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Everybody, pertains to gameplay. 9 years 10 months ago #304736

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If you see me in game I will not longer stay unless there is a dropper.
If there is a dropper, I will only go for him. Honest.
If you try to kill me, well I'll try and get past.
I have decided to throw everything out the window to try and rid this game of them myself... (I'll give them a fair chance; within the rules)
Thanks alot alex the dstroer , you have brought this on your kind and will only be safe hiding in your grave.
P.s. alex the dstroer, Black Devil Bubi, Calle- You are the ones that will go first.
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Everybody, pertains to gameplay. 9 years 10 months ago #304738

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Jerry...while I applaud your spirit I feel you are going beyond where you need to be. Dropping is a part of the game. Not against any rules. So carrying on a vendetta against those who do drop is over the top. If they drop, I drop. Simple. Just sayin'. You can do as you like. Have fun.

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Thx bro, just going to be simple back-up for people wanting to play in peace.
I'm about over droppers wizzing by my head with a great player like mean shooting me at the same time.

I understand tactics. I understand styles of play.
I am just the counter-weight. To balance the scale, not tip it over by killing everyone.
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Everybody, pertains to gameplay. 9 years 10 months ago #304741

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I was in a tough game last night, and there was a couple droppers, newer players, even though not a big problem like Bubi, it still was a distraction. The biggest culprit was Duks.
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What if it's a CTC or CTF game?!


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Husky Dog {WP} wrote: What if it's a CTC or CTF game?!

Going to leave, unless they dropped in a game before.
Ex: Bubi enters, I kill him like always.
Main games this applies to are: BTB, BTC
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Everybody, pertains to gameplay. 9 years 10 months ago #304753

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As RT stated, there will always be droppers.. some as you pointed out Calle & Bubi & a few others are unrepentant droppers ALTHOUGH I HAVE seen Bubi win a bombing mission with the final bombed hangar from a good sneak!

Nothing wrong Pie with playing the game however you wish within the rules of the game, and the reds that drop aren't breaking any rules really.. but I do the same as RT.. I carry in bombing missions until I come up against a dropper with an upper level plane (I can out dogfight most mid-level planes sans bomb and all lower-level planes -their bomb) then the golden rule comes into play.. if THEY drop, I drop.. and then them AND all their teammates pay the price because after I kill them I am not going to fly back and pick up a bomb until I either run out of ammo or am shot down.. THEN I will fly with a bomb again unless they continue to drop.

It's a respect thing.. I respect those that enjoy the challenge of long-range shooting in a bombing mission & won't disrupt their game because of that respect.. even if I suck at it myself lol! :silly:
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I just hate to have to drop in bombing games, so when there is a known dropper I just tend to leave, unless I'm in the mood to drop and target them.
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Zeb RT Pie n Eagle you all have valid points on this but pie how many games me n you have flown Bubi has shown up and sat there :lol: However Zeb I've noticed Bubi do a good sneak with a bomb to win a game I think Bubi likes to drop till there's 1/2 hangers left then he will go for a sneak to win the game. Pie you are also right the amount of Droppers in games I could name a few lower levels than both me n you who drop but I will drop if I'm with a team of noobs then there's droppers in the game n I will target all reds provide cover for them noobs to make way RT Zeb n Eagle are pointing this out so you all have valid points to go on.
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Good spirit!

That's where I was when the whole thing changed for me. Just keep your eyes open. As you engage the droppers you may notice a whole new dynamic of the game open up. (Hopefully you don't abandon your team or become a relentless spawn killer as you do this, that would be joining the dark side and "game ruining" its self. )

The first thing you'll notice is that not all droppers are cowards and bad players. You will actually have to work at it and use strategy to make it so your blue teammates can get the hangars and ships. Just shooting the droppers relentlessly sends them back to the spawnpoint and the best place to defend against incoming bombers. If you play it right you will coordinate with the blues and work as a distraction. If the blues let you know when they are getting close, hold your fire.

Congratulations. You have just stepped up your game and will now give those who use dropping as a tactic a run for their money and you will also be able to help your teammates who choose to carry.

Game on!

(But hey, no need to leave a game where everyone carries...that's fun too.)
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ZebraUp wrote: As RT stated, there will always be droppers.. some as you pointed out Calle & Bubi & a few others are unrepentant droppers ALTHOUGH I HAVE seen Bubi win a bombing mission with the final bombed hangar from a good sneak!

Nothing wrong Pie with playing the game however you wish within the rules of the game, and the reds that drop aren't breaking any rules really.. but I do the same as RT.. I carry in bombing missions until I come up against a dropper with an upper level plane (I can out dogfight most mid-level planes sans bomb and all lower-level planes -their bomb) then the golden rule comes into play.. if THEY drop, I drop.. and then them AND all their teammates pay the price because after I kill them I am not going to fly back and pick up a bomb until I either run out of ammo or am shot down.. THEN I will fly with a bomb again unless they continue to drop.

It's a respect thing.. I respect those that enjoy the challenge of long-range shooting in a bombing mission & won't disrupt their game because of that respect.. even if I suck at it myself lol! :silly:


That's the point. Stay IF they need me. Don't if they Don't. Not involving anyone else... just there to help them while carriers carry on.
I take the dropper, they take the actual bombers. I understand they are doing nothing wrong, it's strategy. I'm just there to stop them.
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ZebraUp wrote: As RT stated, there will always be droppers.. some as you pointed out Calle & Bubi & a few others are unrepentant droppers ALTHOUGH I HAVE seen Bubi win a bombing mission with the final bombed hangar from a good sneak!

Nothing wrong Pie with playing the game however you wish within the rules of the game, and the reds that drop aren't breaking any rules really.. but I do the same as RT.. I carry in bombing missions until I come up against a dropper with an upper level plane (I can out dogfight most mid-level planes sans bomb and all lower-level planes -their bomb) then the golden rule comes into play.. if THEY drop, I drop.. and then them AND all their teammates pay the price because after I kill them I am not going to fly back and pick up a bomb until I either run out of ammo or am shot down.. THEN I will fly with a bomb again unless they continue to drop.

It's a respect thing.. I respect those that enjoy the challenge of long-range shooting in a bombing mission & won't disrupt their game because of that respect.. even if I suck at it myself lol! :silly:


No disrespect Zeb I don't have a problem with dropping it's always been a part of the game and always will be, but my question to you is this you say a dropper comes into a bombing mission everybody as been carrying the whole game having a good time and let's say Bubi comes in and starts dropping ok fine not a problem your gunna drop and go after him cool i would do the same. But you say you will make the rest of his team pay because of his style of play? :huh: you say it's a respect thing :unsure: how's that being respectful to those who have been playing a clean game? Why not ask for a free pass and say you won't bomb?

Me I return to base or ask for that pass but someone with your flying ability ;) should be able to out maneuver most any players here and only target the one you are going after and then pin him to the runway till you run out of ammo. evil: :)
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[*M]TBUILT wrote:

ZebraUp wrote: As RT stated, there will always be droppers.. some as you pointed out Calle & Bubi & a few others are unrepentant droppers ALTHOUGH I HAVE seen Bubi win a bombing mission with the final bombed hangar from a good sneak!

Nothing wrong Pie with playing the game however you wish within the rules of the game, and the reds that drop aren't breaking any rules really.. but I do the same as RT.. I carry in bombing missions until I come up against a dropper with an upper level plane (I can out dogfight most mid-level planes sans bomb and all lower-level planes -their bomb) then the golden rule comes into play.. if THEY drop, I drop.. and then them AND all their teammates pay the price because after I kill them I am not going to fly back and pick up a bomb until I either run out of ammo or am shot down.. THEN I will fly with a bomb again unless they continue to drop.

It's a respect thing.. I respect those that enjoy the challenge of long-range shooting in a bombing mission & won't disrupt their game because of that respect.. even if I suck at it myself lol! :silly:


No disrespect Zeb I don't have a problem with dropping it's always been a part of the game and always will be, but my question to you is this you say a dropper comes into a bombing mission everybody as been carrying the whole game having a good time and let's say Bubi comes in and starts dropping ok fine not a problem your gunna drop and go after him cool i would do the same. But you say you will make the rest of his team pay because of his style of play? :huh: you say it's a respect thing :unsure: how's that being respectful to those who have been playing a clean game? Why not ask for a free pass and say you won't bomb?

Me I return to base or ask for that pass but someone with your flying ability ;) should be able to out maneuver most any players here and only target the one you are going after and then pin him to the runway till you run out of ammo. evil: :)

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You are talking habitual dropper right? I drop when enemy is close to my home field to defend better, is that ok?



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I agree with everything TB said. That's exactly what I do in the same situation. I make it clear to all in the game that I am only going after the dropper and will not shoot at anyone else or bomb the hangers. Almost always this works out perfectly. Once in a while I get some players that will still shoot at me. I will ask them again to stop and if they don't, only then do I go after them too.

Tell you the truth I like many of the players in this game as friends. Then for me to go around and start killing any of them, well let's just say it doesn't sit right with me so I don't. The only exception I make is when a dropper is really taking advantage of being bombless and has consistantly pushed his/her way into my base and allows for his team to consistantly advance. That is when I send the message to the reds saying "sorry reds for what I am about to do. I am only doing it because the dropper is doing the same to my team". They all understand and are ok with it and that is when I will start killing all to push the playing field back to their side.

My biggest gripe with droppers is that once you drop to match their style of play and cease their ability to go around killing all, they are the first to leave the game. I know it's not every dropper that does this, but yes, almost all of them. So I am tired of hearing how this is a tactical play. It's them trying to go around and kill all. Once they can't they move on.
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pmoon1 wrote: You are talking habitual dropper right? I drop when enemy is close to my home field to defend better, is that ok?


Yes pmoon1

When the reds are within bombing range and you know it's your last chance to kill them before they bomb your hangers, then yes, by all means drop your bombs to make an attempt to stop them. I for one will not drop when they are still far away to give me a greater advantage. I only do it as a last resort.

Dropping is a very touchy topic to discuss. Many players are for it and many against it. My main thought of it is that I will drop when the occassion calls for it (such as what we described, chasing a sneaker, chasing a player that got behind me and is heading to my base to bomb, and some others).

Bottom line for me is I only drop when necessary. I do not drop to abuse the power of flying bombless with an advantage over the other planes. So when I find myself in the field bombless I do not fly around the other planes to kill them all. I will actually throttle down to match their speed to make it a fair situation. Yeah, maybe dumb on my part, but it's who I am. Unless the player is a butthead and deserves a beat down ;)
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This almost seems to me to be the same ol squabble. Had a game the other day I think sir pie was in and everyone seemed to drop. I don't care if they drop or not, I'll just have to adjust my gameplay style. But I simply mentioned, if everyone drops in a bombing mission, it's gonna be a really long game.
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WELL i fight fire with fire
yesterday i was in bomb carrier game and i was outnumbered 3 to 1 and the 3 thought it would be good to drop and go get there tanks' so to combat said Tank lurkers i drop +one enters the game and i have some help i already have no bombs and because so i make their carrier in good time .i already indicated to +one what the reds are up to and to beware i circle their carrier playing their game style .im shot down and they loose 50% of Carrier they realise by the time plus one gets there they are screwed and two leave the game.

all im saying is remember the same constraints of this game can apply to everyone use cheap tactics and so will i play fair so will i .im no turn fighter and most likely there are many better ones out there than me but ill keep you busy trying
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Thx for your compliment pie

[£F] Pie of Jerry wrote: Thx bro, just going to be simple back-up for people wanting to play in peace.
I'm about over droppers wizzing by my head with a great player like mean shooting me at the same time.

I understand tactics. I understand styles of play.
I am just the counter-weight. To balance the scale, not tip it over by killing everyone.

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I disagree.. but in a civil way. Just to add to the debate but not name call. I have that much respect for me & myself plus others. I won't name call.. that's a significance of stage 1 trolling. by means i am not a troll. I will discuse matters in a civil form, while respecting others opinion.

Now, I say i disagree with sum ideology only because it will never be a clean fun fair game as sum wants it to be. & it has nothing to do with dropping or head-on straight shooting. It has to do with the unequally yoked of game devices we are playing on. Even if we all played simultaneously encrypt together we would still experience a certainty level of unfairness due to our devices aren't in-synced ? yes.. 1 plays on phone, the other on tablet, while yes u guessed right, the latter being PC. All these different playing devices promotes not the same but rather different playing styles. Some of these devices are better in 1 category while lesser in another. Not saying it can't be done.. but yah, over all this is just the glitch we didn't want to see ? :unsure:

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Tired of the dropper complainers and the lumpers. Dropping is a strategy. Droppers at the fighter cover for the bombers. I always carry because I personally like to bomb more. But I respect droppers. Those who say droppers aren't doing the mission... If there are tanks who make no effort to bomb a hangar in btb are they doing the mission if they never make any attempt to bomb hangar in a tank? I like tanks shooting planes. Just pointing out the double standard of dropper complainers with restate to the argument of not doing the mission as reason for being a dropper complainer.

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I have no problem with people dropping, I don't drop unless I have to.
I have no problem with sneaking.
Both are tactics. I just can't stand the guys who camp - and more often than not its the droppers who seem to be camping.
I guess it keeps the game interesting.

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[*M]TBUILT wrote:

ZebraUp wrote: As RT stated, there will always be droppers.. some as you pointed out Calle & Bubi & a few others are unrepentant droppers ALTHOUGH I HAVE seen Bubi win a bombing mission with the final bombed hangar from a good sneak!

Nothing wrong Pie with playing the game however you wish within the rules of the game, and the reds that drop aren't breaking any rules really.. but I do the same as RT.. I carry in bombing missions until I come up against a dropper with an upper level plane (I can out dogfight most mid-level planes sans bomb and all lower-level planes -their bomb) then the golden rule comes into play.. if THEY drop, I drop.. and then them AND all their teammates pay the price because after I kill them I am not going to fly back and pick up a bomb until I either run out of ammo or am shot down.. THEN I will fly with a bomb again unless they continue to drop.

It's a respect thing.. I respect those that enjoy the challenge of long-range shooting in a bombing mission & won't disrupt their game because of that respect.. even if I suck at it myself lol! :silly:


No disrespect Zeb I don't have a problem with dropping it's always been a part of the game and always will be, but my question to you is this you say a dropper comes into a bombing mission everybody as been carrying the whole game having a good time and let's say Bubi comes in and starts dropping ok fine not a problem your gunna drop and go after him cool i would do the same. But you say you will make the rest of his team pay because of his style of play? :huh: you say it's a respect thing :unsure: how's that being respectful to those who have been playing a clean game? Why not ask for a free pass and say you won't bomb?

Me I return to base or ask for that pass but someone with your flying ability ;) should be able to out maneuver most any players here and only target the one you are going after and then pin him to the runway till you run out of ammo. evil: :)


I see your point TBuilt.. and the reason to make the droppers entire team pay the price of his dropping is to get them to apply peer pressure to the dropper and insist he carry. But if the circumstances were precisely as you outlined then yeah, I probably wouldn't shoot any of the others (unless they shot at me first!)
And btw, I have never pinned anyone to the runway.. it's no challenge. (Although I HAVE been tempted a time or two before lol! )But imagine if I thought spawnkilling was okay like I do sneaking & other tactics and then did like Calle & Bubi & a few others do?? It would be real ugly.. and I bet I could become one of the most hated players in the game pretty quickly lol!

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