We all know Victor Ree's style of dropping in every game. Had a btc game and he was up to his same old style. Dropping and trying to set up to bomb the carrier. I give props to my team as he was never able to lay one shell on our carrier.

I never said one word about his choice of play. In fact one of their other players dropped at least one bomb the whole game.

So what did I do? Took action!

Held my bombs until facing their droppers and dealt with them. To finish the game I went for the high sneak. One bomb was all that was needed and game over.

Best part of this game is that Victor Ree actually threw out the comment "weak" about my tactic. I nearly peed myself coming from him.

Moral of this story is that I will play as fair as the come and everyone knows this about me. Choose to play how you want, choose any so called tactic you wish, but be ready to expect anything from me then. Choice is yours.

Lame comments like "weak" when that is all you do the whole game is more than welcomed on my part. Just shows how "weak" you really are.

After your previous lament, I had decided to always play by the kiddie pool rules when I see you in game, ya know not to piss you off or anything. A few others have made my list for that consideration too but you go posting like this about games that actually seem interesting I may change my mind.

I have the 2 bomb upgrade on one side but not all others. I wish I had full upgrades before getting 2 bomb, so I always shed one when playing that side.I will only carry 1 until I get all other upgrades.

[NLR] McFate wrote: After your previous lament, I had decided to always play by the kiddie pool rules when I see you in game, ya know not to piss you off or anything. A few others have made my list for that consideration too but you go posting like this about games that actually seem interesting I may change my mind.

Play by the kiddie pool if you wish. I hear they are full of piss anyway.

Like I said, I prefer playing by certain standards. It's a preference and not one that all may agree on which is fine.

In fact I even welcome those to do as they wish. That gives me the opportunity to do the same. See I have a certain respect for my fellow pilots here not to take advantage of certain situations that are available to all. I will not however just sit back and watch the reds do as they wish without using my own tactics.

I went head up with you dropping, one bomb from what it appeared, at times it was two. I know for a fact you didn't hear a peep out of me. Instead I also matched your game play and I recall did quite well.

Save the smart aleck remarks for the children at the kiddie pool for when you go there. Maybe you will impress them with your vocabulary.

If you're a good little boy I may even buy you a rubber ducky.

[NLR]Jacob10000 wrote: I have the 2 bomb upgrade on one side but not all others. I wish I had full upgrades before getting 2 bomb, so I always shed one when playing that side.I will only carry 1 until I get all other upgrades.

Hey Jacob

Seen your name around a lot and it's been a pleasure flying with you in recent games. When it came to me to upgrade my planes I chose to get 2 bombs before taking out my tier 7s so noone would think that I was a dropper. That was my choice because I like playing with both bombs attached unless the situation calls for them to go.

In the game the I was referring to, the other red, not Victor was playing with one bomb only. I never said one word about his choice. When he started his spiral approach towards me I dropped both my bombs and took him down. The first words out of his mouth was "did you drop both bombs?"

Heck yeah I did and always will against those who carry one. They try to get the upper hand by going with one so let them see what it's like to have the disadvantage. Most of them get real mad about that. I LOVE IT!

BTW...every game that you and I played in was quite the match. I have always enjoyed the comments that we pass at each other. You are a solid guy and pilot.

Put away the bluster if you're interested in a real conversation. I'm not here to argue. I suppose me calling it "the kiddie pool" irks you? It's not any worse than your "cheap players" shtick. Lol, it's like how one side is "pro-choice" the other "Pro-life" where they would just assume call each other "Pro-death" and "Anti-choice".

Yeah, in that game the other night you did great. You guys really killed us. I really did just stick with your rules by your description of what you consider an honorable game. I did drop one of my bombs after you made a successful bombing run but soon realized that it wasn't necessary since you were going to just cut and return to base anyway...the honorable thing to do. I got shot down going head to head against you guys and you finished it off. Yawn.

It would have been a lot more fun to work it a bit, you know get your blood flowing. Like you were talking about in your description of the game on the first post. Take a look at what you wrote after:

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote: In fact I even welcome those to do as they wish. That gives me the opportunity to do the same. ...

...When it came to me to upgrade my planes I chose to get 2 bombs before taking out my tier 7s so noone would think that I was a dropper...

...Heck yeah I did and always will against those who carry one. They try to get the upper hand by going with one so let them see what it's like to have the disadvantage. Most of them get real mad about that. I LOVE IT!...

That is some repressed closet fetish s--- right there. Dude. It's okay. You can play that way if you want. I promise it won't make you go blind.


Up the middle is just so "missionary". No doubt about, it's clean and enjoyable, the pillow talk is golden for having a great hart to hart, but sometimes shouldn't you just let go? Who cares if the neighbors hear? Put the game into the stereo system and crank it!

Some how "missionary" is just the "proper" way. It's like how you allow yourself to picture your parents bringing you into the world... you know they had to have done it but you don't want to know the details. I'm sure my kids will want to believe the same, but truth be known...lol! Best game I ever played with my son was mostly just him and me against 5-6 reds. I dropped and fought while he snuck and bombed. We won. That is THE one I will never forget.

Being outnumbered is great. I admit that I'm not very good when I play head on. Oh well. I'll play the way you have asked when I see you in game. Maybe not if you spawn in while a good one is underway. There really are many "fellow pilots" who like a good dirty game. You sure aren't disrespecting me if you put up a fight like your BTC game above. That's cool that you took action instead of lambasting for the whole game, and then he had the nerve to call you "weak". Hmm. How did you feel about that? Was it just a little over the top? Was he being an ass by making that comment? Do you like to fight off the asses in the game? I first got the bug for it by going after droppers! I would engage them and keep them busy while my bombers would push on through, sometimes I'd drop sometimes not. It's funny people think I'm a big dropper but truth be known I rarely do unless it's one of those reasons you would probably list as acceptable. It's fun when blues are willing to plan with team chat but with so many ashamed to deviate from missionary it often falls flat, deflated and flaccid.

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote: Like I said, I prefer playing by certain standards. It's a preference and not one that all may agree on which is fine...

... See I have a certain respect for my fellow pilots...

It's okay. It is respectful to many of your "fellow pilots" to play "dirty". Don't worry, your mom isn't watching, you can still get plenty of sleep before you gotta get up for work. Longrifle was talking about making a villain squad if squad wars ever happens. "The Lowly Rogues" lol. Maybe it could be a secret squad for all of the closet-wannabe-dirty players who just can't go out in public like that.

Argue and fight if you want. Heck get demented. If you're going to write smack I'm going to return it. If you have something to say, say it. If you dredge deep enough there may be a flash of gold in the pan.

Heff006 wrote: Droppers should be flogged at dawn

Oh, kinky!

Heff006 wrote: Droppers should be flogged at dawn

Just like we do when you try to bomb out innocent hangers?
Try it. We will handover your arse to you before you know we dropped and then try to hide it in tears instead of going for the whip.

Hey S99

We both respect eachother's game and know we are always in for a good one. I can say that we are both quality players and it shows in the game.

I can tell immediately when a player has dropped. Once in a blue moon it may take me one run to make sure. Depends on who's in the game and the situation that will determine in I will drop as well. See the thing with me is that I don't mind getting killed or losing the game. So in the game that I don't drop to match you I have my reasons for it. In fact me dropping my bombs in the game isn't fun at all. It may be just a little when engaging in a turn fight against another dropper but when I kill that player it's boring after that.

Then what am I to do go around killing everyone else when I am flying twice as fast as them? It's like a tier 7 going against a stater plane and that's not fun for me. Too easy. In fact when I kill the other dropper I often will not kill the other players for that reason unless it happens by the enemy hangers and I need to assist my teammates in bombing. Even then I throttle down to take away my advantage.

That's just me and my style of play. Don't get me wrong though. When I am up against a player who deserves a beat down I will be very happy to do just that.

Gunnz You are a great friend!

Personally I wish I had never bothered to pay the coins for the 2nd bomb upgrade.. about the only time I carry 2 is when I sneak... why bother to sneak if you're not going to take full advantage of it right?

I mainly only enter bombing missions if there is a Lafayette pilot as blue when I spawn in.. mostly.

McFate

You don't have to play by my standards when you are up against me. I will just simply handle it the way I always do. It's hysterical to me that when I choose to match someone else's game play or take it a step further and get the best of them, they are usually the first ones to say something about it or simply leave the game.

Most players that choose to use any available tactic is doing so to get the advantage over the other players. That doesn't impress me at all. Wow so someone can go around killing the other players when they have no bombs. That's the same thrill as me killing a noob in a starter plane. Or even better, one can tank glitch right next to the hangers and take them out. How lame is that.

What impresses me is a player being able to be the better player and out play me, not how can they just get better results by doing as they please. They are out to simply to get the upper hand on the others and that is not what I am about. My stats and winning a game is not that important to me.

If I chose to use any available tactic that is available in the game, I would be a fierce player as would most quality players out there. That is exactly why we don't do it. It's too easy. You speak of boring? Well that is very boring to me.

Actually I know for a fact that many of your squad mates play by the exact same standards that I do. They are great players and I have much respect for them. I know they are against some called tactics as am I. Ohhh and when we are teammates in a game against those tactical players, we do talk about it and handle situation accordingly. Most of the times it's a success too.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAY HERE BELOW....
as I have always said, I have my opinion of how to play the game and I know others have theirs. We may not all see eye to eye and that is okay. I never have whined, complained, or even argued about another's choice in game play. It is usually them that do when I choose to do the same. I have many times called them out and even thrown out a choice word at them for doing so though. Example is one of my teammates using the tank glitch when it was a 3 vs 1 in our favor. That's just low. I don't need to win games like that. I find no pleasure in it.

It's when these players can't handle the same so called tactics being used against them that I find amuzing. I can't even comprehend that. Those are the players I have absolutely no respect at all for.

So please use whatever tactic you wish in a game against me. You will not offend me in any way, I promise. Maybe you will get the upper hand and maybe you won't. I am not here to stop you from enjoying doing what you do. It will just open the doors for me to do the same without someone's permission. I am not afraid of doing so. I just don't because those choices simply make the game too easy.

I found no offense to Victor's "weak" comment. It was funny to me. I even caught him in a game later on and he even took back that comment after I shot him up a few times. He ended up leaving that game too when one of Dogfight's best players entered the game on his side and had some choice words about everyone dogfighting in a btb game. Ohhh he was one of your squad mates too.

Like you said in your other post, we can go back and forth with this forever so let's not. My thread was simply stating how it was amuzing to me that a dropper had anything to say about a sneak.

***I just edited this note***
Why is it that when anyone else posts to my threads both their and my reply are often quick and simple. They stay on the topic and voice their opinions as do I without making a big debate about it.

I love hearing what you have to say. I mean that. I even value some of your opinions. Please do me a favor as will I. Let's just focus of stating things simply without having to discuss it all. It's way too time consuming.

con estilo wrote: Gunnz You are a great friend!

Estilo

Thank you for the kind words. You are one of those players that I look foward to seeing in a game.

Not only are you a great friend, you have become like a hermano to me.

ZebraUp wrote: Personally I wish I had never bothered to pay the coins for the 2nd bomb upgrade.. about the only time I carry 2 is when I sneak... why bother to sneak if you're not going to take full advantage of it right?

I mainly only enter bombing missions if there is a Lafayette pilot as blue when I spawn in.. mostly.

Hey Zebra

We all know that you like playing the mission games and why shouldn't you. You are probably the best turn fighter in the game.

We have not had many games with each other and from I can recall I don't think I ever seen you in a bombing game. I often see that you enter a bombing game then immediately leave because it is one. That is why I respect you. You choose not to play in them bombless.

That is why you truly earn the title of being one of the best in the game.

Gunzz this reminds me of a player I had a game with about tank users check Wolf Packs thread try not to choke on a drink ordo what I did

OK I MUST TAKE VICTORS SIDE HERE
He was taught by moron21 not a good influence and he is leader of WORLD DOMINATION 2 which War Birds is now allies with
I am helping victor turn it into a successful squadron with actual rules.... Thanks for for telling me about the dropping issue next time i see him ill talk to him about it. don't critisize someone if they havent learned what is right and wrong
~war hawk1-5

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote: Hey S99

We both respect eachother's game and know we are always in for a good one. I can say that we are both quality players and it shows in the game.

I can tell immediately when a player has dropped. Once in a blue moon it may take me one run to make sure. Depends on who's in the game and the situation that will determine in I will drop as well. See the thing with me is that I don't mind getting killed or losing the game. So in the game that I don't drop to match you I have my reasons for it. In fact me dropping my bombs in the game isn't fun at all. It may be just a little when engaging in a turn fight against another dropper but when I kill that player it's boring after that.

Then what am I to do go around killing everyone else when I am flying twice as fast as them? It's like a tier 7 going against a stater plane and that's not fun for me. Too easy. In fact when I kill the other dropper I often will not kill the other players for that reason unless it happens by the enemy hangers and I need to assist my teammates in bombing. Even then I throttle down to take away my advantage.

That's just me and my style of play. Don't get me wrong though. When I am up against a player who deserves a beat down I will be very happy to do just that.

Sry D if you were offended by that post!! Just lost my temper to the one who would flogg us at dawn!! Never wanted to offend u..... I am not a always dropper neither a always bomber guy!! But saying to flogg us at dawn is a punishable offence.
He is not gonna get away with it

War Hawk

I hope the squad turns out to be a success. Personally I don't care what tactics they choose to play with. My criticism was for his choice word of "weak" when I went for the sneak against a team of droppers. If someone is going to drop against me then all is fair game the way I see it.

In fact what I found to be even funnier is that when I first entered the later game that Victor was in I immediately noticed he was high on the sneak. Lol. Now that's really funny. Needless to say I took him down and even continued to take him down quite often in that game as he was still dropping. He made the comments of how the game was boring by not dropping. That too was funny to me because he only stated that after a good 30 minutes of play where I was killing him quite often. I think it became boring to him because now I was matching his game play and not allowing him to go around killing planes that were holding bombs.

I did however notice his rank and that he still has a long way to go to learn the game. Heck so do I. I am sure he will be a much improved player in the future. He already shows the skills. What game play he chooses to follow will be up to him and I hope he does well.

S99

LMAO....You didn't offend me at all. I have come to learn your style of play and know that you mix it up. I don't mind that one bit. I even enjoy having you in a game with me. You are a great player and always have some great comments to say throughout the game.

It's always a pleasure to see you in the skies and I hope you never think differently. Well that is unless it's my first game and you are busting me up like it's nothing.

Sorry gunzzz. You're an interesting one. So many raw facets. Since you seem to have relaxed your original stance that there is no place for us cheapsiders, maybe next time we can have a real game. You just go ahead and let me know when you think I've dropped. You claim that you always know, let's see if it's true.

[NLR] McFate wrote: Sorry gunzzz. You're an interesting one. So many raw facets. Since you seem to have relaxed your original stance that there is no place for us cheapsiders, maybe next time we can have a real game. You just go ahead and let me know when you think I've dropped. You claim that you always know, let's see if it's true.

You're nitpicking at way too many details here even after I simply had mentioned to you that this was a thread about an amuzing comment a player made, so I will not be going on any further with this.

If you want some answers from me on other topics either pm me or create a thread on the subject and I will be happy to reply.

ÐélíWølf{WP*} wrote: Gunzz this reminds me of a player I had a game with about tank users check Wolf Packs thread try not to choke on a drink ordo what I did

I read your post in the WP thread. Great story! Gotta love players like that.

But let me get one thing straight here, you fell off the toilet? Lol...I think that had me laughing even harder.

Sneaking and dropping are low down, filthy, rotten to core, miserable refuges of the weak. Unless I'm doing either one or both, then it's solid tactics.

I like to increae the target angle, and often fly out to one side or up a ways to catch a plane in silhouette, and many times opponents think I'm going around. I'm not, I like to hammer it out in the middle. But occasioanlly, after two or three hours and an endless steam of Morafs replacing every departing red, I'll make a high pass or go out wide.

I'll also drop one bomb if there is only one hangar or 10% or less on the carrier, as I don't usually use them against tanks and like the extra speed.

No one can say I'm predictable I'm random in my tactics

Longrifle

Hey bro. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a great post. Everything you said here was on point. All makes sense and without any jibber jabber.

Sneaking is awesome and adds the extra punch the game needs. Even dropping when the occasions calls for is justifiable to me. It's only when the two mentioned tactics are abused do I have a problem with it. Such as when serverly out ranked or outnumbered in a game.

The way I see it is let someone use those tactics against me when I am at a big disadvantage to win the game and can only think, wow, that was low. So who's the real loser?

Now using those tactics to open up a game a bit especially when both sides are stacked with quality players who are capable to defend against them, well that's an action packed game. Key is dropping with discrection and not abusing the advantage that comes with it.

Manospotato

Changing things up is a good way to go. Keeps the enemy on their heels.

Me? I'm very predictable. You will find me flying down the middle. I don't mind getting dirty. That's the player I am. That however doesn't mean I am incapable of mixing it up. I just rather not until the enemy sets me off. When that happens, I know I am unpredictable because I don't even know what I will do until I get the feel for it within the game and react upon it.

I am not always successful in my approaches, but I think I do okay for myself.

Looking foward to seeing you in the sky.

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:
Now using those tactics to open up a game a bit especially when both sides are stacked with quality players who are capable to defend against them, well that's an action packed game. Key is dropping with discrection and not abusing the advantage that comes with it.

Who are you and what did you do to Gunzzz?

[NLR] McFate wrote:

D93 Big Gunzzz wrote:
Now using those tactics to open up a game a bit especially when both sides are stacked with quality players who are capable to defend against them, well that's an action packed game. Key is dropping with discrection and not abusing the advantage that comes with it.

Who are you and what did you do to Gunzzz?

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