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Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11066

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One must gain points for just about everything in this game. And I know it is not in B Stachan's control, I am more just trying to see how the points thing works, I just don't want B to take offense, it's merely an observation, and B happens to be top dog right now. And I am totally not trying to dog anybody here, but shouldn't the best player be based on number of games won, kills, and hangers bombed. I don't know, it's just my opinion, but I always thought it was funny when I would get points for being shot down. I guess I would just expect the top players to be based on the good skills, like I said B Strachan, you have mad skill. But to Zuper.... mbizzi and watup have nearly 10,000 more kills. While B beat them in the other categories, 10,000 is a lot of kills, the total points has got to be close, how can we tell how many points a player has? Also, it seems like the number of points one gets for shooting someone down varies. Is there a set system for the number of points one receives per action (just curious)?

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11098

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The ranking system is meant to show who has most points, not skill. Im better than plenty of players above me, and worse than players below me. Its up to us to say who the best players are. Most wins and kills doesnt prove anything, i could leave any game that has a decent player in it and never get shot down.
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11105

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CalvinIsAwesome wrote: The ranking system is meant to show who has most points, not skill. Im better than plenty of players above me, and worse than players below me. Its up to us to say who the best players are. Most wins and kills doesnt prove anything, i could leave any game that has a decent player in it and never get shot down.


Okay, but I would expect it to be a representation of people with the most skill, and someone with 10k kills more seems like there should be more points there. And why points for crashes, and deads...does NASCAR give points for crashes, how about football, do you get points for being tackled. Just sayin'...I was more curious about how the points are awarded, but thought I would ask the question to see if Zuperman has reasoning behind giving points for "negative" actions in the game.
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11110

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You lose points when you crash.if you kill 30 planes in one go then you hit the ground in a crash befor you land at base. You will lose all thouse points for thouse kills. When you get shot down you don't gain or lose points unless you parashut to ground successfully. Then you will gain lsome points but very few.

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11111

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Skydavis1 wrote: You lose points when you crash.if you kill 30 planes in one go then you hit the ground in a crash befor you land at base. You will lose all thouse points for thouse kills....


What??? I didn't know that, see, that is why I brought it up. I might not agree, but knowing is power, had I known that, my style might have been a little different in games. How did you know that by the way, is it posted somewhere?
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11114

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Iv learned frome experience. That's also why I have a low deth rate. It tells me to stay away frome ground. Most of my crashes are midair collisions. Stay away frome the ground. Plus I like be tidy and clean in the game. I avoid two things bullets and the ground. B dose same thing frome I noticed that's why he's in first. He doesn't lose his points to the ground.

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11116

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having less kills but more points means that you kill better people
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11118

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Honestly I don't think so. When iv killd wat up b and mbizzi I get 50 points for kill. When I go and kill a asprent it's the same story 50 points.

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11129

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really? i never pay attention to points. i read an old topic (one of the first on the forum) and z and 420 were saying that he should make players ranking higher than u worth more points, but everyone else would be worth the normal amount.
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11139

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Player BP wrote: One must gain points for just about everything in this game. And I know it is not in B Stachan's control, I am more just trying to see how the points thing works, I just don't want B to take offense, it's merely an observation, and B happens to be top dog right now. And I am totally not trying to dog anybody here, but shouldn't the best player be based on number of games won, kills, and hangers bombed. I don't know, it's just my opinion, but I always thought it was funny when I would get points for being shot down. I guess I would just expect the top players to be based on the good skills, like I said B Strachan, you have mad skill. But to Zuper.... mbizzi and watup have nearly 10,000 more kills. While B beat them in the other categories, 10,000 is a lot of kills, the total points has got to be close, how can we tell how many points a player has? Also, it seems like the number of points one gets for shooting someone down varies. Is there a set system for the number of points one receives per action (just curious)?

Maybe there is already a thread for this?

The reason I have les kills is because people don't always jump from the plain. Do I have to tell us how to play. U jump never mind I don't even want to tell U thanks alot for ur support and U are? Again U suck :evil:

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11140

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B Strachan wrote: The reason I have les kills is because people don't always jump from the plain. Do I have to tell us how to play. U jump never mind I don't even want to tell U thanks alot for ur support and U are? Again U suck :evil:


Like I said, you happen to be at the top, regardless of whose name happens to be there, I just wanted to see how the points work. But if you want to be grumpy about it fine...but there is a difference between good players who are fun to be around, and willing to discuss and explain things when others don't see why things are the way they are, and players who just think that because they are so awesome, they don't have time for "little" guys. And apparently telling people they are bad at a game makes you feel good about yourself. I like to goof around, but your reply was less than impressive B.
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11159

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Personally I think there should be multiple scoreboards for different things.

e.g: A scoreboard for how many points a person has, how many kills someone has, how many games someone has one, etc.

Each their own category, respectively.
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11173

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And how many tank kills you have!
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11178

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B Strachan wrote: The reason I have les kills is because people don't always jump from the plain. Do I have to tell us how to play. U jump never mind I don't even want to tell U thanks alot for ur support and U are? Again U suck :evil:


Like I said, you happen to be at the top, regardless of whose name happens to be there, I just wanted to see how the points work. But if you want to be grumpy about it fine...but there is a difference between good players who are fun to be around, and willing to discuss and explain things when others don't see why things are the way they are, and players who just think that because they are so awesome, they don't have time for "little" guys. And apparently telling people they are bad at a game makes you feel good about yourself. I like to goof around, but your reply was less than impressive B.

First of all I help anyone that asks me I don't even know U or care to if u can't figure out the point system by now. Myde U should try a simpler game my man :woohoo:

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11179

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Player BP makes a valid point.

Zuperman, can you add a field that shows a pilot's total score? It would also be enlightening to publish the formula.
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11182

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Captain Jackson wrote: Player BP makes a valid point.

Zuperman, can you add a field that shows a pilot's total score? It would also be enlightening to publish the formula.

B) since your so into points ill tell U. 97,982/1, 000,000 with a total of 1,797, 982 I hope it helps :evil:
Iam over 103,000 now U can figure some kind of math formula than Brian

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11184

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Zuperman - I think it would be good for everyone if you posted the formula for points so pilots could decide if they want to pursue point strategies.

BP, I totally agree that there are other measures of skills than points and ranks by totals and not percentages reward the people who have played the game alot.

You might want to see my posts on other statistics in the Forum Thread "TOPIC: Who do you think the best players are skill wise" I think the best skill measure is Kill:Death ratio but even that can be gamed by those who go after the rookies, endlessly spawn kill, or sit in tanks by the runway. The won:loss game percentage also shows who flies to the mission and is good enough to influence the whole mission - though that is also skewed by people who quit games and change sides. Hangers bombed shows a preference for bombing (not escorting) but also timing, strategy and a sense of the game.

If it is any consolation, after being a certain rank you are all in the same planes and you can watch your own stats to compare to the top 100 in points. I'm ranked #230 and what I see in my stat ratios is I'm continually getting better and the stats in my last 50 games show I can fly with anybody...

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11188

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My long posts can usually kill any forum topic...

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11191

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Seattle, I agree with your long post and BP. It shouldn't surprise anyone that there are pilots who are interested in the raw data that contribute to the overall scores. If you just look at the stats there are inconsistencies that can only be explained by scoring criteria that are not published. Cpt J
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11193

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Must have been difficult for Bstrachan to be #1
If you lose in the OUTSIDE, you will also lose in the INSIDE...I think

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11194

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Bstrachan is a great player :) no matter how many kils, deaths, hangars bombed, wins/losses he has
If you lose in the OUTSIDE, you will also lose in the INSIDE...I think
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11202

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Chan the master wrote: Bstrachan is a great player :) no matter how many kils, deaths, hangars bombed, wins/losses he has

Thank you Chan ur not to bad ur self :woohoo:

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11203

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i dont think that stuff should be shared, just because it would make players too conservative. if you really want to know, its been posted before. if players knew that stuff, their stratagies would change just for points. I dont pay any attention to points, honestly. i see rank as an indication of how much you've played, not skill. skill comes from practice, of course, but some players take longer than others. ive seen III Group Captains that still cant shoot straight.
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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11228

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This is a great game but it is one of the few games I have ever played that has no explanation of the rules of gameplay or the points system. In my opinion it needs both. I get tired of aspirants on my own team shooting at me but I can't blame them since there are no instructions posted anywhere. Practice is helpful, but it still won't teach you not to shoot blue or bomb your own base etc. For a game based on statistics and points it seems to reasonable to have this basic information posted somewhere. Shooting down 20 airplanes and then losing all of those points if you crash before landing seems like an overly harsh penalty to me if its true.

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11239

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Lol I over exaggerated on 20 kills crash lose all points. You realy just lose 100 to 200 at the most so really you just lose the points for 2 to 4 kills.

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Re: Points system...no disrespect B Stachan... 12 years 1 month ago #11279

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Chan the master wrote: Bstrachan is a great player :) no matter how many kils, deaths, hangars bombed, wins/losses he has


I agree, he is a good player, I never said he wasn't.

Zuperman....obviously its your game, so maybe the points system is not posted for a reason, but it would be nice so I know what not to do to lose points.

Thanks for the agreement from those who did, and Calvin, your point is valid, but I just wanted to make sure I am not losing points needlessly. Its like telling someone to play football and not telling them how the points system works. While its a lot of fun to play, its even more fun to win...just ask B Stachan. And if they are posted somewhere, where?
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Thanks for the info. and clarification. I'll admit to being lazy and I crash on purpose at times as I don't feel like flying all the way back to base or carrier to reload. I guess this will encourage me to stay in the air and not to take short cuts.

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Everyone in the stop 100 has killed me at least once
If you lose in the OUTSIDE, you will also lose in the INSIDE...I think

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Yeah, some basic formulas would be nice, but not everything. Mosdt players dont care, but newer players might see the formulas and formulate stratagies around points, not effectiveness.
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Chan the master wrote: Everyone in the stop 100 has killed me at least once


I am number 371, probably lower now because I haven't played in a few, and I have take you out at least once...but the number of times you have shot me down...well I don't want to figure that one out...lol.
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