If any member leave squad and joins in another squad, how many of us take it in positive way?

What's the right way to leave squad?

As squad officers, how many of us would see any member go on good note. Would you take him back if he approach again for joining?

What's the right way to approach a squad for joining?

If a member joins another squad, how many see it as member's wish rather than blaming other squad officers?

Is squad policy, rules above member's happiness?

What's are the qualities members seek in his squad officers?

What's an ideal squad from members point of view.

What squad expect from it's members.

Why a member, who got multiple accounts, has to hide his identity to play his second from another squad if he is not sharing any secret of his squad(s)? When we can share love amongst our children why can't with our squad members with other Squads?

These are some of the questions from members / squad officers point of view.

Post your reply by quoting and answering the part of your interest.

Your answer or point of view may help understand member-squad or squad to squad relationship and may help squad officers to manage squad in better way

To me member's happiness is above all.
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If any member leave squad and joins in another squad, how many of us take it in positive way? Depends on the situation.

What's the right way to leave squad? Again it depends, but maybe have a talk with the MORAF of the squad, and leave a message in the squad thread.

As squad officers, how many of us would see any member go on good note. Would you take him back if he approach again for joining? I'm not a squad officer, but I would say it all depends on why they left, and if they are just squad jumping or not. Also, are they able to follow our rules, etc.

What's the right way to approach a squad for joining? Go to their squad area and see if there is a specific page saying how to apply. But before applying, read the squad rules, read the thread a bit, and then see if you would be a good match or not.

If a member joins another squad, how many see it as member's wish rather than blaming other squad officers? Depends on the situation. Some may be unhappy with the squad or the officers and want to leave for greener grass, or they just think another squad fits them better.

Is squad policy, rules above member's happiness? Absolutely. What if a rule was no tank spawn killing, but the member thinks that is happiness to them?

What's are the qualities members seek in his squad officers? Fairness, but quick to act. In Gunner's Inc we boot people fast if they bring dishonor on the squad, or won't abide by the rules. That's a good quality to a good squad.

What's an ideal squad from members point of view. Depends on the member really, right?

What squad expect from it's members. Have fun, but abide our rules. Don't bring dishonor on the squad. Of course each squad is different and may not care about it.

yes vivek i suppose i am a very easy going leader but a very active one
some leaders of squads lead from afar and don't even play much and get very hands off and second hand information
i recently took a recruit to my squad and he told me point blank he would not be staying in my squad as he had his eye on one of the larger squads.

1 I still have this guy

2 i am still training him

3 i made him a nice banner (which i told him if he decides to leave i can add his new squad logo)

4 i care if he stays or goes id rather he stays but wont hold anything against him (and wont call him a traitor or a spy)

5 i will pass tips tricks and techniques to any player as long as they fly clean and honest the more better players there are playing makes it a better game easy kills are not my way

6 hes still welcome to come back if things don't work out

7 this is a game and some people take it too seriously

I don't know about the rest of you, but at Crow Hill we spike them to a tree with their bellies out, then cut the stomach muscles so that the intestines fall out. At this point, many woodland creatures come up and devour said leaver of squadron.

Not sure why nobody had joined yet. Odd

Husky Dog wrote: I don't know about the rest of you, but at Crow Hill we spike them to a tree with their bellies out, then cut the stomach muscles so that the intestines fall out. At this point, many woodland creatures come up and devour said leaver of squadron.

Not sure why nobody had joined yet. Odd

This is just so "Husky".
Gotta love it.

Dognamitt wrote: yes vivek i suppose i am a very easy going leader but a very active one
some leaders of squads lead from afar and don't even play much and get very hands off and second hand information
i recently took a recruit to my squad and he told me point blank he would not be staying in my squad as he had his eye on one of the larger squads.

1 I still have this guy

2 i am still training him

3 i made him a nice banner (which i told him if he decides to leave i can add his new squad logo)

4 i care if he stays or goes id rather he stays but wont hold anything against him (and wont call him a traitor or a spy)

5 i will pass tips tricks and techniques to any player as long as they fly clean and honest the more better players there are playing makes it a better game easy kills are not my way

6 hes still welcome to come back if things don't work out

7 this is a game and some people take it too seriously

Well said

Husky Dog wrote: I don't know about the rest of you, but at Crow Hill we spike them to a tree with their bellies out, then cut the stomach muscles so that the intestines fall out. At this point, many woodland creatures come up and devour said leaver of squadron.

Not sure why nobody had joined yet. Odd

You forgot the bacon !!

If any member leave squad and joins in another squad, how many of us take it in positive way?

We at Lafayette take it just fine. We often let our pilots join other squadrons to help with recruiting &/or leadership positions as long as they let us know first we're cool about it and look forward to them coming back to our little family of deadly killers.

What's the right way to leave squad?

First off, don't just leave. Let your squadron leader at least know about it ahead of time. Give them a chance to change your mind or at least be able to say thank you for being a part of ____ squadron and good luck. And don't leave because you were recruited by another squadron.. poaching pilots is dishonorable and do you really want to be a part of a dishonorable squadron?

As squad officers, how many of us would see any member go on good note. Would you take him back if he approach again for joining?

Pilots are people *gasp!* and people make mistakes.. so yeah, we at Lafayette have let former members rejoin us. One pilot in particular has left and joined us many times.. he's young and as we all know when we're young we're impulsive.. but he's an awesome pilot and good friend to everyone so yeah.

What's the right way to approach a squad for joining?

Read the 1st post on the squadrons thread page 1 or ask a member of that squadron in game on how to go about it.

If a member joins another squad, how many see it as member's wish rather than blaming other squad officers?

It's just a game.. if people are blaming and such they're taking it all too seriously lol! If someone wants to leave Lafayette for whatever reason as a permanent thing they go with our best wishes and fond farewells.

Is squad policy, rules above member's happiness?

We only have 2 rules.. & our Rule #2 is to have Fun! so as along as you don't do anything to get banned or muted - which is Rule #1 then it's a non-event for the most part. We don't have particular rules that are written in stone, but each of our pilots knows he's not just flying as himself in the skies of Dogfight but also representing all of Lafayette when he's killing everyone.
*[however certain circumstances/actions/events are looked at on a individual basis if an officer deems it needed though.. like breaking zuperman's very few rules, tank spawnkilling on runways, etc...]

What's are the qualities members seek in his squad officers?

I chose our officers, so their qualities were apparent to me and what anyone else thinks doesn't really matter lol!

What's an ideal squad from members point of view.

The biggest things I hear from pilots throughout the game is that an ideal squadron be active and a cool group of people to hangout with.

What squad expect from it's members.

For me & Lafayette is for our pilots to have FUN & represent our little escadrille!

Why a member, who got multiple accounts, has to hide his identity to play his second from another squad if he is not sharing any secret of his squad(s)? When we can share love amongst our children why can't with our squad members with other Squads?

We at Lafayette frown upon multiple accounts... there are occasionally good reasons to have one, (so you can fly in lower server and look for recruits) but mostly we're not into that although a couple of our pilots have more than one account. Being a member of another squadron though is a big no-no.. You are either Lafayette at heart & to the core, or you're not.

So true Dog. For myself its about making connections with a really amazing group of people around the world. Its a bunch of middle aged people playing a game that is slowly falling apart with glitches, lagg issues, simple graphics, and for the most part not a very complicated game compared to whats out there in the game world. Yet we love it. And most of us are slightly addicted to it lol. There is many different and reputable squads out there. If a pilot wants to try some thing new and meet new people, I do not think that is a bad thing at all. I think that is why the rent a wolf program has been such a hit.

[NLR] The Blue Fighter wrote: If any member leave squad and joins in another squad, how many of us take it in positive way?

Entirely dependent on the circumstances surrounding a persons decision to leave

What's the right way to leave squad?.

making your intentions known to squad officers

As squad officers, how many of us would see any member go on good note. Would you take him back if he approach again for joining?

We would much rather see a person leave on a good note. That would also be the determining factor as to whether or not he or she is allowed to return. Generally speaking a return is allowed

What's the right way to approach a squad for joining?

Take a few minutes to familiarize yourself with the prospective squad. Read a little on the forum

If a member joins another squad, how many see it as member's wish rather than blaming other squad officers?.

Members wish

Is squad policy, rules above member's happiness?

They should go hand in hand. Provided a member is familiar with the squad and its rules he or she, by virtue of joining the squad, has agreed to abide by them. The same can be said for the other members. The theory is a happy squad is populated by members who share similar styles and therefore have things in common. For this particular question I have to say the only thing I can see being addressed is whether a person who deliberately breaks squad rules does so to make themselves happy, and if so, will that behavior make the other squad members unhappy? Who was the Greek philosopher who moved out of Athens because he disagreed with the laws? Same principal applies.

What's are the qualities members seek in his squad officers?

All members are treated with respect and consistency. That's what I try to do. It doesn't always work for everyone but at least you know what you are getting from this squad officer

What's an ideal squad from members point of view?

I suspect it is one where everyone gets along

What squad expect from it's members.

Most important, have fun. Second, be proud to be in your squad. You are a representative of whatever squad you are in, so represent your brothers and sisters best you can.

Why a member, who got multiple accounts, has to hide his identity to play his second from another squad if he is not sharing any secret of his squad(s)? When we can share love amongst our children why can't with our squad members with other Squads?.

Wolf Pack shares members with other squads. Hidden identities suggests deception and name changes to hide identity are frowned upon.

These are some of the questions from members / squad officers point of view.

Post your reply by quoting and answering the part of your interest.

Your answer or point of view may help understand member-squad or squad to squad relationship and may help squad officers to manage squad in better way

To me member's happiness is above all.
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Great post Viper.

If someone leaves a squad, so be it, pat them on the back and wish them luck. What else can you do? As has been said before, "It's just a game".

[NLR] The Blue Fighter wrote:
Why a member, who got multiple accounts, has to hide his identity to play his second from another squad if he is not sharing any secret of his squad(s)? When we can share love amongst our children why can't with our squad members with other Squads?


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I'm not sure my squad has any "secrets" per say, but we do have conversations that I would not want a lot of other players around here to hear. We also have passwords that must be protected. For reasons such as that I am a little disappointed when someone leaves the Misfits. That being said I know we can trust most that decide to leave because we try to only allow the respectful and trustworthy in to begin with, such as Cue.
As far as the second account thing, not sure why someone would want to hide their identity to join another squad. What's the point? seems kind of shady. I know we have seconds account holders in the Misfits but I don't know of any that are currently in another legitimate squad. As far as I know they are only used for fun and for undercover surveillance (like watching a prospective recruit). I guess if people are doing this it kind of is devaluing the whole squad thing altogether.

We can always burn them.

Most of squad have 2 or more squad officers to look after the affairs of their squad. I being one of the squad officer and member of NLR squad would like to share my personal opinion as an honest squad officer/member.

If any member leave squad and joins in another squad, how many of us take it in positive way?
Yes in our squad we do take it in positive way though we don’t want any member to leave. There is specific reason to see off our member leave on good note which is:

When the member joins in, the squad officers scrutinize the member’s application to let him join or not and when the squad officers are convinced that the new recruit will be an asset to the squad, the member is welcomed. Likewise, it’s now squad officer responsibility to appreciate and cheer on member’s achievements in good times and to stand by his side in bad times. If squad officer miss that, then a member may get demotivated and look for other squad where squad members bonding are strong.

What's the right way to leave squad?
The best way to leave squad is to let the first officer and rest of the squad officers know your decision and don’t post on squad thread or leave abruptly till you get response from the officers. Sometimes the reason behind leaving the squad is miscommunication and once it is resolved the member may continue in that squad.

As squad officers, how many of us would see any member go on good note. Would you take him back if he approach again for joining?
We’ll try to hold member to the best we can but if the member’s want to join another squad, he is most welcome to do so, no hard feelings. “Yes”, he can join back if he in touch with squad officers and a valid reason but if your hopping squads then big “NO”.

What's the right way to approach a squad for joining?
Fly solo for some time and if you are talented one of the squad will approach you. But if you want to join specific squad, read the squad rules and follow their procedure. Do post on their thread about your wish to join them giving brief details about yourself and old/new in game name. Keep a track of your application/PM and respond to any queries if asked for. Don’t post on any other squad till you get decision on your application.

If a member joins another squad, how many see it as member's wish rather than blaming other squad officers?
If any member wish to join another squad, then we take it as our failure not to blame other squad. Sometimes a member get bonding with other squad members due to same liking or sharing same thoughts which he misses in present squad. No squad is perfect so a member has the right to change squad but yes, it would be nice to follow the right way to leave squad.

Is squad policy, rules above member's happiness?
Yes because rules are made to keep member under check. If you are representing squad, the squad expect you to play fair and with dignity. Keeping member happy doesn’t mean giving permission to do whatever they want to do. Squad policy and rules keep changing with time, so if you want to have tag of any squad you have to follow their rules and policy.

What's are the qualities members seek in his squad officers?
First and foremost, he should be good listener and non-bias. The squad officer should at least check forum/pm once a day and respond to the pm he received. Most of us are busy in job and as such if we could not respond to the PM/relevant post we should delegate powers to other. Squad officer is the one who encourage his members and guide them whenever needed. The squad officer may be gentleman at one time to encourage and motivate his squad members and on the other hand a strict administrator to scold or expel member if any member take squad reputation for granted. If any squad officer could not give time to the squad activities he should humbly step down and give chance to other active and honourable members to manage the squad.


What's an ideal squad from member’s point of view.
An ideal squad is one where member gets the chance to improve his talent, where he could get ears to listen and friends to share in good times, one can express his thoughts freely, one get appreciation for his hard work, gets responsibility to share and play fair and honourably.


What squad expect from it's members.
As member is representing squad, he/she is expected to play fair and honourable, respect other squad and its members and keep its cool in adverse situation. He/she is expected to bring any issue directly to squad officers rather than discussing them on forum or with other squad members. Not expected to share their squad secrets with other squad/members. Never to use vulgar or inappropriate language on world chat or in game chat.

Why a member, who got multiple accounts, has to hide his identity to play his second from another squad if he is not sharing any secret of his squad(s)? When we can share love amongst our children why can't with our squad members with other Squads?
If squad rules say you can’t join another squad if you are representing one, then one is not expected to join another squad with second account. But I personally don’t mind if a squad member join in another squad for short period to help that squad. This way loyalty remains with the parent squad and providing the necessary support to the friend’s squad to grow. Main thing is your squad officer should know about your second account identity.

PERSONALLY i have a few accounts in a few squads for example i have held my second account in wolf pack for near two years (its on my work ipad i didn't know at the time i could have same account on two devices and only play it at work the sales road can be lonley and boring sometimes)as the owner of a squad i have no qualms about any of my squad members wanting a second account in any other squad .In fact i know that if i told them they could not it would cause some resentment. if i was told i could not join another squad for any reason i would not want any part of that squad for restricting my ability to have fun in the game i love its a game after all not real life (other than the squad is a fake one trying to bring the game into disrepute you know which one i mean )

Lots of players have 2nd accounts. But I am not sure what the point is to place that second account in another legitimate squad. I would question that player's dedication to the original squad. And I also doubt that too many squads would be cool with it.

Isn't part of being in a squad about trust and loyalty? How is having accounts in every squad loyal? Seems more like gathering Intel and seeing what everyone else is doing... that's the first thing that comes to my mind right off the top.

I guess if knowing everybody's business is what fun is then have at it... as long as people aren't being deceived and everybody knows about it then go for it.

But for me, I don't think being in 2 squads at the same time is a very good idea. Just my opinion.

It's going to be interesting when/if squad wars ever happens. (I still believe it will some day.)

I imagine there will be a whole new twist to squad dynamics. People will probably move between squads more and use second accounts just for stirring up the teams. There may be several "sub squads" or "competition wings" who will form up just for specific challenges or even just to scrimmage within a larger squad.... All Star teams?


I'd probably maintain my main account as exclusively NLR and use a second account for special occasions or circumstances... I suppose zup might make more money if people are paying to upgrade 2nd accounts...

Hmmmm......

Husky Dog wrote: I don't know about the rest of you, but at Crow Hill we spike them to a tree with their bellies out, then cut the stomach muscles so that the intestines fall out. At this point, many woodland creatures come up and devour said leaver of squadron.

Not sure why nobody had joined yet. Odd

Nice, You have me thinking

[NLR] McFate wrote: It's going to be interesting when/if squad wars ever happens. (I still believe it will some day.)

LOL! Even I, one of the biggest fans & dreamer of future Squadron Wars finally had to bite the bullet & realize it was probably in the same category as the Loch Ness Monster & Bigfoot & aliens visiting us (Davy doesn't count) & the Tooth Fairy..

I still HOPE that it will be born one day.. but I've stopped anticipating it altogether.

ZebraUp wrote:

[NLR] McFate wrote: It's going to be interesting when/if squad wars ever happens. (I still believe it will some day.)

LOL! Even I, one of the biggest fans & dreamer of future Squadron Wars finally had to bite the bullet & realize it was probably in the same category as the Loch Ness Monster & Bigfoot & aliens visiting us (Davy doesn't count) & the Tooth Fairy..

I still HOPE that it will be born one day.. but I've stopped anticipating it altogether.

IKR?

....kind of like Dogfight Elite! Like that will ever happen.

I have a bit of an issue when a trusted member leaves. I joined the Misfits a while back not knowing what to expect on a personal level. I just knew they were very well respected. Man it was the best decision i ever made and no one could pull me away unless they peeled my lifeless body off of the tree husky bound me to. Just saying after someone has been a misfit for a bit and has given us a chance to know them for a little while to see what their intentions are towards the squad,then it gets more personal. This was what i was clueless on until i was a Misfit for a while. We are more to each other than just players in a game. We have real life friendships and part of it requires a password. So yes i understand frustration when a trusted member leaves. However if its his or her perogative then so be it.

Sure i have made friends outside of my squad within the df community. I respect those who respect me. I am quick to snap, have a short fuse. Always have , always will. But i am me and i dont hide it.

I do have a second account. Its no secret... TO THE ONES WHO NEED TO KNOW. If i change my name and someone in game asks, i have no issue disclosing who i am. Some of us play around and make others guess but when it comes down to it and if it really matters we dont hide our true identities.

We all come from different walks of life... well except wp, they live in the same den. But respect has to be given to be gotten. I see alot of shady crap going on. It kinda bothers me that ppl are as sneaky as they are. Its actually sad that ppl in this world just cant be straight up with one another. Instead back door deals get made, and ppl have to create 20 million accounts to hide who they are.

I understand someone leaving a squad for a number of reasons.

I also understand being upset if someone you thought was a friend abandons you for no apparent reason.

Why leave your family?

Whats really going on?

I feel like people are being promosed greener grass like eagle said. I think it was eagle. But if the grass is already green, why leave in hopes to find greener grass? Thta makes me ask what is really going on? What empty promises are being made?

I saw alot of ya stating why a player leaves and how to take it. What about the leader of a squad? I really didnt see anyone saying much about it. I know im not blind and i know you all arent either.

Think about it. I REMBER THERE BEING A CARDINAL RULE WHEN I FIRST STARTED. I was a legend and trying to recruit. Theres on very imprtant rule about recruiting and about crossing a very important line as a recruiter.



I think one of the most important traits in a squad is gumption!

I truly appreciate being a Misfit and love the bond and unity we have.

I feel the need to say this everytime i pst on an outside thread. These are my feelings, not those of my brothers (MISFITS). I have to say it beimg Misfits are always under fire and scrutany for one reason or another.

Hi all . I almost left the wolf pack .infact I kinda did I was confused and struggling with ill health ,but the pack kinda took me by and talked .I had felt I was not worthy of being a wolf , I was just unable to hit anything in game . But many members took time to talk to me ,I was sent a learner guide to game . I talked thru what it said , started to realize theese guys wanted me as a trusted member and player . Now I actually feel at home . And yes I think squad wars are missing from the game

WOLF LEGIONZ{WP***} wrote: Hi all . I almost left the wolf pack .infact I kinda did I was confused and struggling with ill health ,but the pack kinda took me by and talked .I had felt I was not worthy of being a wolf , I was just unable to hit anything in game . But many members took time to talk to me ,I was sent a learner guide to game . I talked thru what it said , started to realize theese guys wanted me as a trusted member and player . Now I actually feel at home . And yes I think squad wars are missing from the game

Love the tank. Thats so cool!

BULLET [M]isfit wrote: . . . I think one of the most important traits in a squad is gumption!

Bullet, anyone that still uses the word "gumption" gets bonus points in my book.

Man we are a bunch of old farts seasoned individuals around here.

Ok , I see many views on how you all take it when member wants to leave a squad . We also need to look at what it takes for a member to join a squad . I came to Misfits with Bullet . We were both looking for a true squad to believe in . We both discussed options that were offered to both of us ,as most people came to know that we stuck together as team mates . I think this is where we both came to be respected by the squads that asked us to join . We came from a squad called Legends [L] . We were disappointed in seeing a squad that we helped build and expand , fall apart through selfishness and internal bickering . This happened because of trying to expand numbers too fast . We let the bench mark slip . We ended up making the right decision , we feel , by joining the Misfits . I can only speak for myself from this point on , but I made so many friendships within this squad , that it would take wild horses and a truck load of elephants to make me even budge an inch away from this squad . I think Bullet would back me in saying this . I feel if a member wanted to leave this squad then he or she must have had a huge issue outside this squad that probably will eventually make him or her leave the game of Dog Fight eventually anyway . Most squads , not all , are like a family and are there for you come hell or high water . We saw this in Misfits with many examples . One that comes to mind is Sky Fox . I see a few examples where some come into squads for a brief time to simply learn how the squad is so successful so they can try to immitate it and start a squad of their own . Good luck with this as you missed the point of why this squad inducted you in the first place . Now back to the game

S. E. Dailey wrote:

BULLET [M]isfit wrote: . . . I think one of the most important traits in a squad is gumption!

Bullet, anyone that still uses the word "gumption" gets bonus points in my book.

Man we are a bunch of old farts seasoned individuals around here.

My wife and kids call me old. Now df community.lol

Yeah im starting to feel my age.

In my eyes the only way to evolve in any way is by having gumption and being able to accept change.

Dont know how ppl make it through life without it

I gotta say I pretty much agree with bullet almost 100%, it depends on why they're leaving. Yes a few members of gi have 2nd accounts, they are allowed to join wp, dd , or bring it in gi also. Wp, dd, and gi are allies so no worries when a member goes for a visit or even decides to keep a wnd account in dd wp or gi. We know mostly who have 2nd accounts and why, and where they are. I also do think there's something shady going on around df the past few weeks. I lost a well trusted member not too long ago, and it hurt, really truly deep down hurt, so yes it was not on a trusted member but a good friend. Now I have another wanting to leave, sent me a pm saying he did. I replied to him told him to do what was best for him... but today is 4th day he hasn't signed on.. when before he was on all the time, so.. I'm kinda wondering if there's a hidden 2nd account floating somewhere.. it makes u stop and think. Now as far as coming back, well I guess that depends on how the situation of leaving was handled. As for the right way to leave a squad u have been a member of for a while is first send a pm to the squad leader, talk with him or her, tell them why, or maybe it's just a case of maybe feeling like they're stuck in a rut or just simply don't want to be a part of that squad anymore, in which case is fine. Once u have talked to ur leader, then post on ur squad thread saying so, and that u will be leaving. Then apply to whichever squad that has ur interest peeked.

If any member leave squad and joins in another squad, how many of us take it in positive way?

What's the right way to leave squad?

As squad officers, how many of us would see any member go on good note. Would you take him back if he approach again for joining?

What's the right way to approach a squad for joining?

If a member joins another squad, how many see it as member's wish rather than blaming other squad officers?

Is squad policy, rules above member's happiness?

What's are the qualities members seek in his squad officers?

What's an ideal squad from members point of view.

What squad expect from it's members.

Why a member, who got multiple accounts, has to hide his identity to play his second from another squad if he is not sharing any secret of his squad(s)? When we can share love amongst our children why can't with our squad members with other Squads?

These are some of the questions from members / squad officers point of view.

Post your reply by quoting and answering the part of your interest.

Your answer or point of view may help understand member-squad or squad to squad relationship and may help squad officers to manage squad in better way.

pinkstar30 wrote: I gotta say I pretty much agree with bullet almost 100%, it depends on why they're leaving. Yes a few members of gi have 2nd accounts, they are allowed to join wp, dd , or bring it in gi also. Wp, dd, and gi are allies so no worries when a member goes for a visit or even decides to keep a wnd account in dd wp or gi. We know mostly who have 2nd accounts and why, and where they are. I also do think there's something shady going on around df the past few weeks. I lost a well trusted member not too long ago, and it hurt, really truly deep down hurt, so yes it was not on a trusted member but a good friend. Now I have another wanting to leave, sent me a pm saying he did. I replied to him told him to do what was best for him... but today is 4th day he hasn't signed on.. when before he was on all the time, so.. I'm kinda wondering if there's a hidden 2nd account floating somewhere.. it makes u stop and think. Now as far as coming back, well I guess that depends on how the situation of leaving was handled.

Your post struck a chord with me because WP has lost some trusted members during my tenure. While it is discouraging at the time the result is a renewed resolve to be loyal to the squad. You have to think of the other members and what they are seeing from within the ranks. I have had to tell myself that the squad isn't me, its all of us from the departing trusted member to the brand new guy or even the pending request to join. We are, for the most part, all just virtual people here but interact in a manner that does create real friendships. No sense in sacrificing your personal values and ideals in the matter of dealing with others just because you can do so with relative anonymity on the internet. As Popeye said, "I yam who I yam".

If I want to pretend im someone else im doing it with Mrs. Viper with me as the pizza delivery guy and she as the woman who doesn't have the money to pay, not here with a second account or some silly shady stuff. What a waste of time.