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www.cnn.com/2014/08/09/us/south-dakota-taser-lawsuit/index.html

I couldn't find one with an 11 yr old...but found this one instead...and this little girl is only 8!

I still believe that you are a good LEO. and a smart man TX. although I do agree with Nix on many points. I personally know of multiple transgressions by police officers rape burglary drug offenses in my local area. State Police in Pennsylvania don't show a record of abuse that local Leos. have. They are deployed far from where they grew up for the reason of cutting back on corruption. Maybe your particular organization has a better handle on things than where I live. I'll reiterate I do believe there are many good cops that have a very difficult and dangerous job, but I believe the power of the position draws many individuals that are prone to abuse the people they are there to protect. I am going to study this particular case since I have posted twice on the thread. Maybe what I am trying to express is that it's not just media attention alone that has people all over the country angry and protesting, there is actually history behind it. I

Police Murder Homeless Man on Surveillance Video:

Please watch this one TXLawman!

Well you can pretty much google anything I've said and find a mountain of evidence. I also thought this was a gossip thread and could voice my opinion. Not sure if its safer to shoot someone in the chest instead of the leg but thats your opinion. Thanks to everyone for backing me up. I hope we can all move past this and just play the game. I'm done

I was going to avoid this topic like the Ebola virus but just have to throw out my 2cents worth....

Ferguson never should have happened and the media abused its position to play the 'sheeple' for its own ends.

Whose idea was it to send a young white officer into a predominately black neighborhood in the first place?? A recipe for disaster....

In an ideal world race wouldn't be an issue and we would all treat each other with mutual respect and honor but the powers that be are seeing fit to stir racial tensions when they see an opportunity like Ferguson.... In yet another form of divide and distract our rights and freedoms are being stolen and we're all being driven further into economic slavery.

Nix is totally right tho, look at how the white male is currently being portrayed in the mainstream media. It is either as a complete idiot, fool or crook.... except in NASCAR I no longer own a TV because of the pure stupidity and lies that spew out of it....

The meeting the guys in the alley scenario made me laugh. I personally have encountered groups of 'good' cops and 'bad' cops and groups of 'outlaws' that i would trust my life with and groups of 'tweekers' that have me reaching for a weapon on site....

These are interesting times here in the U$A for sure.... glad I have DF for a distraction!!

see ya out there

Just yet another thought about this:

I don't know any stastistics,......but here in Europe the chance of a young burglar (oh,....wasn't he?) actually having a gun is not that big because of the restriction on gun ownership.
Sure all punks want a 'piece', because that's how they see it on American films and tv series.

So you hardly hear anything like this happening over here. Many think the police is not 'tough' enough.

We reap what we sow...

HITGIRL wrote: Police Murder Homeless Man on Surveillance Video:

Please watch this one TXLawman!

Congrats you found a video of two cops beating a guy. Cookie?

I mean seriously you can hunt down any truth you want. You keep pulling up obvious examples and you will eventually convince yourself this is the norm. I have an innumerable amount of friends who are cops. They are of a multitude of races. Most (99%) are men and women just doing a job the right way. You can find all the odd and end examples you want. It won't change my opinion that most cops are good guys and gals doing an honest job. Go ahead and bemoan their efforts, nothing new that most haven't heard, even when it is untrue.

This was just one of thousands of videos where police officers abuse their power. I never said all cops were bad, I was simply helping nix prove his point. Now that is said, I myself do not have a criminal record, nor have I ever been arrested my entire life and I don't feel comfortable around police officers because I DO know what they are capable of. I have a good friend that won't even come to my house to visit because of my local police department won't stop hitting on her and she's afraid that if she keeps turning them down, they will do something about it. So you can keep your cookie and shove it where the sun don't shine. Thank you very much have a nice day

HITGIRL wrote: This was just one of thousands of videos where police officers abuse their power. I never said all cops were bad, I was simply helping nix prove his point. Now that is said, I myself do not have a criminal record, nor have I ever been arrested my entire life and I don't feel comfortable around police officers because I DO know what they are capable of. I have a good friend that won't even come to my house to visit because of my local police department won't stop hitting on her and she's afraid that if she keeps turning them down, they will do something about it. So you can keep your cookie and shove it where the sun don't shine. Thank you very much have a nice day

Was hoping for something a bit more informative and more ignorance with no facts is all I'm given. By this point, I shouldn't be surprised. Your hand has been shown as lacking anything truly credible and then backed my ignorance with no true personal experience with the police. Keep holding on to your isolated cases. Hopefully one day you gain some wisdom and insight.

P.S.-Before getting put on blast for calling someone ignorant, remember that it is not an insult. It just mean that perhaps they don't know any better.

This topic should have never been posted on a game forum

You can bring out all the anecdotal evidence you can find in support of your views or to counter someone else's views. The only thing they prove are that claims made stating that "This is the way it is in every situation" are false.

Would anyone actually claim that no innocent people are ever killed by cops who make bad decisions influenced by racial prejudice?

Would anyone actually claim that all cops are racist?

My personal experiences include exceptions to both positions. How about yours? People have a tendency to give credibility to those with whom they share the most commonality, making anecdotes very powerful persuasive tools but they are still logical fallacies.


My 2 cents is that people will usually go looking for information to back up their own positions and some people will use what they find to bolster their resolve rather than caring why someone may hold the other position. Name calling and belittling are signs of intellectual weakness.

Rioting is obviously counterproductive, so is knee jerk support for all law enforcement actions but both are easier to do than finding a real solution to the problem of why people are so willing to automatically assume the worst from a bad situation. Personal experience has a big influence over attitude. I think both "sides" here suffer from fallacious circular reasoning.

A healthy conversation can include anecdotes but they should not be weighed as facts which define the whole situation. They should be heard and considered as the background for why someone feels the way they do. If you have already made up your mind and found no validity to the opposite point of view you may just be drinking your own 'Jonestown' cool aid.

If your really interested in this discussion, you should see this. Its from today. Its also coming from a peace officer... Enjoy

» Former Philly Police Captain: Cops Are Mercenaries for Corporations Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! www.infowars.com/former-philly-police-ca...es-for-corporations/

friedchicken85 wrote: This topic should have never been posted on a game forum

Thanks troll,

Your intelligence wont soon be forgotten.

And some of the good folks here have been here along time and we enjoy a good discussion. If more people had open discussions like this things like the riots might be avoided.

friedchicken85 wrote: This topic should have never been posted on a game forum

Fried,...someone must have broken into your account and posted the most sensible remark on this topic.

You better have the police look into that!

A topic with a lot of heat, 'cause we got a bit carried away with the fuzz that's on the news lately.
Would it be a cop out if just leave it at this?

I really don't want to do this because of what happened earlier, but I was on the MOM thread looking around and guess what I saw. A racist joke (post#229916, from yesterday I think) Guess who the only person to put a thank you was... Yep, u guessed it. TX lawman. He did make a comment about racists being lazy a few posts later, but never said anything to the effect of " you shouldn't talk like that". Seems a bit hypocritical to me but what do I know....

You didn't want to, yet somehow you did. I took the high road and even apologized for calling you stupid. Then you go here. You will always be red in my book, Nix. See ya in the unfriendly skies. And you could at least quote me properly, but you are probably too stupid to pull that off. Oops, I didn't want to have to go there...

nixkillin wrote: I really don't want to do this because of what happened earlier, but I was on the MOM thread looking around and guess what I saw. A racist joke (post#229916, from yesterday I think) Guess who the only person to put a thank you was... Yep, u guessed it. TX lawman. He did make a comment about racists being lazy a few posts later, but never said anything to the effect of " you shouldn't talk like that". Only said to get to know someone before you hate them.

TXLAWMAN wrote: You didn't want to, yet somehow you did. I took the high road and even apologized for calling you stupid. Then you go here. You will always be red in my book, Nix. See ya in the unfriendly skies. And you could at least quote me properly, but you are probably too stupid to pull that off. Oops, I didn't want to have to go there...

nixkillin wrote: I really don't want to do this because of what happened earlier, but I was on the MOM thread looking around and guess what I saw. A racist joke (post#229916, from yesterday I think) Guess who the only person to put a thank you was... Yep, u guessed it. TX lawman. He did make a comment about racists being lazy a few posts later, but never said anything to the effect of " you shouldn't talk like that". Only said to get to know someone before you hate them.

notice you didn't deny it. That or the steroid thing. And you did the right thing to apologize. Takes alot to admit when your wrong. I could care less if I'm always red to u. Everyone on the streets probably red to you. Are you mad because its the truth or because I can speak freely to an officer without any consequences. I took a screenshot in case your thinking of deleting the post btw. And yes, I didn't want too because I knew your roid rage would kick in and you'd start name calling all over again. I believe its called the criminal addictive cycle. You make a mistake, apologize, and do it all over again. Break the cycle man. Try to see from another point of view than your own. Don't be mad cuz I put you on front street. I was just quoting you. I even put the post number so everyone could see. Got a nice screenshot too. Remember TX, its better to be called a fool and keep your mouth shut, then to open it and prove them right. Cya in the skies little fella

The one and only thing I hate about clashing voices: The race to see who can look the smartest and stand the tallest while making a fool of themselves and others around them, Bravo on turning a conversation into a flame war nix, and tx, and fd, and the rest of you that tried it, you know who you are, now please calm down and get back down to the topic, where we're level headed and all of our independent inputs matter and nobody turns on each other because everyone has an equal right to give their opinion, seeing as that's the only purpose of a forum, to bring people and opinions together, thank you for your time ♡

Vixen wrote: The one and only thing I hate about clashing voices: The race to see who can look the smartest and stand the tallest while making a fool of themselves and others around them, Bravo on turning a conversation into a flame war nix, and tx, and fd, and the rest of you that tried it, you know who you are, now please calm down and get back down to the topic, where we're level headed and all of our independent inputs matter and nobody turns on each other because everyone has an equal right to give their opinion, seeing as that's the only purpose of a forum, to bring people and opinions together, thank you for your time ♡

Good stuff vixen. But if you read all the posts, you'll see I was stating my opinion and got attacked by someone that didn't agree. I was only defending my point of view. Which I think was, a house divided will not stand. I might've stirred it up a little by pointing out the racist thing, but if you had the same convo with someone about homosexuality and then it turns out the guy is gay, wouldn't you say something? ... Rebuke a wise man and gain a friend. Rebuke a fool and get a black eye. (paraphrasing from proverbs)..I apologize if i offended anyone at anytime with anything I've ever said. The truth hurts, especially when its about you...

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