Hi zup,

Could you add the sensitivity calibration screen for DF Elite PC Users.

PC user cant match turns for mobile devices, I know in DF1 is very usual seen PC users dropping and noone can match their turn, but I wish you can do a beter way to match it at diferent devices.
Ill apreciate it sooooooooo much.
thanks

But then the advantage goes the other way!!

Hopefully Zup will find a way of equality the devices out-fingers crossed.

bts wrote: But then the advantage goes the other way!!

Hopefully Zup will find a way of equality the devices out-fingers crossed.

yes it is kind of a thing to think about it!!

there is a big diference, maybe doing the pc with the 80% of the mobile devices

Hope he answer my concern

We also need to do the little adjustemts

Zup,

Don't make the change while Elite is still in beta. Return the sensitivity to normal when the PC/console players are separated from mobile device play.
It is pretty obvious the two platforms do not mix well without putting one platform at a disadvantage. Now the shoe on the other foot so to speak. Mobile vs Mobile and PC vs Console, neither the twain shall meet in the most glorious skies of DogfightElite.

The number of players in elite has picked up with the release of the Apple platform and updates to Android. Returning to a mistake of the past will suck the life out of Elite. Segregation is the solution, look at other games such as World of Tanks. The two are separated.

Press On!

Something needs to be done to balance the different platforms. Don't the tablets have a sensitivity slider in elite?

Viper10{WP} wrote: Something needs to be done to balance the different platforms. Don't the tablets have a sensitivity slider in elite?

yes, the PC tablets have the slider and it does make a difference... it makes me equal to Kindles and Androids where the PC desktop gets way out turned...

Its about time the tablet get an advantage. I just hope I can find some of the PC guys who I cant catch in the original DF.

Oh, YESSS, I'll be cruising the skies of Elite looking for all the guys that told me my turn radius disadvantage as a tablet user in DF1 was no big deal, and not the reason I was getting smoked dogfighting, and how there are so many other tricks out there, and how to do an Immelman, and scissors, and split S's, and how to use gravity in a turn.

All you screw turning approach dogfighters, look out.

I'll bring the cheese to go with the whine.

are pc at a disadvantage now or is it just now equal playing field ?

Dognamitt wrote: are pc at a disadvantage now or is it just now equal playing field ?

The PC are not disadvantaged against other PC players. Remember, Elite is still in beta. Once Zup separates the platforms, all will be well except for those who use DF like a Facebook app.

Keep the apples with the apples and the oranges with the oranges. Just say no to fruit salad!

I played dude in DF 1 who was flying a kindle HD, out turned my poor little tier two plane. It was ok cuz, we were both flying mobile devices. The instant fly past, turn and your dead days are not a reality in Elite. You can actually engage and turn with a hope of making a kill.

Zuperman, please do no succumb to the pressure. Leave the settings as they are.

Believe it or not I agree with y'all about not giving pc players an adjuster.. if zuperman can more even out the differences then well and good.. if not, wait until the devices are segregated.. meanwhile, if you see me.. GO FOR IT!

not giving PC users any sensitivity adjustment is fine if it equals everyone out...

but like I said before...

PC tablet WITH adjuster set to max just keeps up with Kindle and Android devices...

PC DESKTOP is exactly 1/2 the tablets turn rate...

as it is, just the PC desktop is disadvantaged... a little tuning is in order

but if y'all are really happy flying against drones then why not petition Zup to fill the skies with 'em??

just think... no competition at all that way!! Oh what fun!!

Oh how the tide has turned.how quickly the pc guys want an advantage.now maybe they will understand what all us tablet and phone guys had to go through.aww you can.make an instant turn tough cookies.fly like the rest of us .now it comes down to skill and practice.something quite a few pc players never took the real time to learn .but I will say this it was nice to take on a pc guy in a ctc mission and let him find out he wasn't all that .guess it came as a shock to him to find out what a real turn fight was..keep.thing the way they are zup do not give them.back their advantage

ZebraUp wrote: Believe it or not I agree with y'all about not giving pc players an adjuster.. if zuperman can more even out the differences then well and good.. if not, wait until the devices are segregated.. if you see me.. GO FOR IT!

Thank you zebra.all anyone wanted was a equal playing field

darraxx wrote:

ZebraUp wrote: Believe it or not I agree with y'all about not giving pc players an adjuster.. if zuperman can more even out the differences then well and good.. if not, wait until the devices are segregated.. if you see me.. GO FOR IT!

Thank you zebra.all anyone wanted was a equal playing field

I completely agree, if you can even it out more do it, if not, just leave it how it is and segregate the devices.

But, Darraxx, I'm a little confused, are you agreeing that everyone wants and should have an equal playing field, or are you gleefully rubbing the fact that you now have an obvious advantage in all the pc players noses?

What is interesting to me is the guys who were the squeaky wheels so to speak about "ban the pc players" in legacy show absolutely no empathy towards the current plight of the pc guys. Having "been there, done that" you would think they would also be lobbying for equality in the game.

Feel free to call me out on this if I am being hypocritical. I think I stayed out of the past arguments for the most part.

I think the biggest loss when everything comes to fruition is I wont get to see my adroid, apple, and other platform users playing in elite. It kinda makes me a bit disappointed to know that is the eventual future of this game and my df friends (and even some of my enemies)

Oh yeah, and at this particular stage we don't even have the option to go find a different game or server, they are all tied together. I recall lots of folks saying they wouldn't play with pc folks and would leave a game with pc players. Hmmmm.

Just food for thought reference this discussion.

Thank you Viper and Dailey for expressing my same exact thoughts

You are missing the point. I still think they should be seperated, or made equal. We put this to a vote and lost, and all of us tablet guys were told to suck it up and live with it, and Zup refused to believe there was a disadvantage to tilt control (as Zeeb pointed out it's the controlling mechanism, not the device).

There are a few corkscrew approach types who made a living outturning tablets and braying about their mad skilz. I'm not talking about Zeeb or Tx, they're always gentlemen, but there have been some that gleefully took advantage of a tablets inability to put 100% of flaps into a turn and in a turn and a half were on your six, in the same level plane, equally outfitted. Fine, that's life, but then they rubbed salt in the wound and bragged it up. A couple are notorius dropping, corkscrewing, camping spawnkilling noob hunters. Those are the guys I'm happy to see now in elite, but funny, they don't seem to stick anymore after a couple dances.

Longrifle wrote: You are missing the point. I still think they should be seperated, or made equal. We put this to a vote and lost, and all of us tablet guys were told to suck it up and live with it, and Zup refused to believe there was a disadvantage to tilt control (as Zeeb pointed out it's the controlling mechanism, not the device).

There are a few corkscrew approach types who made a living outturning tablets and braying about their mad skilz. I'm not talking about Zeeb or Tx, they're always gentlemen, but there have been some that gleefully took advantage of a tablets inability to put 100% of flaps into a turn and in a turn and a half were on your six, in the same level plane, equally outfitted. Fine, that's life, but then they rubbed salt in the wound and bragged it up. A couple are notorius dropping, corkscrewing, camping spawnkilling noob hunters. Those are the guys I'm happy to see now in elite, but funny, they don't seem to stick anymore after a couple dances.

Ah, well if its any consolation I have always hated those guys as well. I would watch them brag in wc about their mad skills and just shake my head. Corkscrewing is hardly a mad skill. Or a quick look at stats would show 35,000 kills and 6 hangars bagged.... no, you don't drop, do ya?

I think we would all agree that equality in the platforms would be perfect-if this cannot be achieved (and I know Zup is looking at it)then the only answer is to separate the platforms as many games do already.I for one do not play against the of players who are happy to use the advantage in df,and find I don't really have an advantage in elite!What I do find is the of players definitely don't have an advantage.

bts wrote: I think we would all agree that equality in the platforms would be perfect-if this cannot be achieved (and I know Zup is looking at it)then the only answer is to separate the platforms as many games do already.I for one do not play against the of players who are happy to use the advantage in df,and find I don't really have an advantage in elite!What I do find is the of players definitely don't have an advantage.

Sadly I think you are right and our days of all flying together are numbered.

Truthfully I've been in a few turn fights now with the once mighty turn fighting pc guys .they kept up weight h me I kept up with them I saw no real disadvantage between the planes .only thing I saw was they no longer have the pc super powers of 100%turn .and form what I can tell they are not use to it nor do they like being evenly matched to others .all I can say is take it like a men butter cup.

Oh and please don't swear or call me.dirty names.when you get shot .

If you don't like to it wait till the servers are separated to fly .

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I have no sympathy for the noob huntin', cork screwin', KDR worshippin' campers that we've all had to deal with.

They have never been, and will not be representative of the lion's share of us that happen to also play on PCs . . . they are our rotten apples. So let's get past them for the moment if we can.

Darraxx, the point is that it is not an even match at this point. The only thing that has happened is that the potential advantage has changed hands. The only thing that makes the elite tilt player any different than the DF1 PC players (gentlemen or corkscrew campers) is what you choose to do with it, and how you act about it when you do.
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darraxx wrote: all I can say is take it like a men butter cup.

Oh and please don't swear or call me.dirty names.when you get shot .

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don't know who exactly you're referring to but it is all kinda funny and sad at the same time...

I hope we can all find a way to continue to have fun thru all this beta stuff...

You know.what really sucks .is that the corkscrew guys that took so much pleasure in their Kdr and just had to take advantage of a 100% turn .never cared enough for the game or community even when zup threatened to split the servers in df1 just wouldn't quit .so now when zup does split the servers many good friends will be lost .I have known many pc guys that turned down their sensitivity and learned the skills of head on fighting.they believed in a good fight and I will miss seeing them in games.

to the ones that have brought the division of pc and phone /tablet guys all I can say what you will receive in the server you will be in by the guys that took time to.learn skills .good for you for I'm.really sure there will be many looking for each and everyone of you that have brought this upon this community.and as you choose the path of advantage over honor and choose not to actually learn your days in elite are and will be a shock .