0#0#0#LIBIAK ALI

We all know his style of play, dropping to camp and spawn kill. I deal with it in a game and that is that. No big deal, but now it was his teammates that ticked me off, not so much his play. I just had a game where we were outnumbered and LIBIAK was a red doing his thing. All his teammates just kept playing like nothing wrong was happening even after it was stated many times and a free pass comment was blown off. Well it's payback time from me.

Whenever I see a player like LIBIAK on my team I always give the reds a free pass. I did not get that respect. In fact I got the complete opposite. George from WW was even ok with spawn killing and calling it tactical play. Your comment about being ok to screw people over, well screw you now. Let's see how he will like it when I get all tactical on him. Bet you he leaves. !TBH*[CSK] even went as far as using the tank glitch in the btc game to top it all off (see screen shot below).

HERE IS WHAT I AM GOING TO BE DOING AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL DO THE SAME AGAINST PLAYERS LIKE THIS.

Any player that continues to play in a game with LIBIAK ALI as a normal game are going to get a full force, all out, anything goes play from me in the future and forever. I WILL NOT LET IT GO...EVER. I will use every type of play available against any red on his team...

AND YES ON ANYONE WHO HAS EVER GIVEN HIM SUPPORT DURING PLAY. IF ANYONE DOESN'T LIKE THIS OR AGREE WITH ME...TOO BAD!

You should have been cool enough in the first place to give a free pass to let me deal with him and not make it harder.

I MEAN NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE HERE IN DF. I TAKE IT OFFENSIVELY WHEN PLAYERS SUPPORT PLAYERS LIKE LIBIAK ALI. NOW I WILL HANDLE IT MY WAY.

IF ANYONE SEES ME IN A GAME AGAINST LIBIAK ALI OR ANY OF THE NAMES I AM LISTING HERE I SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU LEAVE THE GAME OR GIVE ME SUPPORT IN THE GAME BY NOT ASSISTING THEM IN ANY WAY. IT IS WHAT ANY AND EVERY RESPECTABLE PLAYER AND I DO OFTEN IN A GAME WHEN THE SITUATION ARISES.

Anyone who knows me knows that I play as straight as an arrow and will continue to do so against those who have my respect. It is to these players that I apologize before hand should you see me in a game using all available play. Just know that it is being done as payback and it is not directed at you. I will not have this continue to happen to me over and over again while I turn the other cheek and I get that one slapped too.

- LIBIAK ALI
- George[WW*]
- !TBH*[CSK]
- Dragon 800

- GHOSTRIDER1 (he wasn't it this game, but lately he has been using all available way too often...ei: tank glitch, especially when he complain even if a player sneaks and he does it often...wow some nerve)

The biggest thing that makes me mad is when I ask for a free pass then why won't they give one to you. If anyone asks me for a free pass they get it. Period.

It's simple folks. If a red asks for a free pass to spank some idiot then give it to them.

I was just in a game with him
but i didnt talk to him so next time i see him in red ill shoot all 240 bullets at him lol

Here's another to add to that list .jumping into a game this jerk just stiing behind the ship waiting for someone to spawn in .next game he did the same camp and spawn kill .from now on I'm just reporting them in the game if we all start doing reports maybe zup will step up .

Gunnzzz,

I'm glad you brought this up. I played a lot recently and so many games had campers, droppers or foul mouthed players who insult others or say disgusting things to female pilots.

I tire of the one-trick only players. They can only team kill,drop, spawn kill or camp. To them a game is KDR only and they can't do the hard work of being a team player and work to win the game in a legitimate way. That takes talent and effort and a few bullets as you fly into a storm of reds.

In one game I had a team killer on my team shoot me over and over and say it was 'fun'. I parked my plane and let the reds have him. The fun stopped for him.

The One-Trick Players are out numbered by those of us tired of the foul mouthed poor playing of a few.

I'll grant a free pass and park my plane any day for those hard fighting DF pilots who can take a bullet and keep fighting.

GhostWolf

Dragon800 and Ghostrider have always been fair in any game I've seen them in. As far as Libiak, I've never been in a game with him where he had a positive KDR. HIS "tactics" never get him anywhere. I look forward to seeing him, easy target.

Anyone of us will step aside and let a player deal with a player like LIBIAK ALI. I did not get that from these guys and they thought it was right what they where doing, keep on fighting against me while I am trying to get LIBIAK ALI.

You know what, good. I am cool with it too. I didn't whine about, but simply stated "let's see how you will like it when I dish it out to you in the future".

I just came out of a game against Dragon 800. Let's just say he didn't like it when it happened to him

The best was when he passed the comment "tells what kind of player you are". My response was "yep, one who hates aholes".

Difference was that I only targeted Dragon 800. He deserved it from me. I did not target any other players in the game. I respected my fellow pilots and myself in only targeting the player who had it coming to him.

Ohh actually I did target one other. Pikeza o almirant who used the tank glitch against me four times in one game, but never did get a hanger. I killed him before he could

Let's just say he left this game fairly quickly.

I'll stick up for dragon and ghost. They have always been straight with me red or blue. They are good players that don't deserved to be lumped into a category with the others. You might try pming them versus calling them out like this.

As for Nairobi, he was on my team camping on noobs. I switched sides and he ran off. He used to be a good player. Sad that he is doing that.

[*M]VonHuLK wrote: Dragon800 and Ghostrider have always been fair in any game I've seen them in. As far as Libiak, I've never been in a game with him where he had a positive KDR. HIS "tactics" never get him anywhere. I look forward to seeing him, easy target.

The players I saw were all noobs and appear to change names. I've often paid it forward to help noobs who struggled to learn the rules of the game.

But this new crop is clearly team-killing and using other tactics on purpose.

Was in a game with Ghostrider and he plays fair. Good guy.

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote: 0#0#0#LIBIAK ALI

We all know his style of play, dropping to camp and spawn kill. I deal with it in a game and that is that. No big deal, but now it was his teammates that ticked me off, not so much his play. I just had a game where we were outnumbered and LIBIAK was a red doing his thing. All his teammates just kept playing like nothing wrong was happening even after it was stated many times and a free pass comment was blown off. Well it's payback time from me.

Whenever I see a player like LIBIAK on my team I always give the reds a free pass. I did not get that respect. In fact I got the complete opposite. George from WW was even ok with spawn killing and calling it tactical play. Your comment about being ok to screw people over, well screw you now. Let's see how he will like it when I get all tactical on him. Bet you he leaves. !TBH*[CSK] even went as far as using the tank glitch in the btc game to top it all off (see screen shot below).

HERE IS WHAT I AM GOING TO BE DOING AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL DO THE SAME AGAINST PLAYERS LIKE THIS.

Any player that continues to play in a game with LIBIAK ALI as a normal game are going to get a full force, all out, anything goes play from me in the future and forever. I WILL NOT LET IT GO...EVER. I will use every type of play available against any red on his team...

AND YES ON ANYONE WHO HAS EVER GIVEN HIM SUPPORT DURING PLAY. IF ANYONE DOESN'T LIKE THIS OR AGREE WITH ME...TOO BAD!

You should have been cool enough in the first place to give a free pass to let me deal with him and not make it harder.

I MEAN NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE HERE IN DF. I TAKE IT OFFENSIVELY WHEN PLAYERS SUPPORT PLAYERS LIKE LIBIAK ALI. NOW I WILL HANDLE IT MY WAY.

IF ANYONE SEES ME IN A GAME AGAINST LIBIAK ALI OR ANY OF THE NAMES I AM LISTING HERE I SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU LEAVE THE GAME OR GIVE ME SUPPORT IN THE GAME BY NOT ASSISTING THEM IN ANY WAY. IT IS WHAT ANY AND EVERY RESPECTABLE PLAYER AND I DO OFTEN IN A GAME WHEN THE SITUATION ARISES.

Anyone who knows me knows that I play as straight as an arrow and will continue to do so against those who have my respect. It is to these players that I apologize before hand should you see me in a game using all available play. Just know that it is being done as payback and it is not directed at you. I will not have this continue to happen to me over and over again while I turn the other cheek and I get that one slapped too.

- LIBIAK ALI
- George[WW*]
- !TBH*[CSK]
- Dragon 800

You got it, Big Gunzzz! I feel the same way , no surprise there, I guess. I have been royally ticked at this guy for a while now. I have been handling it by making it my business to go after him, but others have supported him by shooting me in the back while I am tied up with him. Even after I have explained what I was doing and why! People like that ruin the game for all of us, imo. You have my support, gunzzz.

Dunc7 wrote:

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote: 0#0#0#LIBIAK ALI

We all know his style of play, dropping to camp and spawn kill. I deal with it in a game and that is that. No big deal, but now it was his teammates that ticked me off, not so much his play. I just had a game where we were outnumbered and LIBIAK was a red doing his thing. All his teammates just kept playing like nothing wrong was happening even after it was stated many times and a free pass comment was blown off. Well it's payback time from me.

Whenever I see a player like LIBIAK on my team I always give the reds a free pass. I did not get that respect. In fact I got the complete opposite. George from WW was even ok with spawn killing and calling it tactical play. Your comment about being ok to screw people over, well screw you now. Let's see how he will like it when I get all tactical on him. Bet you he leaves. !TBH*[CSK] even went as far as using the tank glitch in the btc game to top it all off (see screen shot below).

HERE IS WHAT I AM GOING TO BE DOING AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL DO THE SAME AGAINST PLAYERS LIKE THIS.

Any player that continues to play in a game with LIBIAK ALI as a normal game are going to get a full force, all out, anything goes play from me in the future and forever. I WILL NOT LET IT GO...EVER. I will use every type of play available against any red on his team...

AND YES ON ANYONE WHO HAS EVER GIVEN HIM SUPPORT DURING PLAY. IF ANYONE DOESN'T LIKE THIS OR AGREE WITH ME...TOO BAD!

You should have been cool enough in the first place to give a free pass to let me deal with him and not make it harder.

I MEAN NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE HERE IN DF. I TAKE IT OFFENSIVELY WHEN PLAYERS SUPPORT PLAYERS LIKE LIBIAK ALI. NOW I WILL HANDLE IT MY WAY.

IF ANYONE SEES ME IN A GAME AGAINST LIBIAK ALI OR ANY OF THE NAMES I AM LISTING HERE I SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU LEAVE THE GAME OR GIVE ME SUPPORT IN THE GAME BY NOT ASSISTING THEM IN ANY WAY. IT IS WHAT ANY AND EVERY RESPECTABLE PLAYER AND I DO OFTEN IN A GAME WHEN THE SITUATION ARISES.

Anyone who knows me knows that I play as straight as an arrow and will continue to do so against those who have my respect. It is to these players that I apologize before hand should you see me in a game using all available play. Just know that it is being done as payback and it is not directed at you. I will not have this continue to happen to me over and over again while I turn the other cheek and I get that one slapped too.

- LIBIAK ALI
- George[WW*]
- !TBH*[CSK]
- Dragon 800

You got it, Big Gunzzz! I feel the same way , no surprise there, I guess. I have been royally ticked at this guy for a while now. I have been handling it by making it my business to go after him, but others have supported him by shooting me in the back while I am tied up with him. Even after I have explained what I was doing and why! People like that ruin the game for all of us, imo. You have my support, gunzzz.

Oh dunc you certainly know how to make me chuckle brother LIBIAK ALI soon leaves a game when he's singled out on 20 occasions he was blue n started to camp noobs I think REZ from GI showed up in one of them games i said to Him feel free to Go For LIBAK n he took care of him I ended up sitting on Duck mountain Lets just say after five mins of me sitting there I had LIBAK say on Team chat to help him I turned round n said nope Gunzzz feel free to have a free pass from me on any idiot

TXLAWMAN wrote: I'll stick up for dragon and ghost. They have always been straight with me red or blue. They are good players that don't deserved to be lumped into a category with the others. You might try pming them versus calling them out like this.

As for Nairobi, he was on my team camping on noobs. I switched sides and he ran off. He used to be a good player. Sad that he is doing that.

Hey TX

I hear where you are coming from and I used to feel the same way. I have no issue moving onto the next game if someone does something I don't like. It's not a big deal. I have always done that. There are just some things I can't stand.

Let me explain...

I started playing here in April '15. Ever since then Dragon 800 used to always drop and go around killing everyone, me included. I hated seeing him in a game, but I never complained about it. Now 800 is getting some payback from me now that I can handle myself in the skies.

800 didn't like it one bit when I did what LIBIAK ALI was doing to me to him. Plus, I went after 800 alone with no support from other players where I had LIABIAK ALI and the entire team after me, especially being short handed. So yes, I lost all respect for 800. If a player supports a guy like LIBIAK ALI they may as well be doing the same to me. That's my take on it. Others can disagree.

As for GHOSTRIDER1, I have played countless number of games with him. I always had the utmost respect for him as he would be the first to voice against a player who would use questionable tactics. Basically we were on the same page as to what was right and wrong, except that he was against sneakers where I have alway been ok with it. Then over the past few weeks his play has changed. I guess you can compare it to the comment you made about Nairobi, if that helps you get a better understanding of how I feel. GHOSTRIDER1 has used a handleful of tactics that don't sit well with me. Him using the tank glitch in a btb game was the last draw for me. And what gets me the most about him is that he would barage players with insults that chose to sneak. Now, sneaking is a regular thing for him, which I am absolutely ok with. I think sneaking is a great part of this game, but don't insult another player when they do it then turn around and do it yourself.

I hope you can understand where I am coming from now. You don't have to agree with me, but it's how I want to handle the situation now. I didn't get respect and now I will not show it.

Dunc, Deli, and all others that seem to get it

Players like LIBIAK ALI should not get any support from their teammates. That's my point. If a player will support someone like that you may as well be doing the same thing too. What you did Deli is a great thing. I would even take it a step further and go after LIBIAK ALI as well. I love getting the 5 minute ban for a good reason like that.

Dunc, yesss, you are so right. When you are on a mission trying to deal with the LIBIAK ALIs of DF you should be left alone. So many players here get it and will honor that. It's not a hard thing to understand. If they don't, they are just as guilty of the same as far as I am concerned.

In the game that I am referring to, this was going on for a while. All these players had more than enough time to do something to stop the bs, but didn't. They just added to it. So yep, I am ticked off at them all.

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:

TXLAWMAN wrote: I'll stick up for dragon and ghost. They have always been straight with me red or blue. They are good players that don't deserved to be lumped into a category with the others. You might try pming them versus calling them out like this.

As for Nairobi, he was on my team camping on noobs. I switched sides and he ran off. He used to be a good player. Sad that he is doing that.

Hey TX

I hear where you are coming from and I used to feel the same way. I have no issue moving onto the next game if someone does something I don't like. It's not a big deal. I have always done that. There are just some things I can't stand.

Let me explain...

I started playing here in April '15. Ever since then Dragon 800 used to always drop and go around killing everyone, me included. I hated seeing him in a game, but I never complained about it. Now 800 is getting some payback from me now that I can handle myself in the skies.

800 didn't like it one bit when I did what LIBIAK ALI was doing to me to him. Plus, I went after 800 alone with no support from other players where I had LIABIAK ALI and the entire team after me, especially being short handed. So yes, I lost all respect for 800. If a player supports a guy like LIBIAK ALI they may as well be doing the same to me. That's my take on it. Others can disagree.

As for GHOSTRIDER1, I have played countless number of games with him. I always had the utmost respect for him as he would be the first to voice against a player who would use questionable tactics. Basically we were on the same page as to what was right and wrong, except that he was against sneakers where I have alway been ok with it. Then over the past few weeks his play has changed. I guess you can compare it to the comment you made about Nairobi, if that helps you get a better understanding of how I feel. GHOSTRIDER1 has used a handleful of tactics that don't sit well with me. Him using the tank glitch in a btb game was the last draw for me. And what gets me the most about him is that he would barage players with insults that chose to sneak. Now, sneaking is a regular thing for him, which I am absolutely ok with. I think sneaking is a great part of this game, but don't insult another player when they do it then turn around and do it yourself.

I hope you can understand where I am coming from now. You don't have to agree with me, but it's how I want to handle the situation now. I didn't get respect and now I will not show it.

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As for ghostrider I have seen a serious change in him .in.more than one game he's pulled a bubi just hangs over his carrier never leaving or tryin to attack .just waits for guys with bombs to fly over
It's sad to see a once great and honorable pilot stoop to such tactics.if you want to call that a tactic

Gunzz, you've exposed an interesting loophole in the legitimate revenge laws, first tested in early 2013 (The Crown v quark if I remember rightly). We have ever since been quite comfortable with summary justice in game against an a**hole who is spawn killing, camping, glitching, cussing etc, but what about the perpetrator's team mates, who 'innocently' take advantage of an iniquitous situation and just play on? Well, I think any criminal court would see them as accomplices, which in certain jurisdictions is just as heinous. I remember stealing a parking space from an old woman in an old Toyota who was held up by a load of students stealing shopping carts from my local supermarket. They were crowding her way and I just turned a blind eye and slipped in (to the parking slot, not the old lady....calm down! I'm trying to keep this serious!)
Anyway I feel dirty for that (for the parking incident, not the stupid joke). I'm sure many of you have had similar guilty experiences.
So, yes, hang the accomplices. Burn them all!
Oh, and yes. I've been drinking. Sorry Gunzz for my other insulting post on another thread. I hope this makes amends. If it doesn't, whatever, I'm going for a refill...cheers

i'll raise my concerns here. im with you on that big gunzzz..please include there richport. i was in a game earlier with fast_furios and with two other guys. didnt know that fast was in a game before that with rich BTC game. where he also tank glichted and is invisible on our carrier. two games in a row he did that. fast experienced the 2 games. sad to say he is a MORAF and doing that thing. hate players like that..not that good but ill try to bring em all down..

I've been thinking .most of the players just do whatever they want now only for one reason .zup has let the game fall into turmoil and is so concentrated on Df 2 he doesn't seem to see what's been happening to this once glorious game .I find it funny that I see more noobs trying to learn and play hard than some of these so called morafs .for the most part this game has dropped to a new low .and why not when the developer seems to have lost his love for what he created so he has left us to deal with this crap on our own.like I said everyone needs to start in game reporting maybe if zup gets enough of them he will actually see what has become of his once proud game .I'd like to see zup fly for one week under another name just to see what is really going on in the game now .I've been waiting for Df 2 for quite some time now I'd rather wait a bit longer for it and get this game straightened out .

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:

TXLAWMAN wrote: I'll stick up for dragon and ghost. They have always been straight with me red or blue. They are good players that don't deserved to be lumped into a category with the others. You might try pming them versus calling them out like this.

As for Nairobi, he was on my team camping on noobs. I switched sides and he ran off. He used to be a good player. Sad that he is doing that.

Hey TX

I hear where you are coming from and I used to feel the same way. I have no issue moving onto the next game if someone does something I don't like. It's not a big deal. I have always done that. There are just some things I can't stand.

Let me explain...

I started playing here in April '15. Ever since then Dragon 800 used to always drop and go around killing everyone, me included. I hated seeing him in a game, but I never complained about it. Now 800 is getting some payback from me now that I can handle myself in the skies.

800 didn't like it one bit when I did what LIBIAK ALI was doing to me to him. Plus, I went after 800 alone with no support from other players where I had LIABIAK ALI and the entire team after me, especially being short handed. So yes, I lost all respect for 800. If a player supports a guy like LIBIAK ALI they may as well be doing the same to me. That's my take on it. Others can disagree.

As for GHOSTRIDER1, I have played countless number of games with him. I always had the utmost respect for him as he would be the first to voice against a player who would use questionable tactics. Basically we were on the same page as to what was right and wrong, except that he was against sneakers where I have alway been ok with it. Then over the past few weeks his play has changed. I guess you can compare it to the comment you made about Nairobi, if that helps you get a better understanding of how I feel. GHOSTRIDER1 has used a handleful of tactics that don't sit well with me. Him using the tank glitch in a btb game was the last draw for me. And what gets me the most about him is that he would barage players with insults that chose to sneak. Now, sneaking is a regular thing for him, which I am absolutely ok with. I think sneaking is a great part of this game, but don't insult another player when they do it then turn around and do it yourself.

I hope you can understand where I am coming from now. You don't have to agree with me, but it's how I want to handle the situation now. I didn't get respect and now I will not show it.

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I dont like ghostrider because one time I was sneaking he called me a sissy and then after that he said my step dad was almost a real soldier
That's when he lost his respect from me
And then that's when I made the military branches thread and people thought I was insulting the Marines then I Los the respect.

darraxx wrote: I've been thinking .most of the players just do whatever they want now only for one reason .zup has let the game fall into turmoil and is so concentrated on Df 2 he doesn't seem to see what's been happening to this once glorious game .I find it funny that I see more noobs trying to learn and play hard than some of these so called morafs .for the most part this game has dropped to a new low .and why not when the developer seems to have lost his love for what he created so he has left us to deal with this crap on our own.like I said everyone needs to start in game reporting maybe if zup gets enough of them he will actually see what has become of his once proud game .I'd like to see zup fly for one week under another name just to see what is really going on in the game now .I've been waiting for Df 2 for quite some time now I'd rather wait a bit longer for it and get this game straightened out .

You are 100% right. I have no clue how DF ran before I got here, but since April '15, there has always been a lot of trash in this game whether it's in game play or here in forum. From my understanding apparently there are no moderators, or at least not as many, around to keep things running smoothly. It is sad.

I have been sending in game reports and emails ONLY against those who deservingly needed to be reported. I am not talking about a small infraction or something that I didn't like. I am talking about the bannable ones like tank spawn killing and constant cursing from some. Unfortunately only less than a handful have been handled with and the rest are still around.

So yes, it has reached a point where I feel it is up to us players to handle it just like you mentioned. I am fed up with sitting back and only dealing with it in one game where a player chooses to be out of line. Most of the times that player ends up leaving the game anyway. So instead of just going after a player like this in one game, I am going after them in every game.

I can guarantee if these players did not get any support from there teammates and all where to attack them, they would think differently about what they are doing now. I have always been on a mission to put an end to this trash and now I am going to act more on it. I can only hope more respectable players will do the same.

I dont like ghostrider because one time I was sneaking he called me a sissy and then after that he said my step dad was almost a real soldier
That's when he lost his respect from me
And then that's when I made the military branches thread and people thought I was insulting the Marines then I Los the respect.
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Golden Eagle

That is exactly the word he likes to use, sissy.

GHOSTRIDER1 should be calling himself one too now and even worse. If he can dish it, he should be able to take it. So feel free to call him a sissy anytime you want in a game. He deserves it. I don't want to encourage name calling, but he has it coming to him.
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Yea like a few weeks ago I saw him camping noobs and I was there why you call us sissys if you camp so people wont shoot at you

One might question their stand when golden is so strongly on your side...

Allow me to defend myself.....

First, sneaking. I have no general problem w sneaking, I do it myself from time to time and it is acceptable gameplay. While I don't like to see it employed over and over and very early on what I vehemently disapprove of, is multiple players using the tactic on multiple runs when the opposition is either outnumberd or outgunned.

Second, camping and spawnkilling. I always have and always will kill everything on my scope that is red. My policy on a bomb run of any kind, is to pin the enemy to the runway or carrier. This has been standard op proc for years and I will not stop. My policies on camping have never been to camp for the hell of it but to provide cover and/or confusion for incoming bombers and tanks on the scope or not. I also, as a general policy camp in defend the zep and ctc as a means of suppression, and will continue to do so.

Third, tank glich. I do not approve of this tactic but have succumbed to the temptation about a dozen times all togeather either to end a long fought game with one or two hits, to repay a red who did the same, or to end a bad game quickly. It seems however that more than half of the times I have used this BG has been in red and I can see how this would look to him. I had no idea it botherd THAT much. Out of respect for you and the countless games we have played, I will not employ this tactic in your presence ever again, and will strive to do the same in other games. If I haves ruined a game for you BG, I am sorry.

Finally, I have always tried to play this game with honor and integrity. I am certainly not the most honorable, but I do not belong lumped in with teamkillers, skers, blatant campers, and droppers like bubi and liback. I my not be the most honorable but I have NEVER had a ban, 1 negative word said about me on this forum until today. I don't drop unless provoked, and continue to fight as if I have a bomb after the fact. I don't camp Just for stats, I don't sneak on a weaker team, and I rarely run my mouth. I ALWAYS give and honor a pass when it's needed and ALWAYS will.

There have been some negative things said about me here today, and I don't appreciate it. Anybody on here who has a problem is welcome to PM me to discuss an issue before airing any beef publicly. I am confedent that any negitive feelings toward me are are outweighed by positive feelings from those who know me.

My code has always been my code and its non negotiable. There has been no "change" in my gameplay and there never will be.

TXLAWMAN wrote: One might question their stand when golden is so strongly on your side...

Golden Eagle has never crossed my path in a wrong way. I have nothing bad to say about the kid other than him watching out for his choice of words. In fact, ever since he and I first met, he has always been very polite with me. So how am I not supposed to like this kid?

Lately we have been in a few games together and once again I seen nothing wrong. I actually see a kid who truly enjoys playing this game. Heck, if I was his age and had a game like this, man I would be excited too.

A lot of things were said between GE and some others players here. I am not going to say who is to blame because I do not know. Seems like both sides had some right and wrong issues. GE did get it from all angles and it may have been more than he could handle. He is young and we older players have to keep that in mind. Just as we should try to relate to someone his age, he needs to do the same. The thing that bothered me the most from some of the other guys was that they teased him about his threads. He did nothing wrong. He posted things that interested him. If a player didn't care for his threads, they simply could have moved on without leaving smart aleck responses. Come on...picking on a young kid like that. Not cool.

One issue that came across was him using the tank glitch on the carrier. Even though this is a known cheat play I don't think he was wrong for using it. It seems like everyone overlooked the note that he made that he was issuing a payback against a player in that game. If this was true, then I say the kid has matured quite a bit and did the right thing. If he used the glitch with no other reason than to glitch, well then he is completely wrong.

Either way what I am trying to say is that I think GE is actually a cool kid. What others think about him is up to everyone else. I do however want to point out that he was getting hit by multiple players and that would be tough on any one of us no matter what age. Did he deserve that? Yes, somewhat, but so do some of the other players. Not all, but yes some.

He is certainly polarizing. Probably a nice kid. I hope he has a happy life and enjoys much success. As a father of 4 teens, I have zero patience for any yeen including my own thatbis so closed to the wisdom of others. Especially in as diverse a community as this. He has quite a bit of maturing to do. Of course, I was in the same boat at 14. Besides, I'm a Mean Old Man! The only reason I'm here to yell at people to get off my damn lawn!

GHOSTRIDER1 wrote: Allow me to defend myself.....

First, sneaking. I have no general problem w sneaking, I do it myself from time to time and it is acceptable gameplay. While I don't like to see it employed over and over and very early on what I vehemently disapprove of, is multiple players using the tactic on multiple runs when the opposition is either outnumberd or outgunned.

Second, camping and spawnkilling. I always have and always will kill everything on my scope that is red. My policy on a bomb run of any kind, is to pin the enemy to the runway or carrier. This has been standard op proc for years and I will not stop. My policies on camping have never been to camp for the hell of it but to provide cover and/or confusion for incoming bombers and tanks on the scope or not. I also, as a general policy camp in defend the zep and ctc as a means of suppression, and will continue to do so.

Third, tank glich. I do not approve of this tactic but have succumbed to the temptation about a dozen times all togeather either to end a long fought game with one or two hits, to repay a red who did the same, or to end a bad game quickly. It seems however that more than half of the times I have used this BG has been in red and I can see how this would look to him. I had no idea it botherd THAT much. Out of respect for you and the countless games we have played, I will not employ this tactic in your presence ever again, and will strive to do the same in other games. If I haves ruined a game for you BG, I am sorry.

Finally, I have always tried to play this game with honor and integrity. I am certainly not the most honorable, but I do not belong lumped in with teamkillers, skers, blatant campers, and droppers like bubi and liback. I my not be the most honorable but I have NEVER had a ban, 1 negative word said about me on this forum until today. I don't drop unless provoked, and continue to fight as if I have a bomb after the fact. I don't camp Just for stats, I don't sneak on a weaker team, and I rarely run my mouth. I ALWAYS give and honor a pass when it's needed and ALWAYS will.

There have been some negative things said about me here today, and I don't appreciate it. Anybody on here who has a problem is welcome to PM me to discuss an issue before airing any beef publicly. I am confedent that any negitive feelings toward me are are outweighed by positive feelings from those who know me.

My code has always been my code and its non negotiable. There has been no "change" in my gameplay and there never will be.

Hey GHOST

I have played in so many games with you throughout my time here. I have to say you have always been quite the honorable player. Well other than you calling sneaks a sissy.

Don't know what happened over the past few weeks with you. I just don't see that same guy that I knew. All I can go by is what I see in the games that we play in and it seems like you have been involved in play that you so strongly used to be against.

Your post here is spoken like a true gentleman. More like the man I thought you were. I may not agree with all that you state here, but then again who the heck here does completely agree with eachother. I do however respect your choice of words on this post. When I noticed that you left a post here I could only say to myself "oohhhh man...here we go". It's the complete opposite and I give you credit for that.

Glitches..yes they bother me that much. Why? Because they are glitches. It's self explainatory. I can overlook most things that happen and always do. It is only when I see a regular pattern develop in a player that I do get offended. Especially when it comes from a player that states to play one way and actually goes about playing the game another way. When done to me from a player that I thought would show me some respect I consider it a slap to my face. When I don't get respect I don't give it either. Especially when the disrespect comes from a player that I have never given a reason to cross any lines against me.

So this is why I am ticked if you must know.

TXLAWMAN wrote: He is certainly polarizing. Probably a nice kid. I hope he has a happy life and enjoys much success. As a father of 4 teens, I have zero patience for any yeen including my own thatbis so closed to the wisdom of others. Especially in as diverse a community as this. He has quite a bit of maturing to do. Of course, I was in the same boat at 14. Besides, I'm a Mean Old Man! The only reason I'm here to yell at people to get off my damn lawn!

You are so lucky you didn't know me when I was his age. I would have got your old butt up to hunt me down. And I mean literally. You would be at my doorsteps because I ticked you off that bad. Yesss I was that much of a pain in the rear. Plus I didn't want to hear anything from anyone, especially older folks. I am so the opposite now and maybe because I was this way before, I have a tolerance and understanding for it.

TXLAWMAN wrote: He is certainly polarizing. Probably a nice kid. I hope he has a happy life and enjoys much success. As a father of 4 teens, I have zero patience for any yeen including my own thatbis so closed to the wisdom of others. Especially in as diverse a community as this. He has quite a bit of maturing to do. Of course, I was in the same boat at 14. Besides, I'm a Mean Old Man! The only reason I'm here to yell at people to get off my damn lawn!

Mom decrees all 12 year olds must die. MOM decrees all 13 year olds must die. MOM decrees all 14 year olds must die. MOM decrees all...... You get the idea.

GHOSTRIDER1 wrote: Allow me to defend myself.....

First, sneaking. I have no general problem w sneaking, I do it myself from time to time and it is acceptable gameplay. While I don't like to see it employed over and over and very early on what I vehemently disapprove of, is multiple players using the tactic on multiple runs when the opposition is either outnumberd or outgunned.

Second, camping and spawnkilling. I always have and always will kill everything on my scope that is red. My policy on a bomb run of any kind, is to pin the enemy to the runway or carrier. This has been standard op proc for years and I will not stop. My policies on camping have never been to camp for the hell of it but to provide cover and/or confusion for incoming bombers and tanks on the scope or not. I also, as a general policy camp in defend the zep and ctc as a means of suppression, and will continue to do so.

Third, tank glich. I do not approve of this tactic but have succumbed to the temptation about a dozen times all togeather either to end a long fought game with one or two hits, to repay a red who did the same, or to end a bad game quickly. It seems however that more than half of the times I have used this BG has been in red and I can see how this would look to him. I had no idea it botherd THAT much. Out of respect for you and the countless games we have played, I will not employ this tactic in your presence ever again, and will strive to do the same in other games. If I haves ruined a game for you BG, I am sorry.

Finally, I have always tried to play this game with honor and integrity. I am certainly not the most honorable, but I do not belong lumped in with teamkillers, skers, blatant campers, and droppers like bubi and liback. I my not be the most honorable but I have NEVER had a ban, 1 negative word said about me on this forum until today. I don't drop unless provoked, and continue to fight as if I have a bomb after the fact. I don't camp Just for stats, I don't sneak on a weaker team, and I rarely run my mouth. I ALWAYS give and honor a pass when it's needed and ALWAYS will.

There have been some negative things said about me here today, and I don't appreciate it. Anybody on here who has a problem is welcome to PM me to discuss an issue before airing any beef publicly. I am confedent that any negitive feelings toward me are are outweighed by positive feelings from those who know me.

My code has always been my code and its non negotiable. There has been no "change" in my gameplay and there never will be.

I have somethings I would like to air out here,
1. You shoot me WAY too much.

2. You are ALWAYS red.

3. You... Well, I will think of something later.

I WAS IN A GAME OTHER DAY WITH ONE OF THOSE SPAWN KILLERS NOW I JUST DONT RECALL NAME RIGHT NOT BUT ANYWAY I JUST GOT UP KILLED HIM AND ENDED UP WINNING GAME LOL.