Dear zup could you would you please bring back the 10% bomb in btc games
It is nice to destroy half the ship with 2 bombs.but it kinda takes the fun out of the game.

You give us lots of time to get the ship most games are over in 5 maybe 10 minutes.

It would be better if the noobs actually had a chance to fly and learn

3 bombs is great but belongs in ww2 .rember its tons of noobs in ww1 .

Most of us rember agonizing long games as noobs .but at the same time those games gave us time to learn

The flying skill of some of the noobs is horrible.its not for trying but the games just dont last long enough for them to learn anything.

Just a thought zup.please dont make me fly backwards again lol.

Basically we just need a better class of noobs.and who wants to pay for a game that only lasts minuets.

And maybe you could up their lower tier planes a bit.

I'm with it

I can dig this.

even in ww2 games end too quickly someone carrying 4 bombs now can end a game in a few minutes

darraxx wrote: Dear zup could you would you please bring back the 10% bomb in btc games
It is nice to destroy half the ship with 2 bombs.but it kinda takes the fun out of the game.

You give us lots of time to get the ship most games are over in 5 maybe 10 minutes.

It would be better if the noobs actually had a chance to fly and learn

3 bombs is great but belongs in ww2 .rember its tons of noobs in ww1 .

Most of us rember agonizing long games as noobs .but at the same time those games gave us time to learn

The flying skill of some of the noobs is horrible.its not for trying but the games just dont last long enough for them to learn anything.

Just a thought zup.please dont make me fly backwards again lol.

Basically we just need a better class of noobs.and who wants to pay for a game that only lasts minuets.

And maybe you could up their lower tier planes a bit.

Until i get a ww2 plane going im in ww1 .all i can say is that ww1 is a slaughter house.lower tier planes just dont cut it compared to top tier planes.

And most of the noobs just jump out of their planes dance around the runway shoot at thier own team or tank thier own hangers.they cant learn or dont need to learn anything
Why try wh3n you can run around and let others get you points.(i.e. parked guys)

Make them fly make them learn.

The problem isn’t the planes; there was no problem with them before. The problem isn’t really the noobs; if the noobs of today are different than we we’re as noobs, it’s because we have allowed them to be raised differently.

The problem is that experienced pilots are mercilessly, unashamedly farming the noobs. There’s always been a certain segment that favored that play style whenever they could get away with it, but the community at large policed ourselves well enough that Zup could handle the few standout bad apples that we offered up as irredeemable.

It was also the community that educated the noobs, not Zup, but apparently not many of us have time for that anymore. I can understand how that can be a problem now; first you need to make sure you don’t get farmed yourself. Then, you may be the only experienced pilot on your team; everyone else is loaded up on the other side either farming or benefitting from their teammate’s farming without complaint . . . how often do you see someone change sides to balance out an outnumbered team anymore, let alone swap sides to help out a noob heavy team? It used to just be the KDR fanatics we had to deal with, now it’s the quest for the all might squad war point . . . but the true problem is all most no one does anything about it other than complain on the forums.

IF we actually started trying to police ourselves the way we use to, if we started taking it on ourselves to train the noobs, if we started balancing out teams ourselves (instead of waiting for some wonder patch from Zup), it might not be too late to turn this mess around.

yes Steve But i see some good seasoned players switching to help a lone player GAW/RT/FRITS to name a few recently these guys switch no matter what tag you wear just to balance sides.this is good gamesmanship and very sporting. i do try to do this too after all its just a game and the more the challenge the better i like it.

S. E. Dailey wrote: The problem isn’t the planes; there was no problem with them before. The problem isn’t really the noobs; if the noobs of today are different than we we’re as noobs, it’s because we have allowed them to be raised differently.

The problem is that experienced pilots are mercilessly, unashamedly farming the noobs. There’s always been a certain segment that favored that play style whenever they could get away with it, but the community at large policed ourselves well enough that Zup could handle the few standout bad apples that we offered up as irredeemable.

It was also the community that educated the noobs, not Zup, but apparently not many of us have time for that anymore. I can understand how that can be a problem now; first you need to make sure you don’t get farmed yourself. Then, you may be the only experienced pilot on your team; everyone else is loaded up on the other side either farming or benefitting from their teammate’s farming without complaint . . . how often do you see someone change sides to balance out an outnumbered team anymore, let alone swap sides to help out a noob heavy team? It used to just be the KDR fanatics we had to deal with, now it’s the quest for the all might squad war point . . . but the true problem is all most no one does anything about it other than complain on the forums.

IF we actually started trying to police ourselves the way we use to, if we started taking it on ourselves to train the noobs, if we started balancing out teams ourselves (instead of waiting for some wonder patch from Zup), it might not be too late to turn this mess around.

Yes, Roy, but 4 or 5 players doing it is nothing like it used to be. Then again, I guess we use to have some game-imposed chivalry we don’t have now . . . we were given the freedom to choose factions, and we rushed to abuse it.

Dognamitt wrote: yes Steve But i see some good seasoned players switching to help a lone player GAW/RT/FRITS to name a few recently these guys switch no matter what tag you wear just to balance sides.this is good gamesmanship and very sporting. i do try to do this too after all its just a game and the more the challenge the better i like it.

S. E. Dailey wrote: The problem isn’t the planes; there was no problem with them before. The problem isn’t really the noobs; if the noobs of today are different than we we’re as noobs, it’s because we have allowed them to be raised differently.

The problem is that experienced pilots are mercilessly, unashamedly farming the noobs. There’s always been a certain segment that favored that play style whenever they could get away with it, but the community at large policed ourselves well enough that Zup could handle the few standout bad apples that we offered up as irredeemable.

It was also the community that educated the noobs, not Zup, but apparently not many of us have time for that anymore. I can understand how that can be a problem now; first you need to make sure you don’t get farmed yourself. Then, you may be the only experienced pilot on your team; everyone else is loaded up on the other side either farming or benefitting from their teammate’s farming without complaint . . . how often do you see someone change sides to balance out an outnumbered team anymore, let alone swap sides to help out a noob heavy team? It used to just be the KDR fanatics we had to deal with, now it’s the quest for the all might squad war point . . . but the true problem is all most no one does anything about it other than complain on the forums.

IF we actually started trying to police ourselves the way we use to, if we started taking it on ourselves to train the noobs, if we started balancing out teams ourselves (instead of waiting for some wonder patch from Zup), it might not be too late to turn this mess around.

Unfortunately 80% of the time i switch i find a noob just gets on foot.or if i offer advice im told to go f myself..
What im getting from it are the noobs are just inexperienced due to lack of good game time.it has to suck being in a lowwr tier plane to see a top tier plane take off fly past you take out half the ship get killed take off and fly past you again and finish the ship...

darraxx wrote: Unfortunately 80% of the time i switch i find a noob just gets on foot.or if i offer advice im told to go f myself..
What im getting from it are the noobs are just inexperienced due to lack of good game time.it has to suck being in a lowwr tier plane to see a top tier plane take off fly past you take out half the ship get killed take off and fly past you again and finish the ship...

I agree, the games are too easily won by two planes carrying 3 bombs (4 in the WWII game), but I don't think the solution is as easy as scaling back bomb damage or tweaking tier 1 plane stats; a longer game just gives noobs longer to be abused and/or ignored by the experienced pilots.

Seasoned pilots need to stick to WW2 and let the noobs graduate , but that is just my opinion and I guess some feel obliged to try help them out in some way or another . What disappoints me is when I hear noobs tell me of pilots who are well advanced in DF and they prey on easy points by spawn killing and camping on them because they can't compete in WW 2 against pilots of their own calibre . These same pilots accuse others in ww2 of harvesting points but they feel free like SE said to harvest noobs .

D- CC RIDER wrote: Seasoned pilots need to stick to WW2 and let the noobs graduate , but that is just my opinion and I guess some feel obliged to try help them out in some way or another . What disappoints me is when I hear noobs tell me of pilots who are well advanced in DF and they prey on easy points by spawn killing and camping on them because they can't compete in WW 2 against pilots of their own calibre . These same pilots accuse others in ww2 of harvesting points but they feel free like SE said to harvest noobs .

Well everyone knows me here i wont camp noobs.and limited camping on someone that was camping me to start with.
But i see the jerks camping time and time again.guess what its the same jerks that have always camped and claimed good tactic.
As far as ww2 im not going to fly my low tier pos against a maxed out p51 or 190.wise man once said only fly your best plane.
And without someone trying to be the voice of reason in ww1 the noobs wouldbecome totaly jaded and show up in ww2 with an attitude. And have their world ripped away like the noobs did when zup had noob server.rember just how many people made second accounts to go beat noobs.

Hey Rabbit good to see you back . I know you don't camp or spawn kill , been around you long enough by now . Just saying those with up to date WW2 planes should know better , but hard to hit a nail into a concrete skull .

Ok spent some time thinking (yes it hurt)

Mods in ww1 only.why let the noobs be camped farmed.
4 or 5 mods only for ww1 .
Yes its a great pain for zup yes its a great pain for the mods.
But if anyone can come up with better suggestions post up.