Just for the record, anyone (I mean you, Blue Beagle) asking his teammates to tank him when you're on a team outnumbering the reds 6:2, is most definitely a "jack wagon". BB, I've seen it in several games now. As I told you the first time I saw it, it's bad form, poor sportsmanship and just plain cowardly. I appreciate your enthusiasm and desire to kill the evil red carrier, but do it with style man! You're showing promise as a DF pilot. You're skills are coming along. Fight your way to the boat. Take some reds down along the way, for GAWD'S SAKE deliver a bomb and earn that tank! Then blast away! Don't ask to be teamkilled, especially when you're already sporting an overwhelming advantage in a larger team. Show some class dude!

How about them scavengers who fly backdoor the entire mission on an 6:2? Or the overly enthusiastic droppers on the advantage side of a lopside? But the best is when their teammates say things like "good job" and "nice"..yea, it was so hard taking that long empty road to an empty base or taking down a bomb carrier

Thank you ph this has happened to me a lot lately. It is so annoying when they want to be tanked..I bet it was the same dude even. Worse is when they spawn kill you before your plane even gets enough rpm to move. I try to go to the underdog side every time...unless mr moustache is by himself lol. Be proud ph your one that can hang tough no matter what the odds

Captain Noushbag wrote: How about them scavengers who fly backdoor the entire mission on an 6:2? Or the overly enthusiastic droppers on the advantage side of a lopside? But the best is when their teammates say things like "good job" and "nice"..yea, it was so hard taking that long empty road to an empty base or taking down a bomb carrier

You know what it is Noursh, you're to good of a pilot to meet head on,even if they out number you. So they take the coward's way to gain points.

bhfoust wrote: Thank you ph this has happened to me a lot lately. It is so annoying when they want to be tanked..I bet it was the same dude even. Worse is when they spawn kill you before your plane even gets enough rpm to move. I try to go to the underdog side every time...unless mr moustache is by himself lol. Be proud ph your one that can hang tough no matter what the odds

Thanks Fousty, means a lot coming from you. It didn't go so well for him. Still bugs the crap out of me. Saw him doing it the other day, but he's not the only one, just the one I've seen do it on multiple occasion. I kept my word and him out of tanks for most of the game. I was in the game for an hour and Mist had been going for an hour and half before I joined.

bhfoust wrote: Thank you ph this has happened to me a lot lately. It is so annoying when they want to be tanked..I bet it was the same dude even. Worse is when they spawn kill you before your plane even gets enough rpm to move. I try to go to the underdog side every time...unless mr moustache is by himself lol. Be proud ph your one that can hang tough no matter what the odds

Thanks Fousty, means a lot coming from you. It didn't go so well for him. Still bugs the crap out of me. Saw him doing it the other day, but he's not the only one, just the one I've seen do it on multiple occasion. I kept my word and him out of tanks for most of the game. I was in the game for an hour and Mist had been going for an hour and half before I joined.

bhfoust wrote: Thank you ph this has happened to me a lot lately. It is so annoying when they want to be tanked..I bet it was the same dude even. Worse is when they spawn kill you before your plane even gets enough rpm to move. I try to go to the underdog side every time...unless mr moustache is by himself lol. Be proud ph your one that can hang tough no matter what the odds

Thanks Fousty, means a lot coming from you. It didn't go so well for him. Still bugs the crap out of me. Saw him doing it the other day, but he's not the only one, just the one I've seen do it on multiple occasion. I kept my word and him out of tanks for most of the game. I was in the game for an hour and Mist had been going for an hour and half before I joined.

Dark mist did good there for sure. Tell him to go for 301 next time. If he gets 302 I swear I will buy him a bear or I would If I could lol. Sadly at my age he will be lucky to get some cool-ade shipped in the mail or a battle of baking wine I stole form my mothers kitchen lol.

Always wondered what a Jack wagon was.

General jackson wrote: Always wondered what a Jack wagon was.

I always thought it was a wagon full of people named jack. Or it was a wagon hauling off dead jack rabbits. Nasty times in the 30s in kansas. There where dust storms grass hopper storms and to many damin jack rabbits hopping around.

General jackson wrote: Always wondered what a Jack wagon was.

Oh c'mon man! I said jack wagon, not General Jack's wagon.

Allow me to eloborate...



Or if that doesn't quite 'splain it. Use this sausage... Umm patty, no thats not it either. You know the thing you use to go find something on that interweb thingamajig... Oh yeah..... a link.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jackwagon

ParrotHead wrote:

General jackson wrote: Always wondered what a Jack wagon was.

Oh c'mon man! I said jack wagon, not General Jack's wagon.

Allow me to eloborate...

Or if that doesn't quite 'splain it. Use this sausage... Umm patty, no thats not it either. You know the thing you use to go find something on that interweb thingamajig... Oh yeah..... a link.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jackwagon

Hands down my all time favorite commercial.

Captain Noushbag wrote: How about them scavengers who fly backdoor the entire mission on an 6:2? Or the overly enthusiastic droppers on the advantage side of a lopside? But the best is when their teammates say things like "good job" and "nice"..yea, it was so hard taking that long empty road to an empty base or taking down a bomb carrier

Noush you will always see a GJ from me when some one bombs a target it doesn't matter the odds, The fact remains they carried it to the target and didnt drop it at the end on their runway. That deserves a GJ....Everytime.

Was the game bomb the carrier or shoot Down 1000 planes. How many Did you shoot down Whilst carrying a bomb.

Dr Dave wrote:

Captain Noushbag wrote: How about them scavengers who fly backdoor the entire mission on an 6:2? Or the overly enthusiastic droppers on the advantage side of a lopside? But the best is when their teammates say things like "good job" and "nice"..yea, it was so hard taking that long empty road to an empty base or taking down a bomb carrier

Noush you will always see a GJ from me when some one bombs a target it doesn't matter the odds, The fact remains they carried it to the target and didnt drop it at the end on their runway. That deserves a GJ....Everytime.

fair enough doc, but maybe you can follow a GJ with a " you scavenger" or "you jackwagon" when it's a lopside

Call me all the names you like because I bomb any way I can while you fellows concentrate on just shooting people down for an hour or 2 just so you can get 100 plus kills. Sorry to "shorten" your kill time,,,,but the mission IS to bomb. I'll go up over, around, straight thru and underground to accomplish the mission. I don't have time to wait for your kill score to escalate.

I've been the out-numbered player and have still won a few games by out-smarting the masses. While they are looking for me, I go invisible, and drop. So many times the "high kill" hunters are camping at my base or just barely on radar to try to ambush.

Not going to wait on you folks to get a new "record"....
Gotta pee....sometimes.

Paul, the only thing I'll ever call you is awesome possum and the razzle dazzle you sir are amongst the most entertaining players to play with and the game wouldn't be right without those magic words.."its magic time" no one bombs the hangers better than you and the buildings better than Crockett

I feel your pain parrot

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Do like I do...shoot 'em...and then shoot 'em again. Hence, no tank.

They get po'ed and are hesitant to ask again.

The only exception I can say is with the teams lately if there is no red I ask if people want to tank or wait for red and see what everyone agrees to...if there are no red and few blue it can take a long time to fly back and forth. I have don 5 bomb runs before someone shows up. I really want to have a bomb the airport game with 7 players all blue, we all get in tanks and surround the enemy runway and wait for a red Not to hit them just to freak them out.

Paul Mantz, Jr. wrote: Do like I do...shoot 'em...and then shoot 'em again. Hence, no tank.

They get po'ed and are hesitant to ask again.

Can I be a JACK WAGON?

The game that (I think) started this post, was a great one. I was not able to finish, however regretting it. It did start out evenly matched and was a great back and forth volley. Both sides made mention to the fact that it was going to be a long one. This was a game that almost nothing worked to get a bomb dropped. I wouldn't say it was from any one factor, it was just a great use of timing and defense on both sides.
I am with PH on the fact that it is poor form to ask to be tanked in any game really. I do understand all blue games may be the exception. Asking to be tanked in a one sided game, no one would like to read that after a long battle. It is kind of like hearing "will you walk away from me so I can sucker punch you"? 

Nothing wrong with telling someone to work for it.

Texting the "nice shoot" or "good job" when it is clearly a one sided game. Well that can get a bit annoying however, I have been up against many two man teams and knew I didn't stand a chance at winning, so if a noob managed to get past a couple of guys in the "100 Plus Club" (I hold you all in high regards,  someday I hope to make it) I have been guilty of giving attaboy. It is not meant as a cut, but rather as a complement to the noob and the ace.

Flying to the center to see who wins. Ahh Just not one of my strong points. I however do not see anything wrong with it. I am just not good at it, so I work at what I can to help my team win the mission.
I myself come to this forum to learn how to play this game and catch up on the "Do's and Dont's" of it all. As a younger fresher group of players make their way here, I hope they take note and follow suit, or at least know the hornets nest they are about to take a swing at.

Great post Parrot!

Paul, now I have to pee!

I don't agree with ever shooting down a blue plane. For me, if it takes a long time to bomb and reload, then that is part of the game. Like you said, who knows, maybe some red planes will arrive later and it "buys time" for them to arrive. I for one don't like long games but I don't mind them in the instance that all are working to the objective of the particular game whether it be bomb, zep, dogfight, etc.

Just my 2 cents. Some consider it more like a "wooden nickel" but its fun to comment.

Heff006 wrote: Was the game bomb the carrier or shoot Down 1000 planes. How many Did you shoot down Whilst carrying a bomb.

For me all kills involved a bomb. If one of the bomb-dumping cowards that outnumbered us 6:2 made it passed my head-on attack and wasn't carrying, it also involved me dropping my bomb to match him in the chase. If I had 3 or 4 flying around me at once, I dropped my bomb and took them down. With that being said, I landed 2 bombs and 2 tank shots on the boat. I'll take that and the kills I had... Any day. As for my partner, I don't know how much he carried, but I saw him land one on target. So, I know he did at least once.

I used to complain about dumpers, but I've stopped. Now I match them if they get passed me. No need to be an easy target.

Paul, "magic time" is one of my favorite things about DF. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

Whip, I agree. All blue... End the game and move on. I'd love to see the tank circle myself. Would be a riot!

...it steals peoples points.

To me I dont really care how people bomb the opposing side as long as they got a bomb in and got us closer to wining the game I will tell them good job for it. Even if they went bomb less all the way there and got shot down dogfighting and tanked and landed a shot in on there ship or hangers then heck they did there job.

As long as people are not spawn killing or camping out the enemy base or my base then I wont complain. They also better be behaving them selfs with there language and there attitude. If the only bombs they drop are F bombs then I don't give a crap how good there doing they better leave the game.

Captain Noushbag wrote:

Dr Dave wrote:

Captain Noushbag wrote: How about them scavengers who fly backdoor the entire mission on an 6:2? Or the overly enthusiastic droppers on the advantage side of a lopside? But the best is when their teammates say things like "good job" and "nice"..yea, it was so hard taking that long empty road to an empty base or taking down a bomb carrier

Noush you will always see a GJ from me when some one bombs a target it doesn't matter the odds, The fact remains they carried it to the target and didnt drop it at the end on their runway. That deserves a GJ....Everytime.

fair enough doc, but maybe you can follow a GJ with a " you scavenger" or "you jackwagon" when it's a lopside

You cant call them a jack wagon till they have snuck around some how and they choose the worst moment to dive on the enemy base. I hate it when they decide to dive on the place after a whole wave of the enemy got shot down. They dive in or go in right when every one is back on the runway or taking off. They then get them selfs shot down after using all the time to get around. That is when I will call you a Jack wagon.

I just hate it when people fly all the way around and use up so much time to get there and get shot down the very moment the get back on radar.

You are a jack wagon all so when you take the same dam route every time and when you try and go around every time. If some one goes around every time and they eventually get a bomb in doing that then the team opposing the guy going around is full of jack wagons for not watching out for him and not keeping a general idea in mind of how much time it is taking him to make his trip. Very annoying stuff.

Whole teams can be called jack wagons when it is a game with 7 vs 1 and they never thing about all 7 of them splitting up a bit so it makes it harder for the 1 defender to catch them all when they come in. 1 guy cant be every where at once if you know what I mean. But one guy can really put up a fist fight when every one flys in straight line same route usually all together or in a chain or rope like line so he only has to take on 1 guy at a time all the way to there dang base. Teams that do that should just leave and save them selfs embarrassment.

I just hate it when people are flying and don't think. When you dont think you are a jack wagon. Long Story short lol.

On a side note I am a jack wagon and so are the rest of us because we have all done a few of these lol.