Every game ends in a tie. A tie is like kissing your sister.just not rite.if enough complain zup may hear.

must agree, at least increase the timer to a value in which a game could be won, 45 mins, or 1 hour

i hate it too just starting a game and seeing you have five minutes left made me leave lol not worth the effort to stay ! but timing the games was needed remember the stuck flags in buildings the flag was stuck for days but 20 minutes and increased damage is a joke

get rid of the timer already! The timer along with the increased bomb damage, less kills required in df, and only half the hangars needed for win it would seem short games are advantageous to the developer, not the player

I'm happy with a draw as a result (any lover of test cricket can enjoy a 5 day contest that ends in a draw) but the timer is too short as it stands. It's takes almost 2 minutes to get from one end to the other, so it's hard to bomb a base or boat in that time.

Can the timer stuff the bullet drop .we just want our df back !

Viper10{WP} wrote: get rid of the timer already! The timer along with the increased bomb damage, less kills required in df, and only half the hangars needed for win it would seem short games are advantageous to the developer, not the player

Yes thanks you Viper that's is exactly it. The developers are happy with it because it minimizes the maintenance and lag there is in each of the servers. I'm assuming almost all the players are wanting the timer to go and elite to be more like dogfight but the developers probably won't do it. (I could be wrong though lol)

[e]hammer_tool wrote: I'm happy with a draw as a result (any lover of test cricket can enjoy a 5 day contest that ends in a draw) but the timer is too short as it stands. It's takes almost 2 minutes to get from one end to the other, so it's hard to bomb a base or boat in that time.

i must agree the timer is too short. i was thinking about this just last night. if it takes 10% of the game time just to REACH the objective, let alone bomb it or fight over it, it really should be lenghtened, if it has to be kept at all.

There's more than just the timer that's wrong.


The 2 big things that make me want to not play are:

Bullet drop that (was voted against in a poll) is never the same on any 2 runs. Add a bit of lag and you can't figure it out at all. That needs to go.

Tanks that can't do anything. No clue as to why they needed to be set up so different...the only thing that's the same is when you see your shell hit and an explosion, well that means you missed...good luck getting going again if you ever stop on a hill.

I've tried playing all weekend and I just can't wrap my head around why elite has to be so dissimilar from the original. Why can't I have a game that I'm able to transfer all the skills I learned in the original and just carry on?

This original game was popular because of the simplicity of it. Remember that.

i think the combination of lag and bullet drop make inconsistency remember if a plane is a millisecond in front or behind where it is supposed to be due to lag then your out of luck with the straight on bullets if there is lag it doesn't really matter you still can hit the target.with bullet drop its luck who gets the advantage of the lag

[*M]Comet wrote: There's more than just the timer that's wrong.


The 2 big things that make me want to not play are:

Bullet drop that (was voted against in a poll) is never the same on any 2 runs. Add a bit of lag and you can't figure it out at all. That needs to go.

Tanks that can't do anything. No clue as to why they needed to be set up so different...the only thing that's the same is when you see your shell hit and an explosion, well that means you missed...good luck getting going again if you ever stop on a hill.

I've tried playing all weekend and I just can't wrap my head around why elite has to be so dissimilar from the original. Why can't I have a game that I'm able to transfer all the skills I learned in the original and just carry on?

This original game was popular because of the simplicity of it. Remember that.

I keep thinking this how many people would come here and pay to play .dare I say this just lose the bullet drop.I've been flying dfe for a bit now .not only is the time limit not working .but what I'm seeing .please correct me if I'm.wrong .but dfe is a game where no one pilot stands out .with bullet drop it's such an even playing field it almost feels.like a kids game .and it's due to the bullet drop .yes I can shoot good enough to be decent but so does everyone else .and one thing that no one can deny is drop causes crashing.a lot of times people are so close now when shooting you can't help but crash 70% of the time .was a great idea but not really working.I see just about everyone wanting the df style back .
What df was about was that anyone had a chance to stand out .you had to try to become good .rank meant you put your time in and took on the big boys and girls.it gave us .and again correct me if I'm wrong .but it gave us proud moments.that's just my opinion..
Leave the box but lose the drop.