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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199892

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In light of recent events, I deemed it neccessary to write this.
I've been involved in a rather... ugly altercation with a new pilot on forum, known as Yellow1Blaze. But, in order to explain myself, i have to go back.

Four and one-half months ago, Mac McMuffin was am ambitious, headstrong young pilot, with a moody streak and ragy tendencies. A dangerous combination. My one strength was that I could write.
I'm capable of writing long, crowd-swaying, logically adept orations. It's what I do.
But I got in to deep, too fast. I gave my opinion all over. I judged people I didn't know. When the big dropper/sneaker/camper debates occured in May, I was the most vocal, opinionated little turd you ever met.
When Star Chamber leaked, I was even worse. I condemned people for private thoughts that were having little effect on the game, however harsh they were.
Finally, Jackalope, Manfred, Luna, Wig, Flying Muck, and others told me to kindly SHUT UP!
And I did. Since then, I have had nothing but positive experiences with almost anybody I choose to. I went from an overstated, overconfident little prick, to a more thoughtful person, one that I hope people don't mind bring around. I still make trips outside of my business, regrettably, but I've improved. I think it's been months since I swore. Weeks since I even abbreviated. This experience has helped put my once-mangled life together, helped me learn humility.

Then, three days ago, he showed up. MatthewStuart. He started off with a bang, telling everybody that we apparently crap on Noobs and that don't worry, it's only because of our planes. In fact, some of us didn't even earn our planes. We were horrible enough to need to buy coins!!!!!
Then, he posted about TASK, saying we were a bad, failing idea. Then, he posted about droppers. Then, he posted on blacklist about Gunnerzz' argument flavor of the week. (Sorry Gunn, you know it's true.) Then he was on the M.O.M thread, harrassing Wig further.
Then he created thread, after, thread, after thread, over 100 posts the first day. It was obvious he was getting off on the wrong foot.

As soon as I realized he was well-intentioned, I created a thread for him. I don't know WHY i didn't use PM. I guess I forgot.
I told him he reminded me of myself. I used simple terms he could understand, as he has said his English isn't that great. I offered an olive branch, tried to help him before he was cast off as a troll. That post NEVER "attacked" him. Read it.

And he took that branch, snapped it over his knee, threw it back at me, and told me that if anything, I should grovel to him. How DARE i insinuate he wasn' the Meta-human, the culmination of history up until that point?

Needless to say, I didn't take that well. I should've walked away then but I couldn't. My personal demons were coming back, and I replied angrily, telling him, essentially, "NO! SCREW YOU THEN, I TRY TO HELP, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN!"

And now, Becken. Becken, Becken, Becken. Why are we always opposing each other? I can name three times we'e butted heads, and it has always been about something besides us. First when you said Blue Max should be banned , then when you said Spitfire SHOULDN' be bamned, now this. I've had nothing but positive experiences with you personally, why is this necessary? I tried to PM you, but you didn' answer my questions!

And one more thing: RESPECT. It is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT. We have the RIGHT to HAVE our opinions, it id a PRIVILEGE to state themand have them be accepted. Why are you saying I should respect everybody automatically? If that's what respect is, then I sure don't want it. What' the point of something that costs nothing?


So Yellow, I saw you say that you "Forgive me" that I "caused a scene". Don't say that. That's just factually incorrect, and we both know it. I don' WANT your forgiveness. I don't even want your respect. All I want, is your understanding. You don't ha.d me the olive branch, I'm handing it to you. Please take it, and let's put this behind us.
You're getting predictable, guys. You can do better, right?
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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199894

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Lol as always mac I'm lost on your post lol all good though but what about me on the blacklist?

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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199896

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gunnerzz wrote: Lol as always mac I'm lost on your post lol all good though but what about me on the blacklist?

I'll message you on Quad
You're getting predictable, guys. You can do better, right?

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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199899

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Ok bro heading there now!!!

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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199901

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Respect is a right, it becomes a privilege when you do some thing wrong.
And all you could have said was you where sorry, and thats what Im taking from this post, if you want to be on my good side which, you are now, you need to be kinder in the way you converse, you are a bit bitter like pickled olives, so sweeten up a bit.
Better terms from now on.






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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199907

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Dang Mac, yes you sure can write! Excellent piece, and honest. I commend you for it. And that, is how one "earns" respect!
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Yellow1Blaze wrote: Respect is a right, it becomes a privilege when you do some thing wrong.
And all you could have said was you where sorry, and thats what Im taking from this post, if you want to be on my good side which, you are now, you need to be kinder in the way you converse, you are a bit bitter like pickled olives, so sweeten up a bit.
Better terms from now on.


*Sigh*. Odds are, you'll never apologize. I forgive you anyway.
You're getting predictable, guys. You can do better, right?

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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199920

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G.I. Mac wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote: Respect is a right, it becomes a privilege when you do some thing wrong.
And all you could have said was you where sorry, and thats what Im taking from this post, if you want to be on my good side which, you are now, you need to be kinder in the way you converse, you are a bit bitter like pickled olives, so sweeten up a bit.
Better terms from now on.


*Sigh*. Odds are, you'll never apologize. I forgive you anyway.

the thing is I did, in another post but you must have not saw it, so im sorry Mac, hope we get on to better terms.






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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199923

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Yellow1Blaze wrote:

G.I. Mac wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote: Respect is a right, it becomes a privilege when you do some thing wrong.
And all you could have said was you where sorry, and thats what Im taking from this post, if you want to be on my good side which, you are now, you need to be kinder in the way you converse, you are a bit bitter like pickled olives, so sweeten up a bit.
Better terms from now on.


*Sigh*. Odds are, you'll never apologize. I forgive you anyway.

the thing is I did, in another post but you must have not saw it, so im sorry Mac, hope we get on to better terms.

Thank you. You have now earned my respect. Lol
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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199925

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thanks, you too budd






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Mac's Last Word. 11 years 2 months ago #199938

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I'm seeing the boiled blood from the past few days is cooling over, so if you don't mind Mac, I'm going to use your thread to make some reparations of my own.

Blaze, before anything, I'm going to apologize for blowing up on you over our PM exchange earlier, and I take back the things I said. All the events prior to our private conversation already had me on the edge, and upon seeing that message you sent me, I totally went over. To be honest, I'm going to admit I didn't even read the message before replying. I didn't want to read a word of your side of the story. Now that I have (I read your post on Becken's thread), I can understand where you are coming from, and I can't hold anything against you.

Looking back, I was really only angry at first because everyone else was. Negative attitudes can spread like wildfire, we all know that. But what drove me crazy was when we started the argument about respect. Now, I don't expect you to agree with me on this, but I'd like for you to understand.

I grew up in a military family. Both parents. All my life, I was always taught that all things that truly matter are earned, not given. This includes respect. I was told that despite what we all say about bad prejudgement, the first impression is always the most important. I was brought up to know that you cannot walk into a room expecting everyone to automatically give you respect. Everyone will judge you first, and decide whether or not to give respect later. Nobody cares about your backstory. This was the cold truth that was instilled to me.

This was further solidified when I finally joined the service not too long ago. When you're a "newbie" in the military, you get respect from almost no one, yet you are expected to give due respect to those above you. I have to watch every word I say, every move I make, and I must always conduct myself in a professional and humble manner. If I walk into a room full of other sailors (regardless of our ranks) and act entitled or cocky, I will get shot down and chewed out without mercy. For me, this is the way it is; whether I'm standing before my superiors, or in a restaurant with longtime friends, or on an online forum with some people all over the world.

Now when a fairly new member of the community creates some threads that make a significant amount of people angry, and later tells me that I'm at fault for not giving initial due respect; I get angry. In this case, very angry, because I considered it an insult to everything I know. So I snapped, and for that is what I'm apologizing for.

I'm not here to pick a fight. I just want you to understand where I'm coming from. Today, the smoke is clear and it's time for everyone to lick their wounds. Hand out the olive branches and sign the peace treaties. We don't have to agree, but hopefully we can all leave with a bit more respect towards each other than the day before.

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In the mean time, as far as many of us are concerned, Luna WILL be shown respect around here, or one will find themselves having the whole olive tree surgically extracted from their rear end. (Probably after she puts it there, but either way)

Good reply Luna, and you are not wrong at all. That's a lesson that many people don't understand, or that the rest of us have to be reminded of occasionally.


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She is correct, Im sorry for creating an issue, I don't blame you for losing your cool.






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