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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174571

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All right. The dropping argument has been raging for over a year. Players like ZebraUp and Ziza, fiercely defend the practice, as they expert turn-fighters. Players like Darraxx and I are against it, being mainly head-on fighters. To quote the greatest fictional work of all time, "it appears we are at an impasse."
So here's the solution. When you enter a bombing mission, type this little message into the message box: "U guys Ok w/ dropping/sneaking?"
For droppers, If they are, yay! If they aren't, find another game.
For head-on bombers, if they aren't, yay! If they are, move on. Simple as that.
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P.s. If anyone starts a dropping argument on this thread, I swear to gawd I will blacklist you.
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174572

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Is this good enough for you Pedrinho? Or am I still "defecating" the rules?
You're getting predictable, guys. You can do better, right?

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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174595

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I'm going to make the argument that you are posting WAY too muchstuff in general and that your topics on dropping and dogfights is getting old and filling space on forum. It is also not nice to threaten others with blacklasting and such although I am guilty of having used that before. No offense intended but I think you need to go to the jollyroger and have this discussion in the bar with a nice cold one. ;) tone down the rhetoric Mac. Please.
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174611

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Mac... If Ped's wording doesn't live up to your grammatical standards, try answering him in Portuguese. Until then, say what you have to say and be done with it.

Oh yea, if you don't like droppers, sneakers, or anything else here, I highly recommend that you create and market your own game where these practices are impossible. Maybe you can call it "Bomber". Until then, I say you probably should abandon this argument and defer to your favorite moderator if you feel as you are being mistreated here.

If you continue to act aggressively towards Pedrinho, or any other long time upstanding players, you will find that I am much more unpleasant than anyone you have encountered so far. We look out for each other here, and although we disagree on many things, on one thing we don't... You will treat others here with kindness and respect. If you disagree with them, you will do so with kindness and respect. If you cannot conduct yourself with kindness and respect, you will most likely be wise to find another place to spend your time.

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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174613

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Congress wrote: I'm going to make the argument that you are posting WAY too muchstuff in general and that your topics on dropping and dogfights is getting old and filling space on forum. It is also not nice to threaten others with blacklasting and such although I am guilty of having used that before. No offense intended but I think you need to go to the jollyroger and have this discussion in the bar with a nice cold one. ;) tone down the rhetoric Mac. Please.


Until he straightens up, I don't want him.


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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174614

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Congress wrote: I'm going to make the argument that you are posting WAY too muchstuff in general and that your topics on dropping and dogfights is getting old and filling space on forum. It is also not nice to threaten others with blacklasting and such although I am guilty of having used that before. No offense intended but I think you need to go to the jollyroger and have this discussion in the bar with a nice cold one. ;) tone down the rhetoric Mac. Please.


Until he straightens up, I don't want him.


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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174635

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Mac McMaster wrote: All right. The dropping argument has been raging for over a year. Players like ZebraUp and Ziza, fiercely defend the practice, as they expert turn-fighters. Players like Darraxx and I are against it, being mainly head-on fighters. To quote the greatest fictional work of all time, "it appears we are at an impasse."
So here's the solution. When you enter a bombing mission, type this little message into the message box: "U guys Ok w/ dropping/sneaking?"
For droppers, If they are, yay! If they aren't, find another game.
For head-on bombers, if they aren't, yay! If they are, move on. Simple as that.
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If anyone starts a dropping argument on this thread, I swear to gawd I will blacklist you.
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Is this good enough for you Pedrinho? Or am I still "defecating" the rules?


No, it is not good enough for me. I don't feel in need to ask other players ingame if I should or if I should not to drop MY bomb. I do it when I want, when I feel that it is needed according to the situation (of course, when my teammates asks me ingame to drop or to carry it due to the circumstances, I do what they ask). Otherwise, it is simply not of other's business if one decides to carry or not, if one decides to sneak or not.

And yes, you are still defecating rules, since you don't suggest "a" solution, you proudly "ANNOUNCES THE SOLUTION", and since you don't "ask" - instead, you TELL people to type some BS everytime they enter a mission... How petulant.

And although I don't know who Gawd is, feel free to blacklist me - my name is already there... B)
(I know, Swop, I know... I love you, friend - just used it to make a joke ;)

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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174637

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I been playing this game for a year and a half and they have always been droppers and sneakers. What you need to learn to do with these problems is the same thing us old timers have done...Deal With It


Think you're going Crazy? Great! When you get there look me up and I'll show you around.
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174638

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And whilst you're at it, blacklist me too coz I'm with Ped on this.....
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174663

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lol.. :silly: .oh brother Ped u got to bring up something I apologized for and you accepted...you know I asked you to be removed from that "place"...and I dont know what "who Gawd is" has to do with the Blacklist. I dont think anyone has put anyone into the Blacklist for "not knowing who Gawd is" or anyone placed into the Goldlist "for knowing who Gawd is". :P ;) :cheer: :dry:

(I know Ped...u were joking....and BTW....from our PM's....I think you might be surprised at how much you "know" my friend.....thank you for saying you were praying for me awhile back and as you know feel free to PM me anytime. Your a good friend ;) )
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174710

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Lol Swop, Its not about bringing it up, its about taking an oportinity to make a joke, you know that you didnt even need to appologise, you did the right thing - I am the guy who needed to explain some weird and unnexpected behavior, and even so I laughed (and still laugh today) about that thing. And you know you are on my best-guys-list.
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174725

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I will post this just for the sake of arguing...

Droppers will drop
Sneakers will sneak

I will drop if I feel like it.
I will drop on tank if I feel like it.
I will even drop on planes if I feel like it.

I will not ask permission to drop my bomb
I will not ask permission to sneak

I will not ask others to ask permission to drop
I will not ask others to ask permission to sneak

All I will do is kill them...


Now, if you want to blacklist me, put me right up there! My opinion has gotten me in trouble before and if it does again, I DONT CARE!
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174729

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111|Royal Flush wrote: I will post this just for the sake of arguing...

Droppers will drop
Sneakers will sneak

I will drop if I feel like it.
I will drop on tank if I feel like it.
I will even drop on planes if I feel like it.

I will not ask permission to drop my bomb
I will not ask permission to sneak

I will not ask others to ask permission to drop
I will not ask others to ask permission to sneak

All I will do is kill them...


Now, if you want to blacklist me, put me right up there! My opinion has gotten me in trouble before and if it does again, I DONT CARE!

you are just one of literally EVERYBODY who failed to realize that the blacklist line was sarcasm. I'm not telling anyone to ask permission, I'm asking people to be corteous and selflessly conscious of other people's opinions, or at least warn them in order to eliminate the pointless argument that we are all so obviously tired of. I formally apologize for attempting to discover a solution, and if amyone has another realistic idea to appease both sides, i will be the first to applaud you.
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174862

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Ped, thank you for being understanding. As you can see, I understood it was a joke on your previous post..and even gave a joke back in return...yeah!!! :) ..

You are a good friend..

BTW, I miss all the cartoons you do....its been awhile since you posted some...How about doing a "Dogfight cartoon thread" in gossip section?....You are an amazing cartoonist. :cheer:
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174864

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Mac, were you not the one who started many of these arguments in the first place? You make it sound like you've been a voice of neutrality all this time.

Your pointless sarcasm and conceited way of speaking is what's getting people upset. Slow down on the posts and contribute to conversations/topics, in a positive way.

Let's assume that anything about dropping/bombing/whatever is not a positive topic.
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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174883

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Hey all

I talked with Mac about this. He understands now how hes posting a little too much and he personally told me that he would tone it down. So lets get passed this and move on as friends :)

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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #174921

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Luna, you can put the skillet (and the sawed off that's under your coat :evil: ) back under the bar for now I think. I believe he's trying to reform. I received a couple of very positive PMs from Mac yesterday, and he seems like he is catching on.


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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #175019

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Jacklpe wrote: Luna, you can put the skillet (and the sawed off that's under your coat :evil: ) back under the bar for now I think. I believe he's trying to reform. I received a couple of very positive PMs from Mac yesterday, and he seems like he is catching on.



Amazingly I can imagine luna with a sawed off 4 gage. I think she should get one for her plane. It should help with large clusters of reds.

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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #175035

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Jacklpe wrote: Luna, you can put the skillet (and the sawed off that's under your coat :evil: ) back under the bar for now I think. I believe he's trying to reform. I received a couple of very positive PMs from Mac yesterday, and he seems like he is catching on.



Amazingly I can imagine luna with a sawed off 4 gage. I think she should get one for her plane. It should help with large clusters of reds.


maybe a grenade launcher too...and a flamethrower...and a missile station...and railguns...

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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #175079

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Royal Flush, you sound like a good future customer. Stop by the JR later, put a dime upside down on the bar, and ask for GreyGhost. We may have some inventory that will interest you.

Edit: never mind. Apparently Ghost is retiring. Anyway, come see me and we'll see what we can do.


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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #175083

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Jacklpe,

Did GreyGhost go to the JR? We haven't seen him now, he said he retired. Is he chilling out at the front counter?

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ENOUGH ARGUING IS ENOUGH! 11 years 5 months ago #175094

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@Luna topic
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