JUST CAME HERE TO SHOW OFF MY NEW BANNERS ....
Credit goes to myrlin .....

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Lots of visitors to our WP squad page..like it!

Raunak, nice banner.

Just played with BLK Wolfe, Jonace and then Dire came in near the end. Capture the flag, BLK got theirs. Then my least favorite player aka trolling donkey now calls himself Bennett shooter, picked of ours. Then we got it back,I think I did. Then he got it again. What followed was ten minutes of Horace and I twisting and turning taking out reds left n right.

We almost hit each other, he shot me three times but nicked the wings, no real damage. Dire came in and shot Bennett down close to our base, scooped up the red flag, and dire and BLK planted them on our base. Bennett left the game just before the game was ended. We used team chat to coordinate the three wolves, and dire evaluated the situation quickly and saw that red flag ready for pick up. It was beyond awesome and was what this game should be. Grinding out down the middle is ok, but my new plane really loved the twists and dips. I want more!!!!!! Doc Lee (navmed) out.

Navmed aka Doc Lee,

That was a great game! I saw my brothers flying and swooped in for the kill. lol

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Havent seen the purebreds in a while, is my wierd,appearence scaring yall?

Sorry to say don't. Know how to screenshot yet but was just in a game with husky and 007 and watched 007 camp the heck out of husky told him i was gonna post it and still continued to do it!!!!!

Yeah Gunnerz. 007 is an asshole . I brought him down when he was coming at my base. He made some remark about payback. Sat on me with no bombers coming in. Had my brake on, so he was wasting his ammo, but that didn't stop him from trying. On a pack member, no less. This guy is on my list. I don't care if he's in the pack or not.

Gunnerz and Husky,

Thank you information. He is in HGA and has been spoken to previously about this behavior. Zero tolerance against camping on anyone and certainly NOT a Pack Member.

Dire

DireWolf {WP} wrote: Gunnerz and Husky,

Thank you information. He is in HGA and has been spoken to previously about this behavior. Zero tolerance against camping on anyone and certainly NOT a Pack Member.

Dire

With the information at hand I have no choice but to demote 007 from Air Marshal to Wing Commander. Refer to page 1 and note item # 8 under Code of Conduct. Following the guidelines set forth in the discipline section 007 should be demoted within the squad.

The rules are in place for a reason. Wolf Pack has no problem with folks playing different styles and how they see fit, so long as they are having fun. However if a player cannot follow a few simple rules grounded in sportsmanship and respect for all then they don't really belong with the Pack.

Dire, Werewolf, Myrlin, please make the aforementioned change in rank for 007. If you cannot make it happen I will pass the word to Digger and he can make the change.

Viper10

Rank change has been expedited.

A pack member camping ? A pack member camping on another wolf? The laws of the pack will show him the door eventually. I find only friends here and will kill you if you are reds, but never by camping or spawn kill. I have too much self respect for that. Apparently, 007 needs to follow the examples set by those of us with integrity in our lives.

I once talked to a group of high schools kids. I asked them what their number one fear was,failure , parents dying, dying themselves,and being alone were some of the answers. All good stuff but when I revealed my biggest fear, they looked at me funny. My biggest fear is losing my integrity. I told them losing that, creates with in me a loss of self respect which leads to bad choices. Prisons are full of kids not much older than them due to having no integrity. Even having made bad choices in the past, one can begin right now to have integrity. It's all about forgiving yourself and striving to be a better productive person. Maybe 007 will decide the right path.

Meanwhile have him report to my office for psychological evaluation and risk assessment.

007 is no longer a pack member. In a separate incident he was reported for tank spawn killing in a dog fight mission. I have asked Dire to remove him from our roster.

When folks fly with WOLF PACK above their names there are certain expectations placed upon them. Those folks represent each and every one of us in the game, the forum, and in world chat. Hopefully kicking 007 will send a clear message to both him and the DF community of the kind of standards we hold ourselves to.

It is understandable that not all the squadrons and individual pilots have the same code of conduct as we do. That doesn't make them better or worse, just different. While some of our code may seem excessive, it is ultimately one we all accepted when we joined Wolf Pack.

I am confident there is a squad out there that will accept 007 as one of their own. He is a talented pilot and boasts really good numbers. Please wish him well if you see him out and about.

Viper10

I think I was in that tank spawn killing game w/007, wasn't W.P yet but it was in the works. I came in right after it happened and he was airborne but the chat was blowing up. I had almost forgotten that game. Which brings up a question, unrelated to this but before I just let it pass. Last night while playing a 2 on 1 (I was the 1) after dropping my payload on the red base as I looped back around I saw a red on the runway so & I knew he saw me, so I flew low over the base (no shots fired) and as I climbed I simply told him "Get airborne, I'll be waiting" & headed for home, Took a minute before he did, probably thought I was not being honest but he finally did then I get accused of camping by the second red, I did turn around but not until I was fired upon first. But my question is this....What is the difference between camping and spawn killing? All spawn killers are campers, but not all campers are spawn killers. Right? And does anyone object to my starting another thread here devoted to a question of the week which I post and anyone can reply to? All ? will be DF related and I would be open to suggestions, some might not even be answerable but put out there to make you stop and think. What say you my brothers (and sisters) wolves.Aououoooowwww

My personal code is that loitering to distract and letting them off the ground is kosher. Making way for very close blue bombers is okay. Else is douchey. I think that's pretty standard etiquette, but let me know if I'm wrong... I get to the red base so rarely, this is mostly hypothetical anyway lol...

Nah, Larry. That was a good show the other red just didn't know what you were doing.

thanks, yes it was hypothetical. Before I could say anything red 1 explained to red 2. oh and the victory (in dogfight & game) was all blue.

Now would someone please help me? How do I get my new banner to show below my official one?

Larry G. wrote: thanks, yes it was hypothetical. Before I could say anything red 1 explained to red 2. oh and the victory (in dogfight & game) was all blue.

Now would someone please help me? How do I get my new banner to show below my official one?

Larry,

Copy code Mrylin provided [...IMG]i58.tinypic.com/2e2p3sp.jpg[/IMG...]

Go to: Profile, edit, profile information. Then copy code link remove the "..." before and after the IMG and you're done.

Thanks Dire. Tried that and all I get is the little box with an x as you can see.

Got it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Myrlin your magic truly is powerful.

Larry G. wrote: I think I was in that tank spawn killing game w/007, wasn't W.P yet but it was in the works. I came in right after it happened and he was airborne but the chat was blowing up. I had almost forgotten that game. Which brings up a question, unrelated to this but before I just let it pass. Last night while playing a 2 on 1 (I was the 1) after dropping my payload on the red base as I looped back around I saw a red on the runway so & I knew he saw me, so I flew low over the base (no shots fired) and as I climbed I simply told him "Get airborne, I'll be waiting" & headed for home, Took a minute before he did, probably thought I was not being honest but he finally did then I get accused of camping by the second red, I did turn around but not until I was fired upon first. But my question is this....What is the difference between camping and spawn killing? All spawn killers are campers, but not all campers are spawn killers. Right? And does anyone object to my starting another thread here devoted to a question of the week which I post and anyone can reply to? All ? will be DF related and I would be open to suggestions, some might not even be answerable but put out there to make you stop and think. What say you my brothers (and sisters) wolves.Aououoooowwww

Let me see if I can help you out here Larry.

Spawnkilling is when you shoot the reds on the runway prior to any chance of them getting airborne. It is a huge no-no while posted up in a tank, shelling reds as they spawn into the game. In an aircraft spawnkilling is accomplished by camping around the enemy base and as soon as the reds begin to taxi, blasting them with no chance of defending themselves... then sticking around to do it again. Camping then is the act of hanging around the red base, waiting for a chance to shoot reds when they are at their most vulnerable. Camping is generally frowned upon when there are no incoming blue bombers which need cover, the camper has traveled without a bomb to the enemy base for the sole purpose of killing reds when they are at their most vulnerable, and the camping does not serve to end the game or accomplish the objective, only to record kills for the camper.

Having said all that I would argue that camping can serve a tactical purpose. If you have delivered your bombs and other blues are inbound they may require cover to be successful. Cover can be in the form of suppressing fire (Gonna look just like spawnkilling if done while the reds are spawning in) or cover can be in the form of putting on an air show for the red maintenance personnel on the ground as you twist and turn over the red base, adding a pipper to the red guys screen for confusion.

Based on your account what you did was fine. You turned for home, and the red became airborne and engaged you. Nothing wrong with turning around and giving him some wolf love! From a tactical standpoint what I like to do is make the red chase me some, dodging his bullets. That gives me time to see if he has dropped his bombs to chase me or not, plus if I get him far enough away from his base by the time I turn and engage, he may decide to tank up. Tanks mid field are not a target so what you have done is effectively eliminate one opponent, at least temporarily.

That is how I see the terms camping and spawnkilling. Others may have different opinions, which I would like to hear.

I think a question of the week type thread will be good. It can be open to any question and you will get answers from all our senior officers and brand new guys. Like an open forum type thing. Sounds like a plan, Larry.

Y r u kick mi on sq ?????????

Larry, don't sweat it if someone other then a Pack member calls you a camper. Many may have noticed I get called a camper all the time because the screen will light up with my name on it for kills. Some will assume that im camping. (then follows the name calling, which I ignore)
Then when I drop my bombs, they are dumbfounded. The problem is, when you get good, you begin knocking everyone outta the sky. Which is fine, until it begins to form waves of enemies, because the formerly dead pilots respawn all together. Then you have to learn how to kill 4ish pilots all together. Once you do that, they are all again respawning at the same time again on the tar mat just as you're getting there! What do you do??

I lay them down.( if I still have bullets). So I can get to bomb. Is that camping? I don't think so. It's the problem with the game in only having one spawn.

Then, when you're leaving without bombs, I can't tell you how many times I try to leave and get shot in the back. Sometimes its irritating, so I've learned to: drop, the fly straight up, then when anyone wants some more, ill know which one they are, and I drill them, then turn to run again; repeat for the stubborn ones. If they repeat, and attempt to shot me while I'm clearly attempting to leave, THEN their claim that I'm camping is BS, and they get a chance to die again. Which is fine, because I'm going for a 4-1 over all kdr.

I've been "reported" for camping a lot. Zup ignores the obvious bs ones. As for the slander of camping, only the opinions of your Pack members counts. Everyone else is red meat imo.

-ole Red

PS:

I don't think the culture of dignity applies to the two games; "hit the zeppelin", and "dogfight". Only anarchy reigns. If someone doesn't camp the enemy while they're **protecting** the zep, which rarely anyone stays for, then that person is a fool.

(I note *protecting* because if someone from the team that's attempting to shoot the zip, doesn't let the enemy up to defend the zep, then that is just camping. But I might be convinced otherwise, albeit unlikely.)

Imo, keeping the enemy down to protect the zep is the incentive you get for sticking around to defend the zep and not leaving just because you don't get easy zep points like the Germans. If they call you a camper, what really mean is: " come on! Let me get free easy points to level up without working for them.". In other words, they sound like little spoiled brats who's daddy is a rich boy and gave them free things, thinking they have the right to an easy life.

Imho, screw the 1% and screw what I call, the "free pointers"

@007,

I'm sure we're all sorry to resort to draconian actions; although, the reputation of the Pack is more important then the individual, without exception to any one person.

If you think you're wrongly accused, then by all means present your rebuttal. The Pack leadership is quite reasonable.

Comradely,
Ole' Red

I got called a camper in a game. So as he respawned, I gave him room. As he took off, literally as his nose came off terra firma, I dropped my bomb on him and typed "oops missed the hanger". That shut him up quick. Then I took out one tank and a guy lining up on final to bomb us. On a side note, I find myself l f very much more accurate when the reds are inbound and I am alone between them. I am a defender, but I refuse to stay on the blue line (hockey term). I am saving to buy speed and agility. My best bet is to be quicker and agile. I'm loving the new German plane and soon my british one will be on par with it.

Oh I agree. Get in, drop off, get out...UNLESS there are blues behind you with the same intent. In that case, I hit the auto-acrobatics button to razzle dazzle the reds. I do similar, Red...I go straight up after I drop. If someone gives chase and fires on me, it's fair game. By firing on me in retreat, it's ON like Donkey Kong!I'm ok with that anyway. That keeps them off the incoming blues. Mission accomplished. My feeling is that if my maneuvers get another teammate to the Red Base to drop, I've done my job.
On my way in to the Red Base, I will shoot anything and everything to get there...including spawners. If I'm spawning and Reds are close enough to where I don't have time to get up to defend, I lock my brakes. But, as soon as they drop, I'm Up! Up! and Away! If it's just one or two incoming reds, I usually just go. If it's Red Riding Hood and the whole Team, I'll wait.
On the subject of dropping...It's a no-no for me. My numbers are actually better when I have bombs on board. It steadies my flight to where I don't even throttle back on attacks. The only reason I will drop is to engage a hostile that is a known dropper. And there are several. If the blues only have one hangar or carrier hit to accomplish, I will also drop one(but only if I have 2 on board to start with). I also drop on CTC and DF missions. It's all about speed and maneuverability there.
Anyway, those are my own personal rules.I too like my German planes best. I'm still upgrading the Shukert, and I have not gotten all of the Allied planes yet.
Discontent is the first Necessity of Progress...Thomas Edison
Necessity is the Mother of invention...Plato

Autoacrobatics?@

Lol , Yes, Navmed. It's the imaginary Auto_Acrobatic button next to the Altimeter. Don't you have it? lol

hey guys, great game with Sojan. he got promoted but perhaps didn't realise it until I told him!

Wow u actually screened that! Lol i knew i had been promoted: i just thought it wasn't really incredible (especially that u have 26!!) Also i am having a hard time keeping my kills from going under my deaths so i don't really feel proud with my flying. But the main point is to have fun right! Thanks for the nice game armament!