Ok this goes way.past black list. Jumped into a game only to be sk by schnell and ez. Ez crashed trying to sk but schnell kept going. There is no freaking need to hang behind a base when there's no one there but for the obligation. Purpose but to sk. Balfour came in and got Tue same treatment. That's is the lowest form of df pilot there is way below someone dropping when its 6/2. All I can say is scum bags. You have not honor no guts no pride what so ever. If that is the way you get points. You just suck

Lol the great camping debate. ..the best way to stop a camper is mid field dont let them reach your base...but with that being said when you go bomb and your leaving you get shot down easy kill right so it goes both ways really.If im leaving and you fire on me im gonna turn around and light you up lol

My personal method:
If I'm being camped, I lock my brake and go full throttle. My propellers start turning, and I'm not yet moving. Just as I start to tilt forward, I release the brake and spit out onto the runway many times faster than I would. As soon as I have clearance, I drop my bomb, and instead of turn fighting, I attempt to quickly spiral away from my base. If I time it right, they won't catch me until I'm a nice distance away. I Respawn immediately, with then farther away from my runway, and try them head-on, or turn them again. Their choice. I'll get them eventually though. Or, if I'm bored with it, I just quit.
If I'm flying away, and they shoot at me, I quickly turn, light them up, and spiral away. Repeat as many times as necessary. Or, if I'm on a good team, I'll twirl to the back of the map, a kind of indirect cover for teammates.
In a Btc game, I bomb, then spin around the carrier, not shooting, in order to get shot down next to the carrier and hopefully unload a tank shell into the carrier.
But I absolutely refuse to camp in a bombing mission. I hate the feeling of being camped, and I'd never stoop so low as to fall to their level. I've been known to reward myself with one free kill before my retreat though....
To each his own.

Ya know, I am sick to death of these hypocrites in this game. They drop, camp and spawnkill left and right and say its tatics. Then whine like little bitches when it's done to them. They go off crying to a mod saying they did nothing wrong that so and so started it and that said pilot walks away Scott free while the one who was returning the favor gets a ban. Well we all know who I'm talking about here! Some pilots get away with what ever they want, claiming that an ex mod and zuperman will laugh it off the black list because of that said pilots squad. I strike that very funny, but true. Now there are no mod but one and zuperman himself to control the black list.

Which brings me to this! Is there that one squad and pilots that Zuperman favors? That will never get banned for anything they do, but so eager to point out that other pilots return the favor and get get banned for it! Well I don't think Zuperman has a favorite pilot or squad now, except his own! But this said squad still gets by with this, and now so does a lot of pilots.

I was asked in a few games if I was dropping. I simply said yes. To defend my own area. I mean my side was out numbered. Then being told that was wrong I should never drop no matter what! Then that pilots quoted me rule 12. Lol a non Misfit telling me this! So I reminded that pilots that my side was out numbered so I will drop to protect. Then all the reds dropped and came over talk about funny. After shooting them all down I was informed that I was being reported for dropping. Lol wth? Any ways like I was saying, why do some pilots get by with it, when others don't? Well I say if your gonna ban me for camping on a camper, dropping a dropper, spawnkilling a spawnkiller then ban them too. Why be a damn hypocrite about it? No matter what squad they are from. So here's a little song for those said pilots.


Just saying!!

Well said....ive seen some favorites within the game and ive been saying it so im very glad someone else noticed...

Ok gunner if I might point out I spawned into the game with these two a@@ hats already behind the base waiting for someone to show up. Its not like I was there and they came and camped. They were camping behind the base waiting for anyone that showed up the only reason ez crashed was I was shot down with my wheels just off the ground and jumped and ez hit my chute. And every time I spawned the Eyre rounds already coming at me from behind. Try reading the post before you post thank you

I read your post and was pointing out to others and im sure they were camped out but no need to be smart with me "I didnt do it"!When you post others are gonna post right thats what the forums for.How about re reading my post before you post.

They didn't make you release your brakes, Darraxx. Use better judgement next time you see enemies circling your base. It's a part of the game.

Ok so I'm..just supposed to sit there atleast give a Guy. A chance to defend his base. Its not my style to not give a fight. But really let a person up don't camp behind his base waiting to sk like i said they were behind the base already there was no other blues. I'm sorry it ticked me off you know me cricket I wont back down from a fight. But.this is low low.low. and they just stayed behind they base I wanted to lead them.away and i did try only to run into a dropper. The game was 5/1 just to let you know. Hell I never even.had enough high to get did of my bomb

Oooowwwww

Its not the same camping, and an a spawnkiller. It's not the same dropper and a camper, it's not the same your skills when you can't shoot down a camper and the skills of a camper who is fighting vs all the reds and you still can't shoot them down. If you can't, then you can't !!

And sorry Gosth, if you don't know what it's the difference between a tactic and a cheating. Your rules it's not the rules of all the game. And be careful when you make cursings

It's the only way some can earn kills.

camping is actually a tactic.. im not referring to severely out numbered games but even or close to even games. I say its a tactic because in real life back during WW1 if the planes reached the enemy base they where going to wait until the enemy took of then they would shoot them but they never killed a un Mobil target because that was dishonorable to kill a grounded aircraft with a pilot in it and why wouldn't you camp? the point is to bomb the hangars so if one pilot makes it to the base you can be sure he's going to hold off the enemy as long as it takes until the rest of the bombers arrive to finish the job its just like sneaking (I don't sneak because it takes to long) but sneaking is a tactic... its not being a coward but its flying smart why fly where the enemy is going to be and risk the possibility of being shot down ? go around and successfully drop your bomb then engage in combat with the enemy.

and if you are dealing with a "camper" its simply your fault for letting him reach your base/carrier so as Cricket said "They didn't make you release your brakes" so you shouldn't complain when your aware of the situation and you take off.

*[M]VonHulk wrote: It's the only way some can earn kills.

No hulk, face to face its the only way so many can earn kills, and when some one dont do that, make a topic complaining about " why no all te pilots make my style ?!"

Many of droppers drop because they are new in the game. Or make a spawnkiller because they don't know about that. And so many make only one tactic, one style because everbody only do that

[LF^]Mr.Becken wrote: camping is actually a tactic.. im not referring to severely out numbered games but even or close to even games. I say its a tactic because in real life back during WW1 if the planes reached the enemy base they where going to wait until the enemy took of then they would shoot them but they never killed a un Mobil target because that was dishonorable to kill a grounded aircraft with a pilot in it and why wouldn't you camp? the point is to bomb the hangars so if one pilot makes it to the base you can be sure he's going to hold off the enemy as long as it takes until the rest of the bombers arrive to finish the job its just like sneaking (I don't sneak because it takes to long) but sneaking is a tactic... its not being a coward but its flying smart why fly where the enemy is going to be and risk the possibility of being shot down ? go around and successfully drop your bomb then engage in combat with the enemy.

and if you are dealing with a "camper" its simply your fault for letting him reach your base/carrier so as Cricket said "They didn't make you release your brakes" so you shouldn't complain when your aware of the situation and you take off.

The problem with it is that since this is a game and not a matter of life and death, it turns people off the game. People spawn killing is one of the reasons why we now have servers for new pilots then servers for the rest. Being relentlessly SKed by someone makes people leave the game, they don't buy or keep playing and Zup lost a potential sale, which limits his ability to invest in more improvements.

In the real world you would die once and wouldn't care after that. In the game you can be stuck for so long you just give up, especially when there are 2-3 SKers since they always will have you in their sights. It usually isn't to help them win the game, since none of them has bombs, it's just to boost their stats.

Well, i dont know why its not possible make tactics in a game of tactics, why no use a air combat manouvers in a game of air combat!?

So many say " its just a game" but when they can't shoot down a camper ( I repeat, a camper no make sk) they say " it's a coward!, " then? Why you get mad ? It's just a game?!

And no matter the lvl of the pilot, no one know about the rules if they don't get in to the forum. And even worse, some rules it's not rules of the game, so many rules are relative , subjective for each pilot.

Looks like if some one can't not shoot Dow a few pilots, must make a rule to make it possible

I agree camping is tactic most of the time and like Becken said if youre at their base its your job to hold them off until your team arrives. If you go into a match and see Reds all around your base already just leave, why bother staying if you know you will be shot down right away, its not your fault the team that was there before you came in got smoked and let Reds get to there base and then they all quit. I personally dont really complain about campers I just leave my brakes on for a minute or two and if I see I wont have an opening to take off, I leave. Good luck everyone and happy flying.

£ | Ziza | wrote:

*[M]VonHulk wrote: It's the only way some can earn kills.

No hulk, face to face its the only way so many can earn kills, and when some one dont do that, make a topic complaining about " why no all te pilots make my style ?!"

Many of droppers drop because they are new in the game. Or make a spawnkiller because they don't know about that. And so many make only one tactic, one style because everbody only do that

I can play either way, But im not after cheap kills. I drop my bomb and go reload, I dont hang around, never have. Call it what you want, tactics or cheap kills. Its all the same to me. Campers or Spawnkillers, It just slows down the game. Bombs still have to be dropped.

£ | Ziza | wrote:

*[M]VonHulk wrote: It's the only way some can earn kills.

No hulk, face to face its the only way so many can earn kills, and when some one dont do that, make a topic complaining about " why no all te pilots make my style ?!"

Many of droppers drop because they are new in the game. Or make a spawnkiller because they don't know about that. And so many make only one tactic, one style because everbody only do that

I enjoy the different styles of playing this game. If everyone flies straight down the middle it would get old quick. Its the few who choose to go after cheap kills. Not letting a pilot get off the ground and turn to defend themselves, camping i can defend. Being shot in the back over and over, thats a cowards way to play.

The best way to stop camping is not not shoot retreating planes.

and folks....Camping and Spawnkilling are not the same thing.....Spawnkilling is way worse. and we really need to understand the differences in the terms or pilots will continue to be falsely accused of spawnkilling when spawnkilling and camping are different.

We could also bring up Zuperman saying that it was his intention for pilots after bombing to "stick around a little bit".....and we know Zuperman doesnt approve of spawnkilling by putting in the immunity (which I believe should be at all ranks but thats for another day)

Camping and spawnkilling are specifically defined and mustn't consider them the same thing when in fact they are different.

Dont hate the players,Hate the game!!!Different strokes for different folks!!!!Point being everyone plays the game how they chose thats why most of us styles are know to others!!And this thread wont change a thing...I know alot of morafs that camp and honestly campings not against any rules so how in the hell can a person complain???Same thing as dropp8ng your bomb and as you leave someone takes off and shoots you in the back right??Wrong!!!!!Ive entered many games with campers and trust me I get up!!!But no need to throw insults at people for doing it "Its part of the game"!!!!

Gunnerz....fyi I dont camp unless a pilot is attempting to shoot me down when I'm retreating to my base to reload.

The greatest and best way to get rid of camping is to stop attempting to shoot down retreating pilots....(period)

|111th|tSwopCaml wrote: Gunnerz....fyi I dont camp unless a pilot is attempting to shoot me down when I'm retreating to my base to reload.

The greatest and best way to get rid of camping is to stop attempting to shoot down retreating pilots....(period)

Not every pilot retreats. Sticking around and keeping the enemy tied up or grounded is an effective way to assist your teammates in.

The best way to stop campers is to stop their advancement before they get a chance.

Ok one more time there were no other pilots on my side the two pilots were waiting for anyone that spawned. They were behind the base with no of their team even close to half way point I was shot as soon as I appeared they were waiting for people to spawn so they could kill them that's not tactics that's spawn killing get it I could not get off the ground. Yes supporting incoming planes is good. When there a plane coming in that's fine by me but you can't sit there and say waiting behind a base for someone to spawn so you can kill them on the ground is ok

"I couldnt get off the ground"..

and thats spawnkilling....not camping.....theres a difference.

Figures Cricket you would be on the wignana

What are you talking about?

I beg to differ, there were plenty of aircraft and people gunned down before they ever took off. If enemy got to your base they were not goin to fly around and wait on you to take off are you kidding me

|111th|tSwopCaml wrote: Gunnerz....fyi I dont camp unless a pilot is attempting to shoot me down when I'm retreating to my base to reload.

The greatest and best way to get rid of camping is to stop attempting to shoot down retreating pilots....(period)

lol fyi???Swop I dont believe I was talking to you or even said anything about or to you??But thanks for setting me straight on your point of hmmm what was your point again???I just made a statement not towards anyone but either way this thread is pointless becouse peoples gonna play how they play and again CAMPINGS NOT AGAINST RULES OR IS IT BANNABLE. ...PERIOD!!

Lmao still scratching my head wondering whats swops deal????lmao!!!!

Cricket wrote:

|111th|tSwopCaml wrote: Gunnerz....fyi I dont camp unless a pilot is attempting to shoot me down when I'm retreating to my base to reload.

The greatest and best way to get rid of camping is to stop attempting to shoot down retreating pilots....(period)

Not every pilot retreats. Sticking around and keeping the enemy tied up or grounded is an effective way to assist your teammates in.

The best way to stop campers is to stop their advancement before they get a chance.

Very true Cricket, but the difference between you and the other who you camp on, once you get camped on you cry foul play and leave game. Most stay and fight. But it is what it is. Just my two cents!