Question your on bombing run get close to base run out of ammo. What to do. Drop an run to reload? Drop and be a deversion? Or continue on to try to bomb the base.hard if facing 3 reds.

It's nice to see someone asking questions about changing strategy instead of just doing the same old thing and asking zuperman for more bullets.

The choice is yours. Others may try to bully you into staying in the 'valley of death' but there are other ways to play the game. Don't be afraid to be creative.




Also see:
The Dogfight Meta (By Luna)

Luna wrote:

Metagame (n)

The highest level of strategy in many complex games, metagame refers to any aspect of strategy that involves thinking about what your opponent is thinking you are thinking.

Metagame comes into play in any game where no single strategy is dominant and opposing sides are aware of multiple strategies that can succeed dependent upon opponents' actions. In order to perform at the highest level, it then becomes necessary to think about what your opponent thinks you will do (which may depend on what he thinks you think he thinks he will do, etc.) and to make decisions based on clues regarding what level they are thinking on.

thank you mcfate. I drop an become deversion but am called dropper.then I tell people that I didnt drop untill out of ammo.that helps calm people.being deversion more effective then anything that I can do at that point

[NLR] McFate wrote: It's nice to see someone asking questions about changing strategy instead of just doing the same old thing and asking zuperman for more bullets.

The choice is yours. Others may try to bully you into staying in the 'valley of death' but there are other ways to play the game. Don't be afraid to be creative.

The golden rule of Dogfight:
"Let others have fun any you'll have fun."
From Let people take off (By zuperman)

Also see:
The Dogfight Meta (By Luna)

Luna wrote:

Metagame (n)

The highest level of strategy in many complex games, metagame refers to any aspect of strategy that involves thinking about what your opponent is thinking you are thinking.

Metagame comes into play in any game where no single strategy is dominant and opposing sides are aware of multiple strategies that can succeed dependent upon opponents' actions. In order to perform at the highest level, it then becomes necessary to think about what your opponent thinks you will do (which may depend on what he thinks you think he thinks he will do, etc.) and to make decisions based on clues regarding what level they are thinking on.

Davy says, by using the word BULLY are you referring to me as I'm called BULLY a lot and I don't know why


This morning myself and TR were in a glitchy game that would never have ended if we hadn't been creative by going around and/or high. TR actually finished the game by bombing at a high altitude. The general response was THANK GOODNESS. I'm a straight up down the middle guy but because of the balanced games we are going to have to adapt and overcome.

I never did mind sneaking, I always thought that was a normal part of the game, actually it was when I first signed up.

I guess the thing I really hate is camping and spawnkilling.

Well if i run out of ammo. Depending on.where i am depends on what i do. If im.right at the base i usually try evasive maneuvers. I try not to fly straight in thats asking to.get shot. If i get a hanger great if not i have kept them.busy for that precious few seconds. If i can get into tank range then i go for the tank. I couldnt hit a city with one.now. but again it buys my team those few seconds. And like.davy said i dont mind sneaking i do it myself. But when the teams are six on two five on one i still.think sneaking at that time is underhanded

Do you guys ever take your finger of the fire button,i never run out of ammo.

You could just crash and reload

Gizmo541 wrote: Do you guys ever take your finger of the fire button,i never run out of ammo.

I usually have ammo left. Except for qhen raptor breaks into my hanger and err umm borrows some

It's rare for me to run out of ammo in a BTB, but when it has happened I still try to hit my objective which is the hangers (that's the mission goal at the end of the day).

Evasive maneuvers, and stay out of your wing mans line of fire to help them cover you.

Gizmo541 wrote: Do you guys ever take your finger of the fire button,i never run out of ammo.

Lol it seems that wya bro but its not. Espacially when ur hitting the dam planes wing round after round it doesn't show. The natural thing is to keep shooting.

I see lots of planes running out of ammo in lower tier planes.with the amount of hits needed always guestion mark when there tanks take 10 hits planes up to six hits you have to make sure there dead.then parachutes kill you from amile away so you expend ammo dealing with the chute so in tough bth game most lower tier planes run out of ammo so upper tier plane with more ammo may not run out.but be honest you run out now.

That means that instead of shooting from a mile, use your bullets more effectively

You know that on the first manual on WWI aviation, one of the very first rules was to only shoot when having a clear shot and do not waste ammo? You ran out of it easily and it was expensive.

In Dogfight as soon as I see a red on the map, I begin watching bullets flying by, although I'm merely a dot on their vision. That's bad bad bad. I may need to reduce the bullet amount to allow for more combat and less head-on-shot-from-mile-and-get-lucky game.

Dont you dare zup many of us have honed our skills on the long range shot. We dont spry and pray. We have learned over years of flying to shoot that dot from.a.distance it not.luck not by any means. Yes it takes.a.long time.to get good at it and there are many many people that are very skilled at doing it

I agree, we have spent the time and effort to became skilled at shooting. I like it this way. If anything I believe the larger planes is a advantage to the skilled shooter. Some are suffering Hugh losses because they are easy to see. I like the tiny planes myself, I think it's more fair to the ones learning to advance in the game to be a small dot rather than a large dot.

I can't wait for the Apple update and the new missions. I hear good things about it.

Don't take it personal, that you are skilled at this does not mean that no player does what I said.
I'm constantly attacked by level 3-10 players doing exactly what I just described: spray and hope for the best.

There are very few who actually do it as you guys do.

Another option I can add is to really add physics to the bullets. Right now they fly a straight path to infinity. They should do a curve as they slow down. This will make it harder to hit from far away and it is more realistic.

zuperman wrote:
Another option I can add is to really add physics to the bullets. Right now they fly a straight path to infinity. They should do a curve as they slow down. This will make it harder to hit from far away and it is more realistic.

Trajectory!

Well i can say this zup most of the lower level pilots especially the new guy dont know how to adjust their sensitivity or set the plane to.the correct angle for their play style. I help.new pilots all the time by telling them just that and i always get a thanks it has helped me alot. And i also see alot of lower pilots getting into the dog fights with higer grade pilots and cannot figue out why their getting shot down so easy. The game is hard enough for new people now adding trajectories to the bullets will only make it impossible for the new pilots to shoot anything. Many haven't even figured out ho to lead the planes so the rounds meet the plane they just shoot straight at it thinking they will hit it. Add more traing missions and make the new pilots coming into the game have to fly them before they just jump in with us and get murdered for lack of knowledge

LOL I would just write oh chat, "Guy's I'm out of ammo! Please don't shoot me!" Nu jokes. I would drop one bomb (so keep one) and then try get through.

I think we have too many rounds as it is. It makes you more carful and it's more challenging.

Zup that's such a good idea!!!! Please please please do that!

Darraxx has a point too though.. maybe add physics once over Major Gen. That would help New players to get into the game as well. I mean, loads of new guys just get wasted by old hands. This could be a way to bridge the gap...?

Would i like the trajectories on rounds hell.yeah i would. But think of the noobs coming into the game they cant even get out of their own way. And thats where this game will grow getting new people in that want to pay. We cannot make it impossible for them to hit the broad side of a barn. Just beacuse we all learned over the years how to shoot only means we all need to take the time to teach the new guys. So.you give up a kill or two its not like you wont be a moraf. Take the time to let them.learn when you have a chance in a one on one teach them.lead on planes let them.get a shot on you tell.them about the sensitivity and controls. The more they now the better the game gets the les crap zup gets the game only benefits. We are all not so great as we cant take the time to help the new guys and zup