Hello Dogfighters!

I have noticed that the forum has gone south real fast. I remember 2-3 months ago when there was structure and there where mods that could deal with the pilots that couldn't follow the rules and the blacklist was actually used for meaningful conversations about those pilots that didn't follow the rules but now its just arguing and blubbering about who did what. Ive also noticed a lot of pilots cussing and using abbreviations (bs, fu, lmfao) for example and there is some other ones people use PLUS! some think spelling the cuss word wrong makes it right or using slang or another word with the same meaning.

I have noticed and im sure others have noticed the amount of rude and disrespectful conversations towards others. im sure most of you witnessed the event that unfolded in the “Dear Yellow Blaze, Please read this.”thread and I apologize for the way I acted but im the type of person that stands up for myself and others. I think that situation was handled wrong and should have been done over a pm not made public so everyone could tare him a new one, should have called it “The Roast of Yellow1Blaze” sense others also got involved.


The pilots of Dogfight are all great people I just think people don't think about the consequences of what they say to others. There is a lot of young players/pilots and last I checked the forum doesn't require you to be 18+ so all these young kids are seeing how you talk to others.. Heck my brother Weazel is 13 I don't want him seeing the trash that is sprayed by some and personally i think its embarrassing and makes the game look bad. I have friends that love plane/simulator games and I wouldn't recommend this game because there respectable people and they wouldn't put up with the forum nonsense.

Well that's all I have to say about the situation. feel free to respond to this just check the rude and disrespectful behavior at the door please.

Thank you Mr Becken. As always you bring honesty to the table, even when so many would rather not hear it.
I have only been involved in DF since late March, and you are correct. There has been quite a drop off in bevavior and integrity in recent weeks. I only hope that the really good people of DF can continue to overcome it, and not be driven away by frustration. I have been close a few times, but decided to try to turn it on a positive. Hence, Dr Curtisshoe...........just to try and be a voice of reason, and positivity at times when it seems there isnt...

The doc is in....

You r right I'm 11 and I love this game but I have to keep it hidden from my parents so they don't stop me from playing the game

CurtisShoe wrote: Thank you Mr Becken. As always you bring honesty to the table, even when so many would rather not hear it.
I have only been involved in DF since late March, and you are correct. There has been quite a drop off in bevavior and integrity in recent weeks. I only hope that the really good people of DF can continue to overcome it, and not be driven away by frustration. I have been close a few times, but decided to try to turn it on a positive. Hence, Dr Curtisshoe...........just to try and be a voice of reason, and positivity at times when it seems there isnt...

The doc is in....

your right when you say "many would rather not hear it" idk what it is with some.. maybe its just the personality that they want to have on the internet or just a big ego.

Just for the record:

WTF? = Why the fuss?

STFU = Southern Tennant Farmers Union.

Master_Chief wrote: You r right I'm 11 and I love this game but I have to keep it hidden from my parents so they don't stop me from playing the game

Master_Chief im sure your not the only one that loves the game but afraid your parents will take it away.. jeez I wouldn't even show my parents and im 18!!

Idont play it around them so I hope it disentangle get taken away

Master_Chief wrote: Idont play it around them so I hope it disentangle get taken away

hopefully it wont because I know this game is addictive and it sucks if you cant play for a day or two. Just be careful if your on forum and your parents are near.. at least in game isn't as bad

Mr.[LF]Becken wrote:

Master_Chief wrote: Idont play it around them so I hope it disentangle get taken away

hopefully it wont because I know this game is addictive and it sucks if you cant play for a day or two. Just be careful if your on forum and your parents are near.. at least in game isn't as bad

this game will probably win the Most Addictive Game award one day....its inevitable.....
(its the reason i keep on doing my college assignments last second...lol)

You may just be right Silencer!
And, keep fightin the good fight Mr Becken.......its all we can do bud

in the 7 months that I have been here ive noticed something there's leaders and follower and popular and unpopular. Its almost like being in middle school because there's groups of people that hang out and back each other up when something happens.. There's bully's and "jocks" then there's the A+ Honor students who get picked on witch is classical to the middle school environment then there's the bystanders and then the guys that actually stand up for the "bullied?" yet its turned around on the guy trying to do right and the bully is now the center of attention.. and during all this the principle is never present.

Well put Mr Beck. Ive noticed the same in both WC and here in the forums.......it gets really tough at times to figure out between the grown adult vets, and the child like noobs that wander into DF. So often, they all act the same....

Your right sir Becken, even if your a bit over stating some parts. I think for the most part this game and the players handle there self quite well most times. I don't play any other games, never have so my opinion is somewhat limited.
My boy, Jr plays from time to time and has commented many times how nice everyone is and respectful. He's young, same age age you younger brother. His comments, after hearing them a few times made me want to know by what curve he was grading us on so I checked out the games he plays regularly.

Mind you he is a gammer in every possible definition. He has been playing about 4 games pretty regularly for about 2 years dependent on grades and. Completed chores. He, by anyone's standered skilled at gaming and plays on top levels of the games he play.
So I thought I would sit in on a few of his games and see why DF received such compliments. Here's what I learned:


Ears really can bleed!!! And I'm sure the conversations I was witness to, the participants do have mothers, they must!! Hopefully they aren't kissing there moms with that mouth!!! I learned many new words which I won't revival here due to the fact its not what's important and the simple fact that typing them may be impossible. I found that most potty mouthed players were teens, not all but the majority. The way they communicate there opinion of others way of play is shocking and most always negative, disrespectful, berating and never ending. As though its a tactic for play.

Granted some are more harsh then others but in the end all poor example of how one should interact with others. Some were so shocking he no longer owns the games.

I have been here 2 years, played every player that's come through in that time if they were around long enough. Been on forum for almost the same time, bit less. We as a community have grown and evolved over time. We have had our moments of shame true mind you few, but none the less they have and do happen. I think you are focusing on just a few of the threads and post certainly not the majority. Same could be said of the players.

For my brief walk on the wild side, and how it compairs to here we are all eligible for saint hood. The banter in game WC and on forum is for the most part in fun and gameily respectful of players. Yes there are those who have at times gone far to far, but they are the rare and not the common. Cussing isn't what I'd say I endorse, but they're isn't anythin going on here that should be seen offensive. Banter is a part of this game, and help make it the addictive game DF is. We are from so many parts of the world with different ideas of right or wrong beliefs and ways one should act that its enevitable that we will have disagreements regarding certain issues. Its unavoidable, but for the most part really doesn't happen.

From what I've seen this is an awesome community with true friends and friendships happening all the time. Supportive and friendly of others and respectful of the others that fly these sky's. I'm glad to be apart of this place and the game, I do enjoy it as a whole.

Your slitting hairs and focusing on the not so great things that do at times happen, in doing so your unfortunately missing out on some real cool people and damn fine decent folks who wouldn't hesitate to include you or anyone else in there goings on here.
Its been far to many years for me to recall middle school but I do know what your saying, and your right it does happen, just not as you would have people believe.
I personally tell all my friends and even folks a barely know about DF and record end it to anyone who may be interested to play a multi player game.....


Maybe Sir your looking at it too harshly and critical. Give the people the due they deserve and don't get caught up in the drama and I think you'll see we are pretty good people who deserve a bit more credit then what your willing to give.....

Any way, I do truly hope all who play this game get the enjoyment out of it that it offers.

Good thread Professors B.

Excellent rebuttal, Sir Rap.

I have played a few online multi-player games and I have participated in a few online forums. Dogfight is far and away the "cleanest" game environment I have ever seen. Sure we have occasional dirt bags who will spew worthless profanity but they are usually gone pretty quickly. Heck, I've seen more prolific filth on a chess loby. The "normal banter" on the Xbox games that I've seen is often like an entire team of the foulest players ever on dogfight in the 1 1/2 years that I've been playing.

There was some really bad stuff for a while before world / game-chat had the profanity filters but since they have been enabled things cleaned up dramatically. Just check out the in-game names of other multi players and you may notice a much cleaner atmosphere here in Gretchland.

As for the forum? Similar language shows up on some of the "professional" but open forums I've seen. Sometimes it takes a bit for a moderator to catch it. There is usually a warning then a ban if the offending user won't clean it up, just like here.

Are there any game sites with chat that are cleaner than Dogfight? The only ones I've seen are where people are limited to a drop down selection of things they can post.

"Let's go!"
"Cover me!"
"Form up!"
"Wait for me!"
"Attack!"

Lol.

Oh yea, what about...

"Good job!"

I don't know what kind of games yall playing but people on df argue like a bunch of middle schoolers. It's cleaner to play call of duty and halo over this.

References- i just prestiged in call of duty

I must say, well done Raptor and McFate. You both certainly shed further lite on the matter. And the bottom line truly is, there isnt a whole lot that can, or ever will be done about it. The bad eggs will come, and typically they will go when they get bored. So, all we can hope is what remains in the end is all the great people, like the three of you, and DF lives on.

I for one take blame in loosing my own civilized self into a rage induced snap, but you cant blame me for that.
You cant help any one if you cant do it in a kind matter, but instead some one had to make a scene, I forgive them for what they did because it was what they thought was right, and I cant blame some one for cutting my head off over gloating, but as at lease with the right of passing, or fitting in, I just follows by your set examples with the thought of being more easily welcomed, in my county, guests are pranked and such with little jokes, first impressions on a new person is how well they can handle a good prank.
Like a big mug full of beer, but the mug is cast iron and screwed to the table.
And if they take it well its respect, if they dont well the boot to you.
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

Yellow1Blaze wrote: ...
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

This makes a lot of sense, and you communicated it very clearly. Thank you for that. I respect your reasons, and your adjustment. I will adjust as well.

I apologize for my wisecracks. I myself was responding to the regular stream of spammers, gloats, and general imbeciles that have peppered the forum through the years (small in percentage, but significant in number to make the forum an occasional chore to follow). Clearly you do not intend to be one of them, and I am sorry for assuming that your early posts indicated that you were. I look forward to future forum exchanges with you.

I also look forward to seeing you in-game, for that is (mostly) why we are here. Is your in-game name Yellowblaze now? Mine is...

Manfred

P.S. By the way, we are not all Americans here. But I suppose much noise is generated by us 'mericans.

Yellow1Blaze wrote: I for one take blame in loosing my own civilized self into a rage induced snap, but you cant blame me for that.
You cant help any one if you cant do it in a kind matter, but instead some one had to make a scene, I forgive them for what they did because it was what they thought was right, and I cant blame some one for cutting my head off over gloating, but as at lease with the right of passing, or fitting in, I just follows by your set examples with the thought of being more easily welcomed, in my county, guests are pranked and such with little jokes, first impressions on a new person is how well they can handle a good prank.
Like a big mug full of beer, but the mug is cast iron and screwed to the table.
And if they take it well its respect, if they dont well the boot to you.
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

Good answer sir. I wish I could say that I haven't been in a few scrapes around here myself, but as a regular shithouse (got that Becken?) lawyer, I get carried away more than I would like.

So far, we've seen little bursts of your sense of humor, and I for one have enjoyed it. I think you'll do ok here... Just don't create a lot of miscellaneous topics as that seems to be the fastest way to piss the whole world off. Like Manfred said, we've had our share of nimrods who have come in and quickly become infamous that way.

Chin up, and stop by for a drink. Any favorite German beers? We'll make sure to keep a few on tap for you.

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote: I for one take blame in loosing my own civilized self into a rage induced snap, but you cant blame me for that.
You cant help any one if you cant do it in a kind matter, but instead some one had to make a scene, I forgive them for what they did because it was what they thought was right, and I cant blame some one for cutting my head off over gloating, but as at lease with the right of passing, or fitting in, I just follows by your set examples with the thought of being more easily welcomed, in my county, guests are pranked and such with little jokes, first impressions on a new person is how well they can handle a good prank.
Like a big mug full of beer, but the mug is cast iron and screwed to the table.
And if they take it well its respect, if they dont well the boot to you.
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

Good answer sir. I wish I could say that I haven't been in a few scrapes around here myself, but as a regular shithouse (got that Becken?) lawyer, I get carried away more than I would like.

So far, we've seen little bursts of your sense of humor, and I for one have enjoyed it. I think you'll do ok here... Just don't create a lot of miscellaneous topics as that seems to be the fastest way to piss the whole world off. Like Manfred said, we've had our share of nimrods who have come in and quickly become infamous that way.

Chin up, and stop by for a drink. Any favorite German beers? We'll make sure to keep a few on tap for you.

let me come clean, I dont drink, the last time I had a beer was a shitty day after, one to many, so I vowed to never drink unless its to a toast, because its just one glass, not 14 mugs

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote: I for one take blame in loosing my own civilized self into a rage induced snap, but you cant blame me for that.
You cant help any one if you cant do it in a kind matter, but instead some one had to make a scene, I forgive them for what they did because it was what they thought was right, and I cant blame some one for cutting my head off over gloating, but as at lease with the right of passing, or fitting in, I just follows by your set examples with the thought of being more easily welcomed, in my county, guests are pranked and such with little jokes, first impressions on a new person is how well they can handle a good prank.
Like a big mug full of beer, but the mug is cast iron and screwed to the table.
And if they take it well its respect, if they dont well the boot to you.
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

Good answer sir. I wish I could say that I haven't been in a few scrapes around here myself, but as a regular shithouse (got that Becken?) lawyer, I get carried away more than I would like.

So far, we've seen little bursts of your sense of humor, and I for one have enjoyed it. I think you'll do ok here... Just don't create a lot of miscellaneous topics as that seems to be the fastest way to piss the whole world off. Like Manfred said, we've had our share of nimrods who have come in and quickly become infamous that way.

Chin up, and stop by for a drink. Any favorite German beers? We'll make sure to keep a few on tap for you.

let me come clean, I dont drink, the last time I had a beer was a shitty day after, one to many, so I vowed to never drink unless its to a toast, because its just one glass, not 14 mugs

Let me come clean too, I don't drink either. I've limited myself for years to an occasional beer with a nice meal. Now I have a neurological disease that is negatively affected by Alchohol. My drinking days are done. I can assure you though, you can virtually drink like a fish in our virtual bar, and your health will be completely unaffected. Plus, being a virtual bar, we can get you anything you virtually want. Feel free to virtually indulge. We are a bar for the atmosphere, not the booze.

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote: I for one take blame in loosing my own civilized self into a rage induced snap, but you cant blame me for that.
You cant help any one if you cant do it in a kind matter, but instead some one had to make a scene, I forgive them for what they did because it was what they thought was right, and I cant blame some one for cutting my head off over gloating, but as at lease with the right of passing, or fitting in, I just follows by your set examples with the thought of being more easily welcomed, in my county, guests are pranked and such with little jokes, first impressions on a new person is how well they can handle a good prank.
Like a big mug full of beer, but the mug is cast iron and screwed to the table.
And if they take it well its respect, if they dont well the boot to you.
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

Good answer sir. I wish I could say that I haven't been in a few scrapes around here myself, but as a regular shithouse (got that Becken?) lawyer, I get carried away more than I would like.

So far, we've seen little bursts of your sense of humor, and I for one have enjoyed it. I think you'll do ok here... Just don't create a lot of miscellaneous topics as that seems to be the fastest way to piss the whole world off. Like Manfred said, we've had our share of nimrods who have come in and quickly become infamous that way.

Chin up, and stop by for a drink. Any favorite German beers? We'll make sure to keep a few on tap for you.

let me come clean, I dont drink, the last time I had a beer was a shitty day after, one to many, so I vowed to never drink unless its to a toast, because its just one glass, not 14 mugs

Let me come clean too, I don't drink either. I've limited myself for years to an occasional beer with a nice meal. Now I have a neurological disease that is negatively affected by Alchohol. My drinking days are done. I can assure you though, you can virtually drink like a fish in our virtual bar, and your health will be completely unaffected. Plus, being a virtual bar, we can get you anything you virtually want. Feel free to virtually indulge. We are a bar for the atmosphere, not the booze.

thats like saying watching internet porn doesnt make you a perv, its not real so have whatever you want.
If you truly want to break a bad habit, don't sub due to buying playboys, stop it completly.
What I mean is, real or not, its all bad right?

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote: I for one take blame in loosing my own civilized self into a rage induced snap, but you cant blame me for that.
You cant help any one if you cant do it in a kind matter, but instead some one had to make a scene, I forgive them for what they did because it was what they thought was right, and I cant blame some one for cutting my head off over gloating, but as at lease with the right of passing, or fitting in, I just follows by your set examples with the thought of being more easily welcomed, in my county, guests are pranked and such with little jokes, first impressions on a new person is how well they can handle a good prank.
Like a big mug full of beer, but the mug is cast iron and screwed to the table.
And if they take it well its respect, if they dont well the boot to you.
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

Good answer sir. I wish I could say that I haven't been in a few scrapes around here myself, but as a regular shithouse (got that Becken?) lawyer, I get carried away more than I would like.

So far, we've seen little bursts of your sense of humor, and I for one have enjoyed it. I think you'll do ok here... Just don't create a lot of miscellaneous topics as that seems to be the fastest way to piss the whole world off. Like Manfred said, we've had our share of nimrods who have come in and quickly become infamous that way.

Chin up, and stop by for a drink. Any favorite German beers? We'll make sure to keep a few on tap for you.

let me come clean, I dont drink, the last time I had a beer was a shitty day after, one to many, so I vowed to never drink unless its to a toast, because its just one glass, not 14 mugs

Let me come clean too, I don't drink either. I've limited myself for years to an occasional beer with a nice meal. Now I have a neurological disease that is negatively affected by Alchohol. My drinking days are done. I can assure you though, you can virtually drink like a fish in our virtual bar, and your health will be completely unaffected. Plus, being a virtual bar, we can get you anything you virtually want. Feel free to virtually indulge. We are a bar for the atmosphere, not the booze.

thats like saying watching internet porn doesnt make you a perv, its not real so have whatever you want.
If you truly want to break a bad habit, don't sub due to buying playboys, stop it completly.
What I mean is, real or not, its all bad right?

I don't have a moral thing against Alchohol when consumed in moderation. We also have over time had discussions about the real dangers of it all both on the JR thread, and some more sobering ones too. But hey, if our place isn't your thing, we sure won't twist your arm trying to get you in there.

See you around...

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote: I for one take blame in loosing my own civilized self into a rage induced snap, but you cant blame me for that.
You cant help any one if you cant do it in a kind matter, but instead some one had to make a scene, I forgive them for what they did because it was what they thought was right, and I cant blame some one for cutting my head off over gloating, but as at lease with the right of passing, or fitting in, I just follows by your set examples with the thought of being more easily welcomed, in my county, guests are pranked and such with little jokes, first impressions on a new person is how well they can handle a good prank.
Like a big mug full of beer, but the mug is cast iron and screwed to the table.
And if they take it well its respect, if they dont well the boot to you.
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

Good answer sir. I wish I could say that I haven't been in a few scrapes around here myself, but as a regular shithouse (got that Becken?) lawyer, I get carried away more than I would like.

So far, we've seen little bursts of your sense of humor, and I for one have enjoyed it. I think you'll do ok here... Just don't create a lot of miscellaneous topics as that seems to be the fastest way to piss the whole world off. Like Manfred said, we've had our share of nimrods who have come in and quickly become infamous that way.

Chin up, and stop by for a drink. Any favorite German beers? We'll make sure to keep a few on tap for you.

let me come clean, I dont drink, the last time I had a beer was a shitty day after, one to many, so I vowed to never drink unless its to a toast, because its just one glass, not 14 mugs

Let me come clean too, I don't drink either. I've limited myself for years to an occasional beer with a nice meal. Now I have a neurological disease that is negatively affected by Alchohol. My drinking days are done. I can assure you though, you can virtually drink like a fish in our virtual bar, and your health will be completely unaffected. Plus, being a virtual bar, we can get you anything you virtually want. Feel free to virtually indulge. We are a bar for the atmosphere, not the booze.

thats like saying watching internet porn doesnt make you a perv, its not real so have whatever you want.
If you truly want to break a bad habit, don't sub due to buying playboys, stop it completly.
What I mean is, real or not, its all bad right?

I don't have a moral thing against Alcohol when consumed in moderation. We also have over time had discussions about the real dangers of it all both on the JR thread, and some more sobering ones too. But hey, if our place isn't your thing, we sure won't twist your arm trying to get you in there.

See you around...

What you think a German, would pass up on a cold one because he wants to try to sober up, sober up in my country means drink yourself dead on your birthday, and Christmas, and saint padds day, even though I'm not Irish, walking out on the jolly roger is like me burning my rubber beer mug, it blasphemy I tell you, as long as the beer is good, ill pay well for a good beer, hell if it surprises me, ill pay double the price for one because it was so good, ive done this on many times.

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote:

jacklpe wrote:

Yellow1Blaze wrote: I for one take blame in loosing my own civilized self into a rage induced snap, but you cant blame me for that.
You cant help any one if you cant do it in a kind matter, but instead some one had to make a scene, I forgive them for what they did because it was what they thought was right, and I cant blame some one for cutting my head off over gloating, but as at lease with the right of passing, or fitting in, I just follows by your set examples with the thought of being more easily welcomed, in my county, guests are pranked and such with little jokes, first impressions on a new person is how well they can handle a good prank.
Like a big mug full of beer, but the mug is cast iron and screwed to the table.
And if they take it well its respect, if they dont well the boot to you.
But when it comes to Americans, its different, and I was ignorant to that, I didn't know any better so I followed by an example set by every one else.
Im SORRY for being a gloat, but I didn't know how better else to fit in with a bunch of Americans, even though an adult, I follow by examples set by people, that arnt me, so attempt to fit in.
So there will be a big change on my part to fit your part.
But that doesn't mean im the only one who should change, DF forum people, you must change in the way you react to people who like I did, come onto the forum kicking the door down, with less, WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU F**KING MORON!, and more of a kinder under standing point, so the person you wish to receive the point gets it.
I apologize for my actions, I will change, and I accept your apology as well.

Good answer sir. I wish I could say that I haven't been in a few scrapes around here myself, but as a regular shithouse (got that Becken?) lawyer, I get carried away more than I would like.

So far, we've seen little bursts of your sense of humor, and I for one have enjoyed it. I think you'll do ok here... Just don't create a lot of miscellaneous topics as that seems to be the fastest way to piss the whole world off. Like Manfred said, we've had our share of nimrods who have come in and quickly become infamous that way.

Chin up, and stop by for a drink. Any favorite German beers? We'll make sure to keep a few on tap for you.

let me come clean, I dont drink, the last time I had a beer was a shitty day after, one to many, so I vowed to never drink unless its to a toast, because its just one glass, not 14 mugs

Let me come clean too, I don't drink either. I've limited myself for years to an occasional beer with a nice meal. Now I have a neurological disease that is negatively affected by Alchohol. My drinking days are done. I can assure you though, you can virtually drink like a fish in our virtual bar, and your health will be completely unaffected. Plus, being a virtual bar, we can get you anything you virtually want. Feel free to virtually indulge. We are a bar for the atmosphere, not the booze.

thats like saying watching internet porn doesnt make you a perv, its not real so have whatever you want.
If you truly want to break a bad habit, don't sub due to buying playboys, stop it completly.
What I mean is, real or not, its all bad right?

I don't have a moral thing against Alcohol when consumed in moderation. We also have over time had discussions about the real dangers of it all both on the JR thread, and some more sobering ones too. But hey, if our place isn't your thing, we sure won't twist your arm trying to get you in there.

See you around...

What you think a German, would pass up on a cold one because he wants to try to sober up, sober up in my country means drink yourself dead on your birthday, and Christmas, and saint padds day, even though I'm not Irish, walking out on the jolly roger is like me burning my rubber beer mug, it blasphemy I tell you, as long as the beer is good, ill pay well for a good beer, hell if it surprises me, ill pay double the price for one because it was so good, ive done this on many times.

Well ok then. We'll see you around. And, like I said, if you have any favorites that we don't stock, ask. We are very good at procuring things.

McFate wrote: Just for the record:

WTF? = Why the fuss?

STFU = Southern Tennant Farmers Union.

I had accidentally shot a blue in a ctc game.
I said "sorry"

But he said NP!

NP !

I've never been called a

Nincom Poop!

That is what NP means right?
Lol

gj beck u always honest keep it up

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Yeah real shame.... Part of why I (Tinny) left the game, but I miss you all so much I came back for ya guys!

I think this thread is one sided sure the common troller is of teen age but the worst are the adults first off some adults get drunk and come on world chat like rat tat tat I like the guy but he was a drunk so as I said this thread is one siided