DDtd|Mr.Brandman wrote:

[M]Comet wrote: Couldn't help but notice at least 20 non subscribers coming up with ideas for a new game...I know some are waiting to renew their subscription once this version works better... Not trying to stir things up (ok maybe I am) but how do you improve a product when so many are playing for free? You need revenue to make it better. It's time to start charging to play. Those of us that do pay did it to support the developer. If we're not seeing the results why continue? Furthermore if everyone said screw it I'll wait 7 minutes would Dogfight even be around anymore?

I'm all in for DF Elite. And I'll gladly look at paying for it once the original is working better. Give me a good product and it's easy to be loyal and supportive. Right now it's very frustrating.

Ok. So abouttp me putting in my input, im too youbg to own a credit card, I have no job nor even a drivers license. If I couod I would pay in a heartbeat. This game is well worth the $2 it costs. Take thst I to consideration when you start calling people out about not subscribing plz

Thanks

Nothing personal Brand, you're one of the most respectful (and respected) young players out there, and I did take that into consideration. I know there are a lot of young players that don't have income. But there's a business aspect of this too. You want a product you pay for it. You don't have the money? Guess what, you don't get the product. It's just how it is.

There are ways to pay without a credit card. There are google play cards, visa paypower, Microsoft cards, on and on. If you're addicted and dedicated you will find a way.

The little revenue that does get generated here comes from the subscribers...maybe watching the ads generate some too, I'm not too sure. But when the rest of us pay to support everyone and nothing improves...well then as a consumer I have a decision to make. Is this worth my time and money? And let's face it, some of the most popular and long term players that love this game aren't making the appearances that they once were. Haven't seen guys like Hulk or Davy on here in days. What's that tell you? We are getting frustrated with what's going on here.

Love this game just as much as the next person but what am I paying for? And like I said, until this game works better I'm not the slightest bit interested in DF2. And I'm willing to bet a lot of others feel the same way.

Customizable paint schemes?

I think it should say who you are being team killed my shown on the screen!

HOVERCRAFT.
being able to get in a hovercraft after chuting and able to cross land and water with a mounted machine gun like on planes.

I would like to see 3D DF !!!!

I'd buy special goggles to play this game in 3D... Maybe put a fan in front to feel wind.

Change plane.
Create a designated hangar for all games where you land and enter and select one of your other planes and also adjust your sensitivity levels too.
Maybe limit this feature to once per game.

no carry over in coins, some people have millions and im stuck with 27k!

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Rudolf Rednose wrote:
So a good thing to have in DF Elite would be that us non-subscribes can not enter into the conversation in the chatroom, just read along what the "in-crowd" is writing.


well: do that and the chatroom will be almost empty.

Since all the same platforms,apple,windows,kindle,android etc...are going into Dogfight Elite, why would the lag be less,if say,anyone of these platforms is slow to update for example?
As I understand it Apple is one of the major causes of lag currrently,so common sense tells me that will happen in the again...?
Would subscribers playing on same platforms have less lag?
If so,is there a way to attach a "signature" to a windows 8.1 user for example via their ip address or Dogfight Elite account which directs them to play with others on the same platform???
I hope you find other ways to tackle lag issues especially for paying customers because I really do love Dogfight and all it's flavorful pilots!
Thanks Zuperman!

One version for each platform.
why?...really why NOT???
If I'm going to subscribe and pay to get better access,it would bring great peace of mind knowing that when I go to the windows store I will be playing with others on the same update with little lag and all that encompasses.
Zuperman,Elite "sounds" great,but you haven't said anything encouraging or optimistic about addressing lag. I've been here for years and I think I can speak for most of the veteran players that all the above mentioned ideas are nice but throwing us old dogs a bone about addressing the lag issue would be enticing!!
I understand you're in the developing stage and there will be trials etc...so I will remain optimistic and loyal.

OK HERE IS MY WISH LIST ZUP. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM WHAT DO I WANT OOOOOOOOO YA CAN WE KEEP THE LAG LOL JUST KIDDING. OK SERIOUS WISH LIST IS BELOW.

1-AA GUNS AT BASE'S FOR DEFENSE ALSO ON SHIPS.
2-NEW MAPS WOULD BE NICE IF EVERY GAME TYPE WOULD RUN ON A DIFFERENT MAP.
3-MAYBE MORE LVLS THEN CURRENT DF.
4-ABILITY TO PICK SIDES NOT RANDOM WHAT I MEAN IS IF THERE WOULD BE A BUTTON OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE EITHER ALLIED OF GERMAN SIDE SO SQUAD CAN STICK TOGETHER IF THEY DESIRE. I KNOW YOU CAN ALREADY PICK SIDE BY GOING OUT AND IN OUT AND IN BUT WOULD BE NICER IF A BUTTON WOULD BE THERE EASIER AND TIME SAVING.
5-ALSO WOULD BE NICE IF WE CAN HAVE ABILITY SOMEHOW TO ZOOM IN OR OUT WHEN AIMING AT TARGET MAYBE A SCOPE ON PLANE.
6-MORE BOMBS CURRENT DF HAS LIMIT OF UP TO 2 BOMBS WITH UPGRADES CAN WE MAYBE HAVE MORE BOMBS LIKE MAYBE 4 AT LEAST. I KNOW IT WOULD MAKE PLANES MORE SLOWER. BUT WOULD ADD A MORE CHALLENGING AFFECT TO GAME ALSO THEN YOU WOULD REQUIRE MORE TEAM WORK SOME PLANES TO ESCORT OTHERS WOULD CONCENTRATE ON BOMBING RUNS.

OK FOR NOW THAT'S EVERYTHING I CAN THINK OF ILL PROBABLY POST AGAIN IF MORE THINGS COME UP.

[M]Comet wrote:

DDtd|Mr.Brandman wrote:

[M]Comet wrote: Couldn't help but notice at least 20 non subscribers coming up with ideas for a new game...I know some are waiting to renew their subscription once this version works better... Not trying to stir things up (ok maybe I am) but how do you improve a product when so many are playing for free? You need revenue to make it better. It's time to start charging to play. Those of us that do pay did it to support the developer. If we're not seeing the results why continue? Furthermore if everyone said screw it I'll wait 7 minutes would Dogfight even be around anymore?

I'm all in for DF Elite. And I'll gladly look at paying for it once the original is working better. Give me a good product and it's easy to be loyal and supportive. Right now it's very frustrating.

Ok. So abouttp me putting in my input, im too youbg to own a credit card, I have no job nor even a drivers license. If I couod I would pay in a heartbeat. This game is well worth the $2 it costs. Take thst I to consideration when you start calling people out about not subscribing plz

Thanks

Nothing personal Brand, you're one of the most respectful (and respected) young players out there, and I did take that into consideration. I know there are a lot of young players that don't have income. But there's a business aspect of this too. You want a product you pay for it. You don't have the money? Guess what, you don't get the product. It's just how it is.

There are ways to pay without a credit card. There are google play cards, visa paypower, Microsoft cards, on and on. If you're addicted and dedicated you will find a way.

The little revenue that does get generated here comes from the subscribers...maybe watching the ads generate some too, I'm not too sure. But when the rest of us pay to support everyone and nothing improves...well then as a consumer I have a decision to make. Is this worth my time and money? And let's face it, some of the most popular and long term players that love this game aren't making the appearances that they once were. Haven't seen guys like Hulk or Davy on here in days. What's that tell you? We are getting frustrated with what's going on here.

Love this game just as much as the next person but what am I paying for? And like I said, until this game works better I'm not the slightest bit interested in DF2. And I'm willing to bet a lot of others feel the same way.

True true, i feel same way, df1 needs to be better before df2, i wish it was like it was when i joined...simple and no lag, and ive talked to ky parents about the other options and they are 100% against it, i tried explaining what it was for and what i would get woth it but they firmly said no, until i move out parents rule is law

Ok zup here it goes.

First I have played lots of different sim games and I can say with certainly that....
-THIS GAME HAS THE BEST CHAT SYSTEM ANY WERE-
DONT CHANGE THE INGAME CHAT!

Bright sun. Keeping in the sun has always been a dogfight tactic.
so how about a plane getting lost in the sun for suprise attacks.

Crossing trajectory for ww2 wing mount guns.

Bomber missions and defense missions "battle of Britton".

And please no "health status bars" on players, they are simply distracting and unrealistic.

And something that would make a big difference IMO.....
Spawing in the sky and in formation, at the bigginning anyways.

And ps. Please make the game playable without having to buy your way through.

I personally think you should drop the df elite and refocus all are money and patients on normal dogfight, but thats just me :/

Hunter Chilton 2 wrote: I personally think you should drop the df elite and refocus all are money and patients on normal dogfight, but thats just me :/

I dont like the idea of scrapping it, just postponing df elite until df1 is in a more stable condition. He has too much time amd money for it to be thrown out conpletely

I dont know brand, i mean sounds like he has been trying to do something and its just not working out, but what should i know, ill ive heard from zup is just be patient, and ive been patient for months now.

NO MORE LAG

[M]ad wrote:

[M]ad wrote: I might be bit greedy here.
As some one pointed out:
* An option to create PRIVATE ROOMS with invite only.
* See who is online.
* A new ranking system which shows who all are above and below our ranks( say +/- 10)
* Map name on some corner of game screen.

Just curious, would you be launching DF elite for all the platforms or is just just for android,apple and windows pc. Im asking because most of the time,when some new cool game get released and the devs just forgets us WINDOWS PHONE USERS. Damn,that hurts a lot Looking forward to hear you word on this zup. Thank you.

I already replied to this on the original post. Any device that supports OpenGL 3 and is a decent device, will be able to run it. That means that it will run on Windows Phone but don't expect it to run on a Nokia Lumia 520 because that phone is the cheapest low end windows phone.

A wish list? But it’s not Christmas…
Dear Santa
1. I want GIRL PILOTS!!!! And not ugly like the boys pilot. Remember beauties not beast.
2. I WANT MY MACHINE GUN for my GI Jane.
3. A pink plane would be nice or Girl skull decals.
4. Fix the cows!!! Or tanks they are just too slow and the cow tipping it’s just tragic.
5. Team dogfight challenge.
6. Have the choice to start game in tank.
7. And a PONY. A real one this time!!


I have been niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice to everyone all year, you can ask around.

zuperman wrote:

[M]ad wrote:

[M]ad wrote: I might be bit greedy here.
As some one pointed out:
* An option to create PRIVATE ROOMS with invite only.
* See who is online.
* A new ranking system which shows who all are above and below our ranks( say +/- 10)
* Map name on some corner of game screen.

Just curious, would you be launching DF elite for all the platforms or is just just for android,apple and windows pc. Im asking because most of the time,when some new cool game get released and the devs just forgets us WINDOWS PHONE USERS. Damn,that hurts a lot Looking forward to hear you word on this zup. Thank you.

I already replied to this on the original post. Any device that supports OpenGL 3 and is a decent device, will be able to run it. That means that it will run on Windows Phone but don't expect it to run on a Nokia Lumia 520 because that phone is the cheapest low end windows phone.

I'm not a tech savy. Still I googled on OpenGL 3 which showed some more tech terms which I couldn't understand. And the link you provided on the old thread only showed android devices,no windows phone models were mentioned there. That made me ask about it here. Thnx for making it clear.

Hi Zup

I would like to be able to see if any of my friends / squadron are are playing. Then have the option to join their game (preferably on the same side if possible).

Thanks

Thanks for asking what we would want in DF Elite zup now i can go crazy with ideas

- First of all, choosable missions, sometimes I feel like turnfighting, but I get bombing missions... gets a bit boring!!

- Bombers would be nice, as previously suggested by others, but that would require a fighter escort... so, maybe a protect the bomber mission, instead of a protect the zeppelin?

- Choosing inbetween WW1 and WW2 mode, because if you add planes like the ME262 (first ever jet fighter) and you go up against an Airco plane (the current lowest ranking plane of the allied side) would cause a lot of problems; to start with the speed, you would have that airco in sight for less than a second (WW2 ME262's even had problems with aiming on a (for instance) P41 Mustang, you can only guess what a horror it would be to aim on an Airco with a ME262...). Furthermore that means that the ww1 planes would be totally outclassed and easy meat for the ww2 planes, concerning historical accuraccy (which would be damaged by putting the two ww's together).

- Use a damage indicator (not 4 shots for a kill, but more, on different body parts of the plane), add a little plane in a part of the screen to show where you have been hit (critically). This provokes actual dogfights, instead of that constant head on, which was never done in ww1 & 2, only as a defensive measure to ensure your tail wasnt exposed, but hardly any kills due to head on passes, as it was, and is, considered suicide by fighter pilots.

- Tail rudder, so that more complex aerial manouvers can be performed, together with implementing actual laws of physics in the game (like lift etc.). Because its impossible to turn in a circle for some considerable time in real life, as it is here on dogfight. Which leads me to turning radius; on the current dogfight the rule is: the faster you go, the tighter the circle of turn, in real life however, it is the complete opposite.

- Parachutes should be unarmed, its completely unrealistic (and very annoying) that a parachute is able to gun you down with a rifle or even a machine gun. Just make a parachute unarmed so that they can tank but have to rely on luck to reach the ground unharmed, and then get in the tank.

- New missions such as: protect the bomber (similar to protect the transport plane in the training mission on the current dogfight); torpedo the battleship (ww2 mode only); any other player suggestions.

- Please add the Stuka dive bomber (one of my favourite planes)

- No lagg anymore, please!!!

Those are my suggestions for now, hope they all will be added

Good luck with designing zup, hope DF Elite will be out soon!!

Zup

I believe the purchase prices for points are way too high. I would like to see them be cut in half. At this new rate it seems to be more reasonable than the current ones. I had a tough time debating whether or not I should invest into the game which eventually I did and am not fully upraded on both sides in my tier 7 planes. I put in $75 for my upgrades along the way since I started to play and find myself still short of where I would like to be.

Remember also that many younger ones play here and these costs are a big expense on them as well as everyone else.

I don't know if I am right in saying this but I do believe that if you half the costs you would see an increase in the purchases of point and in the long run would increase your revenue. Plus it would make many players happy as well. I already invested my money and would be more than ok that I took a bigger hit than what these players may take should you lower the prices.

The $2 a month subscription fee is at a perfect price point.

I think we should have private lobbies so we can play with our friends. Maybe we could have in game chat so we can verbally talk to the game members. I would also think deign able to customize or own pantone on our planes would be cool. But the colors should only cost around 1,000 points.

This may only be a dream .but zup in dfe I would like to see a bombing mission where it's just that .you can't be a dropper and stay in the game .us head on guys want to have a three hour game we would love to be able to put our skills to good use against each other .We get tired of fighting for an hour or more only to have a dropper jump in and screw up what was a great game .I respect that you say fly as you want but us head on guys are not allowed to fly as we want.

Ok, AND a pony. But NOT till after the Camaro!

Husky Dog {WP**} wrote: Ok, AND a pony. But NOT till after the Camaro!

You behind the wheel of anything scares me .

Oh, and while you're working on what it might contain,
we'd like world peace,
and a cure for the common cold.

Zip I have to ideas both speared. 1: To keep spawn killing from happening have a few seconds before you can take damage after respawning.