Me personally I would never let my kid wife or anyone, touch my account I'm too.selfish.... .....but there is no need..... game uninstalls and installs quickly....I don't see a reason for sharing accounts other than boosting stats ....I understand dogs point of grabbing the tablet from someone if they gotta use restroom or are eating or something etc.......von i see ur point of view and understand your concerns....but I'm afraid there is already high ranked players that do this.....not to mention guys that have quit and handed high level accounts to those who didnt earn it....which shouldn't be allowed. Btm line.is how could this ever be enforced...??????

my 2 cents....
I don't condone this activity and wouldn't let some one use my acct.
But, if the problem is padding stats it's bad.
If the problem is the amount of play, think of it this way. If some one is retired (has no job) and can play more than I, why would I have a problem with that? I wouldn't say it's unfair, just because someone is able to play more than me.
But dot get me wrong here, if they are doing it to pad their stats, shame on them!

No harm done. Just a thread for chat. It's all opinionated ? Nice for reading.. reading does expound/ expand the mind ? Think of it lke this.. what if both players that were using the same account were not so good of an ace ? Yea.. they suck'd ? Lol would there still be a problem ? So the problem is not that two different players/ people/ pilots share the same account.. but rather that two Good players/ people/ pilots share the same account ? Sounds doubled standard to argue such case then right ? Two bad players can share.. it would of never made head lines. But when two good pilots share.. now it's a problem ? Interesting to me if I might say so my self ? Very intriguing ?
Don't know what non of this is or meant to the fullest capabilities I just said but ehm ? Yah, sounds interesting ? lol

Acegirl wrote:

What??

EXACTLY!

When I first started playing, long before joining a squad, and I basically just played to pass the time, I would let my oldest Step Grandson play around on the game. Kid loves games and he has his challenges in life. Give him a Wheel of Fortune game and that kid will beat the best! As for Dogfight, he was the only Pilot worse than me!

After becoming addicted, I stopped letting him play my account. Between the two of us in those couple of Months I believe we set a DF record in Deaths!

But, I think C.C. Summed it up the best, definitely agree with his opinion on the subject.

Acegirl wrote:

What?? Are you guys at it again???

Lol! At what again?

We were just having a nice lil chat just like the old days on zello.

(No need to go smearing Tom Cruz' s face at me.)

[*M]bzerkbzerk wrote:

Team Killer. wrote: Yes but if somebody else is playing on your account you're still competing with an individual not a robot. The individual you competing with may or may not be a skilled as the owner of the account if they are not then while they are racking up points to benefit themselves you are racking up points killing them to benefit yourself so it really doesn't make any difference who's at the controls

Well then, next time my boys have a karate competition, I will introduce that theory to their instructor. Hey master B, he's behind in points, let's throw in someone who can get more points for the win but give the win to my son. I'm sure my son would not understand why he won or why he received the award.

Guess I'm old fashioned like that, let them earn they're own respect, let them earn something regardless if it's karate or a game. Let them be in control and not someone else.

You're entitled to your opinion I am entitled to mine that's just the way it is. As for letting somebody else use my device to play the game if they enjoy it they will join its on their own device as long as they obey the rules and do not abuse the opportunity such as foul language and bad behavior I see no problem with it. After all it is a video game to compare it to karate is absurd my youngest son is a black belt Taekwondo he is also instructor of Taekwondo he has won many awards and has a wall full of trophy I would not compare his accomplishments to a video game anybody in my opinion and it is only my opinion that would compare their childs accomplishments in such a sport I might add contact sport. I will be nice here and say they are off their rocker and probably their medications. But that's just my opinion

whoops

U r apsoulutly correct,is just a thred for this thought. So what if it is a good pilot with two different accounts. Ex: first account he is top 200,then has another account diff name starts all over from the begining. That's one pilot two different accounts. I can't see that can be hurting anyone but that pilot himself.

tailzz,vip wrote: U r apsoulutly correct,is just a thred for this thought. So what if it is a good pilot with two different accounts. Ex: first account he is top 200,then has another account diff name starts all over from the begining. That's one pilot two different accounts. I can't see that can be hurting anyone but that pilot himself.

Now that's cheating!

Look, when you're killing your way thru a game, just laying waste to all those lower ranks and some MORAF has gone incognito with a noob account , it upsets your whole rhythm. If you enter a game and look at the in-game score board and see nothing but generals and below you should have a reasonable expectation of a win and a great kdr. Cheating bastards! No level 20 should have the experience of 40k kills! You're entitled to the expectation of leisurely walk-in-the-park game, after all you're a high rank for a reason. If some experienced player has to pad their stats by making others dismiss them as some lowly noob they are taking a clear advantage and dishonoring themselves and the whole dogfight community!

And what's worse is that other noobs see a fellow noob kicking butt and think "wow, he's the same level as me but he can fly circles around me and compete with the high ranks! I must really suck!" Then they get discouraged and leave the game to go play candy crush. It's like if a karate instructor entered a competition as a novice just to win a trophy!





(Go ahead, take this seriously, I dare you!)

Team Killer. wrote:

[*M]bzerkbzerk wrote:

Team Killer. wrote: Yes but if somebody else is playing on your account you're still competing with an individual not a robot. The individual you competing with may or may not be a skilled as the owner of the account if they are not then while they are racking up points to benefit themselves you are racking up points killing them to benefit yourself so it really doesn't make any difference who's at the controls

Well then, next time my boys have a karate competition, I will introduce that theory to their instructor. Hey master B, he's behind in points, let's throw in someone who can get more points for the win but give the win to my son. I'm sure my son would not understand why he won or why he received the award.

Guess I'm old fashioned like that, let them earn they're own respect, let them earn something regardless if it's karate or a game. Let them be in control and not someone else.

You're entitled to your opinion I am entitled to mine that's just the way it is. As for letting somebody else use my device to play the game if they enjoy it they will join its on their own device as long as they obey the rules and do not abuse the opportunity such as foul language and bad behavior I see no problem with it. After all it is a video game to compare it to karate is absurd my youngest son is a black belt Taekwondo he is also instructor of Taekwondo he has won many awards and has a wall full of trophy I would not compare his accomplishments to a video game anybody in my opinion and it is only my opinion that would compare their childs accomplishments in such a sport I might add contact sport. I will be nice here and say they are off their rocker and probably their medications. But that's just my opinion

It seemed to me that it was obvious that the not so smart guy who started this topic was referring to what I call a moral compass. Guess that slipped past you in your effort to engage. My observation based on many conversations with the green one so yes your opinion is off topic and strictly your's.

However, if you wish to discuss, stir or simply exchange thought on any topic that can be followed, please let me know so I can take those pills that tell the voices in my head to be polite.

[*M]bzerkbzerk wrote:

Team Killer. wrote:

[*M]bzerkbzerk wrote:

Team Killer. wrote: Yes but if somebody else is playing on your account you're still competing with an individual not a robot. The individual you competing with may or may not be a skilled as the owner of the account if they are not then while they are racking up points to benefit themselves you are racking up points killing them to benefit yourself so it really doesn't make any difference who's at the controls

Well then, next time my boys have a karate competition, I will introduce that theory to their instructor. Hey master B, he's behind in points, let's throw in someone who can get more points for the win but give the win to my son. I'm sure my son would not understand why he won or why he received the award.

Guess I'm old fashioned like that, let them earn they're own respect, let them earn something regardless if it's karate or a game. Let them be in control and not someone else.

You're entitled to your opinion I am entitled to mine that's just the way it is. As for letting somebody else use my device to play the game if they enjoy it they will join its on their own device as long as they obey the rules and do not abuse the opportunity such as foul language and bad behavior I see no problem with it. After all it is a video game to compare it to karate is absurd my youngest son is a black belt Taekwondo he is also instructor of Taekwondo he has won many awards and has a wall full of trophy I would not compare his accomplishments to a video game anybody in my opinion and it is only my opinion that would compare their childs accomplishments in such a sport I might add contact sport. I will be nice here and say they are off their rocker and probably their medications. But that's just my opinion

It seemed to me that it was obvious that the not so smart guy who started this topic was referring to what I call a moral compass. Guess that slipped past you in your effort to engage. My observation based on many conversations with the green one so yes your opinion is off topic and strictly your's.

However, if you wish to discuss, stir or simply exchange thought on any topic that can be followed, please let me know so I can take those pills that tell the voices in my head to be polite.

You really want to go there huh. And as far as whatever pills you taking I am sure you need them and her most likely prescribed by a certified psychologist

Team Killer. wrote:

[*M]bzerkbzerk wrote:

Team Killer. wrote:

[*M]bzerkbzerk wrote:

Team Killer. wrote: Yes but if somebody else is playing on your account you're still competing with an individual not a robot. The individual you competing with may or may not be a skilled as the owner of the account if they are not then while they are racking up points to benefit themselves you are racking up points killing them to benefit yourself so it really doesn't make any difference who's at the controls

Well then, next time my boys have a karate competition, I will introduce that theory to their instructor. Hey master B, he's behind in points, let's throw in someone who can get more points for the win but give the win to my son. I'm sure my son would not understand why he won or why he received the award.

Guess I'm old fashioned like that, let them earn they're own respect, let them earn something regardless if it's karate or a game. Let them be in control and not someone else.

You're entitled to your opinion I am entitled to mine that's just the way it is. As for letting somebody else use my device to play the game if they enjoy it they will join its on their own device as long as they obey the rules and do not abuse the opportunity such as foul language and bad behavior I see no problem with it. After all it is a video game to compare it to karate is absurd my youngest son is a black belt Taekwondo he is also instructor of Taekwondo he has won many awards and has a wall full of trophy I would not compare his accomplishments to a video game anybody in my opinion and it is only my opinion that would compare their childs accomplishments in such a sport I might add contact sport. I will be nice here and say they are off their rocker and probably their medications. But that's just my opinion

It seemed to me that it was obvious that the not so smart guy who started this topic was referring to what I call a moral compass. Guess that slipped past you in your effort to engage. My observation based on many conversations with the green one so yes your opinion is off topic and strictly your's.

However, if you wish to discuss, stir or simply exchange thought on any topic that can be followed, please let me know so I can take those pills that tell the voices in my head to be polite.

You really want to go there huh. And as far as whatever pills you taking I am sure you need them and her most likely prescribed by a certified psychologist

Well I have nothing better to do and this seems to be your release or form of engagement. Shall we begin? Let's say a different thread topic of your choice, pills seems to be a topic you like so we could start there, or therapy as you mention it so often which now has me intrigued. Went somewhere, not sure if where I'm going is what you're looking for, but wth, you like to play.

Don't you just heart the smell of warm APPLE PIE !!!!!

[NLR] McFate wrote:

tailzz,vip wrote: U r apsoulutly correct,is just a thred for this thought. So what if it is a good pilot with two different accounts. Ex: first account he is top 200,then has another account diff name starts all over from the begining. That's one pilot two different accounts. I can't see that can be hurting anyone but that pilot himself.

Now that's cheating!

Look, when you're killing your way thru a game, just laying waste to all those lower ranks and some MORAF has gone incognito with a noob account , it upsets your whole rhythm. If you enter a game and look at the in-game score board and see nothing but generals and below you should have a reasonable expectation of a win and a great kdr. Cheating bastards! No level 20 should have the experience of 40k kills! You're entitled to the expectation of leisurely walk-in-the-park game, after all you're a high rank for a reason. If some experienced player has to pad their stats by making others dismiss them as some lowly noob they are taking a clear advantage and dishonoring themselves and the whole dogfight community!

And what's worse is that other noobs see a fellow noob kicking butt and think "wow, he's the same level as me but he can fly circles around me and compete with the high ranks! I must really suck!" Then they get discouraged and leave the game to go play candy crush. It's like if a karate instructor entered a competition as a novice just to win a trophy!





(Go ahead, take this seriously, I dare you!)

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Whew, Mc!!!!!! Thank God I noticed those tiny letters!!!! My poor English and my tired eyes almost made me jump to fight you!!




Now that I've read those tiny letters, I can go back playing on my second accout. By the way, I am 270k points to reach "morafness" for the second time, and my plan is that, when I reach the point to have just 1 or 2 kills away from level 31, I will imediately quit the game, freeze the account, and begin another one from scratch - for the 3th time - cuz, in my humble opinion, there is NOTHING after morafness: in this case, the fun is the travel, not the destiny.

[LB] Pedrinho wrote:
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Whew, Mc!!!!!! Thank God I noticed those tiny letters!!!! My poor English and my tired eyes almost made me jump to fight you!!




Now that I've read those tiny letters, I can go back playing on my second accout. By the way, I am 270k points to reach "morafness" for the second time, and my plan is that, when I reach the point to have just 1 or 2 kills away from level 31, I will imediately quit the game, freeze the account, and begin another one from scratch - for the 3th time - cuz, in my humble opinion, there is NOTHING after morafness: in this case, the fun is the travel, not the destiny.

Sooooooo, Little Peter, you're looking for your next challenge?
You're just the man I've been looking for.
The ultimate challenge, can you gain points quicker than I can loose them?
We could make a great team. For 12 hours you gain points, and for 12 hours I loose them.

The real fun in life is not the journey, but helping others along their journey.
And you could make an old man very happy.

The rest of the DF community don't need to know, it will just be our little secret.

[LB] Pedrinho wrote:

[NLR] McFate wrote:

tailzz,vip wrote: U r apsoulutly correct,is just a thred for this thought. So what if it is a good pilot with two different accounts. Ex: first account he is top 200,then has another account diff name starts all over from the begining. That's one pilot two different accounts. I can't see that can be hurting anyone but that pilot himself.

Now that's cheating!

Look, when you're killing your way thru a game, just laying waste to all those lower ranks and some MORAF has gone incognito with a noob account , it upsets your whole rhythm. If you enter a game and look at the in-game score board and see nothing but generals and below you should have a reasonable expectation of a win and a great kdr. Cheating bastards! No level 20 should have the experience of 40k kills! You're entitled to the expectation of leisurely walk-in-the-park game, after all you're a high rank for a reason. If some experienced player has to pad their stats by making others dismiss them as some lowly noob they are taking a clear advantage and dishonoring themselves and the whole dogfight community!

And what's worse is that other noobs see a fellow noob kicking butt and think "wow, he's the same level as me but he can fly circles around me and compete with the high ranks! I must really suck!" Then they get discouraged and leave the game to go play candy crush. It's like if a karate instructor entered a competition as a novice just to win a trophy!





(Go ahead, take this seriously, I dare you!)

=============

Whew, Mc!!!!!! Thank God I noticed those tiny letters!!!! My poor English and my tired eyes almost made me jump to fight you!!




Now that I've read those tiny letters, I can go back playing on my second accout. By the way, I am 270k points to reach "morafness" for the second time, and my plan is that, when I reach the point to have just 1 or 2 kills away from level 31, I will imediately quit the game, freeze the account, and begin another one from scratch - for the 3th time - cuz, in my humble opinion, there is NOTHING after morafness: in this case, the fun is the travel, not the destiny.

I searched the forum to find out thoughts on creating a second account, my reason for wanting to do so is to start from scratch again and earn my way up again and not use real $ to upgrade planes, which I did do on this account. Some people think paying for planes is cheating, I see it as financially supporting the game, so by having a new account I get the best of both worlds.

So, as an iPad player, if I do go ahead and start a new account (hopefully with the blessing of the DF community and not being called a cheater) do I have to uninstall then re-install the game to create a new account, and it isn't possible to switch accounts without going through the reinstall process?

Damn, if that isn't some perspective.....

Sly,

On my devices I'd have to clear data, then restart the app, including going through the optimization and settings, etc in order to switch accounts.

I hope you caught the tone of sarcasm in my post in the quote above. I was just intending to point out that perspective is subjective.

slyguy wrote:

[LB] Pedrinho wrote:

[NLR] McFate wrote:

tailzz,vip wrote: U r apsoulutly correct,is just a thred for this thought. So what if it is a good pilot with two different accounts. Ex: first account he is top 200,then has another account diff name starts all over from the begining. That's one pilot two different accounts. I can't see that can be hurting anyone but that pilot himself.

Now that's cheating!

Look, when you're killing your way thru a game, just laying waste to all those lower ranks and some MORAF has gone incognito with a noob account , it upsets your whole rhythm. If you enter a game and look at the in-game score board and see nothing but generals and below you should have a reasonable expectation of a win and a great kdr. Cheating bastards! No level 20 should have the experience of 40k kills! You're entitled to the expectation of leisurely walk-in-the-park game, after all you're a high rank for a reason. If some experienced player has to pad their stats by making others dismiss them as some lowly noob they are taking a clear advantage and dishonoring themselves and the whole dogfight community!

And what's worse is that other noobs see a fellow noob kicking butt and think "wow, he's the same level as me but he can fly circles around me and compete with the high ranks! I must really suck!" Then they get discouraged and leave the game to go play candy crush. It's like if a karate instructor entered a competition as a novice just to win a trophy!





(Go ahead, take this seriously, I dare you!)

=============

Whew, Mc!!!!!! Thank God I noticed those tiny letters!!!! My poor English and my tired eyes almost made me jump to fight you!!




Now that I've read those tiny letters, I can go back playing on my second accout. By the way, I am 270k points to reach "morafness" for the second time, and my plan is that, when I reach the point to have just 1 or 2 kills away from level 31, I will imediately quit the game, freeze the account, and begin another one from scratch - for the 3th time - cuz, in my humble opinion, there is NOTHING after morafness: in this case, the fun is the travel, not the destiny.

I searched the forum to find out thoughts on creating a second account, my reason for wanting to do so is to start from scratch again and earn my way up again and not use real $ to upgrade planes, which I did do on this account. Some people think paying for planes is cheating, I see it as financially supporting the game, so by having a new account I get the best of both worlds.

So, as an iPad player, if I do go ahead and start a new account (hopefully with the blessing of the DF community and not being called a cheater) do I have to uninstall then re-install the game to create a new account, and it isn't possible to switch accounts without going through the reinstall process?

On IPad you have to delete and reinstall. Pedrinho made MORAF, then started over. I don't think anyone would consider this cheating. If they do, tell them to mind their business.

[*M]VonHuLK wrote:

slyguy wrote:

[LB] Pedrinho wrote:

[NLR] McFate wrote:

tailzz,vip wrote: U r apsoulutly correct,is just a thred for this thought. So what if it is a good pilot with two different accounts. Ex: first account he is top 200,then has another account diff name starts all over from the begining. That's one pilot two different accounts. I can't see that can be hurting anyone but that pilot himself.

Now that's cheating!

Look, when you're killing your way thru a game, just laying waste to all those lower ranks and some MORAF has gone incognito with a noob account , it upsets your whole rhythm. If you enter a game and look at the in-game score board and see nothing but generals and below you should have a reasonable expectation of a win and a great kdr. Cheating bastards! No level 20 should have the experience of 40k kills! You're entitled to the expectation of leisurely walk-in-the-park game, after all you're a high rank for a reason. If some experienced player has to pad their stats by making others dismiss them as some lowly noob they are taking a clear advantage and dishonoring themselves and the whole dogfight community!

And what's worse is that other noobs see a fellow noob kicking butt and think "wow, he's the same level as me but he can fly circles around me and compete with the high ranks! I must really suck!" Then they get discouraged and leave the game to go play candy crush. It's like if a karate instructor entered a competition as a novice just to win a trophy!





(Go ahead, take this seriously, I dare you!)

=============

Whew, Mc!!!!!! Thank God I noticed those tiny letters!!!! My poor English and my tired eyes almost made me jump to fight you!!




Now that I've read those tiny letters, I can go back playing on my second accout. By the way, I am 270k points to reach "morafness" for the second time, and my plan is that, when I reach the point to have just 1 or 2 kills away from level 31, I will imediately quit the game, freeze the account, and begin another one from scratch - for the 3th time - cuz, in my humble opinion, there is NOTHING after morafness: in this case, the fun is the travel, not the destiny.

I searched the forum to find out thoughts on creating a second account, my reason for wanting to do so is to start from scratch again and earn my way up again and not use real $ to upgrade planes, which I did do on this account. Some people think paying for planes is cheating, I see it as financially supporting the game, so by having a new account I get the best of both worlds.

So, as an iPad player, if I do go ahead and start a new account (hopefully with the blessing of the DF community and not being called a cheater) do I have to uninstall then re-install the game to create a new account, and it isn't possible to switch accounts without going through the reinstall process?

On IPad you have to delete and reinstall. Pedrinho made MORAF, then started over. I don't think anyone would consider this cheating. If they do, tell them to mind their business.

Yes McFate I did read the fine print and have read enough of your posts to know where you are coming from lol
VonHulk, that was my goal as well, to reach moraf then start anew. I would probably choose a user name like "Slyguy II" or "Slyguy2ndAcct" (although that one is a bit boring) so there could be no accusation of going incognito

I totally agree with minding your own business and if someone is playing on someone elses account its the account holders business and no one elses...i did it for a week and let my friend dcon use my account and let everyone now he was going to use it..but by far did he help rank me up or pad my stats...because i get more than 532 kills in seven days..and less deaths...i would wonder if its considered cheating if pilots fly with no night games as of i know some do as it helps them so they can see and not being able to have the night games why the enemy it shows darkness and the ones that dont have night games can see...all players should have the same advantage cause thats how zup programmed this game for all to have and change to dark and day...and if i am guilty of something i wasnt aware of i apologize.dcon never flew under my name..and it wont happen anymore and hasnt since ..ty MEAN FOKKER

[*M]VonHuLK wrote:

slyguy wrote:

[LB] Pedrinho wrote:

[NLR] McFate wrote:

tailzz,vip wrote: U r apsoulutly correct,is just a thred for this thought. So what if it is a good pilot with two different accounts. Ex: first account he is top 200,then has another account diff name starts all over from the begining. That's one pilot two different accounts. I can't see that can be hurting anyone but that pilot himself.

Now that's cheating!

Look, when you're killing your way thru a game, just laying waste to all those lower ranks and some MORAF has gone incognito with a noob account , it upsets your whole rhythm. If you enter a game and look at the in-game score board and see nothing but generals and below you should have a reasonable expectation of a win and a great kdr. Cheating bastards! No level 20 should have the experience of 40k kills! You're entitled to the expectation of leisurely walk-in-the-park game, after all you're a high rank for a reason. If some experienced player has to pad their stats by making others dismiss them as some lowly noob they are taking a clear advantage and dishonoring themselves and the whole dogfight community!

And what's worse is that other noobs see a fellow noob kicking butt and think "wow, he's the same level as me but he can fly circles around me and compete with the high ranks! I must really suck!" Then they get discouraged and leave the game to go play candy crush. It's like if a karate instructor entered a competition as a novice just to win a trophy!





(Go ahead, take this seriously, I dare you!)

=============

Whew, Mc!!!!!! Thank God I noticed those tiny letters!!!! My poor English and my tired eyes almost made me jump to fight you!!




Now that I've read those tiny letters, I can go back playing on my second accout. By the way, I am 270k points to reach "morafness" for the second time, and my plan is that, when I reach the point to have just 1 or 2 kills away from level 31, I will imediately quit the game, freeze the account, and begin another one from scratch - for the 3th time - cuz, in my humble opinion, there is NOTHING after morafness: in this case, the fun is the travel, not the destiny.

I searched the forum to find out thoughts on creating a second account, my reason for wanting to do so is to start from scratch again and earn my way up again and not use real $ to upgrade planes, which I did do on this account. Some people think paying for planes is cheating, I see it as financially supporting the game, so by having a new account I get the best of both worlds.

So, as an iPad player, if I do go ahead and start a new account (hopefully with the blessing of the DF community and not being called a cheater) do I have to uninstall then re-install the game to create a new account, and it isn't possible to switch accounts without going through the reinstall process?

On IPad you have to delete and reinstall. Pedrinho made MORAF, then started over. I don't think anyone would consider this cheating. If they do, tell them to mind their business.