You have no chance now if your at least 2 levels below top tier, if the red swerves and bobs away, to get on your tail and you done.
The complaining will rise with Dropping, if you have the new plane, dont drop, I only got one kill on one guy who dropped/camped in the new plane, if you have the new plane and see any thing but a F1 dont drop, because now you have the power to kill the whole enemy team, just one guy who drops, fly the new plane like you would fly the D8 not a loom(by loom I mean weaving and dodging) keep that in mind, Zup, please make the ability for players to choose the era of plane they want to fly, in that match, its time if people will drop like this.
the game is going to chance big time, alot, in a big way, and this is not a complaint, sorta is but you know.

So you're suggesting that if you're in a top-level plane in a bombing mission, don't drop when a red drops and attacks?
I've been pulling off since pretty good games in my Spad lately. It's the third level. And i hold my own. Sure, I'm not as great as I'm gonna be in my D8, but that's to be expected. I was in a game with you, just yesterday, and it took me all of 10 minutes to be the top player on the board... How about you practice and try to get better, so one day YOU can fly a good plane?

I think your problem is you dont know the game so you don't know how to fly! I've had numerous games agains new plane in my spad and se5a I have no problem dropping them. So before you start the crying practice practice practice is all I can tell you. The new plane with or without bomb is no faster then then D8 and it alot easier to hit but that's only if you know how to aim!

I have said this many times, it's the pilot not the plane. In a DH2 I could kill d8 s without a blink (i spent a day doing it just to test myself).

The planes are never more balanced then when they carry bombs. A top tier plane with 1 bomb is around 130 kmh, and 120kmh with 2 bombs. Mid range planes are around 125 with 1 bomb. It's when bombs get dropped that that the game gets out of whack, as your gaining a 30 to 40 kmh speed boost, with no disadvantage! That's a bigger speed boost then the split between the starting planes and top planes max speed without bombs.

[e]hammer_tool wrote: I have said this many times, it's the pilot not the plane. In a DH2 I could kill d8 s without a blink (i spent a day doing it just to test myself).

The pilot and the plane are an inseparable team,one simply cannot exist without the other. The pilot counts,but so does the plane,if you have a better plane you will win more times than you lose.

Plus,this isn't a simulator,its not like real life,like we don't slow down when we turn for one thing. The better pilot thing works for real life,not an arcade ww1 game

pheonix22 wrote:

[e]hammer_tool wrote: I have said this many times, it's the pilot not the plane. In a DH2 I could kill d8 s without a blink (i spent a day doing it just to test myself).

The pilot and the plane are an inseparable team,one simply cannot exist without the other. The pilot counts,but so does the plane,if you have a better plane you will win more times than you lose.

not true I can fly in the free planes and I'll still get the same game kdr that I get now in my Dr1 and se5 its the pilot all planes are crappy without a good pilot! For example I had a game with a noob today that flew D8 his kdr with it 20/55 now fly against a good pilot lets say Von Hulk for example put him in D8 your looking at well we all know that answer 100+ game close to maybe 30 deaths (don't quote me on that death part.) No lets see which is that pilot or plane hmmm hard to figure out not PILOT! Ok now try a different view ok lets use the E3 but a noob in it say lvl 10 cause I had a game with these scores today. Lvl 10 score is 30/55 ok next game I fly E3 my score was 59/22 Now keep in mind I'm not a great pilot but I'm ok not weird right same plane different score! So with that in mind tell me why you think planes matter? Its clearly the pilots yes planes come into factors and help some but is no difference better or crappy plane it just comes down to the pilot and how skilled they are. Hopefully that makes sense to you

WOW everyone is bad when they 1st start this game and almost 98% of all the "noobs" get the hang of it around levels 10-13. "Princess can only cry for so long until Daddy closes the check book" so stop asking for zup to fix things! he already got rid of the D8 because people couldn't handle it.. Jeez we will all be in paper airplanes soon !?!?!?! LOL My father normally says " Suck it up Buttercup" so you should do the same.

Mr.[LF]Becken wrote: WOW everyone is bad when they 1st start this game and almost 98% of all the "noobs" get the hang of it around levels 10-13. "Princess can only cry for so long until Daddy closes the check book" so stop asking for zup to fix things! he already got rid of the D8 because people couldn't handle it.. Jeez we will all be in paper airplanes soon !?!?!?! LOL My father normally says " Suck it up Buttercup" so you should do the same.

Screw off becken, if you don't have any thing useful to say on my threads, then stay out of them, I've had about enough of you, don't come in my threads expecting to cause shit with me. Cause I don't do it to you doesn't mean I'm weak in a shit target, stay out of my threads. Every one else in this thread had some thing useful to say most people who do comment on my threads have something useful to say.

don't start cussing... im sure quit a few agree with my post

Well I didn't, if you got something cute to say, say it to someone else, not me.

jeez ease up yellow.. just saying the game has always been like this

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

Mr.[LF]Becken wrote: WOW everyone is bad when they 1st start this game and almost 98% of all the "noobs" get the hang of it around levels 10-13. "Princess can only cry for so long until Daddy closes the check book" so stop asking for zup to fix things! he already got rid of the D8 because people couldn't handle it.. Jeez we will all be in paper airplanes soon !?!?!?! LOL My father normally says " Suck it up Buttercup" so you should do the same.

Screw off becken, if you don't have any thing useful to say on my threads, then stay out of them, I've had about enough of you, don't come in my threads expecting to cause shit with me. Cause I don't do it to you doesn't mean I'm weak in a shit target, stay out of my threads. Every one else in this thread had some thing useful to say most people who do comment on my threads have something useful to say.

"Screw off Becken" is quite more rude than anything Becken said to you. The reason you don't talk.... "feces".... To him, is because you don't have feces on him. You've got no ammo to judge anybody with. You know why? Because you spend all your time talking and not enough listening. Even your apology was the most unapologetic apology in history. It basically said "sorry, not sorry, I'm not changing".
So we've got over 450 posts of pure stupid to criticize. You're lucky we don't do it more.

Mac wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

Mr.[LF]Becken wrote: WOW everyone is bad when they 1st start this game and almost 98% of all the "noobs" get the hang of it around levels 10-13. "Princess can only cry for so long until Daddy closes the check book" so stop asking for zup to fix things! he already got rid of the D8 because people couldn't handle it.. Jeez we will all be in paper airplanes soon !?!?!?! LOL My father normally says " Suck it up Buttercup" so you should do the same.

Screw off becken, if you don't have any thing useful to say on my threads, then stay out of them, I've had about enough of you, don't come in my threads expecting to cause shit with me. Cause I don't do it to you doesn't mean I'm weak in a shit target, stay out of my threads. Every one else in this thread had some thing useful to say most people who do comment on my threads have something useful to say.

"Screw off Becken" is quite more rude than anything Becken said to you. The reason you don't talk.... "feces".... To him, is because you don't have feces on him. You've got no ammo to judge anybody with. You know why? Because you spend all your time talking and not enough listening. Even your apology was the most unapologetic apology in history. It basically said "sorry, not sorry, I'm not changing".
So we've got over 450 posts of pure stupid to criticize. You're lucky we don't do it more.

@Mac, lol
Yellow, there is a point here though and ost can agree when I say pull ur head out ur ass, get in a plane and fly! Iy only seems like ur just another forum worm, whos trying to get the most "thank yous" but most of ur threads are bogus. Its topics about someone out the most pitty, usless threads ive heard. And yes I would go with mac, because he reads everything (im convienced ) and his topics r interesting just by his grammer. Hes like a mini . Wig when it comes to writing and reading some of the coolest stuff. Amd yes if been on the wrong end of the barrow and it was tough for my arguments to compete to his. A word of advice.....let one of these two be ur mentor

Eagle21 out!

I did this with the new aircraft, not bad, no pump is fast, it moves enough to set target even with 2 pumps, but not bad, there que.acostumbrarse on, practice practice, is is best.

I did this with the new aircraft, not bad, no pump is fast, it moves enough to set target even with 2 pumps, but not bad, there que.acostumbrarse on, practice practice, is is best.

baron rojo wrote: I did this with the new aircraft, not bad, no pump is fast, it moves enough to set target even with 2 pumps, but not bad, there que.acostumbrarse on, practice practice, is is best.

you bully

Ok yellow just three words of advice to give 1. Don't spend so much time on the forum 2 you can't learn if you don't fly and watch the older pilots and how they get it done 3. When your in a game don't talk just be concerned about what is happening. If you have a question ask it other than that just fly. Its the beat way to learn

Khaos King wrote:

pheonix22 wrote:

[e]hammer_tool wrote: I have said this many times, it's the pilot not the plane. In a DH2 I could kill d8 s without a blink (i spent a day doing it just to test myself).

The pilot and the plane are an inseparable team,one simply cannot exist without the other. The pilot counts,but so does the plane,if you have a better plane you will win more times than you lose.

not true I can fly in the free planes and I'll still get the same game kdr that I get now in my Dr1 and se5 its the pilot all planes are crappy without a good pilot! For example I had a game with a noob today that flew D8 his kdr with it 20/55 now fly against a good pilot lets say Von Hulk for example put him in D8 your looking at well we all know that answer 100+ game close to maybe 30 deaths (don't quote me on that death part.) No lets see which is that pilot or plane hmmm hard to figure out not PILOT! Ok now try a different view ok lets use the E3 but a noob in it say lvl 10 cause I had a game with these scores today. Lvl 10 score is 30/55 ok next game I fly E3 my score was 59/22 Now keep in mind I'm not a great pilot but I'm ok not weird right same plane different score! So with that in mind tell me why you think planes matter? Its clearly the pilots yes planes come into factors and help some but is no difference better or crappy plane it just comes down to the pilot and how skilled they are. Hopefully that makes sense to you

Thank you for using me as the example, I'm flattered. I've had a couple of great games in different planes. I'll be glad when the d8 is gone. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy flying it. I just don't want an advantage, nor do I want a disadvantage. I have put up 10/1 KDR's with the d8, the best I can do in an allied plane is 5 or 6 to 1. I like an even playing field, so there are no reasons to pick one side or the other. Maybe the games will even out after it's gone.