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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124193

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First i never dropped the bomb in the past, i would always just accept getting shot down while turning, that is why I always try to avoid a dogfight by getting them head on before they reached me. My plane is just to slow and i don't know why.

Tonight for the first time i had someone make it past me then he shot me down twice. ( he would not fight head-on, he would corkscrew) This time i dropped and shot him down, then again and again. He accused me of not carrying. I've never been accused of that before.

I told him i never drop unless forced into a dogfight. He whined like a dog wanting a bone. Look I don't care if you corkscrew but dont cry when someone has to adapt to make it fair for him. Im going to drop now when I enter a dogfight, why should i just accept getting shot down. I AM NOT A PERSON WHO DROPS ON TAKEOFF JUST TO CHASE AND FIGHT.

I LOVE THIS GAME, I LOVE THE FRIENDSHIPS, MOST OF YOU ALL ARE JUST FANTASTIC, I JUST NEVER LIKED WHINERS, YOU KNOW SK, DROPPING ECT ECT ECT. just enjoy the game, the friendships and fight, if you are in a really bad situation just make the best of it, laugh it off, finish out the game and then move on. sorry i had to rant.

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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124197

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Just curious, when Davy says "Drop 'em!" what comes down first, the pants or the bomb? :P

As there is no bombing goal in DF mission, I drop, and expect others to drop. The only time I hang onto a bomb is if there is someone spawning behind me. I can pull straight up on takeoff, and if he follows, my bomb release has some finite chance of hitting him or him hitting it. Sometimes I wheel around hard after takeoff to avoid a camper, and blind-dump the bomb as I cross back over the runway.

In either case, since I'm dumping a weapon, it might as well have some chance of running into a red target.

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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124198

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Im sorry i should have said it was a bomb the base. It does no good to drop but if someone wants to dogfight what choice do you have.

As for the pants or the bomb dropping first, IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION.

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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124209

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Oh I see. In Bomb the Base, I hang onto my bomb. EXCEPT when:

- The other guy drops his bomb
- The bomb is needed for a tank
- It's 6:1 against me and they're all arriving at my base

But if I drop, I go back to get another bomb when I've cleaned things up ;)

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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124212

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I agree with manfred 99% i do the same exact thing. I dont drop when im outnumbered unless its absolutely necessary. The bomb stabalizes my plane making head ons easier. But if i do drop i always return back to base unless bomners r starting a run and need cover.
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If I'm droppin', it's because the swarm is upon me and head-ons are long over!
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124216

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Well... I fell victim to, "can't beat em, join em". I now dump on dumpers. If they're dumping, I match and hunt. Even if I don't get them, I at least keep them busy so the teammates can continue with mission. And yes Davy, if they make it past the head to head, I'll usually dump to chase.

If I'm forced to dump, I no longer go back to reload. I see it as, "I had to dump to deal with you, now you gotta deal with me".

With the now common lopsided games, I'll also dump to defend.

I never dump while on offense, unless forced to as described above.
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124228

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Drop it like its hot. :)

Same as PH described.

If I see the spirial to avoid a head on its a dead give away they have no bomb. My bomb falls off when I see that and stays off. I don't even have to hit the button my plane and I are like the Hoff and Kit in Knight Rider, it just knows. If I see it happening I usually make it my mission to pin them down. Usually takes a while but most of them will split. If I have been camped on by a player and I see them again later on. Oops lost my bomb. Time to camp.

It's either drop or help them pad their stats. I think I will drop and make them work for it. Play to win.
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124239

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Since I'm only good at head on fights when I'm really mad about something(in game or out) I usually corkscrew but I hang on to the bomb unless I know that the other player dropped or I am outnumbered.

Also after bombing target I only stick around if they are teammates to protect. My goal is to return and reloaded but I will turn and fight if fired upon.
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I used to drop when i was outnumbered but some guys called me hurtful words and said i showed no pride and that i was a failure to the falcons. So ever sence then i fly with my bomb unless i lose it to a tank, forced dogfight, or a bombless starts chewing us up.
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124241

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I usually keep bomb in all cases and slow down so I can aim with more accuracy
Though like others if I'm out numbered or flying cover for teammates I'll drop that dead weight.
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124248

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Davy Crockett wrote: First i never dropped the bomb in the past, i would always just accept getting shot down while turning, that is why I always try to avoid a dogfight by getting them head on before they reached me. My plane is just to slow and i don't know why.

Tonight for the first time i had someone make it past me then he shot me down twice. ( he would not fight head-on, he would corkscrew) This time i dropped and shot him down, then again and again. He accused me of not carrying. I've never been accused of that before.

I told him i never drop unless forced into a dogfight. He whined like a dog wanting a bone. Look I don't care if you corkscrew but dont cry when someone has to adapt to make it fair for him. Im going to drop now when I enter a dogfight, why should i just accept getting shot down. I AM NOT A PERSON WHO DROPS ON TAKEOFF JUST TO CHASE AND FIGHT.

I LOVE THIS GAME, I LOVE THE FRIENDSHIPS, MOST OF YOU ALL ARE JUST FANTASTIC, I JUST NEVER LIKED WHINERS, YOU KNOW SK, DROPPING ECT ECT ECT. just enjoy the game, the friendships and fight, if you are in a really bad situation just make the best of it, laugh it off, finish out the game and then move on. sorry i had to rant.

Hey Davy don't sweat it. Everyone here knows how I "felt" about dropping to DF but then I noticed I was becoming the easy mark. They would drop and target me because I was easy, I was carrying bomb. Guess what... I'm not as easy as I used to be. If I hear a boom it's bombs away and I'm not stopping till I reach your front door.... We can bomb or we can DF its their call. So my friend dont sweat dropping now and then. I think even birdy birdy birdy even lets go now and then... Sorry if I'm wrong.
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124258

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in a BTB I only drop when:

1) I spawn with red over base, then I rearm before I head off

2) ... can't think and any other reason, I usually take them out in a head on or more likely spend a minute floating the the ground contemplating what when wrong.

It does annoy me when I'm flying towards the red base, bomb slowing me down, and then a teammate flies past at full speed, no bomb. I ask "how can we win if you don't have a bomb?", some lame answer about providing cover, as they disappear in front of me seeking glory and are dead before i get anywhere near a red plane.

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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124260

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My thought........
Bombers r not fighters, Fighters r not bombers.
U can't Defend properly at ure base If bombers heading u're way nor the fact that u can win the game without a bomb to take out there hangers.
So if u ask me i'll use my judgement and common sense as to when to keep the bomb or not. It's just part of the game.
U shouldn't be harsh on youreself if u drop for the purpose of the game.
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124272

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Blue Max Young wrote: Drop it like its hot. :)

Same as PH described.

If I see the spirial to avoid a head on its a dead give away they have no bomb. My bomb falls off when I see that and stays off. I don't even have to hit the button my plane and I are like the Hoff and Kit in Knight Rider, it just knows. If I see it happening I usually make it my mission to pin them down. Usually takes a while but most of them will split. If I have been camped on by a player and I see them again later on. Oops lost my bomb. Time to camp.

It's either drop or help them pad their stats. I think I will drop and make them work for it. Play to win.


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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124278

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Totally know what you guys are saying I've had this happen tons of times i just ignore them and let the cry :evil: Just shoot'em till they beg for mercy or they rage quit B)

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Hey ya all, thanks a lot for your insight, it was greatly appreciated.
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124313

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lol..i remember that game...ol boy bailed.

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Ms.sexy wrote: Totally know what you guys are saying I've had this happen tons of times i just ignore them and let the cry :evil: Just shoot'em till they beg for mercy or they rage quit B)


Very nice: spoken like someone who is not new to this game.

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What drives me crazy is someone who sneaks AND doesnt have a bomb. If you want to camp, at least be like Enzo and fight your way there!
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124494

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I've been holding through hell and high water for some time now. Trouble is my bomb button "sticks" more than 1/2 the time! I have to take my run at a group of 4 hangars the long way so I have a better chance of a lucky release. :pinch:

Any one else have this problem? I'm on a kindle fire HD.

Anyway, thanks for what you said Davy. I don't know why I care so much about what a bunch of whiners say. GET OVER IT! If someone drops it's their own business. If you can't figure out how it can be a tactical advantage for a team to have a chaser and bombers you are an unimaginative fool. If I keep carrying just so I don't offend someone who thinks they play the "right way" and so should everyone else then I'm the fool.

When teams can be designated we're going to see tactics evolve. Let's see who cries and keeps the same head on tactics (largely a contest of connection speed) and who wins games.
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Whosethisguy wrote:

Ms.sexy wrote: Totally know what you guys are saying I've had this happen tons of times i just ignore them and let the cry :evil: Just shoot'em till they beg for mercy or they rage quit B)


Very nice: spoken like someone who is not new to this game.

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McFate wrote: I've been holding through hell and high water for some time now. Trouble is my bomb button "sticks" more than 1/2 the time! I have to take my run at a group of 4 hangars the long way so I have a better chance of a lucky release. :pinch:

Any one else have this problem? I'm on a kindle fire HD.

Anyway, thanks for what you said Davy. I don't know why I care so much about what a bunch of whiners say. GET OVER IT! If someone drops it's their own business. If you can't figure out how it can be a tactical advantage for a team to have a chaser and bombers you are an unimaginative fool. If I keep carrying just so I don't offend someone who thinks they play the "right way" and so should everyone else then I'm the fool.

When teams can be designated we're going to see tactics evolve. Let's see who cries and keeps the same head on tactics (largely a contest of connection speed) and who wins games.
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You might have to lump me in with the foolish whiners...

I certainly see a strategic advantage for a team and I've already stated my approach above and other places. I still have no love for the guys that drop at the end of their runway EVERY time. You, I and they know who they are. If I see that from someone on my team, I'm leaving or switching. I'll not help somebody like that win.

If you choose to drop for a tactical reason, that's completely different than never carrying. With a few exceptions for those "extreme" dogfighters, it's clear their only goal is not team oriented. For those that play this game just for the chase, I would prefer they stick to the non-bombing games. I seldom play a FFA or CTC because I don't enjoy the endless chasing. It seems to me if the only thing you wanna do is chase, you could bow out of the bombing games like some do for the chase-filled games.
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While reading the various opinions which are interwoven through this thread, the only thing I could think about was this:






I am an ex-submarine sailor who has taken the battle to the sky.
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ParrotHead wrote:

McFate wrote: I've been holding through hell and high water for some time now. Trouble is my bomb button "sticks" more than 1/2 the time! I have to take my run at a group of 4 hangars the long way so I have a better chance of a lucky release. :pinch:

Any one else have this problem? I'm on a kindle fire HD. Yes it happens to me, I swing around try again, punch the button or I get out of plane and kick bomb loose.

Anyway, thanks for what you said Davy. I don't know why I care so much about what a bunch of whiners say. GET OVER IT! Oh My-That is a little harsh If someone drops it's their own business. If you can't figure out how it can be a tactical advantage for a team to have a chaser and bombers you are an unimaginative fool. ? If I keep carrying just so I don't offend someone who thinks they play the "right way" and so should everyone else then I'm the fool.

When teams can be designated we're going to see tactics evolve. Let's see who cries and keeps the same head on tactics (largely a contest of connection speed) and who wins games.
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You might have to lump me in with the foolish whiners...May as well put me in there too!

I certainly see a strategic advantage for a team and I've already stated my approach above and other places. I still have no love for the guys that drop at the end of their runway EVERY time. You, I and they know who they are. If I see that from someone on my team, I'm leaving or switching. I'll not help somebody like that win.

If you choose to drop for a tactical reason, that's completely different than never carrying. With a few exceptions for those "extreme" dogfighters, it's clear their only goal is not team oriented. For those that play this game just for the chase, I would prefer they stick to the non-bombing games. ;) I seldom play a FFA or CTC because I don't enjoy the endless chasing. It seems to me if the only thing you wanna do is chase, you could bow out of the bombing games like some do for the chase-filled games.

;) Dang, I knew I should have stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night. :pinch:

I always wondered that too. What is the point to bombing if no one is carrying. :blink: Do not expect me to carry if you are not carrying. When is it a tactic when it is 5, 6 or 7 on your side? Where does the tactic come in to carry or not to carry? 5 people carrying on one side and 2 not carrying on the other side? Where is the balance? Is there really any balance?**I may as well just drop my bomb, fly high to your base and camp from the rear. :evil: It is tactical right! :lol: Give my team the chance to come and bomb. :kiss: When I run out of bullets, I will crash, start the whole process over. :whistle: If you do it to me I will leave game and join another game and do the same. :whistle: I am not comparing that TACTIC to those who do not carry to that type of play, or the tactic of not carrying, just wanted to point out that anything can really be called a tactic. I give anyone the benefit of the doubt and let anyone play the way they want to play. But do not be surprised if I start to pull some equally defensive maneuvers to the best of my ability or just simply leave game. I prefer everyone carry, just makes the game more interesting then having a go at each other in circles (This refers to BTB, BTC).

**Disclaimer Not recommended you do that, it will end badly for you :evil: Remember this, if your red against one another in this game, you may end up being both blues in the next game. OR when you are in a game, suddenly your side becomes outnumbered, who will have your back??? :S
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If you choose to drop for a tactical reason, that's completely different than never carrying. With a few exceptions for those "extreme" dogfighters, it's clear their only goal is not team oriented. For those that play this game just for the chase, I would prefer they stick to the non-bombing games. I seldom play a FFA or CTC because I don't enjoy the endless chasing. It seems to me if the only thing you wanna do is chase, you could bow out of the bombing games like some do for the chase-filled games.


First of all please let me say Herrrrreeee BIRDY BIRDY BIRDY Secondly I agree with the Bird but I don't leave or switch sides because of it. And I do like the FFA games they help me find new ways of avoiding a chaser in the bombing games, Of late Ive been able to down many a chaser while carrying a bomb and I love hearing them piss and moan about I cheated some how because they got their bombless butt handed to them. :evil: I love that. ;) Anyway there's my 2 cents. :)
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If you choose to drop for a tactical reason, that's completely different than never carrying. With a few exceptions for those "extreme" dogfighters, it's clear their only goal is not team oriented. For those that play this game just for the chase, I would prefer they stick to the non-bombing games. I seldom play a FFA or CTC because I don't enjoy the endless chasing. It seems to me if the only thing you wanna do is chase, you could bow out of the bombing games like some do for the chase-filled games.


First of all please let me say Herrrrreeee BIRDY BIRDY BIRDY Secondly I agree with the Bird but I don't leave or switch sides because of it. And I do like the FFA games they help me find new ways of avoiding a chaser in the bombing games, Of late Ive been able to down many a chaser while carrying a bomb and I love hearing them piss and moan about I cheated some how because they got their bombless butt handed to them. :evil: I love that. ;) Anyway there's my 2 cents. :)


That's perfect Dave! That's it. Rise above it. It is impossible for a team to win if they all drop so why would you whine about it? What? Don't try to complain that it will make a BTB go on forever...they often last more than an hour as it is.

The whining that gets to me is when I drop on a tank or to go after a camper or a nosebleeder and then keep after incoming reds then someone says "not carrying" . Whatever. Quit if you want. Things will change when you bail on you squad/team because you don't like what the reds are up to. At some point the teams will do what it takes to win. Plur and Magic may be mvps. :silly:

BTW , my tone does seem a bit harsh. sorry for that. I mostly just annoyed with my bomb disfunction. BD . I've even gone into the practice games to try to find the best touch for it. No luck. Not just a dirty screen either.
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Didn't take it as harsh and didn't intend my response to be either.

Just meant I have no issue dumping to defend (or attack a tank). It's those that ALWAYS fly bombless that annoy me... Sometimes.
Fuck this place. Second rate hack playing in a yard that's too big for him.
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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124758

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ParrotHead wrote: Well... I fell victim to, "can't beat em, join em". I now dump on dumpers. If they're dumping, I match and hunt. Even if I don't get them, I at least keep them busy so the teammates can continue with mission. And yes Davy, if they make it past the head to head, I'll usually dump to chase.

If I'm forced to dump, I no longer go back to reload. I see it as, "I had to dump to deal with you, now you gotta deal with me".

With the now common lopsided games, I'll also dump to defend.

I never dump while on offense, unless forced to as described above.


THIS ^^^^
I do the same thing!
I'll carry my bomb and try to make it to the enemy base, unless:
1. Teammates need help fending off reds.
2. A TKer behind me
3. Reds are all over my base--I'll drop to save getting our base bombed.

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POLL, DO YOU DROP BOMB IN DOGFIGHT 12 years 1 month ago #124764

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McFate wrote: I've been holding through hell and high water for some time now. Trouble is my bomb button "sticks" more than 1/2 the time! I have to take my run at a group of 4 hangars the long way so I have a better chance of a lucky release. :pinch:

Any one else have this problem? I'm on a kindle fire HD.

Anyway, thanks for what you said Davy. I don't know why I care so much about what a bunch of whiners say. GET OVER IT! If someone drops it's their own business. If you can't figure out how it can be a tactical advantage for a team to have a chaser and bombers you are an unimaginative fool. If I keep carrying just so I don't offend someone who thinks they play the "right way" and so should everyone else then I'm the fool.

When teams can be designated we're going to see tactics evolve. Let's see who cries and keeps the same head on tactics (largely a contest of connection speed) and who wins games.

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I play kindle and kindle HD 1/2 the time I play....
I have never had a problem with sticky buttons. :)

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