E*A*G*L*E wrote:

Another burst of hot air from the game's biggest narcissist.

I'm with you on this one eagle, he's "asked for forgiveness" so many times it's not even funny, he's just going to probably start acting up again and then 'ask for forgiveness' again, its just a repeating process from what I see, I'm sorry if some of you don't agree with me on this but I just can't forgive him and expect him to just act civil. Until he proves me wrong, I still think he has to go

Maybe he/she's just trying to get his/her 'thank yours' up?
The fact that moron21 is on point with all his/her offensives kinda scares the crap out of me!

Moron why did you do this I team killed a total of 10 times and they were on accident I accidentally bombed my own teammate but he was invisible and I couldn't see him it scares me when I don't see anyone and out of no where a bomb turns comes out of nothing but air

Still 21, a douche is a douche. And if the shoe Fitts your a douche

MORAF 21 wrote: Thanks Spitfire . I really want to be accepted and I find most times I am my own enemy . Also I know this Juan guy who really wants to change.

WarEagle! wrote: It is possible to change, I for one can speak from expirence. Though I never team killed or even done 80% of the things you have I can say there was a time when I nieve, out spoken and not liked by many of the people here. But it was my own action that landed me in that position and it was my choice to get myself out of the hole I dug myself.
I used to talk a lot of crap here, I messed up once and it gave me a bad reputation I couldn't run from. The more I tried to fight it, the more it came back swinging. What was I doing wrong? Arguing my battles never got me many victories, in fact I was labeled for that and people said it was me who was causing the drama. Finally it occurred to me that I had to fight this bad reputation in a different fashion or angle. I only wanted to be like everyone else, liked and accepted. I loved the game and I didn't want to go anywhere but I had to change my ways. Finally I started ignoring certain people and forgiving them for what they know not what they do. Eventually after time, a few pm's later I found myself able to play the game in peace and get a long with people. I don't blame a lot of the people I used to argue with, I know there intentions were only good. But I had to show them I wasn't the person they thought I was. I can say they were right a lot of the time though, many of cases I wasn't wise, but they were also wrong at the same time.
My point is, actions speak louder that words, ignore the guilt and take ur turn. Forget about your past, and think of it as starting over and fresh and be the person who you originally wanted to be and I promise people will forgive you. Yeah, my past still comes up from time to time and yeah I still get into it with some people, but you just gotta learn to choose your battles that are worth fighting for.
I can say this moraf, if u really wanna change it only up to you, you're your own enemy in this case and it starts with you wanting to be a better person and committing to that. It's much easier, and enjoyable to come here and play the game in peace with no worries of monkeys on your back. I can proudly say I'm glad I am where I am today, for what's it's worth and where I came from. Rejoicing myself was the hardest battle I fought here, but you know what....I WON! I do wish things could've been better from the start but we all make mistakes, it's up to us to make change for ourselves and be the better person.

Thanks for giving your new name away. I was wondering what idiot that ranked this high would sit in a tank and try to blow teammates out of the sky. I didn't retaliate because you're not worth the points I would lose. I have stayed off threads involving you because you're just an attention whore. Nothing else. But this pic kinda matches your stats don't you think?

Have a nice day loser.

[*M]RAPTOR wrote: Still 21, a douche is a douche. And if the shoe Fitts your a douche

Here Raptor, I think these sums him up pretty well.

THE KID SOUNDS SINCERELY REGRETFULL OF HIS CRIMES. I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM ONE LAST CHANCE. IF HE FAILS AGAIN THEN WE HAND DOWN THE DEATH PENALTY ON HIM I THINK ITS A FAIR DEAL. RIGHT MORAF21. PERSONALLY I HAVE NEVER HAD TROUBLE WITH MORAF21 BEEN IN FEW GAMES WITH HIM.

T-REX wrote: THE KID SOUNDS SINCERELY REGRETFULL OF HIS CRIMES. I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM ONE LAST CHANCE. IF HE FAILS AGAIN THEN WE HAND DOWN THE DEATH PENALTY ON HIM I THINK ITS A FAIR DEAL. RIGHT MORAF21. PERSONALLY I HAVE NEVER HAD TROUBLE WITH MORAF21 BEEN IN FEW GAMES WITH HIM.

How many times does he have to sound sincerely regretful, and given a chance before you (and others) realize he's just playing with you?

He's bragged about being banned 4 times, gloated about destroying a squad from the inside, begged forgiveness saying he would never play dirty again, only to then go and team kill Zebra, and finished by bombing his own hangers.

He's been given chances over and over by others here. As for me, I noticed that anytime Moron21 lies is every time his mouth is moving (or in this case fingers typing).

But then he comes here for attention. This is my last post about this pathetic loser, as he isn't worth any more of my time. In my opinion, he should be permanently banned from this game and forum.

I'm with T-Rex. And I've seen this before. Forgiveness and acceptance is the best course. Moraf21 has shown signs that he means to change, but I guarantee that he will not change if he is just hounded, persecuted and given no room to adjust. He can leave DF forever, but what if he chooses not to? People can be very persistent if they don't want to go.

Like it or not, it's down to his supposed victims (who outnumber him 100:1) to break this unpleasant cycle of resentment and retaliation. As Blue Fighter said, forgiveness isn't easy, but that means it's a sign of strength rather than weakness.

Yeah, he's been a douche and upset a few influential players, but deep down what harm has he really done?

It looks like he's already taken McFate's wise advice and changed his name. Let him be and see what happens. No lynch mob please.

T-REX wrote: THE KID SOUNDS SINCERELY REGRETFULL OF HIS CRIMES. I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM ONE LAST CHANCE. IF HE FAILS AGAIN THEN WE HAND DOWN THE DEATH PENALTY ON HIM I THINK ITS A FAIR DEAL. RIGHT MORAF21. PERSONALLY I HAVE NEVER HAD TROUBLE WITH MORAF21 BEEN IN FEW GAMES WITH HIM.

Your a good dino rex, I mean that. Chances are you have had issues with this tool only you wouldn't know due to his coweredly numerous name changes and additional accounts. Eagle has the right idea same with comet.
WarEagle my good friend has a good piont only that it's hypothetical. Cause although he himself has seemingly tried to reform he is still the hot head that can't seem to stay out of trouble. I love ya war, I do. You know I'm speaking the facts. Of course war is his own worst enemy and just has a hard time leaving others opinions that differ from his as nothing more then just that personal opinions.
This douche is exactly what comet has described "a attention whore" that has no maral conviction as to Fairplay and spotsmanship. He is probably P U T O and a number of other lower then whale shit players we see in game.....

If he and Wilbur are different people they most certainly are cut of the same cloth.



I say to the galloes with the douche bag terd!!!

MORAF 21 Comes over to apologise and im like WHATEVER !!!!!

Ronnie Biggs wrote: I'm with T-Rex. And I've seen this before. Forgiveness and acceptance is the best course. Moraf21 has shown signs that he means to change, but I guarantee that he will not change if he is just hounded, persecuted and given no room to adjust. He can leave DF forever, but what if he chooses not to? People can be very persistent if they don't want to go.

Like it or not, it's down to his supposed victims (who outnumber him 100:1) to break this unpleasant cycle of resentment and retaliation. As Blue Fighter said, forgiveness isn't easy, but that means it's a sign of strength rather than weakness.

Yeah, he's been a douche and upset a few influential players, but deep down what harm has he really done?

It looks like he's already taken McFate's wise advice and changed his name. Let him be and see what happens. No lynch mob please.

Yah you're right Ronnie. In the grand scheme of things he's done nothing that is that big of a deal.

And after his very first apology thread I responded to it and wished him well. On his second one I ignored him. On his third one I ignored him. Any other thread he's made I've ignored it. What is this Moraf your fourth or fifth apology with empty promises? Yah, no pattern here folks...

You make this thread, change your name and then carry on being a tool bag. I don't really care; you're not a threat to me and never have been. Do what you like I guess. I'm not going to acknowledge your presence anymore after I hit the submit button.

Really, to those that like to say "cut this guy a break"...rather than preach about the importance of second chances and forgiveness and any other anti bullying baloney that you can come up with I think the real thing to preach is the importance of ignoring this clown. We have all given chances to this guy. It's time to just pretend he's not here. Won't be a problem for me from now on.

And Moraf...you mentioned about a guy named Juan...not me. I just put 2 and 2 together after running into you a few times yesterday. You spoke perfect English. And played the same style. Not too hard to figure it out.

And there it is, the last post by Comet on a Moraf21 thread.

[*M]RAPTOR wrote:

T-REX wrote: THE KID SOUNDS SINCERELY REGRETFULL OF HIS CRIMES. I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM ONE LAST CHANCE. IF HE FAILS AGAIN THEN WE HAND DOWN THE DEATH PENALTY ON HIM I THINK ITS A FAIR DEAL. RIGHT MORAF21. PERSONALLY I HAVE NEVER HAD TROUBLE WITH MORAF21 BEEN IN FEW GAMES WITH HIM.

Your a good dino rex, I mean that. Chances are you have had issues with this tool only you wouldn't know due to his coweredly numerous name changes and additional accounts. Eagle has the right idea same with comet.
WarEagle my good friend has a good piont only that it's hypothetical. Cause although he himself has seemingly tried to reform he is still the hot head that can't seem to stay out of trouble. I love ya war, I do. You know I'm speaking the facts. Of course war is his own worst enemy and just has a hard time leaving others opinions that differ from his as nothing more then just that personal opinions.
This douche is exactly what comet has described "a attention whore" that has no maral conviction as to Fairplay and spotsmanship. He is probably P U T O and a number of other lower then whale shit players we see in game.....

If he and Wilbur are different people they most certainly are cut of the same cloth.



I say to the galloes with the douche bag terd!!!

Well said Brother Raptor. And to those who don't have "experience with him" you couldn't possibly fathom what everyone is talking about. Do a forum search for his name. As for Sincerity I say prove it. McFate provided a solution, try that.

MERFYNMERN wrote: Alright ill put it this way. Moraf21 the people who still cant stand you are stubborn old brutes who will never change their mind because forgiveness isnt in their realm of abilities... You made many mistakes, and seem very sincere in your apology, although ive never been in a match with you, i will say one thing... You have my full respect sir, for coming out about your crimes, knowing that your apology would get shot down by so many and maybe accepted by only 2 or 3 and that shows maturity, facing your issues head on with no fear of rejection... I respect you for this and would be honored to fly with you sometime... That being said the real problem here is all you whom have looked at this as a joke. the young man is obviously tired of committing these offenses and is finally allowing himself to apologize fully and sincerely for them. Like i said i have had no experience with him at all, but i say let him stay and regain the trust of everyone...

This is your first sport of him, no doubt you've missed the plethora of same apologies from the same player.... yes we ar old stubborn unwilling bastards.... you would be a 21s pigeon and a damn fool to side with this tool and throw us old men to the curb due to our intolerance of such poor form.
Course you haven't had him mimick you name or squad and fly around doing his very best to make you look as pathetic and unsportsmanlike as he is....
Your naive, and know not of what or whom you speak. To put this little puke up on a soapbox and praise his willNess to make you a fool, which I assure you he will. An thumb your fingers at us, the stubborn unforgiving, is to same as to place your self next to this idiot at the galloes.....

Shame shame, fool me once damn you.....

The fact of the matter is this, what moraf has done is not innocent in fact I'd consider it more along the lines of harassment. I mean, we all love the game but why should we put up with moraf harassing us? It's not the fact that "it's just a game" but let's face it, the virtual world is still a world in which people are involved and effected everyday by social contact and events. We've given this dude enough chances to where I'd just feel like a fool if another one was to be given. I've been through hell with you people and fought to stay where I'm at. What this guy has done and all the offensives he accounts for is recording and out of this world. Do I think moraf should be given another chance? I say no. If we keep giving him chances what is he gonna learn for all this? That we're all just fools? I hate to be cold hearted, but I spit the truth and sometimes the truth burns like fire. I think it'd be best if we just get rid of this guy once and for all. I think it'll benefit all of us here and moraf21 if he learns anything from it. Maybe by the grace of God he'll make this easy for us and pull his head out his ass and we can go on.

What could I possibly add to thát?

But since I gone through all the trouble of finding out how Moraf 21 is stuck in a loop here, I'll post this anyway:

Funny how comments from the past on your behaviour can simply be copy-pasted.










But you already knew that, I bet:

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