And you wonder why he gets bashed...
You get what you give in life, plain and simple. That's human decency. Some people learn that the hard way...that's life.
Don't want people coming down hard on you in public? Don't be an ass in public.
This is the result of somebody not knowing what consequences of actions are. And it's not up to us to parent people.
Lots and lots of decent people here get treated with the upmost of respect...because they conduct themselves with respect.

Maybe this thread is a bit of bullying. Maybe some are too harsh. But maybe the guy that was an asshole to begin with should have just shut up to begin with and maybe none of this would have ever happened...consequences of actions again...

People here have enough human decency. It only gets questioned when the one person without any starts shit.

You get what you give.

That's hellacious..I wouldn't mind that

Husky Dog {WP} wrote: I wanna be Katy Perry's bicycle seat, but I don't see that happening any time soon, either.

MORAF 21 wrote: Bullchit, you always have something bad to say to me in most games whether you are brits or German.
I've read all previous comments. most were pretty funny. Cc I don't care about your rank when I say this but, if your going to lie at least make it believable.

[*M] CC RIDER wrote: Hmmm Luna while I respect your opinion I cant quite come to grips with the fact that you state 1 . I dont quite know what MORAF 21has done but ......so which bit of not knowing about someones disrespect for the people in DF who care about this game and the people who have done the hard yards and earned the respect of many are you struggling to come to grips with . 2 Nobody in the MISFITS are speaking out of turn or without having endured a barage of MORAF 21s lack of respect for the people who have tried in vain to educate him about the protocal of this game . HEROICS was quite entiled to his opinion as everybody else . If you think it is so easy to give him a chance then please do . BLUE FIGHTER is a great squad leader and contributor to this world of DF and I respect him in so many ways . If NRL can do what we feel that we will be wasting our time trying to do then you have my blessing . No disrespect to you either LUNA but I have remained silent in many of MORAF 21s games just because I am apalled by his behavior and dont wish to give him attention he dosnt deserve . Clearly you and HEROICS have given him that window . Sorry if I have offended anyone but a shovel is a shovel .

Ive been reading this and ive chisen to stay silent about this issue (which that in itself is unusual for me) the only thing im going to say (in public) is that....who among the two of you is more credible..the guy who has been banned twice (that ik of) and still irritates some people or the MORAF from arguably the best squad and one of the best and most respected players in this game....thats all im gonna say...criticize me as you please...I couldnt care less

That's funny pagan the rapists having feeling and the others you listed.I would say if they had feelings they wouldn't do what they do..lol..TyMean Fokker P.s I guess they do have feelings for thereselves and no one else..lol

[M]Pagan wrote:

111th| Heroicz wrote: Wait a minute Gentlemen, although kinda funny, if not careful, couldn't this be a form of online bullying ? I mean two wrongs doesn't make things right ? right ? Are we trying to belittle 1's self-esteem ? even if it's MORAF21.. are we setting a Gud example by retaliating in such a manner for what ever he did or done in the previous ? just say'n doe buds.. would hate to hear of anything happening to any of DF's pilots due to overly aggressive behavior ? just something to think about Gentlemen ? Please don't stereo typically set out to bash me for stating so ? just trying to be friendly ?

Yeah and while we are at it , can we please stop criticising the Muslim terrorists and the paedophiles and the drunk drivers and all the murderers and rapists and all the other scumbags in the world......after all they all have feelings too...and we wouldn't want to upset anyone would we!!!!

Brandwolf {WP} wrote:

MORAF 21 wrote: Bullchit, you always have something bad to say to me in most games whether you are brits or German.
I've read all previous comments. most were pretty funny. Cc I don't care about your rank when I say this but, if your going to lie at least make it believable.

[*M] CC RIDER wrote: Hmmm Luna while I respect your opinion I cant quite come to grips with the fact that you state 1 . I dont quite know what MORAF 21has done but ......so which bit of not knowing about someones disrespect for the people in DF who care about this game and the people who have done the hard yards and earned the respect of many are you struggling to come to grips with . 2 Nobody in the MISFITS are speaking out of turn or without having endured a barage of MORAF 21s lack of respect for the people who have tried in vain to educate him about the protocal of this game . HEROICS was quite entiled to his opinion as everybody else . If you think it is so easy to give him a chance then please do . BLUE FIGHTER is a great squad leader and contributor to this world of DF and I respect him in so many ways . If NRL can do what we feel that we will be wasting our time trying to do then you have my blessing . No disrespect to you either LUNA but I have remained silent in many of MORAF 21s games just because I am apalled by his behavior and dont wish to give him attention he dosnt deserve . Clearly you and HEROICS have given him that window . Sorry if I have offended anyone but a shovel is a shovel .

Ive been reading this and ive chisen to stay silent about this issue (which that in itself is unusual for me) the only thing im going to say (in public) is that....who among the two of you is more credible..the guy who has been banned twice (that ik of) and still irritates some people or the MORAF from arguably the best squad and one of the best and most respected players in this game....thats all im gonna say...criticize me as you please...I couldnt care less

Brand well said also as comet said actions have consequences

Let me brandish the actions of MORAN 21 stealing a squad and laughing about it me and a few others offered to set up a squad for the person who's squad was stolen but zup fixed the issue banned
Trying to start a war and with Wolf Pack and saying Misfits and many well named squads would back him
Threating people in game and swearing stealing respected names the Second ban to his name

Remember Actions speak louder than words respect costs nothing I can guarantee that someone like that in this day and age would end up in the worst possible scenario I am not going to say it cause of stating a real life fact I would put this person in tears and probably end up banned but you hear about it in the news every day lets just leave it at that but he will end up on the wrong side of someone and he be in major trouble

[M]Comet wrote: And you wonder why he gets bashed...
You get what you give in life, plain and simple. That's human decency. Some people learn that the hard way...that's life.
Don't want people coming down hard on you in public? Don't be an ass in public.
This is the result of somebody not knowing what consequences of actions are. And it's not up to us to parent people.
Lots and lots of decent people here get treated with the upmost of respect...because they conduct themselves with respect.

Maybe this thread is a bit of bullying. Maybe some are too harsh. But maybe the guy that was an asshole to begin with should have just shut up to begin with and maybe none of this would have ever happened...consequences of actions again...

People here have enough human decency. It only gets questioned when the one person without any starts shit.

You get what you give.

Job 4:8 "As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same"

[NLR] Luna wrote:

[M]Pagan wrote:

111th| Heroicz wrote: Wait a minute Gentlemen, although kinda funny, if not careful, couldn't this be a form of online bullying ? I mean two wrongs doesn't make things right ? right ? Are we trying to belittle 1's self-esteem ? even if it's MORAF21.. are we setting a Gud example by retaliating in such a manner for what ever he did or done in the previous ? just say'n doe buds.. would hate to hear of anything happening to any of DF's pilots due to overly aggressive behavior ? just something to think about Gentlemen ? Please don't stereo typically set out to bash me for stating so ? just trying to be friendly ?

Yeah and while we are at it , can we please stop criticising the Muslim terrorists and the paedophiles and the drunk drivers and all the murderers and rapists and all the other scumbags in the world......after all they all have feelings too...and we wouldn't want to upset anyone would we!!!!

I agree with Heroicz. They've got a point.

I don't know exactly what MORAF 21 has done in the past; likely something that's upset the community repeatedly... but I seriously doubt it's on par with terrorism, pedophilia, addiction, abuse, or murder. Don't compare these real-life monsters to the antics of a single stranger on the Internet.

Regardless of what MORAF 21 has done and despite however outrageous this particular request was, I don't think it warranted such a one-sided response. A simple "No" would have sufficed, yes? Sarcasm does not help with anything except to show how bitter one is.

I agree that we shouldn't coddle and give people chances when they deserve none. What we also shouldn't be doing is stoop down a level by responding with equal inconsideration. Rousseau said, "Insults are the arguments employed by those in the wrong."

I'm glad at least one other person gets this, because I was surprised at the bandwagon bashing I saw when I read this thread. I am not standing up for MORAF 21, but I'm not about to agree with the community response, either.

If you wish to criticize me like what was done to Heroicz, fine, but at least play the devil's advocate. Like it's been said, "It's just something to think about, gentlemen."

~Luna

*throws popcorn* boooooooooo

Guess the part I'm missing here is where Heroicz was criticized. Some people put a great deal of effort to bring positive aspects to this game, just to have a handful rain constant negativity down on their efforts. Then there is the small percentage that pushes that envelope beyond the extreme. "You reap what you sow" to echo others.

This seems to be yet another case of where the intent to bring negativity and drama to satisfy one's need for such has succeeded.

I like the time when he told me he hadn't team killed or bombed his own hanger in months, when he had just done it the day before to a fellow GI. His response to that was "it was an accident". Ok, bombing one hanger could be an accident, but two? I think not.

Or the time he said he was a changed man, but then went and tank spawn killed Zebra, which was captured in a screen shot. So much for changing.

He's not loyal, he jumps from squad to squad, even ones he has created, inducted himself into his own hall of fame, created a squad to teach noobs how to play (I guess teaching them how to team kill, bomb their own hangers, spawn kill, and other ways to play dirty), destroyed a squad from inside and laughing about it, started a war with the Wolf Pack and claimed he was going to get in and destroy them from the inside too, usually changes names to hide, and now tries to "act" like he's changed but quickly goes back to dirty play.

Oh and when he tries to get his way, he plows his nose all the way into the brown highway.

[EDIT]
Oh I see some screen shots on the misfit thread about how he changed his name to [M]oraf21 and was asked to get rid of the [], but he said "make me". hmmm real class act with him, NOT!

MORAF 21 wrote: Hey, I wanna be a misfit and I've had two Recommendations from [M]! as well as [M]R.

Fellow Brothers [M]isfits.... Please accept him before he declares another WAR against Your Squad, like he did to the Wolf Pack's....:-0

MORAF 21 wrote: Hey, I wanna be a misfit and I've had two Recommendations from [M]! as well as [M]R.

I needed a good laugh today thank you. Now go take a long walk on a short bridge

I won't probably be saying this much but, I apologize Guys. Not for what I said, but for not keeping up with the active conversation between u two before the statement which I made, thus leaving me unfamiliar with too much lack of knowledge to this post. In other words, Not pnly have I read u guys recent return post of comments which clears up a lot of things with what MORAF is being charged with but I also had a chance to witness his shenanigans live on WC Today ? Just too hilarious. He pop in on world chat with his name spelt lke thus, " [M]ORAF 21 ", Lol this guy Mannn ! But I forget which 1, but 1 of ur fellow [M]isfits quickly asked MORAF 21 to release the M from the brackets from his name. not even minutes later MORAF 21 appeared back on WC with the matter resolved ? Luckily he must of already been wear u guy's [M] for 24 hours exactly, so he was able to edit his name back or with out the M in brackets ? Glad to see the situation defused peacefully & surprisingly I were actually there to witness.. but lke I said, out of MORAF 21's own mouth, he thinks all this on this thread & posts about him are funny ? I'm still not going to single MORAF 21 out for the treason.. but it seems that he lkes the attention that u guys seemingly [M]s are giving him & all who opposes him ? So I'm pulling out.. never were really in for that matter but u guys kinda feel what I were getting @, but ur point made as well. I already spoken to Mcfate to give Luna the regards. oh.. & regardless what Luna says.. she is The beautiful Misses of DogFight & respected. It should be, yes Luna.. no Luna.. o.k. Luna.. but never no disrespect to The Beautiful Ms/ Luna of [NLR] just sum more kind words of advice.. o.k. Guys.. see u in the Air.. Heroicz is signing out of this thread. Gud day Sirs.

Hey can I be a [M]isfit too?
Oh! That's right I already am a [M]isfit.. I should go now..

Wow!

What got you guys and galls so talkative?

Rudolf Rednose wrote: Wow!

What got you guys and galls so talkative?

I'm pretty sure it was the remark about being Katy Perry's bicycle seat.

Husky Dog {WP} wrote:

Rudolf Rednose wrote: Wow!

What got you guys and galls so talkative?

I'm pretty sure it was the remark about being Katy Perry's bicycle seat.

How Irony can this post get ! Won't believe this, but I use to date her last fall !?? Just look @ this pic I have of her signing me a copy of her autograph ?? I think we had just got back from a HOT NIGHT OUT..
WE might actually had been going out for dinner & dancing, I forget, its been awhile ?

111th| Heroicz wrote:

Husky Dog {WP} wrote:

Rudolf Rednose wrote: Wow!

What got you guys and galls so talkative?

I'm pretty sure it was the remark about being Katy Perry's bicycle seat.

How Irony can this post get ! Won't believe this, but I use to date her last fall !?? Just look @ this pic I have of her signing me a copy of her autograph ?? I think we had just got back from a HOT NIGHT OUT..
WE might actually had been going out for dinner & dancing, I forget, its been awhile ?

Davy says, did you forget to take your Prozac tonight. Your dreaming lol

l o l.. U started Davy, U & TXLAWMAN with that famous but familiar post ! U know what I'm talking about ?

Solo wrote:

MORAF 21 wrote: Hey, I wanna be a misfit and I've had two Recommendations from [M]! as well as [M]R.

Fellow Brothers [M]isfits.... Please accept him before he declares another WAR against Your Squad, like he did to the Wolf Pack's....:-0

Him declare war on the Misfits? He would have an easier go at pissing up a rope. Better pilots then him have come after us. He would be better suited to ride off into the sunset. We have around 80 pilots in our squad, I would put anyone of them against him. He is a small and insignificant bug. If he is lucky, I might let him wash my windshield.

What? A war on misfits? I better get practicing my skills...girls like guys who have great skills...like numbchucks (Napoleon dynamite)

Not to stir the pot here. Seems like a Moderator could really clean this Moran 21 ugliness up with a quick strategically placed thumb....... I miss them, some days more then others, but I really do.



I don't believe anyone here is doing an thing wrong or in humanely unjust. It seems to me that the tool enjoys it and if tool didn't one would think he would be more thoughtful in regards to what he posted.... I'm just saying. It's a testosterone game by dedign....


Wait!!! That could be taken so far out of context and I just want to say that's not what I ment about the testosterone part...

I have more chances of dating Emma Watson than 21 becoming a Misfit...

[*M]RAPTOR wrote: Not to stir the pot here. Seems like a Moderator could really clean this Moran 21 ugliness up with a quick strategically placed thumb....... I miss them, some days more then others, but I really do.



I don't believe anyone here is doing an thing wrong or in humanely unjust. It seems to me that the tool enjoys it and if tool didn't one would think he would be more thoughtful in regards to what he posted.... I'm just saying. It's a testosterone game by dedign....


Wait!!! That could be taken so far out of context and I just want to say that's not what I ment about the testosterone part...

Lmao Rap maybe [M]! And [M]r should say if they recommended him I bet 10grand they will say they didn't So 21 have you got that kind of money? I will take a bank cheque

S99 wrote:

[M]Pagan wrote:

111th| Heroicz wrote: Wait a minute Gentlemen, although kinda funny, if not careful, couldn't this be a form of online bullying ? I mean two wrongs doesn't make things right ? right ? Are we trying to belittle 1's self-esteem ? even if it's MORAF21.. are we setting a Gud example by retaliating in such a manner for what ever he did or done in the previous ? just say'n doe buds.. would hate to hear of anything happening to any of DF's pilots due to overly aggressive behavior ? just something to think about Gentlemen ? Please don't stereo typically set out to bash me for stating so ? just trying to be friendly ?

Yeah and while we are at it , can we please stop criticising the Muslim terrorists and the paedophiles and the drunk drivers and all the murderers and rapists and all the other scumbags in the world......after all they all have feelings too...and we wouldn't want to upset anyone would we!!!!

mind it pagan ... u r bullying moraf here aand i dont have a problem!! how do u bring the word 'MUSLIM TERRORIST'?? are u making this game communal?? u maybe be a good pilot pagan but u lacks social responsibility..... And if this is a communal game (just like u wanna say) i shall stop playing it again!! Better u mind what u r saying Pagan. Its not cool!!

Would it be better if he said Japanese Terrorist? Or Canadian Terrorist? He was not downing Muslims, It just so happens that Isis have been in the news lately. Just watch out for Amish Mafia.

S99 wrote:

[M]Pagan wrote:

111th| Heroicz wrote: Wait a minute Gentlemen, although kinda funny, if not careful, couldn't this be a form of online bullying ? I mean two wrongs doesn't make things right ? right ? Are we trying to belittle 1's self-esteem ? even if it's MORAF21.. are we setting a Gud example by retaliating in such a manner for what ever he did or done in the previous ? just say'n doe buds.. would hate to hear of anything happening to any of DF's pilots due to overly aggressive behavior ? just something to think about Gentlemen ? Please don't stereo typically set out to bash me for stating so ? just trying to be friendly ?

Yeah and while we are at it , can we please stop criticising the Muslim terrorists and the paedophiles and the drunk drivers and all the murderers and rapists and all the other scumbags in the world......after all they all have feelings too...and we wouldn't want to upset anyone would we!!!!

mind it pagan ... u r bullying moraf here aand i dont have a problem!! how do u bring the word 'MUSLIM TERRORIST'?? are u making this game communal?? u maybe be a good pilot pagan but u lacks social responsibility..... And if this is a communal game (just like u wanna say) i shall stop playing it again!! Better u mind what u r saying Pagan. Its not cool!!

I'm not sure what was wrong with what Pagan said...at least it was legible.

That's... That's really not funny, Hulk.

The Amish Mafia came into my house, drank all of my beer and kicked my dog. He still trembles at the sight of a beard. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't make light of them.

S99 wrote:

[M]Pagan wrote:

111th| Heroicz wrote: Wait a minute Gentlemen, although kinda funny, if not careful, couldn't this be a form of online bullying ? I mean two wrongs doesn't make things right ? right ? Are we trying to belittle 1's self-esteem ? even if it's MORAF21.. are we setting a Gud example by retaliating in such a manner for what ever he did or done in the previous ? just say'n doe buds.. would hate to hear of anything happening to any of DF's pilots due to overly aggressive behavior ? just something to think about Gentlemen ? Please don't stereo typically set out to bash me for stating so ? just trying to be friendly ?

Yeah and while we are at it , can we please stop criticising the Muslim terrorists and the paedophiles and the drunk drivers and all the murderers and rapists and all the other scumbags in the world......after all they all have feelings too...and we wouldn't want to upset anyone would we!!!!

mind it pagan ... u r bullying moraf here aand i dont have a problem!! how do u bring the word 'MUSLIM TERRORIST'?? are u making this game communal?? u maybe be a good pilot pagan but u lacks social responsibility..... And if this is a communal game (just like u wanna say) i shall stop playing it again!! Better u mind what u r saying Pagan. Its not cool!!

Sorry if I offended your sensibilities s99 I was mearly using the term "Muslim terrorist" as a generalisation . In no way did I mean to imply that all Muslims are terrorists. Before you start an augument on Moraf's behalf perhaps you should try to get some understanding of what he has been doing. Please be careful what you write because some could see what you have said as threatening and that's not showing social respondsiblity.
Perhaps if you read and understood what was written and not take parts of it out of context you might gleen some understanding of the underlying social comment that I was so ineloquently trying to make.

My grandparents came from Germany, should I be offended when someone speaks bad of Nazi's? No. Not all Germans were Nazi's, just as not all Muslims are Terrorists. The Doctor my wife works for and his wife are Muslim. Nicest people you will ever meet, he cares about people not money (unlike a lot of doctors). He does a ton of pro bono (free) procedures, makes house calls, things you don't here of anymore. His family has been to my house, and mine to his. I would never think of him as a terrorist. If every time you here terrorist, your blood pressure goes up, your skin is too thin. Lock yourself in your room and stay away from the tv and Internet.

[*M]VonHuLK wrote: My grandparents came from Germany, should I be offended when someone speaks bad of Nazi's? No. Not all Germans were Nazi's, just as not all Muslims are Terrorists. The Doctor my wife works for and his wife are Muslim. Nicest people you will ever meet, he cares about people not money (unlike a lot of doctors). He does a ton of pro bono (free) procedures, makes house calls, things you don't here of anymore. His family has been to my house, and mine to his. I would never think of him as a terrorist. If every time you here terrorist, your blood pressure goes up, your skin is too thin. Lock yourself in your room and stay away from the tv and Internet.

ughh... forget it Sir Hulk.... i said bcz i thought that word is being communal... i didnt say anything i take my words back!!

S99 wrote:

[*M]VonHuLK wrote: My grandparents came from Germany, should I be offended when someone speaks bad of Nazi's? No. Not all Germans were Nazi's, just as not all Muslims are Terrorists. The Doctor my wife works for and his wife are Muslim. Nicest people you will ever meet, he cares about people not money (unlike a lot of doctors). He does a ton of pro bono (free) procedures, makes house calls, things you don't here of anymore. His family has been to my house, and mine to his. I would never think of him as a terrorist. If every time you here terrorist, your blood pressure goes up, your skin is too thin. Lock yourself in your room and stay away from the tv and Internet.

ughh... forget it Sir Hulk.... i said bcz i thought that word is being communal... i didnt say anything i take my words back!!

Then perhaps you should edit them