bomer1 wrote: I only chase in a dogdight or zep. Other games ur suppose to bomb so i think u should bomb. U can xhallenge someone that u want to fight, but otherwise i dont think that a peraon that never bomb is of anyuse to the team. I dont care that much when someone chases me with bomb drop but i hate when they are on my team because they dont help. And u said that it help team get in and bomb which is not true. Other team woupd just take a sec to shoottthe guy bombing then get back to the chase. I respect that u like chasing and u should. I usually ask them. And if they say no then we just play head on. So that way u get better at head on and chasing. If u onyly chase then what if ur team was full of noobs, who wouod bomb. Why do u think that the 2 best xhasers skydavis and dawsonn try going head on.

Bomber you use to drop your bomb until you became a high rank remember.

You're not doing nothing wrong gen. Keep playing the way you like to play. I've played with and against you and I have never thought that you played unfair.

Hey, General. I can't tell you how many times we have won together BECAUSE our contrasting styles. As I flew high or around and you went in and kept them busy, I could bomb and then keep them busy while you got a bomb and returned with yours. I don't get many kills, because I can't see them, but I can sure avoid bullets as I sucker some away from the target. I have learned that wins are more satisfying to me for this reason. I get called names, too. In the end, our team wins! Ranking in this game is determined by time played. Everyone ranks up. It just takes longer for some...like me. YOU are a winner no matter how you fly. YOU HAVE CLASS! Keep it up!

When I get back I'll show you how to hover and become "invisible" for a second. That REALLY ticks them off!

General jackson wrote:

bomer1 wrote: Thats not really a creative way to win. There is no creative way to win, gen why sont u chase and go head on. U try to be amazing at both, u should be good at head on and chasing. And use urself as a weapon not a distraction. U should be able to win because of u and how do u bomb with noobs on ur team. I havent lost a game in months, i dont distract people by chasing them, go on bomb and then chase and game over. Win from all side. It helps on rankong web as bombed hangers, kills fast, and easier to climb the rankomg web. Much much faster.

First off head on has always been difficult due to my connection....somtimes my connection is good so i can shoot head on....

Secondly whether i bomb or not, when i make it to the red's base i chase the pilots who are taking off and distract them while my team bombs.....works alot.......and i rack up kills....look at my kill/death ratio (not that it matters)

Players can be creative on how they chase......

Y do u fly all the way to the other airport with no bomb. If u can get there u should be able to bomb . No

B Strachan wrote:

General jackson wrote: Y do u fly all the way to the other airport with no bomb. If u can get there u should be able to bomb . No

I totally agree with your point, B. However, it seems that the majority of the time the gunfight seems to take place nearer the middle.
That's why when I arrive to bomb there always appears to be someone spawning. I evade, drop, then confuse. I never spawnkill. If a spawnkiller is doing it to new folks I tell them to let them up, then we take care of business.

An "ace" should be able to fight with a bomb. I can and I'm no ace. Some people think in a box and won't get out.

Allied wrote: I do that too.In bomb the carrier games i drop it and land on enemy carrier.Somebody shoots me and i become a tank and bomb the carrier.

Ok now That's cheating

Farcanal wrote: You are fine in what you do gen jack it's a multifaceted game with many types of pilots displaying different styles you have to be able to adapt to those styles to defend your end of the map or help your team bomb.

I don't think flying light is wrong or semi cheating , team killing or spawn killing are the only things that are worth moaning about IMO.

Keep flying the way you do mate hope to tangle with you in game soon !.

Cheers.

...what Cloud and Farc said. I'd only add that the choice is often dictated by situation...when I spawn in a bunch of red ink I'm d**n well dropping the bomb...after I drop I going to chase as much as possible to get my teammates in...

...but Farc I also like moaning about the 'no-names' too...

Alex is RED!!!!!

VortexIII wrote:

Allied wrote: I do that too.In bomb the carrier games i drop it and land on enemy carrier.Somebody shoots me and i become a tank and bomb the carrier.

Ok now That's cheating

That's not cheating
That's playing the game by the realitivity.

B Strachan wrote:

General jackson wrote:

bomer1 wrote: Thats not really a creative way to win. There is no creative way to win, gen why sont u chase and go head on. U try to be amazing at both, u should be good at head on and chasing. And use urself as a weapon not a distraction. U should be able to win because of u and how do u bomb with noobs on ur team. I havent lost a game in months, i dont distract people by chasing them, go on bomb and then chase and game over. Win from all side. It helps on rankong web as bombed hangers, kills fast, and easier to climb the rankomg web. Much much faster.

First off head on has always been difficult due to my connection....somtimes my connection is good so i can shoot head on....

Secondly whether i bomb or not, when i make it to the red's base i chase the pilots who are taking off and distract them while my team bombs.....works alot.......and i rack up kills....look at my kill/death ratio (not that it matters)

Players can be creative on how they chase......

Y do u fly all the way to the other airport with no bomb. If u can get there u should be able to bomb . No

I dont always drop it as i take off.....as u can see on my ranking tbat i do bomb.....i drop it if i am pretty sure i cant get through......once in awhile i will go way left or right or way up high.....

I agree with cloud.... I had someone complain about me dropping my bomb. I alway's try to carry. I had 5 to 6 reds coming at me all at once all good players. I had no chance and I was getting sick of getting shot down. I started dropping my bomb and making it harder for them.. Boy did I get the Boot up the WAAAZOOO the complaining started right away. They didn't care They had 5 to 6 on their side all good players. ahhh.... If you catch me without a bomb there's a reason.

General You could take me down with an explosive round and spit on my flaming wreckage as you flyby. Your still a friend... alway's will be. I have alway's known you fly without a bomb.

dentinhead wrote: I agree with cloud.... I had someone complain about me dropping my bomb. I alway's try to carry. I had 5 to 6 reds coming at me all at once all good players. I had no chance and I was getting sick of getting shot down. I started dropping my bomb and making it harder for them.. Boy did I get the Boot up the WAAAZOOO the complaining started right away. They didn't care They had 5 to 6 on their side all good players. ahhh.... If you catch me without a bomb there's a reason.

General You could take me down with an explosive round and spit on my flaming wreckage as you flyby. Your still a friend... alway's will be. I have alway's known you fly without a bomb.

Dents I barrows your albatross
Sorry

I saw the cake crumbs on the floor.

Paul Mantz, Jr. wrote:

B Strachan wrote:

General jackson wrote: Y do u fly all the way to the other airport with no bomb. If u can get there u should be able to bomb . No

I totally agree with your point, B. However, it seems that the majority of the time the gunfight seems to take place nearer the middle.
That's why when I arrive to bomb there always appears to be someone spawning. I evade, drop, then confuse. I never spawnkill. If a spawnkiller is doing it to new folks I tell them to let them up, then we take care of business.

An "ace" should be able to fight with a bomb. I can and I'm no ace. Some people think in a box and won't get out.

Lol...i had to read that a few times. Lol

I use to drop my bomb as a noob, then i stopped and started going head on, then i started chasing again, and now i do both. But usually i only play if there is an ace to challenge otherwise i leave, and gen its not wrong at all, i think u should chase. I like chasing better too, just saying it doesnt hurt to know how to shoot head on either.

General jackson wrote: First off i have helped winning many games by doing what i do...i have been complimented by many and also while in game my team members tell me to keep the reds occuppied while they bomb, and you know what? We win many times....also if i am in a game with new players, then i bomb, otherwise the game will be lost....you saying chasers dont help is not true.....i dont chase just for kills...preoccupying the enemy is a good thing.

I use some of the same strategies myself. When I have noobs on my team I drop my bomb and try to keep their path clear to bomb and I have won many games this way. I find that most noobs bomb better than fight especially if there are aces on the opposing team, so I choose to take on the experienced players so the noobs on my team can make their bombing run safely.

bomer1 wrote: I use to drop my bomb as a noob, then i stopped and started going head on, then i started chasing again, and now i do both. But usually i only play if there is an ace to challenge otherwise i leave, and gen its not wrong at all, i think u should chase. I like chasing better too, just saying it doesnt hurt to know how to shoot head on either.

I was just in a game and its often hard to shoot atraight when i glitch....i tried and cant keep plane steady due to the glitching....thats one of the reasons i started chasing.....its rare that i have good smooth connection.....when i do have a excellent connection, i shoot straight as an arrow and hit the enemy.......the last game i played a few minutes ago was glitchy and new players would shoot me down, when i tried going head on...lol.....

Jacob10000 wrote:

General jackson wrote: First off i have helped winning many games by doing what i do...i have been complimented by many and also while in game my team members tell me to keep the reds occuppied while they bomb, and you know what? We win many times....also if i am in a game with new players, then i bomb, otherwise the game will be lost....you saying chasers dont help is not true.....i dont chase just for kills...preoccupying the enemy is a good thing.

I use some of the same strategies myself. When I have noobs on my team I drop my bomb and try to keep their path clear to bomb and I have won many games this way. I find that most noobs bomb better than fight especially if there are aces on the opposing team, so I choose to take on the experienced players so the noobs on my team can make their bombing run safely.

Thanks jacob....how refreshing to have someone from my squad come on here on my behalf

Thanks

General I was in the tail end of that game with you and we won. When I came in you were the top pilot on our side. So whatever strategy you used worked. (not that I helped much, spent most of my time tank gardening )

bopes wrote: General I was in the tail end of that game with you and we won. When I came in you were the top pilot on our side. So whatever strategy you used worked. (not that I helped much, spent most of my time tank gardening )

Believe me you helped......even if you harvest all the tanks....someone on a team should....its very helpful
thanks bopes

Good lord this is one heck of a argument. I say its the lads choice of how he flys. I will fly with a bomb and with out a bomb depending on how things are going. Like for instance if i am in a game and i am out gunned and they are getting close to our base and tanking and not giving us time to get to the enemy base i will lose the bomb and shoot the living daylights out of every enemy that heads to our base and every tank. If the odds are against you and your going to lose if you can't defend your base because of a bomb drop the bloody thing and make the enemy pay for there victory. Blow them out of the sky as many times as you can before they win if the game is hopeless.

If you got a pilot that is a master at a head on on the other team and is just destroying you lose the bomb and give them a hard time. If your beating me in a head on over and over i am not going to let you off easy and keep giving you kills of me i am going to go to my strong point so i can blow you up. In doing this i can cause a lot of problems. I can push the enemy back to there door step while my team takes out there tanks and acts as a clean up crew. They can then get in and bomb. They can climb up to a hight and dive in and bomb as well. They can mix things up instead of just flying straight to the enemies base.

If the game is just stalled and every one dies in the middle of the map and no one is gaining ground i will go and lose the bomb and push the enemy back and let my guy in to bomb them. I will try to bomb as well once i have got them pushed back and there trying to recover from the blows and trying to clean my team mates out of the sky over there base. It lets me get closer to the enemy base before i have to face anyone in a head on were it is anyone game. In a head on you basically just got to get 2 lucky shots in and you have blown the enemy out of the air.

I will also lose the bomb if i miss some on in a head on they fly by me and i see or hear there bomb drop. If there bomb dose not drop i will whip around with the bomb and blast them out of the sky if they drop the bomb i will lose mine and get them. It also depends on how well the turn with out a bomb on wether i drop it or not. Some times i can force them to over shoot me and i can kill them and then go on my way.

I wont drop my bomb if the odds are in my favor and I can basically out mach all the enemies in a head on and my team is pushing forward. But if the enemy is wining sending people up high gaining ground i will lose the bomb and push them back to there base or make them pay for every bomb they get in and for there victory.

Going with bomb or without a bomb are all effective. People need to stop whining when some one drops there bomb. If they drop there bomb drop yours and dogfight them and show them that you are the better pilot. Just siting there with your bomb after some one drops it makes you a easy kill and they will then continue to drop there bomb and go after you. When i her people whine about some one losing there just making them selves look like stupid 3 year olds crying because the game did not go there way. Honestly if some one whines when i drop my bomb i will keep droping it and killing them till they leave.

General jackson wrote:

bomer1 wrote: I use to drop my bomb as a noob, then i stopped and started going head on, then i started chasing again, and now i do both. But usually i only play if there is an ace to challenge otherwise i leave, and gen its not wrong at all, i think u should chase. I like chasing better too, just saying it doesnt hurt to know how to shoot head on either.

I was just in a game and its often hard to shoot atraight when i glitch....i tried and cant keep plane steady due to the glitching....thats one of the reasons i started chasing.....its rare that i have good smooth connection.....when i do have a excellent connection, i shoot straight as an arrow and hit the enemy.......the last game i played a few minutes ago was glitchy and new players would shoot me down, when i tried going head on...lol.....

I know what you mean.
I have not budgeted an upgrade to my home internet connection yet. There are usually at least 3 devices connected to internet at same time at home which really should not be a big deal. At the time we started internet service, 2 devices max at one time and never any video games.

Skydavis, very well said!

Hm dose the flag flamingscorp made me look to big to put up on this site. Dose every thing i wrote readable or did my banner thing cancel it out.

Skydavis, even though banner is a bit large, everything you said was perfectly readable.

Ok good.

Skydavis1 wrote: Good lord this is one heck of a argument. I say its the lads choice of how he flys. I will fly with a bomb and with out a bomb depending on how things are going. Like for instance if i am in a game and i am out gunned and they are getting close to our base and tanking and not giving us time to get to the enemy base i will lose the bomb and shoot the living daylights out of every enemy that heads to our base and every tank. If the odds are against you and your going to lose if you can't defend your base because of a bomb drop the bloody thing and make the enemy pay for there victory. Blow them out of the sky as many times as you can before they win if the game is hopeless.

If you got a pilot that is a master at a head on on the other team and is just destroying you lose the bomb and give them a hard time. If your beating me in a head on over and over i am not going to let you off easy and keep giving you kills of me i am going to go to my strong point so i can blow you up. In doing this i can cause a lot of problems. I can push the enemy back to there door step while my team takes out there tanks and acts as a clean up crew. They can then get in and bomb. They can climb up to a hight and dive in and bomb as well. They can mix things up instead of just flying straight to the enemies base.

If the game is just stalled and every one dies in the middle of the map and no one is gaining ground i will go and lose the bomb and push the enemy back and let my guy in to bomb them. I will try to bomb as well once i have got them pushed back and there trying to recover from the blows and trying to clean my team mates out of the sky over there base. It lets me get closer to the enemy base before i have to face anyone in a head on were it is anyone game. In a head on you basically just got to get 2 lucky shots in and you have blown the enemy out of the air.

I will also lose the bomb if i miss some on in a head on they fly by me and i see or hear there bomb drop. If there bomb dose not drop i will whip around with the bomb and blast them out of the sky if they drop the bomb i will lose mine and get them. It also depends on how well the turn with out a bomb on wether i drop it or not. Some times i can force them to over shoot me and i can kill them and then go on my way.

I wont drop my bomb if the odds are in my favor and I can basically out mach all the enemies in a head on and my team is pushing forward. But if the enemy is wining sending people up high gaining ground i will lose the bomb and push them back to there base or make them pay for every bomb they get in and for there victory.

Going with bomb or without a bomb are all effective. People need to stop whining when some one drops there bomb. If they drop there bomb drop yours and dogfight them and show them that you are the better pilot. Just siting there with your bomb after some one drops it makes you a easy kill and they will then continue to drop there bomb and go after you. When i her people whine about some one losing there just making them selves look like stupid 3 year olds crying because the game did not go there way. Honestly if some one whines when i drop my bomb i will keep droping it and killing them till they leave.

I'm reprinting this so anyone reading this thread will see the way it seems most of us feel. Succinct and non-threatening.

This is one of the best posts of all of DF TACTICAL posts! Superb! Thank you! YOU deserve a BIG piece of MOM's cake!

And to think it all started with 1 word: WHY?

SKY DESERVES EXTRA KARMA FROM ALL!

Glad you thank so.

But the cake isn't ready
Sky you'll receive our slice as early as tommarow

Hello skydavis...was in a game with you, manfred, gaavster, 93, coolhandluke and i finally got to chase with you for the first time.....not sure how long it lasted....was a pleasure ....until some new guy shot me down ...lol .....seems to be the case alot....i get to chase and when i get into it, some one comes along and shoots me...oh well, all in fun... till the next time
By the way everyone in that game are great people/players.

Take care