Hoagie. you subscribe and have to wait for 6 minutes. im a devoted subscriber for 4 years, paid for the lags, glitches and invisible. just recently, ive subscribe for $4.80 for 125,000 points but no points received. Ive received my previous payment to echoboom from Apple and got my points but now i dont received any points at all. Ive even forward the receipt to zup for verification. Very disappointing. Ive email to zup to both accounts and until to date, ive still not received my points but the money already paid for. quite frustating isnt it.