Stuart wrote: Just played a game with MORAF. He was using an external device to avoid getting shot.

Plane jerking back and forth to avoid getting shot. Excessive speed to avoid getting shot.

Impossible to shoot.

They naturally won game.

Continued use of those devices will destroy games credibility.

For your information...

Stuart, what do you fail to understand about lag? Why on earth do you think that we all use it as an excuse for everything?

Please read, think about it, reread and rethink about it.

(Source, wiki) All online video games, especially fast paced worldwide games such as Counter-Strike, incur online lag due to a combination of local and remote processing lag and communications latency, and user tolerance for lag depends highly upon the type of game, similarly as it does for local gaming.[5] In general parlance, the round-trip network latency between a client game and the host server is referred to as the client's ping time.[3]

Reducing lag in online gaming[edit]
Lag can simply occur due to the distance between the game server and the player. Low quality or high congested connection can lead to a higher ping. However there are some factors that we can change easily to reduce the ping. Those information can be found in the game forums and web sites all around internet. Simple cases like heating can result in high ping.[6] Above reference talk about few main ways to reduce lag as listed below Disable all automatic updates Stop applications that need continues internet connection Exit your browser, even you don’t browse that can eat up you bandwidth Use the “Resource monitor” to identify the processes that use the network.

Now do us all a favour and stop moaning about lag related issues....PLEASE?

Hi guys, let me add something if I may. I know that lag exists in every game and that it's frustrating. But lately I've seen a few that are flying straight and pretty until you fire at them, when that happens they seem to have the ability to skip a lot. It appears to me to be a controlled skip.

Also if you fly well above looking down it gives you a much better view.

I may be wrong, I don't know. I still love the game and will continue playing. I just consider it to be another challenge to overcome.

Stuart, here's the deal. I've told lots of people this, and I'm gonna tell you again.
I'm a lagger. If you played me, you would probably blacklist me. But here's the deal.
I live in a village with five hundred people. Five miles away is the town with about 10,000. The main frontier internet thingy is in the town. This is in Wisconsin though, so the brutal winter somehow damaged the cables, making everyone's internet frustratingly unreliable. I'll enter a game with my internet going great, start to lag, fall three minutes behind, and then everyone will go light speed, I'll have gotten killed four times and still bombed.
Don't worry, Frontier is coming to fix that, eventually... But until then, realize that guys like Jackalope travel the country, using whatever crappy internet is available

You are absolutely correct MAC MCMASTER, my brother works for Comcast and has told me that also. He upgraded my internet to business which I believed helped. Recently when we had a ton of ice and snow it really affected the game here.

However given all that I still believe that there is some controlled lagging going on but only by a few. It doesn't change my opinion on playing though, I love this game with or without the lag.

Im in tn like you davy and im wondering about this cause I played a game and shot guy 20 times easy and nothing did it again same guy 20 to 30 more rounds nothing but everyone else in the game could be shot just this one guy???really weird and ive learned if theres a way to cheat at anything you better believe someones doing it...oh well

It happened to me too.....ive shot people many times but they dissapear and appear behind me.....and ill be like "ooh what sorcery!?" But honestly I can't dodge them too....they r very fast and also the funny thing is there was this guy who like shot me down and wlhe was in the first plane u get...u know the one with the backwards propeller..and I'm using the redbarons Fokker...he I shot him like 10 rounds he ddnt die.....he disappeared and appeared behind me and boom....im down....I just couldn't shoot him down but i could shoot others.....i believe he was called Ape or something....

Without knowing much, I put that on lag or poor connexion ...
I am certainly wrong as I am not an internet or computer expert.
Do not know, but i keep playing.
Even with these troubles, with courage, talent, i know that the best of the dogfight's players that we all knows, will always take advantage of that and do their best to win with their skill only ...
That's one of the thing i love in this game.

P.S. sorry as it has already been mentionned on the forum, but Padme, your banner is very very very beautifull ...

I cannot imagine a Crockett or Hulk break down by an "external device".

Human skill and training will always win on all.

May be this kind of cheaters, if they do exist are the UFOs studied by Sir Davy.

I have no doubt about who will win the final combat.

One of the reasons I am so successful is because I invented a devise called the XML -879.

Once installed it transmit specials radio waves along the cable lines that clears the way for your internet lines to be free and clear of all lag issues.

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Hey guys and girls my friend is a hacker and a real good one he's hired by company's to stop hackers from getting in. Now he's plays alot of games and yes he has a lag switch on his device. I asked him about it one day and he showed me what it does he loaded dog fight. Into his device and I watched just what it does he was flying normal until shot at and he hit the switch his plane started to skip and he could not be shot. It wont make you disappear or anything else that's just lag so I've seen what it does first hand. You can pick them out easy so far I've counted about seven guys using it. It very distinct if you have played for awhile you can tell the difference between lag and a switch. And just so you know I will not use one that's just low. And my friend does not play dog fight just so you know

I believe you are correct. Most all it is just lag with the exception of a few. I'm no whiz on a computer but my brother is. He's convince that there are at least a few and he gives a lot of consulting on computers.

Well having done some research into the phenomena as well as consulting my psychic I have determined that there ARE lag switches being used by some players..

With that being said, just be aware as with ANY online multi-player game you WILL have players that cheat! They don't have either the skills or the willpower to try and improve their skills so they can be competitive.. so they just cheat.

There are many different ways of doing it other than just using a physical 'lag switch'. There are electronic 'hacks' for various devices (including android) that allow a player to lag on demand &/or 'flood' a game.
Don't automatically assume however it's a hack if you see a player lagging.. however, if the ONLY TIME you see them do this is just as you start shooting at them? ..well that might be a clue.

Also, those 'bulletproof' players? You guys know the ones I speak of.. it's always the same ones.. well I am pretty positive (after reading some interesting posts in forums on other game sites while researching this) that they are using an actual device/coding hack that accepts the 'hits' that is received on their planes from your bullets but doesn't return the message that they were received. There is supposedly a limit on this though that is directly related to how large the memory in their device is!
Whether or not it's true that some players we all know that are bulletproof are using this is unclear... but I do admit there are perhaps some players that will exhibit this phenomena yet MAY be innocent.. but really.. can you really NOT KNOW your plane is being peppered with rounds and yet you're not dying?!?

Well Stuart the protect/shoot the zep mission is inherently laggy on it's own and NOT caused by players cheating. It's caused by other factors including the zep itself as well as counting the hits on the zep, and the zep moving along a planned route. It's similar to the lag that occurred awhile back with the train.. (I wasn't here back then but it's well documented in old forum posts) The train itself caused the lag! So zuperman removed it from the game.

I have always thought the idea that someone had of having 2 zeppelins going in opposite directions in that mission would be great.. you would have to both attack AND defend a zep.. but imagine a zep mission with TWICE THE LAG?

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