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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330609

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Where is the line and what is tank glitch? Is it a gentleman's rule, coding error or skilled placement?

Post some screenshots of closest base tanking you get and let's see.

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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330646

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Well Cush you've been around enough to know what is a glitch or not.

But since this is your alter-ego I will say. A glitch is not a gentleman's rule, as you can tell when you land in a chute within enemy territory you are immediately sent back to your base. But if the glitch is happening, then you don't get sent back and you're able to get your tank (even if you land right next to a hanger).

It's obvious that being able to take a tank too close to a base is not how Zup designed the game, thus something in the coding, etc. got messed up and allowed it to happen, thus it's a glitch in the system.

From what I've notice, the line is about 1/4 of the way up the hill before the Allied base, and around the base of the second hill going towards the German base. Sorry can't be more accurate as to the line.
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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330649

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i'm curious if the tank glitch has been removed in Elite. i haven't played enough games to judge. has anyone seen the tank glitch used in Elite, or is it banished there?
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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330650

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I haven't noticed it yet.

airwolff wrote: i'm curious if the tank glitch has been removed in Elite. i haven't played enough games to judge. has anyone seen the tank glitch used in Elite, or is it banished there?

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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330652

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In original DF "Enemy territory" begins at (or just before) the distance of a tank shot from the hangars. In Elite it seems to be at the same distance even though tank range is shorter. In Elite (original too?) it seems to be a line all the way across the map fro East to West. If you land past that line you are "off-sides" and you are supposed to respawn.

If you get the "glitch" you don't respawn even if you land off-sides. Since this is not available to everyone it is seen as unfair and cheating. (Same for landing tanks on the ships) Sigh. It's unfortunate. It wouldn't be so bad if everyone had the same effect at any given time. It would change the games, but the way it is unpredictable and is an unsolvable problem.



If the German base is the red dot at F,6 on the map, then the German territory line is approximately 5.3 and goes all the way across. If Allied base is the red dot at C,1.7 then Allied territory is at 2.3ish



It is a problem in Elite with Capture the Flag games because the flag can be dropped in the forest in enemy territory... you may need to drive quite a ways to retrieve it. It can virtually sabotage a game. If you are the only blue it can be impossible for you to retrieve it unless a red shoots you down and allows you to drive in to get it. A lot of people complained about tanks too close to the base in CTF. I wonder if that's why Zup changed it. It really needs to be changed back: no "enemy territory" in CTF please!

If "enemy territory" is really necessary, could it be a circle around the base instead of having "end zones"? It could be the radius of a tank shot. Of course messing with it might make the glitch happen in Elite. (I haven't seen it yet) In original DF the glitch started when Zup removed enemy territory for CTF. It seems like it can sometimes "spill over" between mission types, especially when different device platforms and updates don't coincide... kind of like when we were getting zeppelins in BTB games. Poor Zup. This is some of the stuff that must drive him freaking crazy!
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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330713

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Thank you very much McFate. And this isn't cush it's Huck. It seems more and more this glitch gets a lot of attention and wanted to know more about it.

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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330743

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tWINs wrote: Thank you very much McFate. And this isn't cush it's Huck. It seems more and more this glitch gets a lot of attention and wanted to know more about it.


What about this?

Cush {§P} wrote: No reason to call him a glitcher if he didnt.
Always had respect for p as a pilot. what u see when people dont know u are watching.
I was flying my noob acct as twins.


From the glitcher thread.
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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330817

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tWINs wrote: Where is the line and what is tank glitch? Is it a gentleman's rule, coding error or skilled placement?

Post some screenshots of closest base tanking you get and let's see.


Maybe a line could be added on the map to show when you cross the thresh hold. Ive been thinking that for a while. Or maybe put a border arooind the enemy territory and make it a lighter shade of.green so it stands out on the map. It surely would help to know where it is.

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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330818

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Yeah bullet I thought the same thing, or Zup could post a photo of the map and show exactly where the cut off lines are. I think I will write to him about that.

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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330825

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Build a wall
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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330837

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Zup replied to me, but all he said is:

"It is a circumference around the airport."

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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 5 months ago #330896

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Is this not a dead issue, as DF1 is slated to be put out to pasture. I have yet to see any one tank glitch base in Elite, as well the range on the tank shell is not any where near that of DF1. It is much more difficult to aim and zero in on hangers in Elite compared to Df1. So even when you are in range of hangers with tank you will find it much more challenging to shell a hangar before you are either shot to pieces or bombed from a outgoing aircraft. :whistle: :pinch: :P
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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 4 months ago #333484

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I dunno nothin man, it isn't mine, I don't know where it came from.

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Thou Shalt Not Pass! Enemy Territory Line! 9 years 4 months ago #333503

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One sure way would be to have a tank trap, or a trench surrounding the airfields, just a thought. ???

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