Hi there

For 4.4.38 I want to add dynamic lighting and shadows so I can work on day/night. This is a work in progress, 3 minutes, 3 days. It may not get published because it is still too slow on mobile, I'm working on speeding it up and maybe it is released. Like the idea or waste of time?

Hi Zup, as long as it didn't slow things down it could be interesting. Will the sun e high in the sky? If so it would allow you to fly with the sun behind you so the enemy have trouble seeing you.

It looks really cool. I would give the option to turn it on/off. Like the rest of the graphics settings. Most of us have the graphics settings all turned off to avoid glitching. I play on apple Ipad and I have to set graphics all off to play other wise the game isn't smooth running. I'm sure the PC version can handle the graphics.

I wouldn't say Waste of Time, but anything that puts significant bandwidth load on devices, network, or servers, may not be very productive right now. Many older devices seem to have a tough time with frame rate, and connection speed seems to constantly be at the limit for many. Reference Wig's latest feedback.

Even with the faster devices and connections, a simple tank fire can slow the game down to a crawl.

Manfred

Zup there has been a great idea posted on the "PARROT HAS A BRILLIANT IDEAL" thread. You may want to check in to it. It is a perfect proposition.

Zup,

I can't watch the video, but since you asked, here's my humble opinion on the most valuable upgrades.

1. Improving graphics impresses new players and gets them hooked on the game and increases your customer base. I get and appreciate that. More customers leads to more customers which leads to the eventual hope of viable profit. I want that for Echoboom. However, we still (& probably always will) have player that play on older devices. I fear that better graphics means slower speeds which means more lag. Lag for one seems to mean lag for all. Lag destroys the game. If the improvement can be made and it's not at the expense of process speeds, great!

2. One item that I think deserves attention more than visual affects is the lopsided games. I used to get frustrated when 4 noobs were pitted against 4 aces. Now I'm delighted when I just have more than 2 people on the same side. I spend a vast majority of the games I play switching sides to even the teams. Often this is unsuccessful and just as often, I manage to switch only for the side I switched to becoming the heavy side. This is MY top upgrade wish. Even team numbers if not actual even teams.

3. The second thing I wish for is a solution to the quit button problem.

I hope you realize my response is to your question and not an outright complaint. For me and my device, the game functions as good or better than it ever has since I started. I enjoy the enhancements and can't wait to see the new additions once the Apple update comes through. I appreciate the attention you give your customers and the effort you put into the game. The things listed above are observations, not criticism. Thanks for asking for our opinions.

Good lord y'all are quick. 4 or 5 replies in the time it took me to post mine. Sheesh.

Parrot we are going around in circles because I believe I already answered this not long ago.

Answers:
#1 from my own post "It may not get published because it is still too slow on mobile, I'm working on speeding it up and maybe it is released." So to make it clear, if it slows it down, it won't get published.

#2 and #3 I already replied on another post a while ago: they will be fixed in upcoming update. #2 cannot be fixed until everyone has 4.4.37 although you should already see that teams are way more balanced than before.

Very cool. Crashing in to own hangars not so good zup
It would make it challenging because it would be harder to see oncoming planes so i like. Sneak under the cover of darkness to enemy base

Instead of adding this stuff, can you PLEASE FIX THE MAJOR LAG? this lag thing is gettin so bad that I cant even play. My, Samsun galaxy 2 tab freezes up because of it.

zuperman wrote: Parrot we are going around in circles because I believe I already answered this not long ago.

Answers:
#1 from my own post "It may not get published because it is still too slow on mobile, I'm working on speeding it up and maybe it is released." So to make it clear, if it slows it down, it won't get published.

#2 and #3 I already replied on another post a while ago: they will be fixed in upcoming update. #2 cannot be fixed until everyone has 4.4.37 although you should already see that teams are way more balanced than before.

I patiently wait, sir. (Please don't read that, with my usual smartass tone)

greyhost lag is not something i can "fix". it depends also in your connection and on every single player connection.

If 2 guys connect from china, another from brasil, me from spain and you from usa... the data has to travel lot. My connection may be slow, you may have fast connection but brasil medium connection... you will see some of us moving correctly while others lagging badly.

I have no power whatsoever over other's people's connections. This is a common problem in all internet games although it is not so noticeable when they are slow games. This is very obviously only on fast flying/racing games.

The reason "zones" were added is so that you can pick ones that are more or less fast to you... but that's still not a very accurate predictor of lag because people seems to be connecting randomly.

zuperman wrote: #2 cannot be fixed until everyone has 4.4.37 although you should already see that teams are way more balanced than before.

Haven't seen it yet but maybe the majority of players are in iOS devices that haven't updated yet (I'm on Android). If it's true, it will address the most frustrating thing about the game.

Crossing my fingers that the Win8 phantom killers go away too. Those guys drive everyone else crazy.

I think people get confused with lag and device hang ups.
As much as i like the day night thingy and the lighting there is no chance that anyone using a nearly 4 year old ipad1 maybe even 2 will be able to cope with this.its a suprise they've managed so far.Definitely no 3g.So get asking Santa for a new pad and a good wireless connection.
My 2 month old device can probably cope as can my fast connection.It just can't deal with the annoying quit bug.Can't remember the last game i entered and stayed till the end.
Most players don't even have all the gfx settings set to max because of hang ups.

Zuppperman I like your idea but can you make it when the stages are at different days such as one stage is night and the other is at day and one stage the weather is windy and rainy and the other stage is snowy I see it on practice missions when it is snowing but in multiplayer it is not. But great update keep up the good work you are a great great game creator and I knew it will get even better we just got to wait and see what things will come up in the upcoming updates.

An option to sell old planes for xp or points would be great !"

most of the guyz like me get brought down because of bad planes.
So if we could sell our old plane for a some points or xp would be gr8.

That's a good idea to sell old planes real good suggestion atharvbhat

sgt.mo wrote: That's a good idea to sell old planes real good suggestion atharvbhay

THANX !!

I like the lighting idea. The game is beautiful especially with all of the graphics turned on. Unfortunately I have to turn off the clouds and detailed explosions or as I get strobe effect . The shadows and the landscape detail don't seem to make much difference for game performance but they do make it easier to tell where the ground is. It may be that the shadows provide some reference that may become less predictable if the sun constantly moves but I'll probably adapt without realizing it.

It could be possible to use the sun's position in a tactical way. Hmm. Bring it on!

just don't give an option to turn it off

you won't have an advantage if someone just turns it off

more over, the sun will stay on one side.
If its on our enemy's end then it will be unfair as they will have an advantage all the time.

Keeping it on sides will also not solve the problem as it will be advantageous for the team who has a carrier on that side.

Hence keeping it overhead is the best.

The night mode is awesome !
Keep it pitch black with periodic flashes of lightining.
Give a light to the planes to use it like a torch.
An option to turn it off would be great as enemy wont see us.
Also keep lights on runway , carriers and a search light that searches for enemies.

It will be fun !!

While it's true that limiting options to toggle effects on/off can ensure a universal dynamic to the game, the reality of play is that some folks have slower connections and devices, and some sort of local device optioning is needed to keep players from getting completely shut down by high bandwidth features. These must be options, IMO.
Manfred

And the carriers can have spotlights and the planes will have flashing red and green lights when it gets night.

This might be an off the wall question, but are all buildings able to be landed on? I enjoy doing that, and it makes great circusing; but since I do not have the update yet (grrrr apple) I was wondering...

BigC... leave no building... un-landed on.

They seem to have solid walls. I assume the roofs are sound.

M

Looks badass. I can't imagine tracers blazing past in the calm of the night during an epic battle.

Can't wait.

Fixing iPad 1 crashing on installation so I can play again is the only thing I care about. Sorry. The other stuff looks great, to be fair, but if I can't get into the game it's academic. I know I'm not the only one.

Cundall wrote: Fixing iPad 1 crashing on installation so I can play again is the only thing I care about. Sorry. The other stuff looks great, to be fair, but if I can't get into the game it's academic. I know I'm not the only one.

I understand your frustration ive had to update 4 different android devices over 2 years to play this game.
Im sorry to say that this game cannot stand still because someone wants to play with out of date technology. i mean 1ghz cpu and 256mb ram just doesnt cut the mustard anymore.

J4ff wrote:

Cundall wrote: Fixing iPad 1 crashing on installation so I can play again is the only thing I care about. Sorry. The other stuff looks great, to be fair, but if I can't get into the game it's academic. I know I'm not the only one.

I understand your frustration ive had to update 4 different android devices over 2 years to play this game.
Im sorry to say that this game cannot stand still because someone wants to play with out of date technology. i mean 1ghz cpu and 256mb ram just doesnt cut the mustard anymore.

Out of date? The device is less than three years old. I just don't have the kind of money to upgrade. The game is nothing without players.

guys, the game should work in all devices. iPad 1 is already very slow machine compared to the latest but it should work. They just had a bug on apple side that messed it up with their ios 7 release. It is fixed and it will work again as soon as they approve 4.4.37 on Apple.

The other thing is... you can turn off stuff on settings but the game also does it by itself. If you don't turn off settings, the game begins at full quality but if it detects it is going slow, it begins to remove shadows, then clouds, then changes the terrain, and so on... until it goes to a decent speed.

This way people that have no clue about settings, can still play and it works automatically in all devices. This also explains why some screenshots look cooler than others

btw i'm uploading 4.4.37 right now with a fix on android. It will show with the same version number but it will have 3 this:
1) The mission 7 was not allowing to bring down the zep
2) The quit button is gone, it will show only 'retry'
3) The new lighting system is there, if your phone supports it you will see nicer shadows and lights.