WULF{WP***} wrote: Guys n girls , time to talk about the members joining other squads like lis

W all know squadron wars are coming many players are rushing to create a ready built squadron

So who really are wolfs and who are fake wannabes, I'm surprised Cush has gone but we need to adapt and overcome
Yes even I get frustrated that very little is done to move us over to élite the games new home
I am a wolf if u ain't get out my cave coz its feeding time
I could rant and rave but we get know where
I am a wolf and I stand and fly with Viper with pride

Wulf, I understand and I get a little saddened when we lose guys like Cush and TX. But I would never put them in the category of fakes.
Those 2 dudes are awesome.
At the end of the day we just have to realize that this is just a game and be glad when we still see them in the skies.

WULF{WP***} wrote: Guys n girls , time to talk about the members joining other squads like lis

W all know squadron wars are coming many players are rushing to create a ready built squadron

So who really are wolfs and who are fake wannabes, I'm surprised Cush has gone but we need to adapt and overcome
Yes even I get frustrated that very little is done to move us over to élite the games new home
I am a wolf if u ain't get out my cave coz its feeding time
I could rant and rave but we get know where
I am a wolf and I stand and fly with Viper with pride

*spoken slowly, deeply, with my Texas draw*

Yep, and I've killed every one of them, more than they've killed me. I'm a killer, I've been getting too soft in this cage, in the back of a hanger shuffling papers.

What Wulf said offends me greatly he is now talking about my integrity. To be perfectly frank it is stuff like this that makes me want to do my own thing! I would not have any one on my squad like that. I like Viper very much it has nothing to do with standing with Viper Wulf. Wrong choice of words. Trust me I will never get in your way. I will remember you said that!!!

TX Constable wrote: What Wulf said offends me greatly he is now talking about my integrity. To be perfectly frank it is stuff like this that makes me want to do my own thing! I would not have any one on my squad like that. I like Viper very much it has nothing to do with standing with Viper Wulf. Wrong choice of words. Trust me I will never get in your way. I will remember you said that!!!

Well TX, aren't you doing your own thing? Goodluck my friend.

Yes Skeeter but the context offends me. I have not EVER harmed anyone! Really wannabes well sir if you think that way Good Luck to you as well. Remember I did not draw first blood!!! I have been talked down to on here before and always had the utmost respect for everyone. Oh yes I am going to do my own thing fellow Texan. I have been setting in back as well. I guess we will see what happens. Just remember everyone is accountable for thier words. Wulf did not say that right and disrespected me and Cush. So tell me I am wrong?

TX Constable wrote: What Wulf said offends me greatly he is now talking about my integrity. To be perfectly frank it is stuff like this that makes me want to do my own thing! I would not have any one on my squad like that. I like Viper very much it has nothing to do with standing with Viper Wulf. Wrong choice of words. Trust me I will never get in your way. I will remember you said that!!!

Wow wow, my words were not meant to offened just wake a slumbering pack , coz if great players like yourself and Cush keep leaving , there will be no heart and soul left

But I have nothing against players changing squads , go where your heart is

But I'm glad I know the true wolfs , for they get my respect , my time and my heart

Did the sky just come crashing down. What in the heck happened.

Good luck TX and Cush. And I would like to say that the gate to our den has Way more claw marks on the outside than in!

Cypher7{WP*} wrote: Did the sky just come crashing down. What in the heck happened.

Its a long story, but one worth telling.

In the beginning when I first joined, WP was a difficult squad to get into. The recruitment guidelines were strictly adhered to. No welcome post, no WP. Invite only, and the only one who could or would invite was Digger. After much discussion we, the Pack, decided to expand the membership and loosened our recruitment guidelines. The Pack grew faster, but with faster growth comes a greater possibility the recruits were not going to be loyal, play within our guidelines, etc. Player turnover became a small issue, but with that comes the realization that attrition is actually healthy because it tends to retain only the most loyal Wolves.

Nothing against Cush, TX, and it would seem Huck eventually, but the fact of the matter is their decision to leave us speaks to their loyalty to our squad and only our squad. They are great folks and great friends and the fact that they are leaving doesn't change who they are, nor does it bring their integrity into question, at least not in my mind. All we can do is wish them well and thank them for their service to Wolf Pack.

So what's the answer about the attrition then? Well, based on my experience I would say that if we continue to try to grow, we will have attrition. It comes with the territory. Should we tighten our recruitment guidelines back to the way they were? That would make acceptance to WP more difficult and lessen the likelihood of losing close friends, members of our family if you will, when they leave the squad. Is there a better way to gauge a persons loyalty prior to acceptance? I don't have a ready answer for these questions because I believe it is a balance between growth rate and getting only folks who will be here for the long haul, through the tough times and the good times.

We should all understand that there is no way I know of to predict how long a player will be a satisfied member of Wolf Pack, and want to stick around. Some folks decide they want to have their own squad to manage, others want to go where their friends are, and others just like to be around the big time personalities.... like hanging out with the cool kids as it were. So we have to take attrition in stride and each one of us make their own decision to stay or go as circumstances dictate. Even though I take it personal when any Wolf leaves us, I think its very important to respect their individual decisions. You all know we recruit top notch players and top notch people. They are still top notch folks even if they move on to greener pastures. We have lost some really good folks along the way and while each one stings I realize that is more my own pride stinging than anything since these folks were considered my friends. As my friends, they are entitled and encouraged to be happy in any of their endeavors, including a new squad. It's always tough but not a show-stopper.

My personal policy, and this isn't written anywhere, is the circumstances surrounding a member leaving dictate whether or not they would be allowed to rejoin the Pack. Its is a case-by-case basis I make those decisions carefully because at the end of the day loyalty is a wolf trait we try to emphasize. I am not a fan of squad-hoppers as it were, and we have rejected folks for being squad-hoppers because as such their loyalty comes into question.

When the dust settles we should be left with a roster with players who want to be here, are happy here, and are loyal to Wolf Pack. That is the best we can hope for and exactly what we want in our squad. The way I see it we are stronger at the end of the day rather than weaker. We sure still have some very deadly, very talented, and very personable people on our roster. People I am happy to call friends and brothers in arms.

I salute each and every one of you, past and present wolves, and gladly stand beside each one of our current wolves.

TX, Cush, Huck (maybe) I wish you the best. Happy hunting my friends and thanks for being a part of Wolf Pack.

Excellent post Viper, that's why you get paid the big bucks....er, so to speak.

Unfortunately I need to explain a former post , will say strait away I meant no disrespect to former wolves. I meant squadron wars is coming , so a active deadley squadron will thrive thro the changes ,
But it will mean like most other app games players will make multiple accounts and use some as spy accounts use them to cause havoc cause doubt , and play to make other squadrons look bad its actually thesse fakes I refer to
The pack has been trying to evolve to elite as DF is to apparently die out , I know the true old school are probably not exactly happy
Also I know we have had a rush of recruits but all are vetted by us all
But unfortunately the game brings changes so we must adapt and overcome
We are the WOLF PACK

Thank you Viper. Well said. It does sting though..... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

This is one of the hardest things I've ever had to do.. Ii'm leaving the Squad as well.. You're right guys, there is something else, and everyone needs to know this is not about you as individuals. It has to do with poor treatment of someone I care about, who had sent PM's to top management with a valid request, heard nothing for close to a week, except a "nasty directive" from one of them.. No names here, please know if you didn't recieve a PM from one of the departed, and more importantly didn't send back a directive then it's not about you..

Wulf, I cringed when I read your comments as well, I believe you now that you didn't mean them, but you said them, and these are no wana be's.. there wonderful good friends of mine that deserve better treatment, these are men who have cared about you, so please think about what and how you say things in the future..

Viper, echoing what TX said about absolutely no hard feelings are upset with you my friend, you remain the best thing that's ever happened to WP..

Sometimes in life you have to chose between an entity that you care about, and friends.. If you love those friends you chose them.. This is hard because you all matter to me, very much, and very hard.. But I have two dear friends who I love and admire that come first.. Good by all

Wow anther top player and one close to me ....a player that actually cares about us all

padre I know nothing u talk about , but I always thought this was a family and all probs cauld be sorted

I will miss u and our chats .....whats more the pack will miss u

Come on all lets get everything sorted

Ok guys I have an announcement to make too. I'm in for the long haul!!!!!Bring on the squad wars!!!awoooooooo...awwww....awwwww.aWooooooooooooo |><]!

This a picture of the accident yesterday at Work. Always be aware of your surroundings at work.

Had a great game last night with Quilby and Mean on red team, among others. Quilby has really blossomed into a terrific wolf/pilot, in my opinion. Just to give you all an idea of how intense it was, it was 45 minutes before I broke the ice and got the first hangar on either side! I was by myself for stretches in the game, and I was soooo glad when CC Rider showed up. He really helped. If you look at my kdr, you can tell I was everyone's favorite target, lol! I'm still not sure how we lost, but it was ferocious, that's for sure. Owwwwoooooohhhhhhhh!

Well said Cypher , we all take day to day for granted . I hope players take note of how easy it is for our world to be turned upside down

Also shows the power to overcome and to work together to put things right

In life its important to work together

Nice work Dunc. Ya Quilby is a deadly pilot. Keep up the good work Quilby. And fly with Dunc as much as you can. He has lots of skill and lots to share.

Had a great game last night with Quilby and Mean on red team, among others. Quilby has really blossomed into a terrific wolf/pilot, in my opinion. Just to give you all an idea of how intense it was, it was 45 minutes before I broke the ice and got the first hangar on either side! I was by myself for stretches in the game, and I was soooo glad when CC Rider showed up. He really helped. If you look at my kdr, you can tell I was everyone's favorite target, lol! I'm still not sure how we lost, but it was ferocious, that's for sure. Owwwwoooooohhhhhhhh![/quote]

This is an official announcement of promotions within Hunting Group Bravo. I am pleased to promote each of the following pilots due to meritorious service, both up in the skies of DogFight as well as in the Forum and World Chat:

DogWolf is raised to Air Marshal

uberculture is raised to Air Marshal

White Fang is raised to Group Captain

pmoon1 is raised to Group Captain

Cypher7 is raised to Wing Commander

Silver Scar is raised to Wing Commander

Ocd 4 Free is raised to Wing Commander

Congratulations to each of the pilots so honored. Now go up there and make me proud! Owwwwwwoooooooohhhhhhh!

By direction,

Dunc7, OIC, HGB, WP

Dunc7 wrote: This is an official announcement of promotions within Hunting Group Bravo. I am pleased to promote each of the following pilots due to meritorious service, both up in the skies of DogFight as well as in the Forum and World Chat:

DogWolf is raised to Air Marshal

uberculture is raised to Air Marshal

White Fang is raised to Group Captain

pmoon1 is raised to Group Captain

Cypher7 is raised to Wing Commander

Silver Scar is raised to Wing Commander

Ocd 4 Free is raised to Wing Commander

Congratulations to each of the pilots so honored. Now go up there and make me proud! Owwwwwwoooooooohhhhhhh!

By direction,

Dunc7, OIC, HGB, WP

Congrats my fellow wolves all very well earned , great to see your loyalties rewarded AaooooooooooOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Thank you. And I Salute to all Wolf Pack pilots. Fly proud. Fly High. Fly with honour. And shoot all reds to little tiny pieces of Wolf Kibble. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I have just caught up on the recent defections from our beloved Wolf Pack and, I must admit, I'm shocked! What on earth would be the reason for going elsewhere? Viper isn't as good looking as Lil (sorry, Boss), but I'd rather have him at my side in a fight up there any day! As to the Padre's cryptic comments, wherein he refers to poor treatment and nasty directives, I have absolutely no idea to what he is referring. Sure would like to know, though. At any rate, I have been a big fan of each of those that are leaving, and not one of them talked to me about this beforehand. I find that odd, too. After all, it is my job here to handle such things.

Until, and if, I have acceptable explanations from any of those walking away from the Pack, they may consider the door closed and locked behind them. Saying that you quit does have consequences.

Good luck to Cush, Tx, Huck and pistol.

Dunc7, OIC, HGB, WP

WHY CLOSE THE DOOR ? on good people tx was in my squad TBH and is a great guy i would welcome him back any day .in fact he was invited back and said he had found a lot of common minded people in WP closing the door i find is closed minded (just my opinion being a squad owner myself) Remember this is a great game and a game it be .look at all the top sports personalities that go from team to team baseball/football/soccer some players go away a few seasons and come back tx cush huck and best of all pardre and pardre for me is wp thu and thu and all are good good people just because they choose to fly under a different banner with different friends doesnt make them bad people

Dunc7 wrote: I have just caught up on the recent defections from our beloved Wolf Pack and, I must admit, I'm shocked! What on earth would be the reason for going elsewhere? Viper isn't as good looking as Lil (sorry, Boss), but I'd rather have him at my side in a fight up there any day! As to the Padre's cryptic comments, wherein he refers to poor treatment and nasty directives, I have absolutely no idea to what he is referring. Sure would like to know, though. At any rate, I have been a big fan of each of those that are leaving, and not one of them talked to me about this beforehand. I find that odd, too. After all, it is my job here to handle such things.

Until, and if, I have acceptable explanations from any of those walking away from the Pack, they may consider the door closed and locked behind them. Saying that you quit does have consequences.

Good luck to Cush, Tx, Huck and pistol.

Dunc7, OIC, HGB, WP

To be clear, no one came to me with any problems or complaints either. If someone was/is unhappy, make it known to more than one member. We have plenty of Air Marshals left you can talk to. The only reasons for the hostility earlier was because the ones that are leaving/gone were well liked individuals. And will be missed.

yes skeeter but they wont be missed if they are true friends you will still see them in the sky banners and squads come and go friends true don't i have many friends in many squads the only time i treat them different if they appear on the horizon as a red

Skeeter72{WP} wrote: To be clear, no one came to me with any problems or complaints either. If someone was/is unhappy, make it known to more than one member. We have plenty of Air Marshals left you can talk to. The only reasons for the hostility earlier was because the ones that are leaving/gone were well liked individuals. And will be missed.

You can't just jump squads without consequences. Dunc is right and I'm sure there is something that addresses this in the bylaws.

until i know more i dont care wut squad u r in as long as we are all friendly to each other everything is fine and dunc its not like they are leaving for the fun of it mate sssooo ease off a little bit they have always been loyal to us. my door is open to any all for an explanation

In all honesty manny after the events of the day huck and i were worried what you would think most of all. You are mature beyond your years my friend and we are relieved that this is your take on things.
It was never our intention to cause strife but nonetheless it occured, DF is a fun and fascinating game and wolf pack is a great squad, all of the friends we have made on here has become part of our life and our prayers.
Thanks all of you for allowing us to fight with and against you with honor and pride and i hope that we all will continue as just that. Me and huck have something unique here in this game and as we become better pilots we will more than likely have a squad of our own. For now we will fly with EOI.