.....and it will all start again.

In Dogfight missions, Capture the flag, Zep games it's no issue.....just in Bomb da Base or Carrier.

It's not worth the making of rules against camping.

Better players are better than this,......they don't need to camp all the time.

That we are longer immune during take off is a good enough help to stop the spawnkillers and the campers.

(With any luck, in DF2 we are going to get anti aircraft guns, barrage balloons and all of that good things that will make us all ever so happy.)

I will do same thing cause ive dropped bombs and left many times and what does enemy do follow you and try to shoot you as your leaving...so I will fly over and shoot Enemy until I feel im clear to leave..its simple and if they call that camping .....then they can stop shooting as im leaving ...I call it defending myself...TY MEAN FOKKER

Dognamitt wrote: i know nine buddy i turn round and head for home after i bomb sumtimes ill pick the plane off as he takes off (not spawned i let him up)but if hes gonna shoot me on my retreat i have hno choice but defend myself