So after playing six games in a row, with stutter, lag, excuses and after spending over $99 on this game, I am left with the question, "why is the lag/stutter/crap so bad in this game? I have given every chance for the developer to fix these problems. I, as a rational person expect to at least finsih a game. I am playing on a secure, extremely fast connection and there is no joy... Don't get me wrong, I sooo much want this to work. But at some point I must ask myself, "are we being duped", is this a scam", or maybe I just need to buck it up and buy and play the mainstream games and dump my girlfriend(Zup)

I think what the cc posted is tow the company line there is no freeze frame its your internet not bad servers fault so dont post problems only tell good things

I rarely have problems.

I notice sometimes when a game gets full that the lag starts to happen, but it could be because of someone that has a bad internet connection, etc.

Sometimes I will get kicked, but usually if that happens the app just crashes.

But for the most part, I get games that never have any problems, so I can't really say it's the servers, or my connection. Most likely it's my iPad 3's processor that is slow anyway and can't handle everything, thus why the trees will sometimes disappear as well.

Just entered a game as 6th or 7th player, started to freeze. I was told i lag. Then a player left, and IT was ok. If there more Then 6 players game seems to be laggy..

Jasta1 wrote: Just entered a game as 6th or 7th player, started to freeze. I was told i lag. Then a player left, and IT was ok. If there more Then 6 players game seems to be laggy..[/qit happens every game im in with more the 5 players freeze frame everyone not like the individual lag you will seeuote]

6gun wrote: I think what the cc posted is tow the company line there is no freeze frame its your internet not bad servers fault so dont post problems only tell good things

What I am trying to say 3 gun is that why go out and keep paying for something your not happy with . Ok so there are problems with the game , there have been since we moved from the Microsoft servers . It's like if you bought a particular brand of house hold item and had no end of problems with it and you went out and bought the same item again . Simple answer is buy something else that works . There are other games out there DOH .

So cc you all knowing an wise individual so no saying what is wrong with game.go play another game well if you look game cant afford to lose any player there arent that many.so I will keep saying what is wrong with game an still play but if you dont like my remarks go play another game

6gun wrote: So cc you all knowing an wise individual so no saying what is wrong with game.go play another game well if you look game cant afford to lose any player there arent that many.so I will keep saying what is wrong with game an still play but if you dont like my remarks go play another game

Firstly I suggest you go back through Zups posts and check his quoted numbers on users of this game , it just may surprise you . Secondly I like the game . I don't whine , bitch and moan about it every chance I get . Last but not least 1 gun I love your quotes , gives me a chance to shake my head and wonder how the world still turns . Keep them coming bud .

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I dont bitch or whine I stated that if more the 5 players in game good chance you will have bad freeze frame thats everyone in game so I would think it wouldnt be individual lag more like problem on game side.an I play df1 an elite an there are still usually more players there then elite an elite is two games so yes elite needs every player it can get

I've been in many games with more than five players and no lag, but then some games with less and there is lag.

So is it the servers, or it comes from an individual? I really don't know, but seems like it could be an individual.

well, the issue is that those freeze frames and stuff does not happen to everybody, just on certain devices, that's why it's not an easy fix. Also, because that means it's not on my power, it is most likely a driver related issue or a specific device issue (several threads already posted about it, related to AMD chips).

Now, the only way for me to help out and try to figure it out (so I can contact manufacturers of the device or check for updated drivers or whatever) is to send me an email to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and tell me as much about your device as possible so I can investigate (I also try many times to look for one exact copy of your device so I can run the game and see whether it happens).

What you should not do is to begin saying this is a scam, you are been duped and in short lose all manners... I'll just put the issue on the backburner and help someone who is simply more polite instead of spending hours trying to pinpoint your particular one device problem. I have it as personal policy for long already, to give priority to kind people simply because I was raised that way. And it also feels so much better on a personal level. Be polite and I'll spend days or weeks trying to solve whatever and contacting all necessary support channels in every company. Don't... and I just won't.

"Actually there is no such thing as Dogfight lag.
What actually happens is that certain people have genetic cerebral disorder that causes them to skip forward in the spacetime continuum when their excitement level exceeds their Duckwing Limit.
Thus they miss multiple frames of reality that the normal player experiences"

"Actually there is no such thing as Dogfight lag.
What actually happens is that certain people have genetic cerebral disorder that causes them to skip forward in the spacetime continuum when their excitement level exceeds their Duckwing Limit.
Thus they miss multiple frames of reality that the normal player experiences"

There, it just happened to me then.

i get it on both my devices zup samsung galaxy tab A 8 inch model SM-t350 and sony xperia Z model SGP312U1B

zuperman wrote: well, the issue is that those freeze frames and stuff does not happen to everybody, just on certain devices, that's why it's not an easy fix. Also, because that means it's not on my power, it is most likely a driver related issue or a specific device issue (several threads already posted about it, related to AMD chips).

Now, the only way for me to help out and try to figure it out (so I can contact manufacturers of the device or check for updated drivers or whatever) is to send me an email to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and tell me as much about your device as possible so I can investigate (I also try many times to look for one exact copy of your device so I can run the game and see whether it happens).

What you should not do is to begin saying this is a scam, you are been duped and in short lose all manners... I'll just put the issue on the backburner and help someone who is simply more polite instead of spending hours trying to pinpoint your particular one device problem. I have it as personal policy for long already, to give priority to kind people simply because I was raised that way. And it also feels so much better on a personal level. Be polite and I'll spend days or weeks trying to solve whatever and contacting all necessary support channels in every company. Don't... and I just won't.

I am pretty sure I just got a spanking from Zup