gen you carry on playing the way you do
they were only pi**ed because you were killing them.
i will fly without a bomb when iam up against it but i also enjoy the thrill of trying to get my bomb in.
if it helps win the game,well that the point of the game.
always good seeing you in a game gen you will never get any complaints from me when you fill me with lead

see you in the skies bud.

why!!


why not

ktheo wrote: gen you carry on playing the way you do
they were only pi**ed because you were killing them.
i will fly without a bomb when iam up against it but i also enjoy the thrill of trying to get my bomb in.
if it helps win the game,well that the point of the game.
always good seeing you in a game gen you will never get any complaints from me when you fill me with lead

see you in the skies bud.

Yup

General jackson wrote: Hello skydavis...was in a game with you, manfred, gaavster, 93, coolhandluke and i finally got to chase with you for the first time.....not sure how long it lasted....was a pleasure ....until some new guy shot me down ...lol .....seems to be the case alot....i get to chase and when i get into it, some one comes along and shoots me...oh well, all in fun... till the next time
By the way everyone in that game are great people/players.

Take care

Not the 1st time but probably the 50th time. I see you a quit a bit.

Skydavis1 wrote:

General jackson wrote: Hello skydavis...was in a game with you, manfred, gaavster, 93, coolhandluke and i finally got to chase with you for the first time.....not sure how long it lasted....was a pleasure ....until some new guy shot me down ...lol .....seems to be the case alot....i get to chase and when i get into it, some one comes along and shoots me...oh well, all in fun... till the next time
By the way everyone in that game are great people/players.

Take care

Not the 1st time but probably the 50th time. I see you a quit a bit.

I dont remember fighting you though....maybe awhile ago when i was newer...or you might have played under a different name....

Skydavis1 wrote: Hm dose the flag flamingscorp made me look to big to put up on this site. Dose every thing i wrote readable or did my banner thing cancel it out.

(Flamingscorp) what is that about?

He made me this.



It is pretty cool looking actually.

General jackson wrote:

Skydavis1 wrote:

General jackson wrote: Hello skydavis...was in a game with you, manfred, gaavster, 93, coolhandluke and i finally got to chase with you for the first time.....not sure how long it lasted....was a pleasure ....until some new guy shot me down ...lol .....seems to be the case alot....i get to chase and when i get into it, some one comes along and shoots me...oh well, all in fun... till the next time
By the way everyone in that game are great people/players.

Take care

Not the 1st time but probably the 50th time. I see you a quit a bit.

I dont remember fighting you though....maybe awhile ago when i was newer...or you might have played under a different name....

I usually play you on the days i play the game. I haven't played in 3 weeks since yesterday. I play you very often

Skydavis1 wrote:

General jackson wrote:

Skydavis1 wrote:

General jackson wrote: Hello skydavis...was in a game with you, manfred, gaavster, 93, coolhandluke and i finally got to chase with you for the first time.....not sure how long it lasted....was a pleasure ....until some new guy shot me down ...lol .....seems to be the case alot....i get to chase and when i get into it, some one comes along and shoots me...oh well, all in fun... till the next time
By the way everyone in that game are great people/players.

Take care

Not the 1st time but probably the 50th time. I see you a quit a bit.

I dont remember fighting you though....maybe awhile ago when i was newer...or you might have played under a different name....

I usually play you on the days i play the game. I haven't played in 3 weeks since yesterday. I play you very often

Under a different name? Because it sure hasnt been with skydavis....i maybe almost 40 but i havnt lost my memory yet......lol...when my memory starts to fail, enigma will dump me over to the m.o.m squad (senior citizens home)...

I know let's all drop our bombs then games will never end. Would u like that. If a noob sees a high ranking player drop bomb they will start to do same thing. That's y we have different games some were u have to bomb then there are the ones that u don't need a bomb. That's wat makes games go on for so long one guy flying around raking up kills. I rake up kills but I always have a bomb. Can't everone just play on the mission

B Strachan wrote: I know let's all drop our bombs then games will never end. Would u like that. If a noob sees a high ranking player drop bomb they will start to do same thing. That's y we have different games some were u have to bomb then there are the ones that u don't need a bomb. That's wat makes games go on for so long one guy flying around raking up kills. I rake up kills but I always have a bomb. Can't everone just play on the mission

Ok your mission as a red player will be to drop a bomb at my base.......my mission as a blue is to keep you from doing it.....

In capture the carrier game my mission will be to keep the reds off of the ships and also protect the blues that are already on it.

I dont rack up kills......most games i usually get between 7 and 20 kills/2+ deaths.........

B Strachan wrote: I know let's all drop our bombs then games will never end. Would u like that. If a noob sees a high ranking player drop bomb they will start to do same thing. That's y we have different games some were u have to bomb then there are the ones that u don't need a bomb. That's wat makes games go on for so long one guy flying around raking up kills. I rake up kills but I always have a bomb. Can't everone just play on the mission

There is also no point of keeping a bomb and letting the enemy keep pushing your guys back in a head on onslaught. There also is no point of carrying a bomb when some one is chasing you and they have no bomb. You would just get killd over and over and over. Hiding behind your bomb will not help you. Getting mad at someone for not having a bomb and saying i always fly with a bomb and saying if you are so good why don't you fly with a bomb. Doing that is just stupid. Why not drop the bomb once they are chasing you and lets see if you have the skill to get them or do you just use your bomb as a excuse to cover up your weak points. Some times you got to lay down the law by droping your bomb and killing the bomb droper a few times to prove you are better than the chap. I just find no sence of carrying a bomb and get killd over and over by a guy with out a bomb. Your bomb becomes useless if you do that. The bombs only job at that point is to make you a easier target.

Yes you do got to keep the mission in mind and bomb but you must relize to bomb you have to be able to get there and bomb and you have to be able to defend your base or ship. You cant do any of that if you have been pushed back by the enemy and are stuck at your base. You cant do that if you have a guy with no bomb killing you over and over because you have a bomb. Look at the big picture lad.

General jackson wrote: I was just in a bth game against samweb,seattle and another high rank player...everyone on their team except seattle was complaining about why i always drop my bomb and chase..i had hoagie and some others on my team including a noname..i told them i love to turn fight while my team bombs....i distract them ao my team can get in.....i kept killing them and they were getting a little upset....samweb said no one in my ranking does what i do...i said "oh well" .......whats up with that......i never recieved complaints like that before.......the way i see it is i love turn fighting, im not the best at long distance shooting but thats the way it is.....were they mad because they kept having to drop their bombs and chase me? Or because they kept getting ahot sown?......ever since i started playing, i never had so many complaints......seattle was the only red that didnt say anything, he has my respect.....


I dont meant to complain, but i expect new players to get upset but not higher ranks....

although it makes you a harder target i like when a few guys lead without bombs ...it mixes the game up and gives it another dimension .....takes more strategy and a dogfighter on your team to help win the game ...i have no problem with it at all....but i will tell my team though if a certain person doesnt carry a bomb just so they can counteract accordingly..its not a complaint.....so gen when i see u in a game i know there is going to be some dogfighting :)big tex and cactuses fly very similar syle as well ....what commander would send bombers in to a situation anyway without a couple dogfighters to cover

.....i just love battles when there is chaos every where ...tanks on the ground..... dogfighting ...guys up high trying to sneak one in...there is just so many strategies...it makes it more fun

B Strachan wrote: I know let's all drop our bombs then games will never end. Would u like that. If a noob sees a high ranking player drop bomb they will start to do same thing. That's y we have different games some were u have to bomb then there are the ones that u don't need a bomb. That's wat makes games go on for so long one guy flying around raking up kills. I rake up kills but I always have a bomb. Can't everone just play on the mission

B strachan read all the post. They explained it already

Dawsonn57 wrote:

General jackson wrote: I was just in a bth game against samweb,seattle and another high rank player...everyone on their team except seattle was complaining about why i always drop my bomb and chase..i had hoagie and some others on my team including a noname..i told them i love to turn fight while my team bombs....i distract them ao my team can get in.....i kept killing them and they were getting a little upset....samweb said no one in my ranking does what i do...i said "oh well" .......whats up with that......i never recieved complaints like that before.......the way i see it is i love turn fighting, im not the best at long distance shooting but thats the way it is.....were they mad because they kept having to drop their bombs and chase me? Or because they kept getting ahot sown?......ever since i started playing, i never had so many complaints......seattle was the only red that didnt say anything, he has my respect.....


I dont meant to complain, but i expect new players to get upset but not higher ranks....

although it makes you a harder target i like when a few guys lead without bombs ...it mixes the game up and gives it another dimension .....takes more strategy and a dogfighter on your team to help win the game ...i have no problem with it at all....but i will tell my team though if a certain person doesnt carry a bomb just so they can counteract accordingly..its not a complaint.....so gen when i see u in a game i know there is going to be some dogfighting :)big tex and cactuses fly very similar syle as well ....what commander would send bombers in to a situation anyway without a couple dogfighters to cover

.....i just love battles when there is chaos every where ...tanks on the ground..... dogfighting ...guys up high trying to sneak one in...there is just so many strategies...it makes it more fun

I agree with you 100%. You know what would be really fun? A combined arms mission - somehow allow more than 8 players at a time, and have the option to start as a tank. Zuper would probably have to make the tanks much tougher to destroy, but how much fun would a capture the base mission with tanks, counterair, and air defense be??

wow this has opened up a big can of worms(a uk saying)
its good to have debate thats what makes this game such good fun to play.

now come on guys/girls lets go sort it out in the skies

While I have followed this debate with interest, and apart from generally agreeing that results will vary depending on local conditions, I don't feel qualified to have a strong opinion one way or the other about "laden" vs "unladen" flying. That's because I'm equally bad at either, both and everything else!

As such my own personal strategy if you can call it that is this: locate the nearest hail of bullets, fly into it with guns blazing and, whether I'm in one or more pieces when I come out the other side (usually the latter), hopefully I will have inflicted some damage to the opposing team en route (hopefully outweighing collateral damage unwittingly inflicted on teammates!)

In short, I'm just a plain old, no-finesse brawler, through and through. Sometimes this approach, again depending on circumstances, requires me to drop my bomb. Other times not. Regardless, it often requires me to put myself in harm's way (granted, mostly through my own stupidity), absorb immense quantities of bullets, and rack up staggering numbers of "deads" which explains my abysmal K/D ratio (about which I care not a rat's arse). Works for me! I leveled up to my current rank the other day, and within a day, day and a half (yay for long weekends!) I'm in the top 25 of that rank. If I obsessed over K/D I'd still be wallowing in the bowels of unexalted rankdom.

The only "skills" I reliably depend on is to keep getting up off the floor and coming back for more, and, once I commit to a game (barring factors beyond control like dropped connection and "real world" interruptions) to see it through to the end, for better or worse.

So come on all you finesse flyers, turn artists, prima donna bombers, chute show-offs and tank jockeys . . . let's BRAWL!

If you find me on the other side you'll experience the audacity of bopes . . . and remember, no matter how many times you knock me down, bopes springs eternal.

Oh, my only other takeway for me from this debate: If I ever find myself on the same side as B Strachan in a bombing game, you can be DAMN sure I will NOT, under ANY circumstances, drop my bomb! In fact, if possible I would even go so far as to steal other people's bombs, strap them to my plane until it's too heavy to fly, and roll it across the killing fields to park it by the opposing hangars, where I will invite B to bomb ME! That's what I'm talkin 'bout . . . team spirit!

Those were big posts with great information guys
I love reading them

bopes wrote: While I have followed this debate with interest, and apart from generally agreeing that results will vary depending on local conditions, I don't feel qualified to have a strong opinion one way or the other about "laden" vs "unladen" flying. That's because I'm equally bad at either, both and everything else!

As such my own personal strategy if you can call it that is this: locate the nearest hail of bullets, fly into it with guns blazing and, whether I'm in one or more pieces when I come out the other side (usually the latter), hopefully I will have inflicted some damage to the opposing team en route (hopefully outweighing collateral damage unwittingly inflicted on teammates!)

In short, I'm just a plain old, no-finesse brawler, through and through. Sometimes this approach, again depending on circumstances, requires me to drop my bomb. Other times not. Regardless, it often requires me to put myself in harm's way (granted, mostly through my own stupidity), absorb immense quantities of bullets, and rack up staggering numbers of "deads" which explains my abysmal K/D ratio (about which I care not a rat's arse). Works for me! I leveled up to my current rank the other day, and within a day, day and a half (yay for long weekends!) I'm in the top 25 of that rank. If I obsessed over K/D I'd still be wallowing in the bowels of unexalted rankdom.

The only "skills" I reliably depend on is to keep getting up off the floor and coming back for more, and, once I commit to a game (barring factors beyond control like dropped connection and "real world" interruptions) to see it through to the end, for better or worse.

So come on all you finesse flyers, turn artists, prima donna bombers, chute show-offs and tank jockeys . . . let's BRAWL!

If you find me on the other side you'll experience the audacity of bopes . . . and remember, no matter how many times you knock me down, bopes springs eternal.

Oh, my only other takeway for me from this debate: If I ever find myself on the same side as B Strachan in a bombing game, you can be DAMN sure I will NOT, under ANY circumstances, drop my bomb! In fact, if possible I would even go so far as to steal other people's bombs, strap them to my plane until it's too heavy to fly, and roll it across the killing fields to park it by the opposing hangars, where I will invite B to bomb ME! That's what I'm talkin 'bout . . . team spirit!

lol.

I fly without pants.... I do wear flip flops.

dentinhead wrote: I fly without pants.... I do wear flip flops.

I have seen THIS sight, as he's peeing in the flowers, out the window during breakfast. I can't erase the picture from my mind. And BESSE doesn't want it to disappear from hers!

By the way DENT...how's FLY's teeth working?

Skydavis1 wrote:

bopes wrote: While I have followed this debate with interest, and apart from generally agreeing that results will vary depending on local conditions, I don't feel qualified to have a strong opinion one way or the other about "laden" vs "unladen" flying. That's because I'm equally bad at either, both and everything else!

As such my own personal strategy if you can call it that is this: locate the nearest hail of bullets, fly into it with guns blazing and, whether I'm in one or more pieces when I come out the other side (usually the latter), hopefully I will have inflicted some damage to the opposing team en route (hopefully outweighing collateral damage unwittingly inflicted on teammates!)

In short, I'm just a plain old, no-finesse brawler, through and through. Sometimes this approach, again depending on circumstances, requires me to drop my bomb. Other times not. Regardless, it often requires me to put myself in harm's way (granted, mostly through my own stupidity), absorb immense quantities of bullets, and rack up staggering numbers of "deads" which explains my abysmal K/D ratio (about which I care not a rat's arse). Works for me! I leveled up to my current rank the other day, and within a day, day and a half (yay for long weekends!) I'm in the top 25 of that rank. If I obsessed over K/D I'd still be wallowing in the bowels of unexalted rankdom.

The only "skills" I reliably depend on is to keep getting up off the floor and coming back for more, and, once I commit to a game (barring factors beyond control like dropped connection and "real world" interruptions) to see it through to the end, for better or worse.

So come on all you finesse flyers, turn artists, prima donna bombers, chute show-offs and tank jockeys . . . let's BRAWL!

If you find me on the other side you'll experience the audacity of bopes . . . and remember, no matter how many times you knock me down, bopes springs eternal.

Oh, my only other takeway for me from this debate: If I ever find myself on the same side as B Strachan in a bombing game, you can be DAMN sure I will NOT, under ANY circumstances, drop my bomb! In fact, if possible I would even go so far as to steal other people's bombs, strap them to my plane until it's too heavy to fly, and roll it across the killing fields to park it by the opposing hangars, where I will invite B to bomb ME! That's what I'm talkin 'bout . . . team spirit!

lol.

DANG, bopes! Let's see.......Nope, I can't touch that! oh, except to say that you stole my playbook! Or, did I steal yours? Oh well.....

Paul Mantz wrote -I have seen THIS sight, as he's peeing in the flowers, out the window during breakfast. I can't erase the picture from my mind. And BESSE doesn't want it to disappear from hers!

By the way DENT...how's FLY's teeth working?[/quote]


I wrote -They work great for hanging undies on the clothes line...heh heh

dentinhead wrote: Paul Mantz wrote -I have seen THIS sight, as he's peeing in the flowers, out the window during breakfast. I can't erase the picture from my mind. And BESSE doesn't want it to disappear from hers!

By the way DENT...how's FLY's teeth working?

I wrote -They work great for hanging undies on the clothes line...heh heh [/quote]


lol

As I noted in my original post, I'd vote that airplanes flew the same loaded or unloaded or at the very least, the difference wasn't so pronouced. I think the flight physics are much more realistic loaded. Unloaded is just ridiculous - airplanes fly like they can disrupt the gravitational field. Complete change of direction at 160 mph with no apparent effect of inertia at all. More like a ballon with the air let out than an airplane lol. These old crates would've disintigrated under the stress of these maneuvers. I know it's a game and not a simulation but sometimes I do yearn for a little more realism.

I would like to go just a little bit faster...lol

lol. I think planes are good the way the are lets not make them faster by all means.

General jackson wrote: I would like to go just a little bit faster...lol

Do the fred flinstone

Skydavis1 wrote: lol. I think planes are good the way the are lets not make them faster by all means.

If you count lag jumps then they already bend the fabric of space and time.