nightorado wrote: That's a good pic of the b17,showing how shot up they could get and still make it back home and land!

The BF109F Over the wing on that aircraft was the only reason it made it home, believe it or not, that German pilot escorted that B-17 home by flying over its wing when the aircraft went over German flak, as the flak would not fire and risk taking the friendly aircraft with the heavily damaged bomber, the BF109's pilot later wrote that he did not shoot them out of the sky (as easy as it may have been seeing the condition of the B-17) simply because it was defence less and he admired her crew for keeping her in the air in her current condition, he left her wing when she came over friendly flak, the b-17 landed at a nearby English runway, arriving at only 200 feet off the ground (as high as she could go) and running on fumes, look it up some time.

My all time favorite and home for over 5 years

Panzer Vl Tiger 1 Henshaul, Eh? I prefer the panther, the Tiger had a nasty habit of over heating, track hopping (loss of track incredibly easy) and breaking down/ engine stalling, not to mention the easily jammed turret, and high maintanance costs...

Which CV is it viper

nightorado wrote: Which CV is it viper

Hard to tell from that picture, but its a Nimitz class which means it could be anything CV-68 and up. I spent a lot of time on Nimitz class carriers in my day......

Vixen wrote:

nightorado wrote: That's a good pic of the b17,showing how shot up they could get and still make it back home and land!

The BF109F Over the wing on that aircraft was the only reason it made it home, believe it or not, that German pilot escorted that B-17 home by flying over its wing when the aircraft went over German flak, as the flak would not fire and risk taking the friendly aircraft with the heavily damaged bomber, the BF109's pilot later wrote that he did not shoot them out of the sky (as easy as it may have been seeing the condition of the B-17) simply because it was defence less and he admired her crew for keeping her in the air in her current condition, he left her wing when she came over friendly flak, the b-17 landed at a nearby English runway, arriving at only 200 feet off the ground (as high as she could go) and running on fumes, look it up some time.

cool story I definitely will

Viper10{WP} wrote:

My all time favorite and home for over 5 years

ships now? Here's my pick (three bundles of bang) First up! The French Dunkerque!


Next, The Alaska Class Battle Cruiser! (American design)


And last but not least, The German Admiral Hipper Class Heavy Cruiser!

Cool, here's my beloved French Dunkerque for you guys to marvel, she was an 'All guns in frontal positions' Design, similar to the British Nelson Class, anyway, here's my favorite ship of all time:

Yes, both those frontal turrets are quads, just confirming for ya

Ships geez I don't even have a favorite .I've worked in shipyards from Philadelphia. To pearl.my family has been navy for over a hundred and fifty years my grams cousin won the CMH On the Nevada at pearl, and they named a destroyer escort after him Edwin J Hill there's a story to look up

Sorry night, but I read that and had a fan-girl spasm, I love naval related topics, and shipping in general, that's awesome that you got to work around them!

Haha that's cool,another good tale of the sea and another cousin is Herman Kossler captain of the Sub Cavalla a gato class he won the navy cross and sunk the Japanese carrier Shokaku ,which was at the attack on pearl

O.M.G. Best. Family. History. Ever.

Thanks Vixen,I actually got to spend some time with Admiral Kossler he was quite a man.I am impressed with your knowledge of history,I'm glad you started this thread

Thanks, oh, on the history part, back in school age (I'm not far beyond it at only 20) I was very, very shy, and kinda-sorta kept to myself, a lot. And then I caught my dad watching an old war movie when I was 10 and instantly started researching the topic of Wold Wars 1 and 2, and from then on it just kept piling up, and I always had my nose in a book, odd huh? I was and still am shy though lol

nightorado wrote: Thanks Vixen,I actually got to spend some time with Admiral Kossler he was quite a man.I am impressed with your knowledge of history,I'm glad you started this thread

Im glad you started this thread as well. Good stuff here.

Argoto Gozi Masu! (Much thanks)

I wouldn't say odd,just unusual, good for you I like when young people take an interest in history

Vixen wrote: Panzer Vl Tiger 1 Henshaul, Eh? I prefer the panther, the Tiger had a nasty habit of over heating, track hopping (loss of track incredibly easy) and breaking down/ engine stalling, not to mention the easily jammed turret, and high maintanance costs...

Yeah, I was gonna go with the Panzer V, but decided on the Tiger 1 due to it being basically a mobile platform for the most deadly anti-tank weapon, the 88mm gun. Plus, it is beautiful as far as tanks go. The Panthers were excellent tanks but in the documentaries I have seen the allied tankers feared the Tigers above all others.

As far as battleships go... I was on the Coral Sea and this behemoth was in our battlegroup

Viper10{WP} wrote:

Vixen wrote: Panzer Vl Tiger 1 Henshaul, Eh? I prefer the panther, the Tiger had a nasty habit of over heating, track hopping (loss of track incredibly easy) and breaking down/ engine stalling, not to mention the easily jammed turret, and high maintanance costs...

Yeah, I was gonna go with the Panzer V, but decided on the Tiger 1 due to it being basically a mobile platform for the most deadly anti-tank weapon, the 88mm gun. Plus, it is beautiful as far as tanks go. The Panthers were excellent tanks but in the documentaries I have seen the allied tankers feared the Tigers above all others.

Heh...heheh......false.....sorry, The Panther mounted a better version of the same weapon, had better armor, was faster, more reliable, and cheaper, and 60% of kills credited to the Tiger were kills by Misidentified Pz 4 F2's, and no, the Americans didn't fear them too much, at moderate range a 75mm Sherman could penetrate the front with ease...

Viper10{WP} wrote:

Vixen wrote: Panzer Vl Tiger 1 Henshaul, Eh? I prefer the panther, the Tiger had a nasty habit of over heating, track hopping (loss of track incredibly easy) and breaking down/ engine stalling, not to mention the easily jammed turret, and high maintanance costs...

Yeah, I was gonna go with the Panzer V, but decided on the Tiger 1 due to it being basically a mobile platform for the most deadly anti-tank weapon, the 88mm gun. Plus, it is beautiful as far as tanks go. The Panthers were excellent tanks but in the documentaries I have seen the allied tankers feared the Tigers above all others.

Viper did u see the show tank overhaul when they drug a tiger out of a river in Russia and got it running.there was a cigarette butt in the oil return passage jammed in to cause engine failure .they suspected sabotage by the engine builder.they used slave labor frequently,cool engine though Maybach V12

Viper10{WP} wrote:

As far as battleships go... I was on the Coral Sea and this behemoth was in our battlegroup

The one and only USS Iowa... A simbol of American pride, and power during war time, Lovely ship, Last shot fired bombarding a Korean port during the Korean wars....nice choice

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank

Some info for ya.

nightorado wrote:

Viper10{WP} wrote:

Vixen wrote: Panzer Vl Tiger 1 Henshaul, Eh? I prefer the panther, the Tiger had a nasty habit of over heating, track hopping (loss of track incredibly easy) and breaking down/ engine stalling, not to mention the easily jammed turret, and high maintanance costs...

Yeah, I was gonna go with the Panzer V, but decided on the Tiger 1 due to it being basically a mobile platform for the most deadly anti-tank weapon, the 88mm gun. Plus, it is beautiful as far as tanks go. The Panthers were excellent tanks but in the documentaries I have seen the allied tankers feared the Tigers above all others.

Viper did u see the show tank overhaul when they drug a tiger out of a river in Russia and got it running.there was a cigarette butt in the oil return passage jammed in to cause engine failure .they suspected sabotage by the engine builder.they used slave labor frequently,cool engine though Maybach V12

I did see that episode... pretty awesome.

Hiiiiissssssssssss never EVER trust wiki!!!!!!'

Oh, oops, sorry my mistake, it was a 75mm....but still, it was a better gun

Vixen wrote:

Viper10{WP} wrote:

As far as battleships go... I was on the Coral Sea and this behemoth was in our battlegroup

The one and only USS Iowa... A simbol of American pride, and power during war time, Lovely ship, Last shot fired bombarding a Korean port during the Korean wars....nice choice

They re-commissioned a few of the battleships and I was lucky enough to capture a photo of the Iowa crossing our wake approximately a week prior to the accident in the turret. Its rumored they could fire a projectile the size of a Volkswagen 26 miles. Not sure how true that is, but what a beautiful ship she was.

Vixen wrote: Oh, oops, sorry my mistake, it was a 75mm....but still, it was a better gun

I think we agree it was an excellent tank. I just like the Tiger better.

I didn't get to work on the New Jersey,the the Iowa's sister but I did take a tour, impressive ship and the most decorated in American naval history