Jacklpe wrote: Books the teamkiller... 2 games in a row. FLYMAGIC will corroborate.

Just catching up after a couple of days away.
I was not there. There is someone flying as FLYMAGICK. Possibly other variables as well.
I'm with KESTRAL on this. You might think it's flattering until someone uses your name and then does crappy stuff.
It's tough enough on the mods to handle the name changes on some of the banned folks.
Now using other's name variants will only add to the confusion.
To whoever is doing it...cease and desist. Fly your own name or don't fly. When you screw-up people will think it is us.

Jacklpe wrote: Books the teamkiller... 2 games in a row. FLYMAGIC will corroborate.

Just catching up after a couple of days away.
I was not there. There is someone flying as FLYMAGICK. Possibly other variables as well.
I'm with KESTRAL on this. You might think it's flattering until someone uses your name and then does crappy stuff.
It's tough enough on the mods to handle the name changes on some of the banned folks.
Now using other's name variants will only add to the confusion.
To whoever is doing it...cease and desist. Fly your own name or don't fly. When you screw-up people will think it is us.

Mondo198 wrote: Gday you overworked Moderators,
I have sent some delightful screenshots of colourful language to Manfred that was being sprayed at anyone in particular, but artilleryschool, theBigRagu and KptnMondo were three of the unfortunate victims of his verbal diarrhea, Lads you may do what you want with this individual,but personally I would recommend a long walk off a short pier!

Yeah im thebigragu that day. Laverne n Shirley lol. That's why I kept telling that kid its me dogss he's usually a nice kid but he went platinum nutjob that day. Really awful stuff I mean it suprised Me. He's gotta go

Paul Mantz, Jr. wrote:

Jacklpe wrote: Books the teamkiller... 2 games in a row. FLYMAGIC will corroborate.

Just catching up after a couple of days away.
I was not there. There is someone flying as FLYMAGICK. Possibly other variables as well.
I'm with KESTRAL on this. You might think it's flattering until someone uses your name and then does crappy stuff.
It's tough enough on the mods to handle the name changes on some of the banned folks.
Now using other's name variants will only add to the confusion.
To whoever is doing it...cease and desist. Fly your own name or don't fly. When you screw-up people will think it is us.

I thought it was you saying that Books was teamkilling... I saw him do it once myself also, but it might have been an accident... As a general rule, when FLYMAGIC tells me that someone is teamkilling, I believe him.

Oh well...

I honestly do not understand the discord between Argentina and brazil, but this guy wanted to make it clear he didn't like Pedrinho. Name is Lugar and kept spewing racial epithets at Pedro. Pedro is probably too nice of a guy to report, but I'm not. He needs a gag order for a bit.

During a bomb the base game, Squadron leader Jesuslovesme lost his mind and became a teamkiller. Shot down his teammate tinger from behind on takeoff, then shot him in his parachute. Got called on it and continued to shoot teammates until [m]bzerkbzerk said "Jesus belongs to the red team". BLAKHAWK, philip06, 1001, and [111th]Sky Raptor were witnesses. He had been shooting at reds, but I think he got tired of eating lead and took it out on his team.

Jacklpe wrote:

Paul Mantz, Jr. wrote:

Jacklpe wrote: Books the teamkiller... 2 games in a row. FLYMAGIC will corroborate.

Just catching up after a couple of days away.
I was not there. There is someone flying as FLYMAGICK. Possibly other variables as well.
I'm with KESTRAL on this. You might think it's flattering until someone uses your name and then does crappy stuff.
It's tough enough on the mods to handle the name changes on some of the banned folks.
Now using other's name variants will only add to the confusion.
To whoever is doing it...cease and desist. Fly your own name or don't fly. When you screw-up people will think it is us.

I thought it was you saying that Books was teamkilling... I saw him do it once myself also, but it might have been an accident... As a general rule, when FLYMAGIC tells me that someone is teamkilling, I believe him.

Oh well...

Can we bolt together a half-arsed facsimile of a sense of humor here? Yes, there's a player flying name variants of other players. He's a veteran of the game. He's dedicated to keeping Dogfight clean like you only wish you were. He happens to be a M.O.M. He's also a good friend. Not only to me, to all Dogfight players. He's the antithesis of a "screw up". This is the guy I want on my wing when a team killer or spawn killer cuts loose. So what's the problem? You can't view "name variant" as "homage"? You have to go straight to the most negative scenario you can think of? "...someone uses your name and does crappy stuff."? I'm gonna need you to delineate the "crappy stuff" this player has done under your, or any, name variant. I personally endured a solid six weeks of dozens of "name variants" of my name, all flying at once, each sillier than the last...and look how damaged I am. C'mon guys. I know the people contributing to this discussion to be smarter and more mature than this. We Moderators barely discipline even the most heinous game names because there are issues of freedom of speech involved. You think we're going to waste our time on someone who's among the most vigilant proponents of a clean, just, fair and respectful game because he flies as Kestrol, or Jackelpe or FLYMAGIQ or Wigg? For fun? Often out of admiration for the imitated player? Give it a little more thought. Not only am I not going to discourage him, I'm asking him as a personal favor to keep doing exactly as he has been. Humor is a fundamental component of this game for me. Paranoia? Not so much. When someone has appropriated your name and team killed, spawn killed or used profanity, I'll be first to act in your defense. Until then...a little perspective, please.

thanks rick..but I have already deleted my banner and asked my name chameleon taken off the roster..the concept of a doppleganger is like the first home movies of game play..it is not ready for here yet..yes kestrel I am kestrel and Manfred and J and zuperman and slender man and pedrihno and fly magic and blue Max and greyghost and wig and parrothead and bstrachan and quiet and streetsbadnews and bellsaj and Gen jack and bopes and martin and few more..I will quit making the game funny or different..no disrespect was intended to anyone or squad..I did not mock you..I just didn't answer any questions..would I be mad if you didn't know MoMs rules...no...its a game..period and no one reads moms pages but moms..right Paul?..(page 452) ironically, yours is the first comment after my introduction..I apologize that I hurt your pride or feelings and never would I have tarnished your game reputation...so stand tall and be proud..you have your answers..you are unique and one of a kind again.I will fly as Michael when I do fly..the same missions..same banter..same people..i will not delete spammers or ban them as I can still do that..I will patrol the game old school for my sake and no one else's...and when I was kestrel he was ranked 62 not 202..i have no more to say...say what you will.

If you want to fly under the name Bellsaj I'll be honoured, and you'll probably be doing it better than me too.
I think it was fun shooting myself without being suicidal.
I'll say keep it up bro, bring a smile to my face

That's the spirit, Anders. Exactly what I'm talking about. It's easy to keep this molehill/mountain nonsense in proper perspective with that adorable brand new baby daughter of yours, yes? All best wishes to you and Mrs. Bell.

Michael, I'm looking forward to flying with you as you for a change! But promise me that once in a while you'll play a few missions as Wigg.

Just a thought regarding some of you guys that are having problems with doppelgangers.

I belong to another car based forum where once you have picked your username, that is the one you stick with.
You can't just change your username yourself, it is possible if you really want to but you have to pm a moderator
and they are the only ones who can change usernames.
Do any of you think that would be a possible solution for the dogfight forum ?

just went to and read page 452
the smile at the end scared the living crap outta me

. Wigbomb wrote:

Jacklpe wrote:

Paul Mantz, Jr. wrote:

Jacklpe wrote: Books the teamkiller... 2 games in a row. FLYMAGIC will corroborate.

Just catching up after a couple of days away.
I was not there. There is someone flying as FLYMAGICK. Possibly other variables as well.
I'm with KESTRAL on this. You might think it's flattering until someone uses your name and then does crappy stuff.
It's tough enough on the mods to handle the name changes on some of the banned folks.
Now using other's name variants will only add to the confusion.
To whoever is doing it...cease and desist. Fly your own name or don't fly. When you screw-up people will think it is us.

I thought it was you saying that Books was teamkilling... I saw him do it once myself also, but it might have been an accident... As a general rule, when FLYMAGIC tells me that someone is teamkilling, I believe him.

Oh well...

Can we bolt together a half-arsed facsimile of a sense of humor here? Yes, there's a player flying name variants of other players. He's a veteran of the game. He's dedicated to keeping Dogfight clean like you only wish you were. He happens to be a M.O.M. He's also a good friend. Not only to me, to all Dogfight players. He's the antithesis of a "screw up". This is the guy I want on my wing when a team killer or spawn killer cuts loose. So what's the problem? You can't view "name variant" as "homage"? You have to go straight to the most negative scenario you can think of? "...someone uses your name and does crappy stuff."? I'm gonna need you to delineate the "crappy stuff" this player has done under your, or any, name variant. I personally endured a solid six weeks of dozens of "name variants" of my name, all flying at once, each sillier than the last...and look how damaged I am. C'mon guys. I know the people contributing to this discussion to be smarter and more mature than this. We Moderators barely discipline even the most heinous game names because there are issues of freedom of speech involved. You think we're going to waste our time on someone who's among the most vigilant proponents of a clean, just, fair and respectful game because he flies as Kestrol, or Jackelpe or FLYMAGIQ or Wigg? For fun? Often out of admiration for the imitated player? Give it a little more thought. Not only am I not going to discourage him, I'm asking him as a personal favor to keep doing exactly as he has been. Humor is a fundamental component of this game for me. Paranoia? Not so much. When someone has appropriated your name and team killed, spawn killed or used profanity, I'll be first to act in your defense. Until then...a little perspective, please.

I knew who it was......I concider him a very good friend of mine......He once flew with my name but I never seen it, only heard about it......You can fly as gen jack anytime.....

Hi Michael (legendofkane),

this is an official complaint from me to you only. You've not flown as Allan so far, so please don't stop changing your name until you've done this. I would be honored if you do so my good friend. Oh btw. you can't quit M.O.M.s membership

with flying salutes

Allan

you..big Tex..phillip06..snoopy..polish bob..ohno..Kasey..Davey Crockett..and half a dozen more have I imitated my friend..the concept was to see a person in game ..leave and come back in as them having fun..as you can see on enigmas page 99. it usually didnt put me back in the same game though..I'm am sorry Allan but those days are over. sry

legendofkane wrote: thanks rick..but I have already deleted my banner and asked my name chameleon taken off the roster..the concept of a doppleganger is like the first home movies of game play..it is not ready for here yet..yes kestrel I am kestrel and Manfred and J and zuperman and slender man and pedrihno and fly magic and blue Max and greyghost and wig and parrothead and bstrachan and quiet and streetsbadnews and bellsaj and Gen jack and bopes and martin and few more..I will quit making the game funny or different..no disrespect was intended to anyone or squad..I did not mock you..I just didn't answer any questions..would I be mad if you didn't know MoMs rules...no...its a game..period and no one reads moms pages but moms..right Paul?..(page 452) ironically, yours is the first comment after my intruduction..I apologize that I hurt your pride or feelings and never would I have tarnished your game reputation...so stand tall and be proud..you have your answers..you are unique and one of a kind again.I will fly as Michael when I do fly..the same missions..same banter..same people..i will not delete spammers or ban them as I can still do that..I will patrol the game old school for my sake and no one else's...and when I was kestrel he was ranked 62 not 202..i have no more to say...say what you will.

Totally unacceptable. Period. Your banner must be returned and tag flown. You are one of my favorite DF personalities. You can fly as Blue Maxx, Blue Max Young, or any other variant you wish. Which you have done and I thought was pretty funny. Especially when we were in the same game with the same name. The chameleon was a good idea and funny. I have played hundreds of games with you Michael under probably as many names. Never have i seen you act out of line in any way. I was very pleased when I saw you were a MOM finally and I want you to stay as you are. Chameleon possibly every member of MOM. Please return the Chameleon from exile.

I have not and will not leave MoM...but now I will just fly and kill and sacrifice numerous planes for the team and mission as always.But Chameleon idea is too...controversial as most things I do..I need no banner or moniker to define myself as a pilot and foremost ...a MoM

Was that you who flew as blue maxx when I was in the game? The original max was there too. I thought it was dent lol.....you said "jack you wear me out" lol......man your good at disguises.....please don't stop.....You say your controversial, well so am I....I just keep doing what I am doing and so shall you....

. Wigbomb wrote:

Jacklpe wrote:

Paul Mantz, Jr. wrote:

Jacklpe wrote: Books the teamkiller... 2 games in a row. FLYMAGIC will corroborate.

Just catching up after a couple of days away.
I was not there. There is someone flying as FLYMAGICK. Possibly other variables as well.
I'm with KESTRAL on this. You might think it's flattering until someone uses your name and then does crappy stuff.
It's tough enough on the mods to handle the name changes on some of the banned folks.
Now using other's name variants will only add to the confusion.
To whoever is doing it...cease and desist. Fly your own name or don't fly. When you screw-up people will think it is us.

I thought it was you saying that Books was teamkilling... I saw him do it once myself also, but it might have been an accident... As a general rule, when FLYMAGIC tells me that someone is teamkilling, I believe him.

Oh well...

Can we bolt together a half-arsed facsimile of a sense of humor here? Yes, there's a player flying name variants of other players. He's a veteran of the game. He's dedicated to keeping Dogfight clean like you only wish you were. He happens to be a M.O.M. He's also a good friend. Not only to me, to all Dogfight players. He's the antithesis of a "screw up". This is the guy I want on my wing when a team killer or spawn killer cuts loose. So what's the problem? You can't view "name variant" as "homage"? You have to go straight to the most negative scenario you can think of? "...someone uses your name and does crappy stuff."? I'm gonna need you to delineate the "crappy stuff" this player has done under your, or any, name variant. I personally endured a solid six weeks of dozens of "name variants" of my name, all flying at once, each sillier than the last...and look how damaged I am. C'mon guys. I know the people contributing to this discussion to be smarter and more mature than this. We Moderators barely discipline even the most heinous game names because there are issues of freedom of speech involved. You think we're going to waste our time on someone who's among the most vigilant proponents of a clean, just, fair and respectful game because he flies as Kestrol, or Jackelpe or FLYMAGIQ or Wigg? For fun? Often out of admiration for the imitated player? Give it a little more thought. Not only am I not going to discourage him, I'm asking him as a personal favor to keep doing exactly as he has been. Humor is a fundamental component of this game for me. Paranoia? Not so much. When someone has appropriated your name and team killed, spawn killed or used profanity, I'll be first to act in your defense. Until then...a little perspective, please.

Ok... With all of that out of the way, I'm pretty sure that Books is a teamkiller. Make sure n watch out fer him... K?

General jackson wrote: Was that you who flew as blue maxx when I was in the game? The original max was there too. I thought it was dent lol.....you said "jack you wear me out" lol......man your good at disguises.....please don't stop.....You say your controversial, well so am I....I just keep doing what I am doing and so shall you....

Yup that was both of us. I was the one you were wearing out. You make my hands tired holding this pad over my head for 10 min. At a time. You make me work hard at getting a kill. Always interesting going in circles with you jack. I like to see you blue and not red. You always test my skills.

Yes Jacklpe, Books is a teamkiller. Saw it in about three games now. Not a very good one, but he will get a team mate off the runway.

legendofkane wrote: thanks rick..but I have already deleted my banner and asked my name chameleon taken off the roster..the concept of a doppleganger is like the first home movies of game play..it is not ready for here yet..yes kestrel I am kestrel and Manfred and J and zuperman and slender man and pedrihno and fly magic and blue Max and greyghost and wig and parrothead and bstrachan and quiet and streetsbadnews and bellsaj and Gen jack and bopes and martin and few more..I will quit making the game funny or different..no disrespect was intended to anyone or squad..I did not mock you..I just didn't answer any questions..would I be mad if you didn't know MoMs rules...no...its a game..period and no one reads moms pages but moms..right Paul?..(page 452) ironically, yours is the first comment after my intruduction..I apologize that I hurt your pride or feelings and never would I have tarnished your game reputation...so stand tall and be proud..you have your answers..you are unique and one of a kind again.I will fly as Michael when I do fly..the same missions..same banter..same people..i will not delete spammers or ban them as I can still do that..I will patrol the game old school for my sake and no one else's...and when I was kestrel he was ranked 62 not 202..i have no more to say...say what you will.

Well kane im glad it was a respectable pilot like u and not someone out to get me lol. Sry i over reacted. I was mainly scared over who it could have been. Wow u had a busy day lol. Since it wasnt someone out to get me, or someone that hates me, im sry over how i acted. I will give u karma as an apology note. Im glad it was just a joke lol. Now i can laugh along with u my friend.

legendofkane wrote: thanks rick..but I have already deleted my banner and asked my name chameleon taken off the roster..the concept of a doppleganger is like the first home movies of game play..it is not ready for here yet..yes kestrel I am kestrel and Manfred and J and zuperman and slender man and pedrihno and fly magic and blue Max and greyghost and wig and parrothead and bstrachan and quiet and streetsbadnews and bellsaj and Gen jack and bopes and martin and few more..I will quit making the game funny or different..no disrespect was intended to anyone or squad..I did not mock you..I just didn't answer any questions..would I be mad if you didn't know MoMs rules...no...its a game..period and no one reads moms pages but moms..right Paul?..(page 452) ironically, yours is the first comment after my intruduction..I apologize that I hurt your pride or feelings and never would I have tarnished your game reputation...so stand tall and be proud..you have your answers..you are unique and one of a kind again.I will fly as Michael when I do fly..the same missions..same banter..same people..i will not delete spammers or ban them as I can still do that..I will patrol the game old school for my sake and no one else's...and when I was kestrel he was ranked 62 not 202..i have no more to say...say what you will.

Hey I just want the kills and points from you
Oh and maybe some cash for the name rental.
Manfred (the original) (aside from that Manfred Jr. guy) (and aside from Manfred von Richthofen, then original original).

An new teamkiller. He needs a permanent break. He was trying to make a game out of being a TKer. His name is infamous. I didn't take screen shots, but Jacklpe was there in multiple games. He can confirm.

This guy made no bones about what he was trying to do. Even said he was out for me, as blue.

I'm a big advocate of short term bans, but not on this guy. He needs understand before he's allowed in again.

ParrotHead wrote: An new teamkiller. He needs a permanent break. He was trying to make a game out of being a TKer. His name is infamous. I didn't take screen shots, but Jacklpe was there in multiple games. He can confirm.

This guy made no bones about what he was trying to do. Even said he was out for me, as blue.

I'm a big advocate of short term bans, but not on this guy. He needs understand before he's allowed in again.

Confirmed

ParrotHead wrote: An new teamkiller. He needs a permanent break. He was trying to make a game out of being a TKer. His name is infamous. I didn't take screen shots, but Jacklpe was there in multiple games. He can confirm.

This guy made no bones about what he was trying to do. Even said he was out for me, as blue.

I'm a big advocate of short term bans, but not on this guy. He needs understand before he's allowed in again.

Need exact name. There are multiple similar names. (Infamous) and most others with infamous in their names are aspirants with 0 kills. I only see two with kills, infamous1 with 14 kills, and INFAMOUS1278 with 3 kills.

Jacob10000 wrote:

ParrotHead wrote: An new teamkiller. He needs a permanent break. He was trying to make a game out of being a TKer. His name is infamous. I didn't take screen shots, but Jacklpe was there in multiple games. He can confirm.

This guy made no bones about what he was trying to do. Even said he was out for me, as blue.

I'm a big advocate of short term bans, but not on this guy. He needs understand before he's allowed in again.

Need exact name. There are multiple similar names. (Infamous) and most others with infamous in their names are aspirants with 0 kills. I only see two with kills, infamous1 with 14 kills, and INFAMOUS1278 with 3 kills.

Pretty sure it was just infamous. He wouldn't have any kills, b/c he was too busy with his own team. Parrot tried several times to explain. Yes, he is obviously new, but no, he wasnt getting the point. Someone needs to splain things to him in a way he might understand. I'm not sure if that would be a temp/ perm ban or whatever... Just so as he gets the point.

That's why they pay you guys the big bucks...

Generally I just enjoy hounding them till they quit doing the offending thing. As we know, my focus is usually on the sickos and other types that I wouldn't want kids to be playing on here with.

Was it imfamous? I flew with him a sec ago never got a kill but was tryin to shoot blues on the other team

Sorry I thought it was infamous. He was a rank 2. Could have been with an "m". One of the buttons on my iPad is being funny, so I've stopped taking screen shots unless at the end of a game so I don't boot myself.

Yep he was rank two

It was no joke kestrel..Chameleon was a concept I thought of after a pm with Wig..he made a clever banner for it as well..name and banner are now deleted..it was a new personae for an old game..my way of dealing with the real world..I have quit sometimes for coughing up blood..the real reason I was upside down..yes I was MOM Pedrihno..that's how I knew you hadn't been on in a week. Players names are etched in stone here..UNTIL they change it for whatever reason..I took a spin on that..had you saw my rank I was no noob or moraf trying to get around the system
..the idea had never been seen here..and as a falcon you should appreciate this..that if they don't know who you are they don't know your skills till its too late. A tactical advantage that I exploited I did not achieve my rank by team killing or spawn killing and will always tell other blues to let reds fly...I have been spawned a lot but I know..its just a game.
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